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GPlates: Island Arc Collisions - Worldbuilder’s Log 15 

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@Ninjaananas
@Ninjaananas Год назад
Though plate tectonics and this math stuff are not the aspects of worldbuilding that interest me, it does not bother me if you cover them. I think this series is better if it covers a wide array of apsects and people can cherrypick what they find interesting or useful.
@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim
@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim Год назад
It will. He's currently covering the Plate Techtonics section, which is very involved atm Imo, it is important information to consider when worldbuilding because it literally shapes the world that you're creating. How the landmasses shifted and collided over time directly influences things like Climate and, down the line, where any civilization would make their settlements.
@elijahberegovsky8957
@elijahberegovsky8957 Год назад
I have been putting off learning GPlates for a looooong time, because of how obtuse it is. Now, after you’ll’ve explained this whole mess in detail, I might actually take it up, and genuinely enjoy it. So, one vote for the GPlates series! Long live Artifexia 🥳
@Dragrath1
@Dragrath1 Год назад
yeah its really not the tool for the job that would require a rebuilding from the ground up that would likely be tedious/expensive in resources and time.
@lucas_e_jones
@lucas_e_jones Год назад
Well, no software developer caters to the worldbuilding community, so it’s the best tool we’ve got. Unless you prefer to take the childish route of drawing a few movement arrows and plate boundaries on your map, instead of putting in the work to get a detailed history.
@TAP7a
@TAP7a Год назад
Voicing my strong support for ultra nerdy tectonic building, but totally get that your audience could be less excited about getting into the weeds than I am and more interested in variety or getting to the part that is more in line with their personal interests. Very excited to see Nikolai's work once you're both prepared to share it!
@ranger044
@ranger044 Год назад
GPlates is half the reason I watch this series. I like everything to be believable and logical, and if that means watching multiple lengthy math/theory heavy episodes then so be it. I've been following several world building projects that have lasted multiple years at this point, keep going with what you like!
@diegoscb
@diegoscb Год назад
Hey there, just getting into this worldbuilding project myself. Could you recommend any other similar lengthy worldbuilding projects you've enjoyed?
@morlath4767
@morlath4767 Год назад
I'd honestly like to see at least one video on bringing the continents together and the first step to breaking them up, even if it was a quick 10-minute thing.
@SystemofEleven
@SystemofEleven Год назад
Agreed!
@saltenzy449
@saltenzy449 Год назад
I love these Gplates tutorials, they are making the process a lot easier! especially when there are well placed time stamps for important info. Looking forward to next video for big time collision!
@henry_alphonse
@henry_alphonse Год назад
The legend returns!
@PumpkinMaximus
@PumpkinMaximus Год назад
I've followed your previous GPlates tutorial, but I LOVE how in-depth this one is. I really wanted a more "realistic" way to come up with terrain, because I just could not imagine it all myself, and this is perfect! I understand the need to speed it up for the people who just really aren't interested, tho, and I'm really excited to see how Artifexia itself looks, so I think the compromise is a great one! Thanks again for another awesome video! 😎👍
@isaacmartin9835
@isaacmartin9835 Год назад
I find it really interesting to see people concerned about GPlates being really intimidating and thus not fit for a tutorial, but like, if it wasn't intimidating it wouldn't need one. I love these super cruchy videos because they are creating an accessible reference that hasn't existed before. Someone has to make it right?
@Omega-mr1jg
@Omega-mr1jg Год назад
Hes following the tutorial worldbuildingpasta made, but his is easier to parse
@nathanmartin2998
@nathanmartin2998 Год назад
The Gplates content is the primary reason I've been following this series. Keep up the good work!
@wesbeuning1733
@wesbeuning1733 Год назад
I am liking this material. I've liked everything put out this far, actually. It's fascinating and valuable.
@saracosta620
@saracosta620 7 месяцев назад
I've had this series saved in my to watch list, waiting for when I'd have the time to watch it carefully. Now, I'm finally watching and following the tutorial. When I first tried to use GPlate, I ended up frustrated and unable to do anything. Now, though, it all seems so SIMPLE! Thanks to you. And WB Pasta, of course, but I have trouble following written instructions when software is involved. Your series - and way of explaining - was and is essential for me. Thank you so much. Edit: I mean the logic is simplre. The software itself is clearly not (nor is it meant to be) user-friendly. That's okay. Not everything life is supposed to be user-friendly. Sometimes it feels as if some people cannot get outside their comfort zone to explore things that are more complex. I myself sometimes fall into that category, but it's so rewarding to be able to tackle a complex software and do something with it.
@otherperson
@otherperson Год назад
Man I want to see the full simulation. I know this is essentially a business, but the amount of detail has been really helpful, and losing some of that for the sake of just moving on is really unfortunate to me.
@kjellduteweert9262
@kjellduteweert9262 Год назад
Maybe do a separate Gp plates tutorial separated form this series. I also would say that waiting for each video for this kind of holds it back. Because when you're making it you have to wait to go on. But still, cool to see, it also helps me a lot with my own map. Where specific earth geographic should be. Go hope you will also make a Atlas map for this series and explain that even more. Was your best so far I would say..
@randomguy568
@randomguy568 Год назад
Yo! Artifexian, I noticed that the worldsmith has a problem in the Terrestrial Planet Physical Characteristics area of the Planets section where the default iron core percentage causes the density, gravity, and escape velocity to be higher than earths, with the radius being smaller than earths. This can be fixed by changing the default iron core percentage to 33.33%, instead of 35%. A very small thing, but I just thought I would mention it to you. Also, the GPlates videos are actually quite enjoyable, despite it not typically being the side of worldbuilding I love. They might be slightly better if they were a little shorter with the same amount of progress in the episodes, but just keep doing whatever you enjoy the most!
@fredgags
@fredgags Год назад
These tutorials are great. I started a new world after watching the first video in this series -- finally I'd found a resource that could bring a level of realism to my worldbuilding that was so frustratingly lacking before. Now you're getting to the stuff that I found it hard to work out just reading Worldbuilding Pasta, it helps a lot to see it all done on video. Even if one doesn't follow the gplates method themselves, watching the process is so informative when it comes to the rules of thumb -- of size of terrain features based on age, or how subduction zones affect other plates, or speed of tectonic plates, etc. Viewers who don't use Gplates themselves might be more interested in these videos if you included more WIP content at the end like in previous episodes.
@Elmarker15
@Elmarker15 Год назад
I never comment on YT, but gotta say: boy I love the series. Your scientific insight on the topic is stunning
@Ryan-rq6dx
@Ryan-rq6dx Год назад
Thank you for changing it up. The gplate stuff has been, im not sure dry is the right way to put it. Reguardless i am still excited about these videos
@Devimon4000
@Devimon4000 Год назад
i admit having manged to personally figure out most of the basics from World building pasta, its more the complexities that come with doing a whole simulation that would be more personally helpful (like how on earth do you deal with the ocean plate made by moving mid ocean ridges at 400 million in their worked example?) And at some point it always seems like my contents movement gets sloppy and I need to hack off hunks of ocean with subduction zones sooner than the worked example does to give my contents room to move. But I more than understand you have a border audience to keep in mind!
@purplemosasaurus5987
@purplemosasaurus5987 Год назад
Finally! I've been waiting for this video for so long!
@Artifexian
@Artifexian Год назад
Sorry, Christmas, New Years and a couple of other things got in the way. :(
@purplemosasaurus5987
@purplemosasaurus5987 Год назад
@@Artifexian No need to apologise, I totally get that. I was just showing how much I want you to keep this series going anyway.
@jonas-by5uc
@jonas-by5uc Год назад
I love the serie and i'm really getting a lot of value from the gplates tutorial ! thanks a lot for your work !
@jorgehaswag7294
@jorgehaswag7294 Год назад
I was just thinking abt your channel yesterday, how fortuitous!
@cass908
@cass908 Год назад
I really love this part of the series and I certainly wouldn't mind if you went through the whole process. (although i am a massive geography and cartography nerd so i might be slightly biased)
@mopbob
@mopbob Год назад
I'm probably too late for anyone to reply but I thought this would be the best video to ask this: At 22:40, the ocean crust overlaps. Can that happen whenever, or is it only when subduction zones form? The reason I ask is because in my simulation, two ocean crusts overlap slightly. One continent is moving north, and one (to the south of the 1st one) is moving east-north-east (it just split from a bigger continent moving east-south-east). The strange shape of the continents has caused some of the northbound continent's oceanic crust to be in the way of the eastbound continent's oceanic crust. One thing I thought might be a problem is that the 2 oceanic crusts do some funky overlapping stuff with the oceanic ridge. Is this a major problem? Is there something I'm doing wrong? If so, how should I fix it without having to change the continents trajectory and have to redo all the ocean crust. Tbh I wouldn't mind doing that too much, but it would be nice to not have to. Pls help. Also if if you can explain WHY it works the way it does (why its ok / why its bad and I have to change it) it would be much appreciated and help me understand.
@BloodKrieg21
@BloodKrieg21 Год назад
I would watch the 20 more episodes of this.
@scriptea
@scriptea Год назад
While I love the detail that these videos provide, I think the medium solution might be when timelapse is used, use whatever speed you use for the first one, but for each reoccurring step, go another "step" higher in speed, pointing out some of the relevant changes in editing with, like a textbox, with the corresponding video or something. But that might be a lot more editing, so idk. Tedious worldbuilding is the reason I've watched this channel for so long, lol.
@AtarahDerek
@AtarahDerek Год назад
Love how you call the preferred geology color code for subduction zones canonical.
@Sprecherfuchs
@Sprecherfuchs Год назад
You could always intersperse some of the later G-plates videos with ones on other topics like climate building, so that those not interested can have some content.
@Artifexian
@Artifexian Год назад
GPlates will be used throughout this series as reference but the hardcore Gplates tutorial stuff will end in a few videos.
@ajgibson1307
@ajgibson1307 Год назад
Happy new year god bless
@pointyorb
@pointyorb Месяц назад
When are you "allowed" to start opening new subduction zones? At what point in the simulation can you start doing it? 800 million years? 700 million years? I'm confused
@Mercure250
@Mercure250 Год назад
I think the problem is, you should have done this tutorial as a separate series, maybe before doing this series. The problem of doing it the way you are right now is twofold : 1. People don't find it as interesting (that includes me, although I'm not that bothered by it) 2. People who DO want to look for a GPlates tutorial might have a little bit more trouble finding this tutorial because it's part of another series (though I might be wrong about this) But what has been done has been done. I think maybe, in the future, you could rename those GPlates tutorial episodes and put them in a different playlist or something like that so that future watchers can go through the Artifexia series more painlessly, and if they want to watch your GPlates tutorial, they could do so if they want to, and people who actually want to find your tutorial without needing to go through your Artifexia series would be able to do so more easily. And for the Artifexia series, you could just do a video of highlights of the tutorial where you explain the plate tectonics stuff without all the GPlates technicalities. Just throwing ideas, do what you want with them.
@jonathanthomas8736
@jonathanthomas8736 Год назад
Let me add my voice to those approving. I find myself watching your vids on Gplates whenever things go haywire. This time I was looking for ballpark Island arc size by age, and discovered that I needed to set up flowlines b/w passive continent and subducting ocean. Which brings me to this observation: Since C has an active margin with recent subduction, shouldn't its drift speed increase from 2.7 to 5.4 or so?
@moontruther7865
@moontruther7865 Год назад
Been personally loving the gplates videos and wish I could follow along but have been not able to as my gplates crashes everytime I try use the pole tool
@cupkelpie4656
@cupkelpie4656 Год назад
I really like this partof the series. I'd love it if you continued it. Maybe alternate between it and other content, so that people who want different stuff don't have to wait until it's finished?
@Pannenkoekenplantje
@Pannenkoekenplantje Месяц назад
For the code of a new mini-continent, you can just copy the coordinates of the one ot was following, they're the same.
@user-hv7mb3ye2v
@user-hv7mb3ye2v Год назад
While I'm eager for you to cover things like climatology, flora, fauna, etc. I do see the importance in these beginning parts of the series. I'd rather you be overly in depth than not in depth enough
@faarsight
@faarsight Год назад
Awww, I loved this series. But to be fair the whole simulation would probably take a lot of time/episodes. Maybe you could do like a timelapse of finishing the simulation with commentary?
@Artifexian
@Artifexian Год назад
I actually think that is great idea for a season 2.
@YLLPal
@YLLPal Год назад
To be honest, I thought that's what you were planning (a technique tutorial followed by "after 4 more hours in the oven, this is what mine looks like")
@Not_Dane_Heart
@Not_Dane_Heart Год назад
I guess it is a good compromise, I like this series, but yeah i understand that this might not be everyones thing
@annethereseeltervag3566
@annethereseeltervag3566 Год назад
Worldsmith idea. Make it so you can plug in the mass and orbital period of the moon to get the radius of the orbit using a=(((p/0,0588)^2)*(m+M))^(1/3)
@MGDrzyzga
@MGDrzyzga Год назад
Yeah, this G Plates stuff isn't for me. I still try to watch what I can, and 1-2 episodes was fine for me. I'll just half pay attention until it gets back to what I'm interested in.
@John_Weiss
@John_Weiss Год назад
My main problem is how tedious it is to use this software. All of the steps you need to do to make _any_ changes to your plates involves so many fiddly steps, it gets painful to watch because I feel sorry you have to go through all of this any time you want to make a change. I like the plate tectonics aspect of it all, but this software - Oy Gevalt!
@Dragrath1
@Dragrath1 Год назад
Yeah he is basically trying to use a Plate tectonics visual animator (meant as a plate tectonics teaching aid) as a "simulator" doing all the steps manually in an ad hoc manor its both somewhat impressive dedication and partly horrifying to watch. If I had the skills in coding with models animations etc. I would be tempted to just build it from scratch as using an actual iterative process would save so much time and effort.
@John_Weiss
@John_Weiss Год назад
​@@Dragrath1 Yeah, I remember him saying, when he started this part of the series, that this software wasn't intended to be used to simulate what he's doing.
@rickvrieling
@rickvrieling Год назад
Goodday
@MegaMinerd
@MegaMinerd Год назад
Personally, since I've already decided that my civilization is the descendants of pioneers/astronauts that hitched a ride on a hyperbolic/rogue asteroid, none of the videos in this series are relevant to me so far. I just watch out of interest and to show support.
@sirtr3bla7
@sirtr3bla7 Год назад
I have been facinated by World Building for a long time and I love your channel. I was just wondering what you believe the impact of ChatGPT will be on World Building, and how to use it as an effective tool? I would love to hear yours and others opinions.
@parallelblack788
@parallelblack788 Год назад
What role would a chatbot play in worldbuilding? Not dissing, but genuinely curious what the relation is.
@sirtr3bla7
@sirtr3bla7 Год назад
@@parallelblack788 No problem, love having discussions. So I have used it to help flush out details and help me find a element of realism. I also have seen how useful it can be to help with cultures if your world building goes that far.
@TAP7a
@TAP7a Год назад
@@parallelblack788 ChatGPT is famously not actually intelligent but extremely confident. If you feed it some nouns and verbs, it'll spit you back something that sounds like someone wholeheartedly believing. To resurrect a piece of cringe from 2010, if you were to ask it "why does the narwhal bacon at midnight?" it could write you an essay confidently saying why. The application would be if you have some conlanged or nonsense names or a historical event or whatever, you could use ChatGPT to invent some bullshit to start plugging the gaps. I don't think it would be particularly effective or compelling, but that's one way you could use it
@sono_chi_no_sodium_chlorid7635
I think that your idea of showing only the techniques is a good idea as it will speed up the process My only criticism is that I don't understand why would you put humans there. Since you make up everything, why won't you create your own species to populate the world?
@TAP7a
@TAP7a Год назад
The same reason almost the entirety of fantasy and sci-fi literature uses humans. Grounded and guaranteed point of entry, allows you to write about human stuff abstracted from the real world etc etc etc
@personeater747
@personeater747 Год назад
High tech crashing action figures into eachother
@Schody_lol
@Schody_lol Год назад
_ÆY!¡!_
@Scaveged
@Scaveged Год назад
Broo the island arc can fit inside the added land it’s to big
@eidalac
@eidalac Год назад
The drawn part of the islands is just a 'marker', not the full size. Otherwise it'd be too complicated to draw and update.
@brianburrows6551
@brianburrows6551 Год назад
I quite enjoyed the GPlates. You explain things so well.
@Thorunge
@Thorunge Год назад
Though it is perhaps on the slow side, repetition in each episode does help to remember things better. Even a timelapse can help with not having to search in a previous video. So I'd say I'm in favor of 'overexplaining', rather than going through it too quickly, mostly for posterities sake though (I'd really like to have my map finished just about yesterday).
@pointyorb
@pointyorb 5 месяцев назад
I'm in a similar boat. The sooner I finish my planet map, the sooner I can use the texture to make my system in SpaceEngine
@RiverHorse01
@RiverHorse01 Год назад
Welcome back! I absolutely love these Gplates videos, cant get enough of them. Didn't know the ocean crust could overlap, that drove me nuts before when my zones overlapped like that
@Dragrath1
@Dragrath1 Год назад
Yeah IRL thanks to the development of seismic tomography we now know that when plates subduct they don't disappear just sink deeper into the Earth continuing down to the Mantle Transition Zone where lots of chemistry and remineralization stuff goes on with corresponding but still not well understood inter-plate volcanism as mantle material saturated with lighter volatile elements from sediment get forced out by remineralization making the local mantle lighter and thus begin to rise as a hydrous mantle plume. When this occurs below a continent with subducted carbonate reef platforms accumulating that is what can get you volcanic pipe eruptions that bring mantle material to the surface rapidly. This is how you get diamonds as if diamonds get brought to the surface slowly they revert to graphite instead so you need them to reach the surface ascending from the upper mantle to the surface on the timescale of hours to days via what is effectively a tectonic bottle rocket as the mantle material in question gets super saturated with carbon dioxide and water that through complicated dynamic processes remineralizes/decompresses as it ascends. The final stages of this are notably very rapid ending with volatile magma exploding through the crust onto the surface with deadly pyroclastic flows and bizarre carbonate volcanism. There is a lot we don't understand about this but it appears to be an important process in the context of plate tectonics as its how much of the subducted volatiles return to the surface and its important in driving the break up of supercontinents. More generally though eventually subducted crust gets heavy enough to continue to sink down into the lower mantle folding up like ribbon candy in the process in vast slab walls which sink down to the core mantle boundary something on the order of 230 million years assuming the measured rate of descent is constant over time. Slabs descending into the lower mantle has an effect of causing the subduction zone boundary to become anchored into place. There is also a probable link between these slabs sinking to the core mantle boundary and the emergence of more conventional "thermal" mantle plumes as based on seismic tomography these plumes rise from large low sheer velocity regions (the velocity of seismic waves through a material is what we measure) that appear in shape to be akin to continents floating on top of the liquid outer core which are "creatively" termed "Large Low Shear Velocity Provinces" or LLSVPs for short. Based on the USGS's survey of North America there appears to be something that looks suspiciously like a mantle plume, or if its not a plume as some stubborn old geologists try and argue then at least a huge ascending low density blob rising up from the core mantle boundary that just so happens to look like what models predict mantle plumes to look like, that is rising up from where a old sunken slab wall of Triassic age has hit the core mantle boundary "recently". The point is that on the surface this appears to underlie the Adirondack mountains a long mysterious mountain range that is full of jagged young peaks and yet extremely ancient cratonic rocks and viewed from above this mountain range is a huge inflated bulge is pushing up the crust rapidly over the last ~10 million years. Crudely extrapolating this forward it may reach the surface in the next 3 to 7 million years where if mantle plume theory is right we should expect the next Large Igneous Province to form(one on average forms every 30 million years or so). Fun right? Did I mention that every Large Igneous Province is associated with a corresponding mas extinction event? Every single one for at least the last 700+ million years. TDLR plates subducted don't disappear IRL they chemically transform as they sink and eventually remind the crust and upper mantle and anything unfortunate to be living at that time of their presence during the next Wilson cycle as rising thermal plumes which in turn flood vast regions in a sea of basaltic magma and triggering mass extinctions of life on Earth. These plumes also serve to rip continents apart forming new oceans and they tend to stick around as hot spot chains that can persist for at least a hundred million years if not longer.
@Devimon4000
@Devimon4000 Год назад
Really only supposed to do that when one is subducting the other, and to try and not have an ocean crust cross over its own mid-ocean ridge. Which is a pain to make sure you get right in my experience. Especially when dealing with a large full scale simulation as you start running out of room to move things easily quickly...
@jadetheartist873
@jadetheartist873 Год назад
Yes! It’s back! I like these G-Plates tutorials as I find these helpful and interesting.
@LexisLang
@LexisLang Год назад
Personally, I like the nerdy, over-the-top, mathsy worldbuilding. That's very much my style. I'd love to be able to simulate in G-Plates properly and finally a full tutorial is being made. I'd want to see it continue. That being said, I see that it's not everyone's cup of tea (though it surprises me that they're watching this series - I've always equated this channel with OTT nerdery), so I think your compromise is good. So long as there's enough info to figure everything out, that's the best way to go if you are getting any negativity. Excellent video as always, Edgar, keep it up! :D
@matthewwilliamson7419
@matthewwilliamson7419 Год назад
I've really enjoyed specifically the gplates segment of this series, enough to make me want to run my own simulation. The whole process is super tedious but really rewarding. When I ran out of videos to watch from your playlist I went ahead and checked out worldbuildingpasta's blog only to realize that your videos follow super closely to the supplementary tutorial in the blog, and that the blog also contains a wayyyy more detailed example in the main tectonics section. While I am disappointed that you'll be rushing through your video version of the tutorial, I can totally understand that since the blog can provide any info the dedicated viewers may need, it's probably appropriate to move on to the steps that come after gplates for the sake of the rest of the viewers. That said I am also excited to see the rest of the process after gplates too, so i'm not terribly bummed out about it. It is nice to have a soothing voice to walk me through the simulation process though instead of having to bounce back and forth between the written blog and my own simulation window.
@Dorsidwarf
@Dorsidwarf Год назад
I actually like these longer-form videos... I just plug it on and listen to it like a podcast then tune back in when something brand new is on :)
@Artifexian
@Artifexian Год назад
The videos will remain long form
@King_Ben_IV
@King_Ben_IV Год назад
I think the main issue I have with the G-Plates videos isn't the content itself (though I'm not intrested in tectonics on quite this in-depth level) but that they are very long-winded (through no fault of your own; the software and topic are complex) and very little new information is presented in each episode (for their length). Also, due to the time between episodes I've basically forgetten what you talked about in the previous video. I think the new direction is for the best; looking forwward to the next episode. Colliding continents yeah!!!
@TripleBarrel06
@TripleBarrel06 Год назад
Yeah that's the problem I'm having. The first 8 episodes of this series were producing a whole heap of output for comparatively little number crunching. The last 8 have been wrestling with GPlates' (sometimes needlessly) arcane design philosophy to illustrate different tectonic phenomena. While its been really interesting to learn stuff like how to form certain types of mountain ranges, ocean ridges and trenches, a lot of the episode is dedicated to timelapsing all of the malarkey GPlates puts you through to do a single adjustment to the output.
@Joe-cc9it
@Joe-cc9it Год назад
The other issue I have is that this doesn't even have consequence to the world building, because someone else is doing artifexia. It's a slow tutorial that doesn't seem to actually fit all that well within the original goal.
@JonathanUsmar
@JonathanUsmar Год назад
I like that this series of tutorials exists. It fuels my imagination less than some of the other videos, but I find it extremely reassuring that they're here because if I ever do actually try to do this in gplates I'm going to be rewatching theses and scrutinising them intensely.
@7Tacit
@7Tacit Год назад
If you decide to stick with this plan, would it still be possible to see the finished product of the tutorial? To get an idea of what it should look like out the end?
@Artifexian
@Artifexian Год назад
Absolutely! I'll cover the basics and then show you the world Worldbuildingpasta has been working on for me.
@McCainenl
@McCainenl Год назад
Also what this tells me is some enterprising worldbuilder should make an app, even just a simple one, that does this specifically for worldbuilding purposes rather than trying to repurpose a clunky scientific tool...
@Dragrath1
@Dragrath1 Год назад
Yeah though its more of an educational animator made by some geologist with little coding background to do exactly what they wanted which has subsequently been adopted to other uses. Its kind of horrifying as he is basically manually doing all the iterative processes.
@saschabaer3327
@saschabaer3327 Год назад
I have been following this series and I’m sad to hear it will be cut short. It’s obviously not a tool everyone wants to use, but to those of us who do, a detailed walkthrough is extremely valuable. I’ve tried reading the original blog post and once things got more complicated it just lost me, so I was actually really looking forward to you going through the whole plate collisions stuff (especially once several plates are involved!) slowly. You’ve made other videos that have been really helpful to others that I don’t really care for, and I think that is perfect that way - something that some people love and some people hate is worth more than something everyone’s kinda mid on!
@Artifexian
@Artifexian Год назад
To be clear, I won't be stopping the series dead in its tracks. We'll cover the basics and then move on.
@saschabaer3327
@saschabaer3327 Год назад
@@Artifexian That was clear, I'm just worried that "the basics" means shortcutting through stuff that could really do with two or five examples on how to handle complicated setups. Like what if two plates are merging but one is spinning and also a third one approaches from the side? Basic guidelines often just... die in the face of the sort of complexities that can come up and I think some case studies would be very helpful!
@Dragrath1
@Dragrath1 Год назад
Yes the older ocean crust will be more likely to subduct but it can get more tricky than that sometimes Earth is complicated and obduction is occasionally a thing where sea which really only makes sense when you consider the Earth's upper mantle and ocean crust as the medium within which continents are suspended akin to icebergs in the sea. In this sense the motion of oceanic plates while influenced by continents isn't entirely coupled to them aside from driving the formation continental crust via island arcs and continent induced subduction zones. In fact different mid ocean ridges spread at very different rates with orders of magnitude of variation from the fast spreading East Pacific Rise which depending on the location spreads between 6 cm/yr and 16 cm/yr to ultra slow spreading Gakkel ridge which spreads 12.7 mm/yr to 6.0 mm/yr Still note that the modern young subduction zones IRL are all oceanic largely where transpression(transverse motion plus compression) are straining the crust there is a lot to be learned about how this process begins. Now in the context of IRL geography its important to recognize that plates when subducted don't disappear rather they change form sinking to the Mantle Transition zone and leaking sediment into the overlying crust as the minerals change phase/state through remineralization. That remineralization and separation plays major roles in driving major inter-plate volcanism i.e. hot spots though the details are complicated and not yet settled Importantly once the crust has become dense the subducted slabs continue to sink deep into the chemically distinct lower mantle in a really cool ribbon candy style structure called a slab wall. If the subduction associated with these slabs is still ongoing then this effectively anchors the position of the subduction zone and its volcanic arcs which is likely to be the case for your several hundred million year old arcs barring slab breakage/separation to return the system to shallow slab subduction This latter stage of transitioning to deep subduction it should be noted is associated with violent volcanism or flare up events which can in some circumstances drive an arc volcanic cycle with activity rising and falling as each portion of crust re-mineralizes and sinks below. In continental arcs this results in Ignimbrite flare up events with highly silica rich or siliceous volcanism which due to its high viscosity and strong gas trapping ability can lead to large numbers of voluminous explosive eruptions i.e. "supervolcanoes" and serves as the main way "supervolcanoes" form on Earth. As an aside the other main way being continental inter-plate volcanism from young continental rift zones and or migrating hot spots. Though there is also ultra slow spreading ridges a.k.a. Gakkel ridge the weirdest and most dangerous midocean ridge as rather than erupting primarily by effusive pillow basalt eruptions the slow rate of spreading can allow huge amounts of material to build up and erupt explosively in anywhere up to VEI 8 super eruptions. Also another fascinating thing about Gakkel ridge is its "normal" volcanism supports explosive vulcanian eruptions. Of its 5 or so super eruptions two also correspond with major changes in Glaciation in the Northern hemisphere namely the initiation of permanent glaciation in the Northern hemisphere at 2.5 Ma and the shift in the major Milankovitch cycles 1.1 Ma. Given we are talking about a volcanic ultraplinian blowing through potentially kilometers of water (depending on how intense the associated resurgent dome was) the magnitude of such events boggles the mind and this was far from the biggest "super eruption". Now there is another "special" kind of volcanic event which happens when a mature continental arc subducts a mid ocean ridge and becomes extended. This is generally known from the most recent example involving the collapse of the ancient an Laramides as compression was very rapidly shifted to extension exposing the deep plutons and batholiths below as the arc was extended out, basically everything from Nevada to Colorado/New Mexico was once part of a towering mountain range before it got spread out into block fault mountains horsts and valleys grabens exposing the deep metamorphic core complexes and the aforementioned still partially molten plutons and batholiths. This means you can expect this kind of volcanism to happen when you "kill" your volcanic arc next time as you pull your Andean style arc into a Laramide type arc The most recent such event the Tertiary Ignimbrite Flare up was responsible for the largest explosive volcanic eruptions known and included the ironically amusing Wah Wah springs eruption which was the single most violent explosive event since the Chicxulub impactor smashed into the Continental shelf of North America along what is now the Yucatan peninsula 66 million years ago. We are talking about exposing the batholiths at the basement of a volcanic arc allowing them to violently decompress giving you a combo of immense landslides and absurdly explosive volcanism.
@SystemofEleven
@SystemofEleven Год назад
I can understand if some people have a limit on technical processes and program shenanigans, but I personally am absolutely loving this series, and would be absolutely ecstatic if you took it through a full two cycles of breaking and joining! Especially since the second cycle would mostly be a recap in terms of how the tools work and would likely be used primarily to show how terrain features from the first rejoining, like mountains and ravines, would change during the second split and rejoining. Also, the time lapses are getting more frequent and covering more distance as tools get used repeatedly, so the videos are able to cover more ground in less time. It is entirely up to you how you want to move forward. You're the one putting in all the time and effort; we're not entitled to any particular say in the matter. I'm happy no matter what content you're giving me :)
@gusdog5288
@gusdog5288 Год назад
everyones favourite G
@Barcodum
@Barcodum Год назад
Where would you look; how would you include a “Hot Spot”, ala Yellowstone?
@Dragrath1
@Dragrath1 Год назад
There isn't yet a consensus on how they form IRL yet but by looking at the studies of seismic tomography its looking to be the case of plumes forming after a subducted slab finally sinks to the core mantle boundary and begins to melt as it floats on Earth's liquid outer core. A rough estimate for the timescale of subducted crust hitting the core mantle boundary is about 230 million years then add around another 20 million years for the plume to reach the surface and you come full circle with the initiation of the next Wilson cycle. Of course its actually much more complicated than that but that should serve as a rough guideline for the level of detail he is doing. Frankly because of the long time delay and the disagreement on the details the two processes are generally thought of as decoupled though that is beginning to slowly change at the rate of progress. Which cynics have remarked is usually one funeral at a time, because older researchers despite the motto of science still share the human tendency to stubbornly cling to their ideas even as the evidence mounts against them.
@inaminayo5327
@inaminayo5327 Год назад
Y'know, that continent collision is gonna be a nightmare for the spec bio part. The blue continent has been isolated since the start of the simulation, so with a biosphere isolated for 350 million years, I can only imagine what chaos will ensue when it's finally introduced to the rest of the world again. I mean, that's a LONG time. That's like, longer even than the dinosaurs existed. I can't wait.
@t3chkn1ght
@t3chkn1ght Год назад
I mean, this whole simulation thus far (1000 - 650 mya) would've happened long before even the Cambrian explosion, so the effects of the biosphere will be minimal assuming it's using an Earth-esque timescale. I don't think land life would exist yet, considering life didn't come onto land until after 500 mya (not including bacteria).
@inaminayo5327
@inaminayo5327 Год назад
@@t3chkn1ght I assumed that the plate tectonics are specifically for the spec bio part, as a billion years is pretty young for a biosphere, let alone an intelligent civilization. So I assumed it was starting with the Cambrian explosion happening 1 billion years ago. Perhaps that wasn’t correct of me though.
@scottmairs9014
@scottmairs9014 Год назад
I'd personally rather you cover the whole 1bn years of continental evolution. It's heavy, yes. But I'm interested!
@SpuneDagr
@SpuneDagr Год назад
I kinda feel like you just jumped right into "subduction zones" here without a thorough explanation of what they are and why you're adding them and why you put them exactly where you did...? Everything up to this point I could follow your reasoning, but this part threw me off. Why are you making these now? Did something change?
@jospingflobs7811
@jospingflobs7811 Год назад
It's a shame to hear you're doing things differently. Personally, I was looking forward to seeing a full simulation. I've liked the slow-burn approach of the videos so far, but I guess lots of people following along don't find that helpful. Either way, you can't please everyone
@lilguyfinish
@lilguyfinish Год назад
Perhaps a dumb question, perhaps I am so dramatically incorrect in my representation of my worlds plate tectonics that this is in fact an irrelevant question, but what happens when two island arcs "collide"? is that possible? Surely it'd be the same as a two continents colliding right?
@vincentcleaver1925
@vincentcleaver1925 Год назад
Oh frabjous joy!!!
@Philosjutsu
@Philosjutsu Год назад
This series has been great! I can't imagine someone disliking this series of they're interested in this topic. I mean, if you came here for tiktok drama and loud noises I guess this series isn't for you. The level of detail here is fantastic! Seeing a whole "complete" fantasy world built from scratch would be cool. Kinda like the one you showed in an early episode. Instead of just techniques. I would watch both many times!
@TheBiomedZed
@TheBiomedZed Год назад
Personally feel the Gplates stuff is super crunchy and not good as a viewing experience.
@McCainenl
@McCainenl Год назад
I find the plate tectonics profoundly boring but I think it's also cool and perfectly fair that you show how to do it in detail, for the people who do care about that kind of thing in worldbuilding. (I'd personally just post facto approximate something that seems realistic enough)
@daniel_rossy_explica
@daniel_rossy_explica Год назад
Nice. I haven't kept up with my world in GPlates because I want to see the entire process and then go back to each video when I got lost. That's the way I've been watching this channel since I first discovered it (I remember that when I subscribed, the channel was already at "cryogenic stasis", at the time, forever). By the way, since this is the first video of 2023 for this channel, I want to say Happy New Year, Edgard!
@Artifexian
@Artifexian Год назад
Happy New Year to you too. Wishing you all the best in 2023
@lucas_e_jones
@lucas_e_jones Год назад
I have an issue where the oceanic plates have formed such that there's no smoothly sliding away. No matter what, some part of the coast will have to collide with some other part. What do you think is the best way to adress this?
@Artifexian
@Artifexian Год назад
It's a little hard to answer this without seeing a screenshot. Could you DM on twitter or email me at edgargrunewald@artifexian.com
@lucas_e_jones
@lucas_e_jones Год назад
@@Artifexian Will do
@matejondrejka3713
@matejondrejka3713 Год назад
I have a quick question. I cannot at the moment use gplates due to a technical limitation (there are weird green bars on the display and I can't see anything) so I've been using inkskape for the time and I've been wondering if it is a good solution? Also love this series. Can't wait to watch it to the end!
@TAP7a
@TAP7a Год назад
As long as you bear in mind how the geometry and projections work (so the very top and bottom of an equirectangular projection map should be super distorted and pixels in the very top row should all be identical, same as the bottom row, for example) then you should be able to get all the important stuff in there without too much pain
@SPARR0E
@SPARR0E Год назад
Though I personally don't plan on using Gplates, I do find these very useful for just understanding tectonics anyway!
@Ratchet4647
@Ratchet4647 Год назад
I was really very interested in the original vision you had for this series. I think it's unfortunate you have to cut shorten the series to just what's necessary to the demonstration and that you seemed to alter what you were doing with this world's tectonics in order to fit this new game plan.
@mattgolman
@mattgolman Год назад
... I was really looking forward to seeing what the recombined continent looked like.
@SeekingSomeSerenity
@SeekingSomeSerenity Год назад
This isn't for me, and it's not why I subscribed. That being said, it's still interesting to watch and learn about, and especially with you doing the teaching. I like to learn, anyone who subscribed probably does too. Sorry to hear some people are unhappy with the content 😞
@betabee1221
@betabee1221 Год назад
I think i wouldve enjoyed this GPlates section of the series more if at the end of each episode, you would use the aspects shown on the primary habitable-zone planet from the spreadsheet section- even if it made the episodes like 10 minutes longer from timelapses/explainations. We basically havent seen or heard anything of it in this series since the spreadsheet section :(
@deadcat6212
@deadcat6212 Год назад
It is interesting to learn about tectonics and this program (100% will use it later!) but it would have been infinitely more interesting, if you actually made your world, and not just some random test planet.
@RAFMnBgaming
@RAFMnBgaming Год назад
I'm certainly quite content to sit through all this but when it comes to actually doing it, the programmer in me wants to work out how to automate a lot of the housekeeping here. Still, I definitely appreciate the detail/theory you're going into on this.
@jacob_and_william
@jacob_and_william Год назад
As long as you skip all the highly repetitive flowline stuff on-camera, I'd love to see this series just keep going.
@Great_Olaf5
@Great_Olaf5 Год назад
As someone who really likes the GPlatee sections, having wanted to try it out for a while but not having much of a place to start, I agree that that's a good compromise for the people who don't care for it as much.
@RiverHorse01
@RiverHorse01 Год назад
Or potentially just show the animations instead of the actual work, I do enjoy watching all of it; but I assume some don't
@rocko510
@rocko510 Год назад
Thank you for doing the g-plates videos.
@diegoscb
@diegoscb Год назад
You have managed to get me into plate tectonics lol
@SotraEngine4
@SotraEngine4 Год назад
Could you explain what you did with ocean plates when there was so many lines crossing each other? Because I tried making my own project and there were lines crossing each other and I didn't know what to do
@Artifexian
@Artifexian Год назад
Could you give me a timestamp?
@SotraEngine4
@SotraEngine4 Год назад
@@Artifexian You can see flow lines for two different continent pairings like on top of each other between 15:00 and 16:00 As in simulation time stamp it is like 700 I think I am refering to what you did in the edited out timestamp time When you showed the ocean crust making There were no flow line sets on top of each other
@MCPhssthpok
@MCPhssthpok Год назад
How is Worldbuilding Pasta getting on with the real Artifexia? We haven't seen any progress images for a while.
@Artifexian
@Artifexian Год назад
It's finished! Full tour coming after the tutorial series is over.
@alexkempes1919
@alexkempes1919 Год назад
I'm loving the new pace and strategy vis a vis Gplates. I really admire your commitment to making a complete and thorough tutorial, but it can be a bit tedious... I think you really struck a good balance now. Keep it up really great stuff is coming!!
@robertscott7812
@robertscott7812 Год назад
I think the videos are helpful and amazing, it's just that the actual process is really tedious. I spent a few hours trying to set up my simulation and still ran into problems after my first rifting event.😅 As you've mentioned, Gplates is a very clunky tool, and I think the difficulties of that is making this part of the series just a little intimidating/discouraging through no fault of your own. I'd want to see your advice for the entire process, but I understand why you might want to get through this part as quick as possible.
@StormTheSquid
@StormTheSquid Год назад
Personally I've been following this guide closely. My only gripe about the plate tectonics section is that this simplified example doesn't *really* show all the steps involved in what a real world would go through at each time step. For example mine has already had part of a mid-ocean ridge subduct under another section of oceanic crust, has had a lot of issues with strange collisions that haven't been covered yet, and I'm now stuck waiting on your next videos hoping they'll cover what I need to know. This one hasn't, but I suspect the next one will, and I look forward to it. I understand that the videos would be much longer if you covered an actual world simulation, but honestly, this kind of content deserves longer videos anyway, it's hard to cover everything that's needed in just 20 minutes with your style of commentary and explanation, I imagine. TL;DR: Another great video, I just wish you decided to show the process of creating an actual world rather than a simplified example.
@andreazanon5995
@andreazanon5995 Год назад
I've paused the series right at the beginning of the plate tectonics part because at the moment I do not have the time and energy to follow something this involved. However, I do really like the idea of having a full-blown GPlates tutorial series, and if you make it I will definitely watch it in a few months' time (university is not always fun and games)
@OnLowBattery
@OnLowBattery Год назад
I was really enjoying this series but for some reason I got distracted right as you began doing this gplate stuff. Going back through it now, it's fascinating. I have to thank you for showing such dedication!
@ATOM-vv3xu
@ATOM-vv3xu Год назад
this series is great, sadly I did not had Internet yesterday but your videos always have really high priority in my subscribers box
@JonathanUsmar
@JonathanUsmar Год назад
When you get back to theoretical worldbuilding. Aquifers? Where should my villages have wells, where can't they?
@Artifexian
@Artifexian Год назад
Unfortunately, I know nothing about aquifers :(
@JonathanUsmar
@JonathanUsmar Год назад
@@Artifexian ahh. Fair. You just seem to know so much I assumed.
@lotusnaturals1897
@lotusnaturals1897 Год назад
I enjoy the GPlates stuff, just not as much as the other stuff
@SpuneDagr
@SpuneDagr Год назад
I adore these videos. Keep doing them.
@volcryndarkstar
@volcryndarkstar Год назад
I like the gplates series. I say keep it going.
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