I'm just happy that there are options in the market which don't boil down to 'which sec item are you willing to give up', actual differences between bikes at each price point. But I'd have the giant - as I've never had an issue with comfort or grip with my current machine.
Unfortunately, the reviewer has misnamed the Giant bike. The bike that was reviewed is the Giant Revolt Advanced Pro 0, which costs £4,999/ $6400, not the stated £4,999/$4,400. By contrast to the bike in this review, the Giant Advanced 0 (not Pro 0) has mechanical (not electronic) GRX shifting, a slightly heavier carbon layup in the fork, an alloy handlebar (Pro has carbon) and a slightly lower grade (but still carbon) wheelset compared to the Giant Advanced Pro 0. Hope this clears up some confusion for those watching the otherwise very good review.
That BMC front "headshock" is an excellent idea. Cannondale created it over 25 years ago, and is a great application for gravel bikes today. I'd be very interested in trying out the BMC, Cannondales fork locked out.
My first gravel bike had front suspension, then I got a newer rigid one and couldn’t believe how terrible the ride was on rough surfaces. I put a redshift suspension stem on it and now it’s way better. And faster! Front suspension is crucial for gravel.
I'll take full-sus every time. My Gravel bike is a 100/100mm travel full-sus XC mountain bike with fast rolling 700x43 Gravel tires. Very fast on pavement and gravel while still being capable on singletrack.
@@DilbertMuc I set up my bike with a little more air pressure, compression, and rebound than I would for just singletrack. This makes it pedal more efficiently.
@@marksandoval5361 Yes. I watched Lael Wilcox on the Dirty Kanza race. Her first race bike was an Epic fully with drop bars and she won easily. Following year she was on a Pinarello Grevil and did not win anything. They always say that lower air pressure gives more comfort and is faster. Yes. But Schwalbe said the same with their balloon tires. I tested them: Comfy? Yes. Faster? No Way!!
I'm 💯 behind full suspension on nearly all bikes, albeit appropriate travel, sure F1 cars are full sus and they're pretty quick so I've been told, suspension = more traction
As the owner of a Revolt, my mind is made up, but a recent monster cross event helped me understand the proper context for 1x, clutch derailleurs, 650b tires and some form of suspension, and also showed me what XC hardtails do under the same conditions, as riders of both were equally represented. I think where you fall on the spectrum depends on where you ride most regularly but also which gravel events you enter and how competitive you are.
Well... Its best to own 2 bikes for different purposes. I personally own a XC hardtail and will buy the Revolt which look like a endurance road bike but much more capable machine on various terrains
If I wanted comfort then I'd get either a dual suspension xc or light trail bike and the appropriate tyres for speed. I think specialize's futureshock is the only good thing that isn't gimmicky for gravel bikes.
would go for the revolt too. I was really really close to buy one, but in the end i found a good deal in an almost new Wilier Jena. In any case, long life to gravel bikes!
Just update a top spec 90s hardtail with lightweight lockout shorter-travel shock! For example, SID race titaniums have 60-80mm of travel, rock solid lockout, & plush rebound control, and so a superb grip over rough trails for a fork that weighs under 3lbs. It's not strong enough for proper MTB stunts, but turns out to be perfect for gravel and easy single track.
I have actually mostly ridden gravel for the last 5 years, mostly because I noticed that I'd I step on a hardtail of +- €1500 it just feels so heavy pushing the 5 extra kilograms up all the climbs. Now that I have a higher end 29er XC hardtail (older carbon Trek Supercaliber with Fox 32, DT Swiss wheels, etc) that only weighs 1kg more than my gravel bike, I actually prefer this XC hardtail for most of my rides. I love gravel bikes because they give you so much speed and lightness already with an alu frame and a simple Sram Apex1 groupset. But if I would spend €5K on a bike, I would just get a sub 10kg XC hardtail instead of a gravel bike, it's more than light and fast enough and it's more capable.
Personally I’d go for the Fezzari Shafer SRAM rival e tap build @ $3200…oh wait that is exactly what I did. Throw on the Rudy fork and electronic drop seat post with suspension and you are still 3K less than the BMC
My observation is that my old mtb with short travel forks and a USE suspension seatpost had all day comfort. Technically I think a seatpost is a better option. Elastomer and spring combo. It’s not so much suspension as damping trail buzz and improving comfort. Anyway I’ve got a basic Giant Revolt with a Carbon seatpost waiting to be ridden, but my recovery post hip,replacement is taking longer than expected
I have been riding a 2018 Giant TCX bike before the Revolt was released and have added 10-42 SRAM gearing to give it all road capability. I love it on single track and gravel roads and races as the quick handling as well as the short and stiff wheelbase make it a blast and I am not a young gun. I would love to get a Revolt but would be disappointed if it did not handle as quickly as my TCX or other CX inspired geometry.
I‘d take the Revolt due to simplicity reasons (less maintenance and better longterm resistance) . And better looks. The head tube of the BMC is way too long. What I don’t like at the Revolt is the stupid pressfit bottom bracket ! Hopefully they change it for 2023 model and ever after!
Great video 👍🏻 I believe both are great and beautiful bikes, it’s all to the rider him self and his style, I love the giant but I would chose the bmc, suits my style that’s all 😎👌🏻
More suspension means more parts to maintain or worse, to break. Exactly what i do not want on a gravel bike. Sometimes less is more (fun, and less work).
Both are amazing bikes and any one of us would be fortunate to ride either one. Would the Revolt not give as much comfort with fat 50mm tubeless tires at low pressure as a 42mm tire snd 1cm of “suspension”? Or even more ride cushion by keeping your wallet fuller and fatter?
my biggest issue with suspension on gravel bikes is that it's all very proprietary. on mountain bikes, you can swap suspension to your hearts content, but if you want something different on that bmc, your only option is to get a new bike. the canyon grizl and niner mcr do it right though.
The reason for that is Rockshox only now came out with a good fork and Fox is still work in progress, same with Suntour. So bike manufacturers took it in their own hand. In future we'll see the same RS, Fox, Suntour, Magura gravel forks everywhere since the market has grown so much.
It’s cool, but price does it. I don’t know about the rear but the headshock thing is cool. Tech aside bmc is just not a brand that has good value like giant. I’d buy a canyon lux or trek supercaliber if I wanted full sus.
The BMC is pronounced URS (latin, means "bear"), not U.R.S. Urs is a common male name just like Ursula for woman in Switzerland, which is home of BMC (Bicycle Manufacturing Company),
I mean neither , is it just me or are both insanely expensive , gonna stick to my Trek Crockett for slight gravel and Ghost lector HT for gravely gravel , both cheaper than the cheapest Giant tested . I mean Jesus who's spending £7.6k on a niche heavy bike ! Granted I am tight and like bargain so probably shouldn't watch these type in videos.
Totally dropped the ball here. That is the Giant Revolt Advanced PRO 0.... and it's $2000 more than the bike you think you are reviewing. How did this make it through any sort fact checking? Kind of disappointed in Bike Radar here.
