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Erik ten Hag's Manchester United lost 4-0 to Brentford away from home on Saturday. talkSPORT's Simon Jordan, Jim White and Graeme Souness discuss!
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@sir.chalksalot
@sir.chalksalot 2 года назад
Remarkable that we are so quick to blame the manager when these players have consistently not shown up for any of their previous managers.
@Caspthereaper
@Caspthereaper 2 года назад
Yep same name 3 managers in a row 👏
@HafizShivji786
@HafizShivji786 2 года назад
@@Caspthereaper think he's biggest problem is despite having over 2 months of preseason & yet he failed to instill basics
@registame2878
@registame2878 2 года назад
This manager had the fortune to watch the other mangers fail and he is failing on the way to being a total failure. The man couldn’t work out that having 2/4 defensive players on the field against a industrious team was a bad idea !
@registame2878
@registame2878 2 года назад
That’s what mangers are for!
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
@jhpfdijtuiweruot 2 года назад
Yip... pointless stating to the players that they have to follow your rules when they know the manager has no authority on anything and the players are fully supported by the board no matter what they do
@ChadLouisNewton
@ChadLouisNewton 2 года назад
They've taken 45 points from their last 35 League Games and Ten Hag has been in charge for two of them. If you seriously think he's the problem you're either badly missing or deliberately ignoring the real issues. Wouldn't blame him if he walks out to be fair, as the job was clearly mis-sold to him.
@ronoccc
@ronoccc 2 года назад
in fairness though, he has to take blame also,he's had 6 weeks preseason and they look terrible
@spurs7151
@spurs7151 2 года назад
He doesn't have the force of personality for the Man Utd job. Spurs spotted this after interviewing him. He's way out of his depth. He doesn't command the respect of the players.
@Maax1200
@Maax1200 2 года назад
@Spurs71. The players should stfu and earn their wages. If it takes less than six weeks before some bitches starts whining, its not the coach.
@awcarpetsflooring9380
@awcarpetsflooring9380 2 года назад
@@ronoccc he was promised 6 players he wanted he hasn't got them
@alexcore697
@alexcore697 2 года назад
Two games?? We have watched a whole season of this crap team and hes done nothing to change any of it,,,We wanted a full restructure all bad players sold instead he crapped on Ragnicks report thinking he can turn around a load of over payed arseholes,He wasnt mis sold anything Tens arrogance is to blame for this start
@MuthuBalaGuruK
@MuthuBalaGuruK Год назад
Watching this debate after 6 months 🤣😂🤣 how the time has changed so quickly
@Liam021
@Liam021 Год назад
It always feels good to laugh at Souness
@User594gs57
@User594gs57 Год назад
Wish someone would pull him up on the nonsense he spits.
@dilnaylomogorhaiyee1450
@dilnaylomogorhaiyee1450 2 года назад
The rot started the moment LVG was sacked after winning the FA Cup… the death blow came when Ed Woodward decided to back Pogba instead of Mourinho… from then on the players.. the inmates knew that they ran the asylum.
@Alzenryo
@Alzenryo 2 года назад
the rot should be started from Glazers, even tho they won titles it was because of SAF genius.
@vummiendiweni7680
@vummiendiweni7680 2 года назад
Woodward panicked when City roped in Pep, and decided to fire LVG. LVG waas trying, given the personnel at his disposal. In the 2 years of LVG we dominated both city and liverpool, yet we had the likes of blackett, mcnair, brothwick-jackson in out starting line-up. We only lost twice to Liverpool in the europa league, and once to city when smalling got a red card.
@wonkybear4400
@wonkybear4400 2 года назад
@@vummiendiweni7680 Ahh yes, Mike Smalling :D
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
@jhpfdijtuiweruot 2 года назад
It goes back much further than that. But sacking LVG (and the way they did it) was one of many, many mistakes made by these clowns, agreed
@andyhulme2274
@andyhulme2274 2 года назад
@@vummiendiweni7680 van gaal asked the board to get mane while he was at saltzburg mahrez, kante, muller, hummels, ramos, neymar before he left brazil and woodward ignored him on every one woodward bought dia Maria to sell shirts over van gaals preference of sadio mane they under mined a top manager.....
@orourkedafootball
@orourkedafootball 2 года назад
I'm not a Manchester United supporter. To be honest, I'm finding the whole situation thoroughly enjoyable and hope it continues. However, to hold Erik Ten Hag responsible for this mess after 2 league games is obscene. From the outside looking in, it appears to me that the club has been horriby mismanaged and needs a clean out. Top to Bottom. Playing staff, recruitment, owners you name it.
@hawkmanson6136
@hawkmanson6136 2 года назад
Kept maguire as captain Spent 55 mil on Martinez Played like shaw lol And erikson st then cdm 😂😂 and that just 2 games
@mh9tv
@mh9tv 2 года назад
Yes but Ten Hag is to blame for picking Mclaren as a coach.. he was good 20yrs ago not now.. buying the shortest CB in league, keeping Mguire Captain, Making only 1 change frm the Brighton lineup at Brentford. These r all TEN Hags decisions aka Johnny Sins
@orourkedafootball
@orourkedafootball 2 года назад
@S. I think they've played their part
@jamestaylor841
@jamestaylor841 2 года назад
@@hawkmanson6136 totally agree martinez looks like he's playing with his older brothers and ten haag proper pushed for him
@mister3566
@mister3566 2 года назад
@S. Nice aren't you
@theodorejaja4535
@theodorejaja4535 2 года назад
Even pep would fight for his job with united
@Anthony-pw5gu
@Anthony-pw5gu 2 года назад
He wouldn't stoop so low and manage that shite
@kwabenadonkor1865
@kwabenadonkor1865 2 года назад
U were wrong
@pamberinehondo9447
@pamberinehondo9447 Год назад
And 6 months later the man has proved everybody wrong………a difficult time for United 😂😂😂. Head and shoulders above Liverpool who are on such a downward spiral……
@kojomckenzie
@kojomckenzie Год назад
I came back to see from where we came. It's been a long journey and it's not finished yet. But Ten Hag is leading us back where we belong.
@paucordova8440
@paucordova8440 Год назад
and... a league cup already.
@treyyg-rt5kz
@treyyg-rt5kz Год назад
@@paucordova8440 Mickey Mouse trophies and out of title race as ten hag been found out as he’s just ole ball with inform rashford 😂
@graciescott1649
@graciescott1649 Год назад
6 months down the line we’ve beaten city Liverpool arsenal spurs we are 90 mins away from a cup final comfortably on our way to a top 4 finish still going for another 2 trophies and playing very consistently this aged like a fine wine one love one united👊👊👊👊
@pjoseph5950
@pjoseph5950 Год назад
I've played the game 🤣🤣
@Matthew-ud3yh
@Matthew-ud3yh Год назад
And still going strong 💪❌️❌️❌️ lets go Ten Hag and United
@00lh02
@00lh02 Год назад
This aged well.
@SootyHunt
@SootyHunt 2 года назад
“Don’t be surprised by surprises in football” Great quote Grahame !
@generalwasteman
@generalwasteman Год назад
Just back for a laugh at Sourness as United and ETH are tearing it up and Liverpool are flailing in mid table 😂
@mikepeters5549
@mikepeters5549 Год назад
loool
@treyyg-rt5kz
@treyyg-rt5kz Год назад
Back to reality now, it’s just ole ball
@danieldoyle7084
@danieldoyle7084 Год назад
Well this, like many of Souness’ comments, aged like milk.
@AchtungBaby77
@AchtungBaby77 Год назад
Utd were spanked 6-3 by City and 7-0 by Liverpool since this embarrassing result at Brentford 😅
@Vermilion2049
@Vermilion2049 2 года назад
I am with Ten Hag. If we get relegated with him. I still support him.
@mwheezee
@mwheezee 2 года назад
L
@johnleahy5095
@johnleahy5095 2 года назад
He will defo get you top 4 in championship
@somethingisbaking2401
@somethingisbaking2401 2 года назад
What is this blind loyalty
@bestyoueverhad.2408
@bestyoueverhad.2408 2 года назад
your delusion is quite remarkable kid.
@polpol1005
@polpol1005 2 года назад
if or when? :O
@KinSC
@KinSC Год назад
Souness has been quiet lately.😂
@kb9072
@kb9072 2 года назад
When Conte lost just after joining Spurs to a small club in the Conference League he said I'm beginning to see that the level is not so good. At that moment nobody blamed him but the players (he was right). My point is he wasn't held responsible so why is ETH responsible for the first 2 games?
@LeeTAZ-sl7de
@LeeTAZ-sl7de 2 года назад
Because its man United and despite not being a threat in 7 years we are still hated by nearly every clubs supporters in England. These shows and the media in general will jump at any chance to create a negative story for clicks... take last season despite Arteta being in charge of Arsenal for over 18 months and them spending 150 mil that summer, they lost there opening 3 matches including a loss to newly promoted Brentford, the narrative was completely different. Ten Hag was always gonna need time to change our fortunes, we lost 3 experienced midfielders and it was always gonna be a struggle.
@awcarpetsflooring9380
@awcarpetsflooring9380 2 года назад
Agenda mate all agenda
@mrfab4383
@mrfab4383 2 года назад
One game with his B team in the Europa, who cares. He had a system from the day one with a strategy.
@irieite9666
@irieite9666 2 года назад
Because according to him he is on the same page with the executives when it comes to transfers. In other words its him who decided to get a 60 million defender who's so weak they had to bring him off for his own good at half time against Brentford. And it was him who wanted to pay for a 33 year old Arnautovic when a 27 Year old Euro 2020 winning Belotti is available for free. Maybe things will change but either he is part of the problem or else he seems like Ole 2.0 just acting as a puppet and lightning rod for the owners and board.
@kb9072
@kb9072 2 года назад
@@mrfab4383 It wasn't the B team. Lots of first choice players lost that game. I'm a Spurs fan and love Conte and in no way blame him. He was right. The level of the players was poor. I don't understand why ETH doesn't say the same.
@alexbelotti1603
@alexbelotti1603 2 года назад
We need a GARY NEVILLE and SIMON JORDAN showdown!!!!! Come on
@BigALBoomer
@BigALBoomer 2 года назад
I'd pay to see that. Neville is a moaning little toe rag Simon would wipe the floor with him
@aliyushuaibu4447
@aliyushuaibu4447 2 года назад
YeaaaaaaaaaaaS pleaseeeeeee! Gary constantly blaming the Glazers
@johndennison3140
@johndennison3140 2 года назад
Gary who?
@alexbelotti1603
@alexbelotti1603 2 года назад
@@johndennison3140 the son of Neville Neville
@alexbelotti1603
@alexbelotti1603 2 года назад
@@aliyushuaibu4447 the showdown we need!!!!
@mohanxt
@mohanxt Год назад
Graeme Souness! -- thank you ! Manchester United vs Barcelona 2-1 // Sitting on 3rd in the League // playing for all for cups .. 😝😝😝😝
@migweld5578
@migweld5578 2 года назад
Oi Jim, tell Karen in HR to stop cutting the live feed when the convo gets slightly controversial or potentially libelous.
@malcolmjones6010
@malcolmjones6010 2 года назад
Ah, I had an inkling that's what was happening. Totally agree. Though it's funny when White stirs the you know what with his pathetic attempts at being "in charge" and he's not told to shut up and stop talking b*******
@whateverk491
@whateverk491 Год назад
Clock is ticking on Klopp already. 🤡
@JMB1891
@JMB1891 2 года назад
Erik ten Hag has either overestimated the ability of this squad or his own ability to change it.
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
@jhpfdijtuiweruot 2 года назад
Do you really think he asked for this squad plus Eriksen on a free transfer when he went for interview?
@mrb2643
@mrb2643 2 года назад
Oh please another deluded fan wanting a manager change. Let the club go to the lowest and build from there. I mean like the phoenix rise from the ashes. Let UTD scrap for relegation this season perhaps drop down division and then we see real changes and revolution.
@andyhulme2274
@andyhulme2274 2 года назад
@@mrb2643 rashford Fred Shaw maguire are the culprits of the last two years totally inept on the pitch, has this ten hagg not done his homework, rangnick said they needed a 7 player clear out which they have not done, inept against Brighton then picked again for Brentford, we've got some reserve talent that's had a good pre season not been given a chance for a fresh start and this ten hagg is looking like a chump for picking these chumps that's over estimating these wasters..... They will throw him under a bus if he keeps picking them...
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
@jhpfdijtuiweruot 2 года назад
@@andyhulme2274 The vast majority of Utd fans acknowledged that Maguire was the club's best player for the season before Ronaldo arrived though? And Fred was the only player that showed any positive signs last season. Shaw and Rashford have always been duff. Reality does not match your fantasy.
@michaelt9511
@michaelt9511 2 года назад
He has done both. He has overestimated everything
@kakoyovictor-qj6sh
@kakoyovictor-qj6sh Год назад
The hate that is spewd here is just something else I mean you might think they were the best coaches during their time
@alexbelotti1603
@alexbelotti1603 2 года назад
Erik Ten Haag needs to leave before his reputation is ruined. He was naive to think United would buy multiple players, leave Erik.
@ugez4060
@ugez4060 2 года назад
And Maguire still starts with the armband. That alone is a killer
@limofootball
@limofootball 2 года назад
And pochettino would stupidly take it still after all this.
@TrollingNormies
@TrollingNormies 2 года назад
What reputation 😂
@paulhirst7602
@paulhirst7602 2 года назад
@@ugez4060 yep...that should've being first thing he did as soon as he came through those doors at Old Trafford. Take the captaincy off of slabhead...it would've set his stall out immediately.
@polaris7122
@polaris7122 2 года назад
Yes in his first game when getting beat, his master tactic was to bring on 3 subs in the 89th min, then he went to Brentford and played with a team of dwarfs. Yes, he definitely is a master tactician!
@att3121
@att3121 Год назад
What a lunatic Souness is 😂
@Themamachannel69
@Themamachannel69 2 года назад
They should have got Conte in last season when they sacked Ole
@orlandobailey2237
@orlandobailey2237 2 года назад
The board was afraid of him
@solskjaer1195
@solskjaer1195 2 года назад
Conte alone wouldn't work. He'd still have to report to dumb and dumber aka Murtough and Arnold.
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
@jhpfdijtuiweruot 2 года назад
And he would have walked out by now
@solskjaer1195
@solskjaer1195 2 года назад
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot He'd have smashed one of them in the face and walked out. Hahaha
@noreturn4396
@noreturn4396 2 года назад
Please interview Nicky Butt: ask him why he resigned in protest over the promotion of Darren Fletcher and power grab by John Murtough. Writing has been on the wall - a bunch of mediocre bottom feeders with no accountability in the backroom or on the pitch. ETH is hardly to blame.
@alphabeat1221
@alphabeat1221 2 года назад
Exactly
@PorkChopExpress86
@PorkChopExpress86 2 года назад
Bang on. Fletcher came in "to get his badges "coaching the youths. Within a few months he was magically technical director ,also in the dugout. You couldn't make this stuff up
@noreturn4396
@noreturn4396 2 года назад
@@PorkChopExpress86 Spot on!! Nobody ever talks about this. Managers do not have the free reign the media would have us believe. Fletcher was recently made permanent - on what merit?! Total mediocrity. Would love to hear what Butty has to say, that short was hushed up.
@alphabeat1221
@alphabeat1221 2 года назад
Was banned by Ragnick earlier in the year from shouting instructions to players on the sidelines. Look it up!
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
@jhpfdijtuiweruot 2 года назад
Butt and Fletcher would not be anywhere near any other top level club in European football. The fact that Butt was ever in charge of the talent pathway at Utd is ludicrous. And Fletcher sent his boys to City academy. You couldn't make this stuff up
@User594gs57
@User594gs57 Год назад
Nope Graeme the clock is ticking on you n your nonsense.
@LDT1985
@LDT1985 2 года назад
SERIOUSLY.....Ten Hag has had about six games in charge and four of those were in pre-season! Why are platforms like this putting this level of rubbish out. Talksport has turned into a clickbait for social media. Sad to see.
@Wheresnorth4romhere
@Wheresnorth4romhere 2 года назад
Pretty much every mainstream platform does this mate. All they care about is pound notes.
@General12300
@General12300 2 года назад
Yh but normally there's a new manager boost when a new gaffer comes in.. 0-4 at Brentford is not acceptable with that squad .. and his subs were terrible
@marekfalk5369
@marekfalk5369 2 года назад
they are right, he can be out of his job next month
@The_Final_Boss_Luka_Mora
@The_Final_Boss_Luka_Mora 2 года назад
Frank De Beor didn't last 5 games because of his incompetence and that was at Crystal Palace. Ten hag has had 3 months to assess this team buy players and the best he can do is waste money on ex players who are not good enough to compete in this league.
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
@jhpfdijtuiweruot 2 года назад
"has turned into"? That's their exact business model
@lucascooper7596
@lucascooper7596 Год назад
This has aged like milk.
@ejaylala1
@ejaylala1 2 года назад
As Arsenal fans, we saw this exact movie last season. People will overreact but United will be fine. If the United hierarchy believe Ten Hag is the guy, they’ll give him time and resources to get it right. You can’t panic after every bad result
@gratefulkm
@gratefulkm 2 года назад
Arsenal were close , but it stayed a football Club Utd sign players based on Click value, Winning the league generates 20 million Pogba made 30 million for the club a season as an example So the marketing dept sign the players They lost all thier grit players this summer They are going to get relegated
@Daniel-cp4bd
@Daniel-cp4bd 2 года назад
@@gratefulkm nah it’s different we started the season with balogun up front and two of our main players missing chambers and mari in defence lokanga in midfield we also played city and Chelsea 😂
@nadeemamode
@nadeemamode 2 года назад
The difference is that arteta is learning on the job. So arsenal fans could see that, you can lower expectations and let things come along. The other issue is the cost. Why is the price so high?
@Daniel-cp4bd
@Daniel-cp4bd 2 года назад
@@nadeemamode he had a full season before that season tho but I understand what you’re trying to say
@oteng10111
@oteng10111 Год назад
You were like a wizard in your analysis!!
@sphinxzoo
@sphinxzoo 2 года назад
Mentioned everything except Maguire...wow
@krycek1976
@krycek1976 2 года назад
Ten Hag needs at least a full season. We can’t keep changing managers hoping for some miracle especially with the current squad. The mood, culture, mindset and ethos needs an overhaul and you can’t expect any manager to that when it’s as bad as it is atUtd ~ Simple as that! I personally hope he gets a chance 🙏
@polpol1005
@polpol1005 2 года назад
good point
@twyscape
@twyscape 2 года назад
This reminds me so much of Tottenhams recent past. The players got to the Champions League final (on the back of a not so great season) and after losing the final, they downed tools on Pochetino, Murinio (Played a little for Mason) and then downed tools on Nuno. Now we have Conte and it looks like the players are working for a manager finally. I’m seeing the same issues at Man UTD. The problem is squarely at the feet of the players.
@andrewmartin2103
@andrewmartin2103 2 года назад
Rubbish we have the best stadium in the UK the best training ground man utd are buggered.
@lut5555
@lut5555 2 года назад
The fact he can't drop Maguire as Captain and still play McFred speaks volumes
@avocado4662
@avocado4662 2 года назад
Right on, bro. McGuire should be fired on spot, he doesn’t deserve a place in team, let alone captain
@TSF15152
@TSF15152 Год назад
Lmao this aged well 😂
@alandalton7652
@alandalton7652 2 года назад
The championship that's how far they will sink this season
@britpackdog4545
@britpackdog4545 2 года назад
Popcorn at the ready
@richardjones8699
@richardjones8699 2 года назад
Better than League 1 though isn't it.
@Anthony-pw5gu
@Anthony-pw5gu 2 года назад
😂😂😂😂😂
@britpackdog4545
@britpackdog4545 2 года назад
@@richardjones8699 tell us when you get there
@richardjones8699
@richardjones8699 2 года назад
@@britpackdog4545 you lot have been there and not that long ago. You should know.
@r.a.w.talentart
@r.a.w.talentart 2 года назад
It's basically the equivalent of giving Roger Federer a badminton racket and telling him he has to win!
@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere
@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere 2 года назад
No it's the equivalent of giving Federer a 450m racquet and he goes out and gets absolutely smashed by someone holding a 50m racquet. Stop making excuses for this fraud of a manager. How can you have any sympathy for a man that selects Maguire over a world cup, champions league winning varane? He's trying to play out from the back when it's known by everyone that de gea can't kick a ball to save his life! Ten Hag is fully responsible for these two defeats, stop making excuses for this clown.
@whateverk491
@whateverk491 Год назад
Hello intellectuals and geniuses
@glazersout4272
@glazersout4272 Год назад
Well this aged well.. . Just like his drivel about Casimero and Carragher's verbal diahorrea about Martinez. I think it's time to hang up the mic and retire from punditry, before you embarrass yourself any further. Far from being in danger of losing his job, Ten Hag has now turned this club around and, if we had owners who give a damn about the club, would've been backed in January so we'd have a squad that could very possibly walk away with a whole haul of trophies. As it is, our paper thin squad should still get top four and possibly the Carabao Cup. Just because you've "played the game" a hundred years ago doesn't mean you understand modern football, Mr Souness.
@randopedia1
@randopedia1 2 года назад
As a fan of 33 years, ETH is nowhere near fighting for his job in my mind. Players are, scouts are, board room Members are. ETH has 3 years. And if we start at the bottom (as we are), then that’s what we do.
@damianfreeman4326
@damianfreeman4326 2 года назад
40 years a utd fan and I've never seen a team so spineless, doesn't matter who the manager is when they walk over the white line the players are responsible if they had a leader on the field they'd have some chance but that team has no leader I'd have to check the stats but I remember reading they were bottom of the league last season for distance covered and it seems like nothing has changed they looked unfit compared to both Brighton and Brentford and Liverpool are going to demolish that team they have a week to put it right but I won't be holding out for anything against Liverpool, when I seen the first 3 games I thought we'd win the first 2 and hopefully scrape a draw with Liverpool, that aged quickly 🤦‍♂️ going to be another long season 😣
@kwabenadonkor1865
@kwabenadonkor1865 2 года назад
Sometimes u just have to be patient
@glazersout4272
@glazersout4272 Год назад
Since then, it's been nothing but an upward curve with a slight blip against the cheaters over on the Blue side.
@mitchconner4057
@mitchconner4057 2 года назад
Simon calling Neville a Trotskyite 🤣🤣
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
@jhpfdijtuiweruot 2 года назад
Same accusation can be fairly made at anyone involved with football over the last two years (including Jordan). They all nodded along to the official narrative like good citizens. Pot and kettle stuff here
@andyhulme2274
@andyhulme2274 2 года назад
He is
@andyhulme2274
@andyhulme2274 2 года назад
@Paddy Bateman they are all to blame the glaziers appointed woodward a x banker who undermined van gaals transfer list and bought most of the chumps at utd who also undermined Mourinho's transfer list....
@dermotkelly6946
@dermotkelly6946 2 года назад
You really think maclaren knows what is going on at Brentford or anywhere now 😂
@starshapedtambourineman
@starshapedtambourineman 2 года назад
Simon had me in tears on this rant 😂
@KennyIMO
@KennyIMO 2 года назад
Ten Hag needs a few seasons to sort this team out, he's inherited a poor team with a bad attitude
@polaris7122
@polaris7122 2 года назад
In his first game he was trailing 1-2, so he decided to bring on 3 subs in the 89th minute, then he went to Brentford and played a team of dwarfs, one of them being his major signing, and he took him off at half time!!!
@abishekratheesh8731
@abishekratheesh8731 2 года назад
@@polaris7122 first match in the pl it'll take time to understand the weakness and strengths of different teams.
@abccba5637
@abccba5637 2 года назад
Is it you Ten Haag??? If so keep dreaming lol
@vincentodong7904
@vincentodong7904 2 года назад
He made one wrong move already. Maintaining Maguire as Captain
@polaris7122
@polaris7122 2 года назад
@@abishekratheesh8731 2 matches, and if you can excuse him bringing on 3 subs in the 89th min you are deluded. No one in their right mind from any league would do that. Also to buy a 5 ft 9 inch CB and then suddenly realize that Brentford play with quite a few giants and that he would have to take him off at half time is beyond a joke! I suggest that he moves Martinez into midfield for the Liverpool game because he can't be any worse than McFred!
@Jamie-kv9eg
@Jamie-kv9eg 2 года назад
Every manager is fighting for their job. That’s the nature of the premier league. Ten Hag is in no immediate danger.
@IamTheStormThatIsApproaching1
@IamTheStormThatIsApproaching1 2 года назад
You would think so, but history kind of suggests that it's a possibility. He wouldn't be the first manager to come to the prem and be sacked within a few months.
@dewiwilliams4821
@dewiwilliams4821 2 года назад
Could be like de boer at Palace, it may be destined to fail if he insists on playing a way the squad can't execute.
@tobylerone4285
@tobylerone4285 2 года назад
@@IamTheStormThatIsApproaching1 who replaces him though? Poch? Not many options about atm
@richardjones8699
@richardjones8699 2 года назад
@@tobylerone4285 Poch would face it exactly the same problems. A lacklustre squad and nowhere near enough money for a rebuild.
@fearlessformidableferociou8623
@fearlessformidableferociou8623 2 года назад
@@tobylerone4285 Big Sam, he'll sort your defence out
@alansmith2387
@alansmith2387 2 года назад
This is beautiful to watch. Let's hope the go down to the championship
@katlegoPilane
@katlegoPilane Год назад
They will not be going down. At least not this season. How does that make you feel?
@shawncdonnelly
@shawncdonnelly 2 года назад
Coaching Manchester United is like one night in Bangkok. It makes a hard man humble.
@TheRealDuracellBunny
@TheRealDuracellBunny Год назад
This has aged well
@thatsthejobbb8587
@thatsthejobbb8587 Год назад
Love how this just springs up on my feed after united take the league cup! Souness is a schmuck and thank God he's been MIA!!
@stugtodd2778
@stugtodd2778 2 года назад
No way is he already fighting for his job. He's only been in charge 2 months or less and two PL matches in. He stated from the very beginning that it will take time and there's no quick fix. All this crap is bullshit.
@joegugg4129
@joegugg4129 2 года назад
loosing 8-0 to Liverpool would get Ten Haag the Tuesday morning sack
@joegugg4129
@joegugg4129 2 года назад
@@Andre-hm5vo Sounds like rock bottom by Christmas
@Jonathan-yd8ud
@Jonathan-yd8ud 2 года назад
Manchester aren't even the biggest club in their own city never mind the world. Yesterday's men.
@Andre-hm5vo
@Andre-hm5vo 2 года назад
Man United are small time now irrelevant club lol
@Red-Red-Red-Red
@Red-Red-Red-Red 2 года назад
As a Liverpool fan Ten Hag will turn it around and put United back on form, right after he goes through his last mauling when Liverpool win 8-0 at Old Trafford next Monday.
@Andre-hm5vo
@Andre-hm5vo 2 года назад
I'm expecting double figures from liverpool next Monday surely 🤣
@sibusisocedric01
@sibusisocedric01 2 года назад
As a Liverpool fan I'm loving every moment of this 😍 long shall it rain
@bigpoppaHH69
@bigpoppaHH69 2 года назад
Warra trophy for Liverpool
@mister3566
@mister3566 2 года назад
Learn to spell
@mister3566
@mister3566 2 года назад
Reign. You should stay in school instead of procrastinating at home.
@donaldellis3609
@donaldellis3609 2 года назад
@jerseyboy you may have had to many classes.
@sibusisocedric01
@sibusisocedric01 2 года назад
@@mister3566 if you played Fifa in the days of Andy Grey commentary you would know what i mean when i say long shall it rain.
@robertjones2486
@robertjones2486 2 года назад
im a liverpool fan and loving it to be honest we took enough stick off united over the years but on a pure football level their defence is an utter shambles central defenders are shocking midfield just workman like and lazy forwards
@andyfletch1434
@andyfletch1434 2 года назад
One thing I noticed was the water break, when 2 nil down. Ten Haig was just muttering to himself and the players were walking past him! I think he is another Frank De Boer!
@innihbassey6369
@innihbassey6369 Год назад
LoL how do you like him now? 😂
@FOOTIATOR
@FOOTIATOR Год назад
lol 😂
@dixonlutombi731
@dixonlutombi731 Год назад
Came back to remind myself where we came from.. GGMU
@thomascooper1144
@thomascooper1144 2 года назад
If you select players like Maguire over Varane, then to quote the Joker “You get what you fucking deserve”.
@magikarpsplashy
@magikarpsplashy 2 года назад
Yes, because Martinez wasn't the issue in both games this season was he 😂
@thomascooper1144
@thomascooper1144 2 года назад
@@magikarpsplashy Yeah it was all Martinez’s fault! Well done 👍
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
@jhpfdijtuiweruot 2 года назад
Real Madrid let players go when they know they are past their prime. Varane barely spent a handful of nights sleeping in Manchester last year. Off sick more days than he attended work. Not the answer
@thomascooper1144
@thomascooper1144 2 года назад
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot Don’t care if the guys lost a leg he’s still infinitely better than Maguire.
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
@jhpfdijtuiweruot 2 года назад
@@thomascooper1144 And when exactly did I say that Maguire was a better player than Varane...? I can wait...
@King1000x
@King1000x 2 года назад
Ragnick warned him but ETH decided he didn’t want Ragnick around because he could do it on his own. Ragnick would have been an incredible DOF. Ragnick would have told him not to buy a 5’9 CB.
@olufemi42
@olufemi42 2 года назад
Martinez could come in and play CDM! I think he’d be phenomenal in that position
@ayirothestan7733
@ayirothestan7733 Год назад
We were in the Mud back then......10 Hag is Genius, whose laughing now
@usmanbaiyewu1404
@usmanbaiyewu1404 2 года назад
"He's not a vastly experienced manager" why didn't he say the same about his mate ole
@maniac577
@maniac577 2 года назад
Because Ole did manage United reserve team before and already played for The Club and knew The culture. Ole best since fergie
@arjunsingadia2459
@arjunsingadia2459 Год назад
Aged. Very. Well
@SadatJameel13
@SadatJameel13 Год назад
As a United fan I'm proud of the brilliant job Ten Hag has done since this misery of a game.
@drakenkraken8455
@drakenkraken8455 2 года назад
Martinez does not look 5'9 to me. Maybe in High heels. More like 5'6. This is Erik Ten Months' baby. And Man Utd will be stuck with him for 5 years. Congrats!!
@rayfootblogs
@rayfootblogs 2 года назад
For anybody to attempt to question Ten Hag, before Tuchel joined Chelsea all he won was 2 French Leagues with PSG and a German Cup with Borrusia Dortmund so hopefully Ten Hag gets 2 years. Sadly, a succession of bad results could dictate his dismissal before the January transfer window as Ten Hag could suffer the same fate as Nuno Espirito Santos at Spurs last season.
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
@jhpfdijtuiweruot 2 года назад
Jim White could easily get a game for Utd next Monday night. We all could...
@DarioBrubeck
@DarioBrubeck Год назад
Ladies and gents, the GREAT, Greame Souness....
@seansines
@seansines Год назад
This didn’t age well.
@mrmitchell78
@mrmitchell78 2 года назад
Absolutely ridiculous to blame Ten Hag.
@ocubex
@ocubex 2 года назад
First time I've agreed with Simon. I think Gary Neville is pushing the agenda to oust the Glazers so is ignoring the poor tactics from the manager. The 3rd goal was identical to the 2nd goal, why not change the tactics after conceding 2 goals? If they play like this against Liverpool, they will have to (like we say in Nigeria) come with a basket.
@gratefulkm
@gratefulkm 2 года назад
Neville is simply saying, like Simon said, When you delegate, you expect what you inspect The Glazers only expect money, so they only look at the money Which means the money men can sell the Football down the river for more profit ! Because we are not an American model . we have relegation At the moment due to the owners not inspecting the Teams performance The money men have made lots of money and left the Team to Rot ! And it is so rotten Utd could go down, no matter the manager they essentially have a team of ballerinas
@mh9tv
@mh9tv 2 года назад
Exactly right.. Neviles owns a hotel opposite Old Trafford which he rips the utd fans for rooms and Glazers opposed it. He wants glazers out so he can try get in with new owners and have his hotel as a partner of mufc
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
@jhpfdijtuiweruot 2 года назад
@@mh9tv Yes but Jordan is clearly annoyed that a bloke from Bury has built such an empire out of football when his own attempts to do so didn't work out
@kwabenadonkor1865
@kwabenadonkor1865 2 года назад
How the manager doing now? Lol u need to relax the season just started
@The_Final_Boss_Luka_Mora
@The_Final_Boss_Luka_Mora 2 года назад
If we get spanked by Liverpool, Ten Hag needs to do the decent thing and resign. Simon Jordan is spot on.
@ashwilliams4959
@ashwilliams4959 2 года назад
If? You mean when
@Andre-hm5vo
@Andre-hm5vo 2 года назад
It's got to be double figures from Liverpool next Monday 🤣🤣🤣
@DiRtYLaWs2007
@DiRtYLaWs2007 2 года назад
“It’s a man’s game all of a sudden”. Graeme Souness, August 2022 😂
@bensmith5288
@bensmith5288 2 года назад
Whats the problem?
@oliverhunter9495
@oliverhunter9495 2 года назад
He knew what he was saying. It’s both correct, incorrect and he said it both provoke but talk a truth
@stevegoggin6708
@stevegoggin6708 2 года назад
As an Arsenal fan, let me just tell you... the manager isn't fighting for his job already and I'm sick of hearing it every time a new manager gets off to a bad start at a big club. Time is key. Given Arteta hasn't even got into the top 4 yet, but it doesn't take a genius to see the change in the club internally and the type of performances we're putting in week in week out. It's all on the board! Pre-Super League talks, Arsenal were ruined from the top down. It took the fans, manager and directors voice to finally get the board to back the process. If you're in, you're 100% in not 90% or 95%. Listen to the fans, listen to the manager and TRUST them. Since our board has done that things have been going well for us. Ten Haag needs time, listening to and backed. It takes more than a year or 2 to get the players fully invested and on the same page as the clubs goals. It takes 2+ windows to get the managers players in that will fit the system. You can't just throw the managers job on the line just because OGS + Mourinho players aren't buying into his tactics and system after 2 games. Not even at the end of the season. This season and possibly next season is a complete write off for Manchester United. You'll have moments of beauty and even a winning run, but you're gonna have a lot more heartache unfortunately. Its not gonna be a fun start, but if the manager is actually supported by the board this could be turning point for united back to greatness. Just be patient.
@alexholt6810
@alexholt6810 2 года назад
They wont beat liverpool next week. They have shown thier fragility in the last 2 games. When liverpool come onto them with the intensity that they play with under klopp they'll fold. The fact that they want to bring in more potentially toxic players such as rabiot whilst considering the sale of garner a decent youngster who would jump at the chance to play for his boyhood club shows how from top to bottom this club is broken.
@paul.c8693
@paul.c8693 2 года назад
I agree with every word Simon is saying for the first time ever. He's bang on the money.
@JimmyScooter
@JimmyScooter 2 года назад
I still believe ManU devastation started with sacking David Moyes. DM had come from 13 successful years at Everton, and now doing a wonderful job at Westham. Not sure why ManU didn’t see that. DM is British, so culturally was the right man. Agree 100% with Graeme ManU not going to go anywhere this year, sadly of course
@tankc6474
@tankc6474 2 года назад
I'm an Everton fan moyes did a decent job for us but I wouldn't say successful he never won a trophy
@drakenkraken8455
@drakenkraken8455 2 года назад
If you want to finish 7th - David Moyes is the perfect guy. Did that at Everton, Man Utd and West Ham.
@chriser555
@chriser555 2 года назад
Graeme "I'll come back to it" Souness
@caseyfalconer7347
@caseyfalconer7347 2 года назад
Why hasn’t he blamed Paul Pogba
@jhpfdijtuiweruot
@jhpfdijtuiweruot 2 года назад
@@caseyfalconer7347 He's giving the 5imping fanboiz a break this week to recover their emotions. Another massive meltdown last week. Two weeks in a row would just be cruel
@jerrypeter5862
@jerrypeter5862 Год назад
I wonder if these three have watched this now in Feb. 2023 to see how quick they have been to judge?
@zainkhan777
@zainkhan777 Год назад
LoL how well this has aged....just shows pundits know what they know and what they peddle to the ppl with their agendas in mind.... 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@tobytaylor2026
@tobytaylor2026 2 года назад
How about ditching your, what's your take " Mr. White, its tiresome
@MrTkeddo
@MrTkeddo 2 года назад
They are now calling him Erik ten games😂
@4231-h7j
@4231-h7j 2 года назад
Dude😄
@ryanschultz4119
@ryanschultz4119 2 года назад
I've been really enjoying the chemistry between Simon & Graeme! Great addition having Mr. Souness join Talksport.
@jdizzle_01
@jdizzle_01 2 года назад
I do feel for ETH. He is learning a new league. He has to figure out how to get this team fighting for each other. I do believe he should have learned from the Brighton game about Martinez at CB. I think Martinez might have done better than Eriksen in that deeper Midfield position.
@aderonkeadebambi9855
@aderonkeadebambi9855 Год назад
Do you still think Martinez should play midfield and Eriksen benched? Y'all lack patience.
@nickpope6870
@nickpope6870 2 года назад
I don't know about Martinez, but you do not necessarily need to be tall to be a good center back. Just ask Fabio Cannavaro, Carles Puyol, and Franco Baresi.
@catgladwell5684
@catgladwell5684 2 года назад
... and the great (dancing) Nobby Stiles, God rest him. he was a tiny genius in mid field.
@Andy007400
@Andy007400 2 года назад
Wow, are you trying to compare an Ajax player to those 3 ???
@nickpope6870
@nickpope6870 2 года назад
@@Andy007400 No, I am not comparing at all; those three are absolute legends. Please read my comment above once again.
@vikingfrog7204
@vikingfrog7204 2 года назад
No but you need talent
@olufemi42
@olufemi42 2 года назад
The premier league is different!! He should be moved to the CDM!! He’d be exceptional
@chriswilliams6613
@chriswilliams6613 2 года назад
Don't turn on the manager. The players are toxic and the owners need chasing out the door.
@MrNorthWales
@MrNorthWales 2 года назад
Blaming the manager again isn't what we should be doing! These players have threw countless managers under the bus
@rohithraman6488
@rohithraman6488 2 года назад
Roy Keane called it ages ago. "The players who threw Mourinho under the bus, give it time and they will do the same to Ole. Leopards don't change their spots."
@MrNorthWales
@MrNorthWales 2 года назад
@@rohithraman6488 yeh I seen that on sky sports retro the other day 🤦🏻‍♂️ nobody seems to want to learn from these mistakes at our club
@bmf9801
@bmf9801 2 года назад
Clock must be ticking for klopp also then I guess mr sourness considering this team next week United could have more points than Liverpool don’t be shocked by that either funny ole game football is 🥴😂😂
@DominoEffect2528
@DominoEffect2528 2 года назад
Jordan rant about £400m players and that doesn't even include Ronaldo, Erickson and Rashford was amazing 👏
@iLYK2PWN
@iLYK2PWN 2 года назад
Its a stupid point. Have you noticed how non of that money ever gets put behind the scenes, its a public facade That investment is based on public image. The biggest club in the league with awful training facilities compared to other grounds. Their scouts and backroom staff are rubbish and so they cant identify the right talent. Its all for show. Non of the money goes into decisions that actually make a difference behind the scenes, theyre happy to dump the odd big name signing so it looks like theyre trying so they can continue to drain more money out. Jose Mourinho finished second and got a backup left back and Fred that year, after Jose said getting 2nd that year was one of the biggest achievements of his career and he wasnt wrong. They only ever invest when it looks like theyre about to fall off a cliff. And when the rest of the competition are investing to become the best they can be that’s obviously not going to work.
@DANNY-lw5re
@DANNY-lw5re 2 года назад
It is Ten Hag he's not the guy. Look at what Klopp did with Liverpool when they was fucked. He turned it around. Fair enough Ten hasn't had the recruitment support but it's all about coaching and he hasn't made the impact. End of.
@vummiendiweni7680
@vummiendiweni7680 2 года назад
You're wrong, the clock is ticking for those players not Ten Hag. This time we're calling out the real problem..... Many thanks to Ralf Rangnik for opening our eyes.
@Shadowespeon17
@Shadowespeon17 2 года назад
Ten Hag was not needed to see that when it was already evident last season. in his first interview, he said that this squad was capable of a top 4 finish because they finished 2nd the previous season, and now he's begging for new players. Rangnick gave him a scathing assessment of this squad but he threw that out the window, so now he has to prove he can do better with or without other new signings.
@vummiendiweni7680
@vummiendiweni7680 2 года назад
@@Shadowespeon17 That's because he was lied to. Anyone when looking at that squad on paper can believe the lie that we have a good squad, yet it's just overpaid overrated average players. That's why Murtough and Arnold had to force Ralf out of the club, because they feared he might open Ten Hag's eyes. Ten Hag is a good manager, and given time he will make us better, but that will take about 2 to 3 years. And the only players he can improve are the junior players, not the likes of McTominay. And don't believe the media lies that Ten Hag rejected Rangnik's assessment. The same media were after Rangnik when he was in charge, trying to put pressure on him.
@pjduff7577
@pjduff7577 2 года назад
"Im going to bully them "🤣🤣🤣
@1Jameskelly
@1Jameskelly 2 года назад
My wife ran off with the milkman yesterday and I blame the glazers 😂😢
@haatpraat2993
@haatpraat2993 2 года назад
I was in a Dutch pub a few months ago watching Ajax v Benfica. During half time I spoke with Ajax fans about Ten Hag and his prospects as a Man Utd coach. All of them said he did not have the personality to be a Man Utd manager. Ten Hag is to Man Utd what Unai Emery was to Arsenal - A very good manager in the wrong job. Ten Hag will be sacked by Christmas.
@DiReal_Donclassy
@DiReal_Donclassy 2 года назад
I don't think they've hit the bottom already with Brentford. Fulham, Nottingham and Bournemouth are better than United at present. The worst may not have come yet, let's wait. Liverpool next wk. They need more than extra miles at training to curtail Liverpool's goals. What a shame
@Andre-hm5vo
@Andre-hm5vo 2 года назад
Liverpool have got to completely destroy Man United next Monday I'm talking double figures here lol
@hartshaped
@hartshaped 2 года назад
The way I see it is the media coverage is expecting more out of the side than the squad warrants and a lot of that is down to history and the club’s stature. The reality is it’s a bang average team just about competitive enough in actual player quality (not performance) to something you’d expect of a top 8 teams these days. There’s no use holding a funeral after every defeat, this is who United are now, a decade of this shows it’s a form not a blip, Liverpool went through it, so have Arsenal and even though Spurs haven’t won the league they’ve at least started to consistently push the top 4. I know it’s not what fans will want to here but what the team needs now isn’t pinning hopes one a few statement signings to turn the club around it’s an incremental rebuild over a few years and acceptance of “this is where we are now”, the failure comes from sky high expectations that a few top players will turn a team that have barely had a sniff of experience of success into title challengers overnight. Personally speaking I don’t think United will be able to overcome this expectancy to have to turn things around instantly just because the fan base and media look back on their former glory and point to the size of the club as markers of where they should be now, I can’t ever see any manager being kept on long enough to rebuild, the moment they progress the next season it has to be the league a little or it’s a failure.
@Пера-т9с
@Пера-т9с 2 года назад
I agree as a Arsenal fan that had to watch Arsenal rebuild which is almost done, still have 3 or 4 players needing to go out. We tried for a short period to do what Utd was doing for a decade to throw money at expensive players to come at a club and hopefully change the situation. The board quickly realised that is not gonna work, but for Utd i think is even more difficult as they are the poster boys of the Premier league. And are always the main focus when something goes wrong for them example Chelsea and Spurs an epic showdown between managers and they are still talking Utd, Arsenal pumped Lester, City etc. Utd needs stability to keep the manager to actually try to implement the philosophy and discipline into the team. If not they can throw the youngsters who will actually fight for the badge. The transfer window is slowly coming to a end i don't see how they will actually significantly improve the squad from what they already have. Sacking managers just repeats the cycle with the same players.
@ronalddacres9646
@ronalddacres9646 2 года назад
The Manager Will Walk After 10 Games...
@Redman680
@Redman680 2 года назад
Simon thinks they hit "bottom" against Brentford. I think Liverpool might just show them that "bottom" has a basement. 😂😂
@ryanhayes9290
@ryanhayes9290 2 года назад
Underrated comment 😂😂😂
@reddevil70
@reddevil70 2 года назад
Man Utd are & always will be a bigger club than the Bindippers !!!
@Nathan-yv2rg
@Nathan-yv2rg 2 года назад
They won't 'bottom' until the Glazers are gone
@Josh-ss9zb
@Josh-ss9zb 2 года назад
Imo losing 10-0 to Liverpool wouldn't be as bad as the Brentford because all due respect to them, Brentford in no world should be thrashing man utd, but current Liverpool should destroy United 100 times out of 100
@Andre-hm5vo
@Andre-hm5vo 2 года назад
Liverpool have got to completely destroy Manchester United next Monday I'm talking double figures lol
@robotstobor3388
@robotstobor3388 2 года назад
good panel, SJ, JW and GS, excellent analysis. I can only imagine that United will make a good Netflix special.
@HankRearden84
@HankRearden84 2 года назад
Personally I think ten Hag is WAY over his head. I just dont think he has the charisma nor the chops needed to steer the ship of the worlds biggest, most dysfunctional football club.
@andyhulme2274
@andyhulme2274 2 года назад
Uninspiring android
@MikeMUFC91
@MikeMUFC91 Год назад
Just coming back to check in on Graeme... 🤣🤣😂😂 Wrong, AGAIN.
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