Gravy explains how to techchase optimally with Captain Falcon (Melee) 

how to optimally tech chase fox as falcon: #1 uhhh

"sorry im messing up, wizzy's really good at it" Understatement of the decade

That power shield Downsmash was literally the sexiest option select I've ever seen. So smart.

I recommend having a set script of what to say and what to cover / how to cover it vocally / with examples in mind, instead of "free-styling" it, this video could have been much more condensed imo. But really great info all around! xD

You should remake this video and shorten it to like 5 or 10 minutes with the important content on the 20GX page.

nice stuff. Glad to hear what you guys have to say, I have a group of friends that seems far more interested in the smash community, tournament outcomes, and knowing the terms for tech skill, instead of trying to master tech skill. Been playing 2 years, they have terribly bad habits, and always have been ridiculously predictable, I just fucked up my tech skill 90% of the time, because when I learn something, I use it, even though my badness causes me to miss a lot of errors. Now l-cancel, dash->wavedash, and wavelanding are becoming more of an involuntary bit of muscle memory. I went to a tournament (Illinois) and was upset to find so many players that care more about a higher place in the tournament than they do about fighting people who actually know enough tech skill to play a psychological (fun, competitive) game. Means a lot to me to be able to see more and more videos of topics other than "how to moonwalk" and watching a guy teaching people bad practices but slightly possible (and easy) approaches to doing something.

i lost it when he started power shielding everything

This is the best melee guide I've seen. Makes me want to pick up falcon

I love this tutorial, and keep coming back to it as I gradually learn each step. Please do a similar one for comboing non-fast-fallers.

My cat's name is Gravy and you place as falcon, which is stylish. Awesome

This might be a noob question to ask but why wavedash right after throwing Fox? Correct me if I'm wrong but Captain Falcon's run is faster than his wavedash.

Holding down during a tech chase is not the same as c-stick down C-stick down gives ASDI only, holding down on the control stick (at a time when you can't crouch like during tech chases) gives ASDI+DI Since the percent you can ASDI into the ground is determined by how far the move picks you up off the ground on the first frame (it needs to be less than how far you can ASDI) DI down lowers your trajectory and makes you able to ASDI down into the ground for a larger percent window This also applies for the Raptor boost picking them up off the ground- DSDI would allow them to ASDI down while DIing sideways with the control stick to allow them to have a less vertical angle that distributes some of their knockback sideways, reducing how far up they travel on the first frame and letting them ASDI into the ground at a slightly later percent- did you factor this into your 25% number?

Wizzy, do you have a solid fox or any other secondary? I feel like you have the potential to place much higher in tournament its just quite hard with falcon

crazy. gravy is a lab genius for sure.

What are you guys playing on im trying to get better and i feel seeing things frame by frame will help

What tool are you using to show frames, advance by frames, pause the game, etc? Is it just the 20XX pack because if so I have no idea how to do it lol

Mind blown... If this is mastered the implications would be nuts. I am a falcon main in PM repping CT and you better believe Im hitting the lab with this concept. Overall I worked a lot on my read ability which helps but when a person is hard to read it just makes for a sloppy match with falcon. Thanks a ton guys.

I really enjoy these videos, but the one option you do that I would optimize would be where you are trying to cover his getup attack or roll away option. You can cover that with stop on reaction. I've played Wizzy and he has much better reactions than I do and I can do it pretty consistently. You can literally just jump over the getup attack and stomp.

why does no one techchase like this? I mean obviously gravy plays fox now but this seems so good. wizzrobe has been using purely grabs to reaction tech chase, but that seems objectively worse than reacting with aerials, since using only grabs takes way more perfect reactions to build up the same amount of damage. is it that Gravy's system can't actually be done on reaction? has anyone other than gravy actually tried to implement this?

Yo man this is awesome, really helped me improve my falcon game

Mad useful! do you think you could give a tutorial on how to do the Silentspectre Waveland? there isnt a single vid on RU-vid for it.

This is a very informative vid, thanks 👍 also congrats on 5th at evo 2018. Let’s go wizzy

i still can't react in 18 frames x_x

Holy fucking shit Gravy looks exactly like me.

Yes finally u make a new video plz upload more

ty for this guide, now I can grapple with captain falco just like wizzy

Wizzy is there going to be a playlist of all the topics that was covered on stream ?

So does most of this work for Project M? I'm trying to learn Captain Falcon.

Where did you get those smexy shines? Texture tutorials are so complicated

Do you have any tournament matches that shows you powershielding the getup attack into something?

Awesome vid! thank you for uploading this!

Does these tech chases apply to other characters as well?

would counter picking a fox to pokemon stadium be a good idea because the transformations can cut off his away option

I have a very serious question. So... Input lag. I have been playing melee for about a year and a half now, and i am pretty technical. I always practiced on either a wii or gamecube, and i noticed no difference between the two. However, when I booted up Dolphin emulator about 3 weeks ago, I noticed that the inputs were happening instantaneously. I could now literally react with a Shine or Chaingrab fox with ganon. The muscle memory is the same, but the inputs are immediate. My question is: do they play tournaments on consoles with input delay, and if so, Is this (i think about 8 frames) lag normal? and would Playing dolphin mess me up?

Does this only work against spacies?

we gotta make a flowchart for this

Whatever happened to gravy?

why is uthrow better than dthrow for tech chasing?

22:59 RAMEN NOODLES

How do you get into this mode in 20XX?

How do you do the "YES!" on knee?

what 20XX mode is this

You should cut off the high audio frequencies when recording around a CRT, the high pitched whine makes my head hurt lol.

Quick question, do any Falcon players use claw?

how can i get that debug mode on melee o:?

i wana see that double get up attack powershield to knee in real life

Can someone explain the option select down smash powershield for me?

The Debug is all like BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gravy sounds exactly like James Woods(actor).

Missed tech punishing at 11:22

I still can't dashwavedash

11:55 nice

i stopped watching when he told me i could consistently powershield to raptor boost

Notice me senpai

10:00

lmao just ply fox