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An interview with Wyatt Gilmore, owner of Grant Stone. I encourage you to skip around to time stamped topics noted below.
0:00 - It smells like leather
0:51 - Wyatt's favorite shoes and suggestions.
2:35 - Should all shoe bottom outsoles be leather?
4:44 - Are shoe trees worth using?
7:30 - Plain toe shoe. The most underrated shoe. I was incorrectly calling this a whole cut. It is not a true whole cut.
8:30 - Dirty Buck shoe in CF Stead tan suede. A classic, versatile suede shoe from the 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s brought back by Grant Stone.
9:40 - Chromexcel polishing method using shoe cream and carnauba wax.
11:31 - Cap Toe Boot. Crimson Horween Chromexcel.
13:38 - Modern style clashing of casual with formal styles. Are there rules? (sorry, Wyatts mic cut out in this)
15:50 - Diesel Boot. Badalassi leather. Great for patina.
19:50 - Edward Boot in Honey Glazed Horween shell cordovan (aka natural shell cordovan).
24:39 - Why is Grant Stone made in China?
34:50 - What makes a great suede? Travel Penny Loafer in CF Stead Midnight Suede.
37:23 - Butyl Leather Sole from Keystone Leather in Pennsylvania.
40:30 - Grant stone lasts are wider and more broad.
43:00 - Do Americans have fat feet? Footwear brands make different lasts for different markets.
44:03 - Sizing guide. You are probably ordering shoes too narrow.
45:25 - History of Grant Stone. Alden origins.
51:17 - Grant Stone is warehoused in Michigan. Living in Michigan or living in China?
54:04 - Coronavirus. Of course we had to include this. Does it affect Grant Stone?
56:12 - Round Barn Brewery.
56:32 - Questions from RU-vid. When are you restocking shell boots?
57:07 - Questions from RU-vid. Any plans to make a dressy shell boot?
57:32 - Upcoming Grant Stone products.
59:25 - Comparing shell cordovan Fat Herbies.
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@DalesLeatherworks 4 года назад

I am so stoked for this interview!!! I have 9 pairs of Grantstone so far with 3 currently on the way and I 100% vouch for their quality, COMFORT, and aesthetic 👍👍👍

@JorgeDLeon-oo3kf 4 года назад

Damn you rich bastard! Lol nah just jocking bro. The jok is that I can't afford them.. so sad :(.. be well!

@roguedobie 2 года назад

@aerosurferlv Dale looks back to this post in 2022....9 pairs, HA!

@DalesLeatherworks 2 года назад

@@roguedobie 😂😂😂😂 so true!!!

@frankrizzo7185 3 года назад

Grant Stone are made with the good stuff. I don’t mind being made in China or Mexico or Indonesia if the quality is there.

@davidadams8027 2 года назад

It’s ok if your happy supporting cheap labour and poor working conditions in china just so you can have a cheaper boot and fat cats can be fatter

@suxmidic9141 Год назад

Agreed. Quality over geography. I just now stumbled across this interview after getting a pair of Grant Stone forest kudu captoes for Christmas. They are fabulous.

@loupblanc007 4 года назад

Thank you for the fantastic video and answering my questions. I really appreciate it and I really enjoy this kind of content. I love the hearing the backstory and the product detail. Thank you again for the great video and hard work.

@peterong1190 Месяц назад

I appreciate Wyatt Gilmore's honesty in this interview. The interviewer is pitching softballs to hang on to and ride a narrative... and Wyatt stays to the unvarnished truth: Look it's a business. We're doing what we can given the materials we have. He showed no BS about some company mission or some other nonsense narrative. Wyatt is no politician, he's just an honest and pragmatic business man. Refreshing.

@gress12000 Год назад

I just talked to Wyatt on the phone. He is such a great guy very humble and you can tell he has a passion for what he’s doing.

@brgulker 4 года назад

Two of my favorite companies!

@scottlalonde2878 Год назад

Great interview, thank you.

@CrispyFrenFry 3 года назад

This is such a wonderful interview. I really appreciate the conversation around dispelling negative stereo types associated with Chinese products. By clarifying that poor product quality stem from prioritizing price point at the expense of high quality raw materials we see here origin of production isnt the issue. The issue are companies who refuse to invest in their own products in order to sell something unders a certain price point to guarantee maximum profits.

@AshlandLeather 3 года назад

Great comment here. Before this interview I spent several hours reading feedback on Grant Stone and the ONLY negative comment was "made in China". It was the most important question that I had to ask Wyatt and I think his response was perfect "you can make a bad product or you can make a good one". After wearing the Diesel boots in Chromexcel for 6 months now I can affirm that these are very well made boots. They are very comfortable, look great, and I wouldn't be surprised if they lasted me for a few re-soles. The Diesel boots have quickly become one of my top 3 pairs of boots. -Phil

@corporalpunish6089 2 года назад

@@AshlandLeather Not getting your approach here at all. You are an example of a firm building a quality product in America and supporting the American worker, and I appreciate you for that, and own your products. Why sing the praises of a company that has to go to China to do the same? The question isnt about their quality, it is about their allegiance to the American worker. Why not focus on fellow American companies like Whites, Nick's, Truman, Alden, Parkhurst, AE, etc.... ?

@AshlandLeather 2 года назад

@@corporalpunish6089 You make good points. Of the brands you've listed I've only promoted Alden to a significant degree. I don't own some of the other brands but I need to change that!

@johnsambo9379 Год назад

@@corporalpunish6089 You must not own any electronics. The question is about quality.

@corporalpunish6089 Год назад

@@johnsambo9379 I do own electronics and I lean heavily into manufacturers like Samsung. Even Apple has started moving their new production to India. My first preference is US made but if that is not available I will go to other places that arent China. The way I found Ashland was by Googling American made leather wallets when I realized that the "Italian" brand i had been buying was now made in China. Do i need to spend $300 on an Ashland wallet to get quality? NO. Does it make me feel better to know i am supporting people like Phil, Matt, and their workers? YES. What I am saying John, is that there are places like China that want to see you and your way of life beaten. Is that where you want your money to go? Or would you rather it go to your neighbors?

@junyigoh1416 4 года назад

Superb content! Love it

@andyyou3275 8 месяцев назад

Aware that this video is 3 years old, saw this after listening to a couple of your FG podcasts. Great interview Phil, covered a lot of depth. I had been wondering about the GS lasts being wider through the midfoot/arch area and hadnt seen this question covered before

@Racerchicken21 4 года назад

Phil glad you got to check out some badalassi carlo! I mentioned in a previous live video that I just ordered an aero jacket in a russet badalassi, excited to get it in and see the patina. To be honest, I think a English tan Dublin would look amazing in a jacket, but it seems like Essex and Dublin is seldom used for jackets.

@drzaius844 2 года назад

I have the blue suede loafer, such a comfortable and well made shoe, my go to for trips to the grocery store, dog walks, sockless at the beach. I have a Carmina pair just like those plain toe bluchers (but in Armagnac shell) it’s a great style as well, super versatile, great everyday shoe and built like a tank. If I couldn’t afford the Carminas I’d get these in a heartbeat.

@stephenathon 4 года назад

Watching this while polishing my Grant Stone’s. Love it!

@Ez.bake_evan 4 года назад

Great video man, and pretty cool of Wyatt to do this. At a perfect time for me as well, as I was still deciding between Grant Stone, White's, and Oak Street for my next pair.

@AshlandLeather 4 года назад

You really can't go wrong with any of those brands, in my opinion. I think the biggest thing is FIT. Try em each out and see what fits best?

@whitemakesright2177 4 года назад

Compromise - buy one of each 😂

@SSS-mp8th 4 года назад

EEE and high instep American here keep making the EEE stuff Wyatt. I'd really really like to see a brogue boot guys.

@jeremaester1299 3 года назад

@awos6559 4 года назад

I like the shape the space it seems to provide for the toes! I hope I’ll get one of these, a plain toe boot or low top with a leather sole!

@johnparkerzabala 4 года назад

Welcome back

@AshlandLeather 4 года назад

Thanks, John. Great to see you!

@Will-yp6ny Год назад

Great interview. I purchased one pair of Grand Stones about a month ago and I’m already on my 4th pair. Excellent product and customer service. I’ve actually started selling some of my Red Wings to replace them with Grand Stones.

@iHustleLXXXI Год назад

I also recently purchased my first pair of GS. I started with Thursday Captains, 2 of them and a pair of their Loggers in cacao. Then I found out about GS and I wished I had not purchased any Thursday boots so I can get more GS boots. I have 3 pairs of GS’s now. 2 Diesel’s and 1 Ottawa. I bought all 3 in 2023. I love the way their boots are constructed and o never thought I would like plain toed boots but I love both my Diesel’s. My favorite is the Ottawa because it’s like the Alden Tankers. I got the Ottawa’s first, the Dune cxl Diesel’s second, and the black cxl Diesel’s with the leather sole 3rd. I was trying to decide between the black cxl Diesel’s or Ottawa’s but I flipped a coin and it landed on the diesel’s.

@Will-yp6ny Год назад

@@iHustleLXXXI I really like the Diesel boot but my favorite GS is the Brass Boot and the fit is nice & roomy. The Diesel is my 2nd and Chelsey 3rd (weird fit but comfortable) I’m up to 10 GS pairs now in 6 months. I have to stop buying boots until next year 😂

@sithil 9 месяцев назад

High Instep and wide foot...DING DING DING! Just ordered my first pair of Grant Stone Brass Boots in EEE last night, can't wait for them to come in next week.

@barrettbryan8905 4 года назад

I feel like we have the same exact taste and interests when it comes to this stuff! I have wanted to figure out how to go about making some bispoke type shoes or boots since i started working with leather. That's going to be my next big take on! Those shoes look beautiful and very well made! Thanks for doing the video!

@wt460 4 года назад

I do hate it that the boots are made in China, but I own a pair of Grant Stone Boots and they are simply amazing! I really struggled when I hit the “Submit Order” but I’m so glad I did. The leather is perfect, the fit is terrific, the sole is absolutely rock solid, and the price was truly incredible... Before you complain about Grant Stone’s you really need to buy a pair and you too will be convinced; they are really fantastic boots!!! I love them...

@Racerchicken21 4 года назад

Nothing wrong with made in China if it's a quality product, there are amazing audio companies, knife companies, etc that are coming out of China these days. Buy the product/company, not the country, glad you did.

@wt460 4 года назад

Jedy617 Clearly there is nothing wrong with China, and these boots are an excellent example of a high quality product. That said, I would like to keep you, me and everyone else employed in America and therefore I try to support “Made in the USA” wherever possible.

@Racerchicken21 4 года назад

@@wt460 but if people in the US don't want to get into bootmaking/ the trades in general, then what can you do? I don't mind supporting a Chinese worker and his family anyway, we're all human and need to eat. If Alden has their boots at the same price as Grant Stone count me in (coming from the owner of a used pair of Alden shell boots).

@wt460 4 года назад

Jedy617 Fair point, but there is no way to have an equal price as both labor and costs levied by the Government make it virtually impossible to have a similar price. That said, I own a pair of Grant Stone’s and I love them. I also own about 10 pair of Alden’s that I acquired over a 20 year period, and I find the quality to be a bit better but it was initially difficult to buy the much more expensive cost. That said, if we want to have manufacturing continue in the USA, we need to pay a little (or in this case a significant amount) more. Good thing we both have something to choose from and as I said, I really love both the GS’s and the Alden’s. If you get a pair of shell cordovan I would absolutely buy only from Alden’s, as I can attest to having a pair last for nearly forty years.

@Cemmos 4 года назад

A big part of the reason why things like boot making is leaving the country is due to culture/tradition. If you're surrounded by people that are crafting things, there's a better chance that children of those artisans will do or want to do the same thing. When you start outsourcing, traditions change. A kid growing up in a military family will probably want to do something along those lines, not make shoes, for example, since they're far removed from that lifestyle. It's not necessarily that people don't want to do these things, it's because people are rarely exposed to them and many times don't even think of them as options. No passion was created for it, because that passion lies elsewhere. Something else was nurtured into people. Outsourcing and the shutting down of factories is more of the cause of lack of interest, not necessarily that lack of interest caused shutting down of factories. But that's what happens when workers here require $16+ an hour vs in China at $3 an hour. Trade skills are highly important to the economy of a country, so seeing that many trades are leaving the country is a little sad. It's part of the reason why I own many boots, all of which are made in the US. Although, with that said, I am not against buying items from other countries (all of my expensive sneakers are made elsewhere, many electronics, etc). Sometimes you can't help it, and sometimes you can't afford it. Grant Stone boots look like they are amazing quality, and may likely be the only pair of boots that I buy that aren't US-made. At least most of the parts to construct the boots are, so that's a plus.

@triktrak_1451 Год назад

Wow. Great talk.

@SomberP 3 года назад

Shoot that’s out of my price range right now but I really want to buy a pair of their boots just because this guy seems so genuine

@AshlandLeather 3 года назад

Wyatt is legit

@jesscliffe7160 4 года назад

Great interview! I have some Grant Stones are they are simply superb.

@johnparkerzabala 4 года назад

Very interesting as in super thanks.

@AshlandLeather 4 года назад

My pleasure. I love this stuff.

@binray6457 2 года назад

Amoy ! the old name of Xiamen. Rich history. just got my first pair of Grand stone today, a Diesel Storm Suede. very very nice!

@davidhunternyc1 Год назад

I love this candid interview. So honest and unrehearsed. What guy is going to take off their boots, air them out for 20 minutes, and then put in shoe trees? Not happening.

@AshlandLeather Год назад

I did a follow up interview with them recently on the Full Grain Podcast ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rc_FNKoT974.html

@crucify40 5 месяцев назад

Based on this interview I'm doing that now. I don't put a clock on it, but I wait awhile now before I insert shoe trees.

@holdthatblaow 4 года назад

You two play off each other perfectly. I would love a regular podcast/videocast of you two together talking about leather and anything else related. Easily Ashalnd's best collaboration video.

@AshlandLeather 4 года назад

Nick Horween and I had a notion of a podcast. I just need to put in the work for that

@frankrizzo7185 3 года назад

I have try a pair of Grant Stones. Btw, just use shoe trees! Or cycle one pair for the shoes you wore that day.

@baberoot1998 Год назад

Grant Stone makes a beautiful "American style" shoe. Taking their cue from the British; Grant Stone...does a good job. Very well made. I like them. Unfortunately...they have the reputation for being considered, "old man shoes". Fortunately, shoe companies like Grant Stone...are bringing this style back. Which is a good thing. I think the style is classic and gives the wearer a sense of "class". The old styles are coming back. That style never really left Britian. The Italian, Spanish, and Portuguese style shoes are very sleek and also nice looking. But there is something "sturdy", about an American and British style shoe. It is a shame that many men today in America just don't care. Looking and dressing like a man...seems to be outdated. With brands like Grant Stone though...maybe that will change. Men in America, do not really realize that the ladies, see what men are wearing...and they totally love the man who dresses like a man should. I hate to say it...but most men in America...are clueless. I say to American men...."Hey! The ladies do notice how you look and dress!" So...wear your tank top, loose basketball shorts, with a Nike Monarch, or flip-flops if you want...but it could be a deal breaker for a young lady you have your eye on.

@freddyfox5002 11 месяцев назад

It's near impossible to dress like this when you are working in the field. Even having a wardrobe like this is very expensive for holidays/parties/family gatherings.

@alexanderdylanthomas1891 Год назад

Phil, buy one good pair of trees and rotate them through your shoes. 24 hours does most of the work to prevent deep permanent creases. Your shoes will thank you!

@freddyfox5002 11 месяцев назад

That sounds like a good idea. Does the shoes/boots take damage if you leave the shoe trees in permanently?

@johnwen8810 4 года назад

i am seriously considering the veg tan diesel...all my other boots are chromexcel...but just two questions...is the tongue gusseted at all? and roughly how thick is the leather?

@AshlandLeather 4 года назад

Hey, John! In today's video I responded to your question on the Diesel boot gusset and thickness: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VaMZKXHLxUA.html

@Jimmymcnulty4 6 месяцев назад

In regards to grant stone; Any reservation of a Chinese made product? Does this matter if there area mitusa options?

@trieunguyen5897 3 года назад

I love value in boots, got 5 pairs of Thursday and 3 pairs of GS.

@SilverRiMiX 2 года назад

Thursday + GS is the way to go.

@roybatty- 2 года назад

Then you have 8 pairs of mediocre boots!

@AMogus-jr6qk 2 года назад

@@roybatty- you can't compare GS to Thursday lol. And no, GS is better in terms of quality control than for example Alden

@johnparkerzabala 4 года назад

Wow Havana brown!!!

@whereRbearsTeeth 3 месяца назад

Just saw a cobbler who did a video of a GS diesel boot resole. He showed that the boot has paper/synthetic material between the insole and the cork. Very disappointing. I was under the impression that GS didn’t use synthetic materials in their construction.

@FD-dh2fu 3 года назад

How does the last fit on the diesel? Compared to a Alden Bari last as an example? What is the return policy and where is the Diesel show made? Leather bottom is great as you can always add a thin lug rubber sole etc...

@AshlandLeather 3 года назад

Here is a reply from Wyatt: "The Diesel is on the Leo last. The Leo fits full, similar to the Barrie. Most customers wear the same size in these lasts. Grant Stone has free returns and exchanges in the US. All of Grant Stone footwear is made in our Xiamen China factory."

@binray6457 2 года назад

Amoy ! the old name of Xiamen. just got my first pair of Grand stone today, a Diesel Storm Suede. very nice!

@JonathanGrandt 2 года назад

Leather soles are nice and all but the perfect sole in my opinion is the Vibram low profile commando half sole, Vibram 1253.

@AshlandLeather 2 года назад

I've gotta try that. I haven't worn more than one pair of shoes with a half sole

@juantanadinata6816 4 года назад

Anyone know where the jacket that Wyatt wears from?

@quotidiantools479 4 года назад

Juan Tanadinata Spier & Mackay 👍

@gaylongraham077 4 года назад

Two pairs in and just ordered a 3rd, I can confirm the QC and packaging is in the $700+ range. Don't start this journey if you're not a strong budget person - you'll find a reason after you get your first pair in hand.

@CSK3RMIT 2 года назад

This comment really hit me. I have the addiction.

@johnparkerzabala 4 года назад

Plastic trees or newspapers?

@jesselopez904 3 года назад

Real talk my brothers. I have one only one pair of leather soled boots. Why is that you say... well when you slip and slide and fall on your ass a few times you'll understand. My buddies dad slipped and broke his hip. Surgery snd recovery were bad enough until he got the medical bills!!😂🤣😅 This guy is crazy. Imagine having racing slicks for tires. Fun. No thanks. Car tires must have traction and so must your shoes! Peace

@wt460 4 года назад

I really want to always support American manufacturing, period. But, the price difference is so dramatic and the quality of these shoes is so high, and the price is so reasonable it is almost impossible not to buy these shoes. I have two pairs of boots and I absolutely love both pairs. I just love the Grant Stone products and I love the story behind it as well. An incredible product with each boot really thought out really well. You simply have to buy a pair!

@whitemakesright2177 4 года назад

Most of the components are American, and the owners are American, so it's not quite as bad as buying from a fully Chinese company. You're still supporting American tanneries, etc. making the components.

@wt460 4 года назад

White Makes Right True, and good point! WT

@Terrigan_Reina 4 года назад

Pretty much just another boot company in this price range. I checked out my cousin's pair quite extensively (I know it is different if I actually wear it for my daily life), nothing outstanding (or inferior) when compare to its competitor in the same (and/or slightly less) price range. Although I am not wow'ed by their boot, it is good to see more player in this price range!

@AshlandLeather 4 года назад

Good comment. What other brands in this price range do you suggest? I'm always interested in more options

@Smokey66s 3 года назад

Are all Grant Stone shoes and boots made in China?

@AshlandLeather 3 года назад

That's correct. They are all made in China

@ismaelcalderon2542 5 месяцев назад

Shoe trees ruin my shoes. The outer layer of the leather started cracking.

@johnwen8810 4 года назад

great video....does wyatt speak chinese?

@AshlandLeather 4 года назад

Wyatt said he does speak Chinese but its not perfect

@pastor1988 7 месяцев назад

Nice video. If you are going to interview someone let them speak and stop interrupting them mid answer. Otherwise very informative.

@idamelin 4 года назад

Good video but bad camera positioning. Annoying not to see the subject of your discussion.

@AshlandLeather 4 года назад

Good feedback here. I appreciate it.

@anthonyrago62 4 года назад

I would have loved to see the actual boots more as well.

@AshlandLeather 4 года назад

@@anthonyrago62 I super appreciate this feedback. Thanks!

@williemurphy2421 3 года назад

Nike makes shoes in China Thailand Pakistan Guatemala Mexico Guadalajara or Guatemala one of these.

@SM-xt5gl 2 года назад

Levi’s made in Mexico, Vietnam . If you look at the clothing you wear and check the label of origin , likely most not made in N. America .

@MetalsForBrunch 4 года назад

People would just like to see these shoes made in USA to support Americans. Quality and materials look awesome and I would give grantstone a shot if on sale.

@Racerchicken21 4 года назад

Check out Alden then. Problem is they are $5-600. People can have their choice, buy American made for a lot more, or buy Chinese made (done well) with American materials, with American QC and servicing at half price.

@MetalsForBrunch 4 года назад

@@Racerchicken21 Alden is expensive. I'll stick with parkhurst and Mark Albert's better price than grantstone and aldens.

@thejuiceloosener150 4 года назад

@@MetalsForBrunch just not better quality (coming from someone who has owned 3 of those 4).

@MetalsForBrunch 4 года назад

@@thejuiceloosener150 well if grant stone brings down the price to $250 ill give it a try.

@benjaminkenobi21 4 года назад

Right now is the time for you then, their prices are slashed because of COVID-19

@stevemendez3535 Год назад

I am totally blind. I have no vision whatsoever other vendors, such as Polo, Fossil, Levi, and Nike have a disability lien. I can call this number and let them know that I am totally blind, and would like to find an item to purchase or even just discuss what may be available The customer service representative within ask me what it is that I want to look for whether if it’s shoes, a jacket or anything and then they will start to go through the items I will give them an idea of what colors I’m looking for or what styles then they will go over them for me is this something that your customer service will be able to do or do you even have this type of customer service here in Texas? We have something with what is called American disability act. It’s a federal law. This allows me to remain independent and stylish at the same time, thank you God bless

@njcenac 3 года назад

Wear the shoe trees!

@mannygee005 3 года назад

what a bad question asker. What's the point of asking questions when you're not listening to the answers, ignoring the answers, interjecting your own answers. Sample excerpt "tell me your philosophy" but without waiting for an answer he goes on to explain what he thinks is the philosophy, then interrupts several times, finally summarizing without using any information that was given. I'm going to buy some Grant Stone boots now. Let me summarize, manufacturing is very good in China but if you ask them to make crap for you then they'll give you what you asked for. The manufacturing isn't the issue, it's the companies that want inexpensive low quality products. I believe this is the message but the interviewer instead promotes the opposite picture.

@AshlandLeather 3 года назад

Fair criticism. I could definitely be an interviewer. To note here on why I asked that question: I researched a lot about Grant Stone before this interview. The only criticism that I could find was that they are made in China. I felt that it would be appropriate to ask the question in the way that general consensus online would want to ask it. I asked Wyatt about this point blank and I think he answered the question well. The shoes are well made. The quality stands on its own. I now own a couple pair of Grant Stone that I bought with my own money -- not a gift. They stand up with my favorite boots and shoes and I think that the Diesel boot is perhaps my most comfortable pair. I appreciate the feedback. I need to listen more than speak.

@ronaldreagan501 2 года назад

@@AshlandLeather What an awesome response. I am now a subscriber

@AshlandLeather 2 года назад

@@ronaldreagan501 Thank you, Mr. President!

@frankgonzalez3822 Год назад

I understand outsourcing. China does not have respect for copyright laws. Grant can never leave China. If they do, china will continue to produce copies.

@CeciDJing 2 года назад

You should really learn not to interrupt all the time.

@AshlandLeather 2 года назад

Appreciate the feedback

@CeciDJing 2 года назад

@@AshlandLeather I really don't mean it in a mean way, but if you listen to yourself you will hear that you rearly let this man complete his sentences. That can be really frustrating for people. You have a lot of good content, and the channel is amazing, but take the criticism to consideration.

@AshlandLeather 2 года назад

@@CeciDJing Hey, Ceci - I sincerely appreciate the feedback. I'm not much of an interviewer or host and the feedback helps a ton.

@hydroaegis6658 3 года назад

I think the moral question is do you want to do business, and thus give money/support, to any regime that's overtly hostile to the country you're from and is an oppressive regime with no regard for human rights. With that said I do own a few pairs of Grant Stones (price per quality is hard to deny), but this elephant in the room leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

@AshlandLeather 3 года назад

This has me conflicted as well

@yl6431 2 года назад

Why not check your iPhone and say the same thing? Lol

@JayceBroda 2 года назад

@@yl6431 exactly

@johnsambo9379 Год назад

So, you don't own any electronics? Lol

@roybatty- 2 года назад

Replace the Dainite sole from an Allen Edmonds and you can sell them for cheaper than Grant Stone. There is no magic here. Grant Stone is saving money by offering imitation components. Stick a Dainite sole on there and sell them for $360 and put your money where your mouth is.

@AMogus-jr6qk 2 года назад

Dainite soles aren't even better lol. All marketing

@MrFrescocotone Год назад

Made in China crap and even expensive??? Woth so many great American and European boots!!! Noooo freaking way 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

@hansolo3433 3 года назад

Decent shoe. Nothing special. Considering where it’s made, they should be half the price.

@AshlandLeather 3 года назад

The China thing is a problem. I don't like that aspect, personally. However, a lot of people are comparing the quality of these shoes to be as good or better as competitive brands that sell for almost double the price of Grant Stone

@Doc.Holiday Год назад

Is this satire???

@delopez1966 3 года назад

Made in China...sorry, I cannot and will not bring myself to support "made in China" products when I could just as easily support American made products and American workers. Just my personal preference and my choice. Yes, it is personal.

@johnsambo9379 Год назад

You don't own any electronics? Lol

@johnhoulihan5846 Год назад

I understand your position but he clearly lists all the USA made components at the start of the video. You are supporting US workers and factories when you buy these shoes.

@iHustleLXXXI Год назад

Yes. It is personal. I was also in your shoes a year ago. My reason is very uncommon. I was born in Taiwan and I came to the USA when I was 7yo. From the age of 7 and when I knew what was going on in the world, China has been trying to take over Taiwan and kill Taiwanese people. That’s the reason why I didn’t want to support China in any way but I have realized that almost everything we own is MIC. If you carry a smartphone, it’s highly likely that you’re supporting China because they make everything. Especially if you own an iPhone. China makes everything and I try not to buy MIC things but it’s such a PITA. You’re right that it’s a personal decision and it’s your money so you decide where you spend it however, the only person you’re hurting is yourself. I consider USA as MY COUNTRY and I’ll go fight in a war for USA since I’m a citizen since I was 18yo. GS makes great shoes/boots and there’s a reason that you are even watching this video on GS boots. You are thinking of buying GS and I think your should because they make great boots/shoes. Most of their products have parts that are mitusa but are only put together in China. It’s a small part of the boot making process. I have been wanting the Alden Tankers for over a year and the only company that makes a NST that looks great is GS. I bought a pair of Ottawa boots in Crimson CXL and it’s one of the best boots I have. They also have awesome customer service. Their boots are super well made, great materials, and great QC. Give them a shot and I bet it’ll change your mind. After all, you’re here for a reason. If you’re super set on NOT buying MIC products then you wouldn’t even been here watching this video.

@talljohn5350 Год назад

I generally agree but it’s not an absolute rule for me. I’m ok occasionally buying something not American made as long as the quality is there

@solidstream13 Год назад

Most stuff we have is made in China. Including the iPhones many people are watching this video on and almost every athletic shoe. If you refuse to wear made in China shoes all your shoes would be at least $400 and only made of leather

@AaronsRandomLife 4 года назад

It breaks my heart to see that their shoes are made in china. There is 100% no good reason to make shoes in china, except that it increases profits. Specially when you're making shoes that are over $300 a pair. I will absolutely NEVER do business with grant stone. As HORWEEN I'd even be afraid to ship my leather to a country like china, where they probably have scientist trying to copy their tanning recipes so they can undercut horween and put them out of business. I will buy American made products before chinese made profiteering 100% of the time. I am sorry Phil, but i didn't even finish the video, but I just hate profiteers trying to masquerade as wholesome people. at $100 a pair, yes, you have to make them in china to even be able to sell them at all. BUT, at well over $300 a pair, the only reason to make them in china is to INCREASE THE PROFIT.

@Racerchicken21 4 года назад

This is just racism. Some amazing products are made in China, and what, you are discounting them because it's not from your own country? Hifiman is a Chinese company, they make amazing headphones that cost upwards of $5000. In fact, a lot of amazing Chinese audio companies out there. Reate and WE knives, some of the best production knives in the world, proudly Chinese. So in regards to: " There is 100% no good reason to make shoes in china, except that it increases profits. Specially when you're making shoes that are over $300 a pair." Yes there is a good reason. Have you seen what Aldens cost?? Many of their oxfords and PTBs are $5-$600, and you are out here saying OMG THE ONLY REASON THEY ARE MADE IN CHINA IS TO INCREASE THE PROFIT!111!!! Get real dude. And again, racism with "scientists trying to copy their tanning". First, the leather is going straight to Grant Stone. Second, Horween has been in business for over a hundred years, and you think if a random Chinese pullup leather came out they would go out of business? Third, do you honestly think the thousands of tanneries around the world don't sample each others leathers to compare their own products? I mean hell, Phil had a video on here where he brought competitors shells from the tannery to compare. GM took apart a Ferrari when making their C8 corvette. That's not even considering the fact that you can't just scientifically analyze something like leather and remake it anyway, and then who would buy from a random Chinese tannery with no reputation? Again, just crazy rambling due to racism. There are a lot of things wrong with China to be fair, but making these shoes is not one of them.

@stephenathon 4 года назад

Did you watch the video? There would be no Grant Stone if they weren’t made in China. Wyatt has connections to these tanneries through his relationship with the factory. They are passing on the savings to the customer, so you are buying a boot that would sell for $500-600 if made in America. I would rather pay $300-400 personally. Their products are amazing, I have four pairs.

@AshlandLeather 4 года назад

I'm really enjoying reading this discussion.

@AaronsRandomLife 4 года назад

It’s funny. Allen Edmonds makes shoes for $300-500 street price that are manufactured in America. Comparing my insistence on American manufacture to racism is the greatest stretch and really good way for you to make this no longer a debate. I don’t care where you’re from. I don’t care what country you live in. I care that my neighbor has a job. I care that my neighbor, who used to make shoes in America, no longer can, because the labor and government subsidized shipping in China makes it cheaper to ship the materials half way around the world. Supporting Chinese manufacture is racist on a systemic level. The communist government in China keeps wages low and suppresses the Chinese people’s access to the World Wide Web. The very thing that we are using to have this discussion, Chines people aren’t allowed to have. I feel that I want the person who is making my shoes to make a fair living. It’s exactly the reason I buy a pair of $300+ shoes in the first place. If I buy shoes that were made right here in America, I can assure that the person who made them has health insurance, paid vacation leave, family medical leave act benefits to take care of their family, bereavement pay, maternity leave, AND A FAIR WAGE tacked right on top of that. I do not want to support a company who uses a labor force paid measly inhumane wages that are forced to live in a closed society without access to the world of information. Period.

@AaronsRandomLife 4 года назад

As far as I’m concerned given the choice between a $400-600 pair of shoes from Allen Edmonds, a $300-$600 pair of Chippewa American made or Redwing American boots, and a $300-$600 pair of shoes or boots made from the same materials but produced in China, I will always chose the boots made by Americans. That way I know I am always supporting people who are given the same benefits as I am. The very reason that Redwing and Chippewa had to start making boots in China to compete on price, reinforces my point here. It’s perfectly profitable to make a pair of shoes or boots in America, where we have OSHA, and health insurance, and people get paid a fair wage. BUT, in order to make a boot or shoe that is profitable at a price point of $200, you must use a labor force that works without any benefits or even a fair wage......China.