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@@hoodwinktheranger2967 He raised a billion dollars to get the GEM going… I thought he was crazy when he first started the fundraising for it.. as much as I am not a fan of Hawass he does have a remarkable ability to raise money… he wasn’t exactly speaking to big funders in LA, and I don’t think he made something up about the queens chamber underground… something’s popping…
Your videos and the story of the pyramids, is like a series that you want to bingewatch, but can´t because the episodes have not been written yet... There are so many cliffhangers, I WANT TO SEE THE NEXT EPISODE OF "The tale of the pyramids" ASAP! I feel like I am back in the "good old days of tv" where you had to wait until next week to get another episode, except that the next episode is not comming next week, but in a future near me...
With all the new discoveries at the pyramids, it's nice to see the politics have at least remained the same. 'Same sh!t, different discovery' isn't that something like what those archeo types say?
It was truly a joy to work with Ancient Architects on this research. It's rare to get compelling new information on the Great Pyramid, and sorting it all out was thrilling. Stefan Bergdoll is rightly praised for finding those new testimonies from 1837. I personally have other ideas for what's under the Queen's Chamber floor, but I'll save those for a future video. How lucky am I to have Matt as such a gracious and brilliant collaborator.
I just read the original description written by Visino (google is as great as it is creepy). I think I found a small inaccuracy in the English translation of his despription of the Queen's Chamber. It may change the interpretation of what he saw. On page 133, Visino writes: "Vom Eingange links, an der östlichen Wand, größtenteils in der selben, steht der etwas kleinere Sarg aus Marmor, offen, leer, einfach." - Left of the entrance (into the QC), on the eastern wall, largely inside of it, stands the somewhat smaller marble coffin, open, empty, simple. I think that is pretty much proof that he had mistaken the square part of the tunnel in the niche for a sarcophagus. He continues: "Unter demselben wird gegenwärtig nachgegraben, und es war bereits ein marmorbedeckter Raum sichtbar, welcher, angestoßen, hohl erklingt. - Under the same (the coffin) an excavation is ongoing and a room covered with marble was already visible. When knocked, it (the room) sounds hollow. My interpretation is, he referes to the discovered room sounding hollow, not to the coffin. That means he most probably did not see the inside of a newly discovered room. He saw a limestone block (or several) and believed it was the outer side of the wall (or upper side of the ceiling?) of a hidden room because it sounded hollow. I think it is possible that what he saw was a ceiling blocks of the underlying corridor. If Vyse really had found a corridor and had to cover it up again to prevent the discovery from getting stolen, it is bitter irony that now, of all people, Zawi "I don't believe in radar" Hawass is about to steal it.
If your interpretation is right ,then that makes sense, whereas the interpretation in this video doesn't,... Though I'd be abit sceptical of google translate! , (it isn't always accurate) PS, thanks for the info.
Have to be careful not just in the translation, but in what words may have meant in common usage 150 years prior. Even today, the word "coffin" can refer to a niche or any enclosed place for burial of a thing, whereas "sarcophagus" has today a much more limited meaning. In other words, I agree ...
@@kaiwhatley2136 I'm German, I don't rely on google translate for a German book. Only for proper translation to English I need a dictionary here and there but I don't use google for that purpose. Mentioning google, I meant that I easily found Visino's book with google. They digitalised a 19th century book that almost nobody has even heard of and you can read it for free. How great is that? The creepy thing about google the mysteriously matching content do you get shown sometimes, even when everything is done to stop the spys. The old German lettering slows me down a little, but in its printed form it's quite easy to get used to it. The bigger challenge to me is translating 19th century German to English. The phrasing was much more formal back then. My English is far away from being perfect and I don't know enough about old English phrasing that would match the phrasing of the original text. It's especially difficult in this case here, because even small inaccuracies can mess up what Visino really wanted to tell. Others commented that there must have been a stone coffin inside the niche. The floor of the niche is about 1,5 m wide and about 1 m deep. A coffin for an adult human does not fit in that small room. At least not when you assume that "largely inside" means that at least 3/4 of the coffin was standing inside the niche.
If the hypothesis that the sarcophagus in the Queen's chamber was actually just a carved out niche for a coffin it is unlikely that Puckler would have said there were two simple sarcophagi. As a layman he would surely have distinguished between the two different structures and a layman would not call a niche a sarcophagus in my opinion.
yeh how did they come up with that theory?? it makes no sense at all didnt the guy crawl down the corridor they rekkon is the second sarcophagus?? soo silly people
Agreed, a niche burial is not a sarcophagus. Maybe a sarcophagus was in the niche below the tunnel entrance? Not sure how wide the lowest step of the vaulted area are but if it was a simple box sarcophagus then it would only be 7'ish long. They don't seem impressed with it so it could be have been really plain. Tbh, HV could have removed and sold the sarcophagus or simply broken it up if it was in his way.
Pückler was as familiar with the burial practice of Christian noble men as was Visino. I think it is possible that they both came to the same conclusion for the same reason.
I watched until 17:16 right now, so I'm not sure if you will address this at a later point, but I doubt it. First of all, I'm German and read Visino's text you showed onscreen. that said, I must make clear that Visino didn't say that the "coffin" sounded hollow but that he was talking about the dug out chamber beneath said "coffin", so in this regard you are absolutely right that the hollow sound of the "coffin" is irrelevant. And I don't know why he would knock on the sarkophagus anyway, since he clearly states, that it is open, which obviously means "without a lid", and empty, which he can see, because there's no lid hindering his view. And before I go on I must say that the book we both are quoting of was written based on letters send by Visino to a priest in the Bavarian town of Passau, with Visino back than - as stated in the titel of the book - being royal Greek field chaplain and garrison preacher in Athens, so that the whole text might possibly be a translation, most likely from latin, especially since Visino sounds rather like an Italian than a German name. Then again was in 1840 the King of Greece a Bavarian = German who would most likely rather take a German than an Italian priest with him to Greece, and it is possible to have an Italian name while being German at the same time. So what I am saying is, take the following with a grain of salt. Visino uses in the case of the Queen's Chamber the same word for sarkophagus as in that of the King's Chamber, namely "Sarg" = "coffin". If your theory, that Visino meant the outer part of the niche in the Queen's Chamber, was correct I would expect him to use a wording that would make the differences between both sarkophogae obvious, maybe something like "Grabnische" (literally "burial niche") in case of the Queen's chamber. And he says that the "coffin" is standing, too. I'm not 100% sure about English, but in German you can't say that something stands if there is nothing that actually can stand, even if we take into account that German did change quite a bit over the last 200 years. The whole text would have been written in a completely different way. And let's not forget that Visino says that the "coffin" stands "largely inside" the wall, he doesn't say "completely". I've only seen photos, but to me it doesn't look as if anything would stick out of the niche. And he can't mean the whole niche either, because this would clearly be much *larger* than the "coffin" in the King's Chamber. tl;dr: I don't agree with your theory about the sarkophagus in the Queen's chamber.
27:41 Visino, again, did not just see the marble-coated room, he also banged against it, which most likely means the marble, and heard that it sounded hollow.
Thanks for that clarification, I also agree with you. This whole layperson thing is a bit silly here, surely these 2 people are relatively smart. The niche in the queens chamber and the sarcophagus in the Kings chamber look completely different. Basically you are calling them stupid by saying they can't tell the difference.
Stunning. Pückler indeed was one of the most read authors in 19th century Europe. Almost forgotten today, but in the old days, he was a superstar. The inventor of travel-journalism. While in Egypt, he was under protection of Pasha Mehmet Ali. And Pückler was very much looking for attention - like he wanted to find the source of the nile! Needing money all the time, as he was living much over his financial limits. So Vyse's fear might have had a reason. BTW: Pückler is buried in a huge pyramid! His body was dissolved in acid and then the remains placed in that pyramid. And he was obsessed with the oriental lifestyle, dressing like a pasha at his home palace in Prussia.
I can't wait until we find the true expanse of past civilizations, all the underwater and buried sites have so much to add to this puzzle. So glad your channel is so dedicated to this topic and the videos so well thought out.
@@Wallyworld30 You do know that there are already underwater archaeological discoveries that have been made and documented? Off the shore of India being just one example of many. To compare the possibility of further discoveries to flying pigs, smacks of flippancy.
All very well looking to explore space but it’s always made me sigh deeply … we have so much of our own history to still, yet discover. Under the sands, underwater! So much lost just waiting to be found again. 🌹❤️
I think there was a second sarcophagus built into -- or part of -- the well covert. I think to get under it, and behind it, it was totally destroyed because it was BUILT INTO the wall and couldn't be slid out of the way. I think the rubble in those photos are parts of it, but I think the rest of it was used also as backfill for the whole dug under it, and the rubble from digging out the whole in back was placed over it. That is why the rubble doesn't look like a broken up sarcophagus, really, it was only one side of one.
Hawis had set back real archeology the real history of the Pyramid and ancient Egypt no one has done so much to suppress true history there now maybe some real work can get done now without greasing his pocket or having to give him credit
I don't think that anyone could mistake that area as a sarcophagus...or box. A box is a box is a box if you know what I mean, and that looks nothing like one. There probably was a sarcophagus in the Queens chamber and somebody removed it. Sometimes the simple answers are the most likely ones.
I agree. If someone knows what a sarcophagus is, that’s exactly what they saw and not referring to an opening to a tunnel. Maybe the sarcophagus was too heavy to move during excavations and got broken up? Hence no longer recorded in future visits.
@@Sphinx2000 They were well aware of what a sarcophagus was back then. There was a sarcophagus in the Menkaure pyramid that was removed in 1838 by the British. Alas, the boat sunk in the Mediterranean on its journey back to the UK . Thanks for reply.
@@drum420 There are a few things that bother me about this hypothesis. #1 if you were in Egypt back then you would have had money. #2 If you had money you were probably educated. #3 You would have had a pre-existing interest and knowledge of ancient Egypt. But lets go with the layman who didn't know what they were looking at idea and he misidentified what that area was. As soon as he got in the Kings chamber he would said "ah, that's a box, coffin, sarcophagus..not what I saw in the Queens chamber". Last, if you go to Egypt you will see sarcophaguses everywhere, and there were way more back then before they were plundered. Just like today, everyone knew what they were and what they looked like.
@@dazuk1969 hmmm very good thoughts on that one, i didnt put much thought into it because i feel like egypt will never show the world whats inside these places
There are so many Bad books about the Pyramids so whenever I see the word Secret in the title , I'm turned off. Hawass is experienced and knowledgeable but for me his credibility is Zero.
This is fascinating. Congratulations Matt for finding new data so often ! You're a true researcher, collaborating with others in an admirable way. Thanks a lot for your amazing work, you manage to renew this quest like no other !
In this video, your comments on the sarcophagus in the queens chamber swiftly moves from totally speculative to an opinion based on matters of fact, with this opinionated fact now being backed up by the guess of your new friend on the Granite channel, while you both seem to have overlooked and/or ignored the earliest description given of it as a smaller sarcophagus than that of the Kiing's chamber. Your work has often been marred by these enthusiastic leaps of faith in the past, Matt, where you have decided to place your trust in a vaguely supported theory that requires you to ignore so much else, and for me, this is a pity because it would be far more meaningful to try to explore and understand why establishment figures have changed their tune and are now pushing for the existence of a chamber below that called the Queens chamber.
Very well said. This content is already interesting enough without the extrapolations. The History for Granite channel has also suffered from some excess of enthusiasm in jumping to conclusions. Too bad because otherwise both bring a very fresh account of these excavations that some of us only remember vaguely from the news or history books.
One of the big mysteries for me, is why the Egyptian authorities are so adverse to explorations, especially none destructive ones. With the technology and experts available, it still seems to take years to get permission to do anything, if they even allow it. Then if something is allowed they often don't want to publish the results. It's as if they value the mystery more than the knowledge. Unless they already now the answers. .
Don't forget Egypt has an Islamic culture. Islam finds large monuments heretical by nature. False Gods if you like. They once tried to destroy the 3rd Pyramid for this reason, hence the gash down the middle.
@@miltonreid6740 Well I'll give you that they are happy to destroy other cultures monuments, but they didn't rush to melt down and destroy the contents of Tutankhamun's grave site, who the Egyptians believed to possess divine powers. You don't get more heretical than a living God.
@@General_Confusion it's only a tiny minority of Egyptians that have a problem. And politics is a very strange business. It was a mob of Christians who possibly burnt the Ancient Library at Alexandria. A great loss to scholars.
I believe the pyramids have more chambers than we think in them. Not just the Great Pyramid of Giza. These sites need to be more accessible. In Egypt most of these sites are closed behind locked gates. Edit: Also let me say something I have believed for a while. Hawass knows more about the sites in Egypt than what he is telling us. Such has hidden chambers.
Yes, Hawass knows a lot. He was also under the Sphinx. Two weeks, two weeks! And said when he came up: "There is nothing to see"... Sure, Hawass... Lol, lol
Another fantastic video. I've followed your channel for quite some time and it has been quite the journey: from fun speculations and fringe theories to some of the best documentaries into the ancient structures of the world. goes to show that your open mind and attention to detail really pays off on these sort of subjects.
Just wondering if Vyse's claim that the excavation was only 4 feet deep could have also been a diversion of sorts. If anyone came to check in the same spot and decided to dig down 4 feet and go a little bit deeper just in case they would more than likely come up with nothing. However if Vyse had stated he dug to 8 feet you would check to that depth plus a bit extra, possibly exposing something if he intended it to be hidden ?
Another possible explanation is the chamber below happened to be uncovered on the day when Visino visited and Vyse was not present but the workers, or those in charge of the workers, for whatever motive, kept it from Vyse and filled back in part of the dig. Hence Vyse's recording the shaft was only 3-4 foot deep and not 8 feet deep. Perhaps Vyse was never advised of the find. It would make a good movie script. Ancient priests or their descendants had infiltrated the digging team, and sworn to keep the secret, managed to hide it from Vyse. Another point that does not make sense is the "bumping" of the sarcophagus, if they were referring to the early part of the tunnel in the wall. How do you "bump" the hole? Even you mentioned you would like to "bang a fist" on the squared off section, not to bump it. Bumping would imply something was there to bump into.
How could a German prince displace a British explorer when Egypt is under control of the British? How do you know that Vyse isn't there to make sure certain discoveries are never made public? I think you trust Vyse too much.
It was my understanding Zahi Hawass was no longer directly involved with anything to do with the Pyramids, why on earth is he giving lectures in 2022 about them, why is anyone taking any notice of him, he is the major reason we have been in the dark for so long, he has dismissed, ridiculed, obstructed and denied much of the requests for further exploration, he has been the single obstacle stopping everyone except those who repeat anything he says. The man is vile he has held back any research, I can only guess for his own self aggrandizement, and yet here we are in 2022, and he is still front and centre. Sarcophagus could have taken and easily sold to anyone for funding, it all sounds cloak and dagger, find something, get worried others may take your find, bury it and tell everyone there is nothing there, why did he not come back and claim his prize, too many people out to claim some fantastic price and get their name down in the history books.
Wow! You summed up his (lack of) character so precisely. I've never trusted a single word or deed from him...call it a gut feeling. His arrogance alone is appalling. He appears to me to be the lowest of the low: a Grave robber. Maybe some random Egyptian curse will get him lol.
This is great stuff. You know, if we were ever given the blueprints for the pyramids we'd probably realize how much more is being invested into it's construction than was ever intended. Monumentally impressive as an architectural and engineering feat. And monumental in its brute construction. But I think to make these things just a kind of dumb necessity to a bigger purpose (take your choice here of 'real purpose of the pyramids') maybe it's just so much fiction and hope and wispy photos. Really everyone, end of day it is built in a necropolis. There is a sarcophagus in a room. If it's in fact a tomb instead of a water pump or electricity generator and alien landing base does this in any way detract from the monumental feat of construction and engineering?
"potential staircase," has also been reported. My research suggests the east wall niche was the entrance to and from the early structure, not an ornate dysfunctional masonry. Corbelled stone serves a singular structural function, the potential when and how, during construction, the east wall niche served its function is far more fascinating than stone boxes, etc.
Matt, do you have any thoughts as to why the niche is offset from the centre of the Queen's Chamber by a noticeable amount? It just seems off that it's not right in the centre, where it would look symmetrical.
Frankly, if they just find a small room. It will still be world news. The great pyramid will go from a 2 bedroom to a 2 1/2 bedroom. A substantial increase in property value.
Also I forgot to mention that I recently encountered a new published article on the hydraulic shafts in the great pyramid and how the builders used that to elevate stones to the top hydraulically... If you can do a research on that , it would make interesting videos
Zahi Hawass is the biggest liar and scam artist in the field of Egyptology. Really sad these channels are always quoting him like he were a reliable source.
After years of research, this thing obviously wasn’t built by Kufu (Cheops). It was likely reinhabited after the younger dryas impact events and ‘claimed’ by the surviving remnants of that culture. Don’t be deluded in believing you’ll ever find a sarcophagus in there…
Brilliant work, the pair of you. It can be jointly amazing and infuriating to go through old documents, especially with a language barrier. When I was younger and fitter, I used to go caving and from that know how poor lighting can effect perception, and in such a place and environment, a term like "room" is not exactly helpful description. Could be like the room under the stairs. Let's hope that there are further excavations, so we can find out one way or the other
It's a piece of equipment not a damn burial tomb.. you couldn't motivate a people no matter what force you use to expend the manpower or resources, not to mention the complex math involved required for construction. I recommend Christopher Dunn's Giza's Power Plant.
Good show but I still think it is unlikely they found a secret chamber or corridor and covered it up. That said, I am not saying there isn't such thing under the queens chamber, just that I don't think they found it before. I just don't see how all the people digging up the chamber would take it to their graves without the word leaking. Still, it is certainly worthwhile to dig up the excavation and run a GPR around the pit before filling it up and actually restoring the floor. I kinda feel like they should restore the queens chamber anyways, it is kinda like putting up the Stonehenge stones that fell in relatively modern times while leaving the ones that fell before the site was first documented. Restoring the floor is a good excuse to dig up the rubble and document it anyways. :) Even if the shaft does not reach a hidden chamber it is very possible that GPR (ground penetrating radar) could find something under it that wasn't discovered in the 19th century and it isn't a very costly excavation either.
The older written German can be confusing, some words are not even used these days, the old style printing isnt helping either. He is a specator and I agree, its through his eyes. But as I can read older German fortunately and I read a little further then those pages. To me he did see a sarg, it said: steht der etwas kleineren Sarg aus Marmor . Meaning stands the some what smaller Sarg made of marble. Why would he say stand, if its a hole in the wall? To me that doesnt make sense. So to me there was one. He is saying that they are at that moment digging there, the room is covered in marble. The room sounded hollow. What I do find nice to read, is that even people who crawled through the whole pyramid even joked that this pyramid was never for graves, it must have had another function. Thanx for the link, I will read the whole part when I can. Never knew it existed.
Zahee hawass is the worst gatekeeper in history Every couple of years when Egyptian tourism shrinks Zahee hawass: release a secret chamber we've know about for 100 years we need more tourists now
Not sure how anyone can argue that a tunnel can be mistaken for a sarcophagus, especially if there is an example of a large free standing sarcophagus nearby. They are just too different to be considered as the same thing without some mention in the writing. Also, how could someone accidently bump the sarcophagus if it is just a part of a tunnel?
Well, in my experience, different lighting of an space can change how you experience it hugely It is hard to imagine how different it was (compared to modern days) to explore these chambers only with fire on a stick or the lights of 1800-1900 technology sorry for words not so good, me no sleep but need
Just thought I'd mention a publication that might help. Published in two volumes. The Library of Entertaining Knowledge from the 1830s. Entitled British Museum Egyptian Antiquities vol 1 1832, vol 2 1836. The chapter in Vol 2 on the great pyramid is quite facinating and lots of mentions of chambers and lost areas. Much info on various explorers of 18th and early 19th. Might be of interest to you. Thank you for all your wonderful research and programs.
If you just think about the shape of our galaxy you can imagine it got its shape by turning many times... The thing is that at the position of our sun ONE complete rotation takes some 220 million years... When you look at the three pyramids on the giza plateau there are a few first observations. The erosion is extensive and in my view more than 5000 years old and the building blocks and construction not inline with the abillities of humans 5000 years ago. With these observations and knowledge of the age of our sun and galaxy it is not absolutely crazy to think that the great pyramid is older than 100.000 years....maybe a million years. It is built the way it is to stand time and must have been worthwhile building.
@@danpetitpas yes..i understand where you want to go with this. That part of the world must have more of its share of earthquakes..So the protective white stones must have been falling from those pyramids long before people started to built Cairo with them. The erosion is so severe that there must be more going on than the mainstream egyptogists are claiming. I would like to accept all they say is truth and fact but with applying common sense many of their conclusions do not hold water.
@@Za7a7aZ I don't quite agree. The brownstone used to build the pyramids is pretty soft. I live in a city with lots of brownstone buildings and they show a lot of wear and tear even after only 100 years of being out in the elements. The pyramid blocks also were not "dressed," meaning they were just roughly hacked out of the plateau and tossed in place. The Sphinx, on the other hand, shows at least 5,000 years of weathering and we know Khafre at least restored it at that time. So I don't think the pyramid blocks look that weathered, but it's not possible at the present time to date stone unless it was buried, and I do agree with you that the pyramids and the Sphinx could be a lot older.
Fürst Pückler schreibt sich nicht "Puckler" - wie hier fälschlich behauptet wird, sondern "Pückler" mit dem Umlaut U und wenn man diesen nicht auf seiner Tastatur hat, so lautet die richtige Umschreibung "ue", als Pueckler!
I would like to know where the rubble came from to fill the tunnel in the first place, It seems unlikely someone would have gone to the trouble to bring it to the Queen's chamber just to dump it in there.
Could the rubble in the excavation be from the phantom sarcophagus? Easy way to hide its existence and the hole-just smash it to pieces, shove them in the hole and call it rubble.
Great deductive work yet again. From reading that description a few times I think things are slightly different. He says "From the entrance to the left of the eastern wall, largely in the same, stands the somewhat smaller marble coffin". I take this that the coffin was standing on the floor inside the niche with most of it inside the niche. The passage in the niche being above the coffin. "Excavation under it is presently taking place", from this I think that the coffin is still in place and that in front of the coffin the floor was being excavated. at some point the coffin was removed from the niche or it was broken so that the excavation could go back further into the floor of the niche. "Above this coffin, a low shaft led into the eastern wall". This is the passage in the niche that goes east. So this shaft was above the coffin, again suggesting that the coffin was on or possibly part in the floor at the bottom of the niche. "I crawled in on my knees and elbows. After about 30 feet, it led south". Now this leading south didnt appear correct, but examinig a plan of this tunnel and excavation it does have a small excavation slightly to the south, although not a passage, maybe there was rubble or a stone to the north. "Now it went upwards, at first more spacious", again examing the plan at about 30 feet it does open up a bit above and is wider. "But then so narrow", again from the plan, it does indeed get narrower again until it reaches its end. If you search for "Sophie Dukes Pyramid", there is an article entitled "Khufu's Great Pyramid: CAD Model Status" that contains these plans. I hope this is of help to you Matt (P.S. I have tried to send you a message on FB Messenger about something else that you may find interesting)
there is also the possibility that there was another sarcophagus or parts of one in the chamber. could have been broken up and used to fill in the hole. interesting to note that part of the filling was decayed particles of black stone.
First seconds of video shows a entrance? The entrance? What ever it is??? As a machinery builder and steel fitter I'm noticing something here. The lower left block is higher than it's mate. The upper right block is higher than it's mate. Yet the center line Gap is consistent and vertically aligned. Also notice the overlap of the lower left over the upper right. Low left is locking the right side blocks with the overlap. Also the fact that they offset the peak point show's it was done in antiquity. I also find interesting is the bottom of the Arch. It's not correct angles and dimensions. Almost looks like the first set sagged and they corrected from there... Okie dokie off to your video.
IF BATS WERE IN THERE, THAT CLEARLY MEANS THERE IS AN AIRWAY INTO THAT CHAMBER. PROBABLY MEANS BATS ARE STILL IN THERE. PUT TRACKING DEVICES ON THE BATS AND YOU WILL FIND THE ENTIRE LAYOUT ACCESSIBLE BY THEIR TINY BODIES.
Just a small historical linguistic correction for your fascinating RU-vid presentations. When "learned" is used as an adjective, as in "learned professor", it is pronounced "ler-nid". In fact in the 1830s, apostrophes were often used for the verb to make the distinction, as in "I learn'd about a learned gentleman".
We all know the pyramid is just tomb so it only really needs two chambers. Nothing mysterious about it. They got bored quarrying lime stone so they used granite on some parts just for fun. The angles/shapes of the internal shafts and chambers are just random and don't mean anything. The dimensions are just random and anyone suggesting they relate to the size of earth and other mathematical constants are just imagining things. Just boring old tombs, everyone knows pyramids are just the easiest way to stack blocks. All ya need is some copper and sand for quarrying and some doirite balls when that gets boring. 😉😂
Wouldn’t be the first time that not everything was told about a discovery. Someone once spent a few weeks in the tunnel at the back end of the Sphinx and said there was nothing down there. How do spend that long looking at nothing?
What were the biographical details of Vyse's subsequent life? Did he live for some years after this? Any search of his personal writings or efforts to come back or did he just fade into obscurity. What if he had a personal diary? Just curious.
He lived for about 15 years after all this, and his unpublished works and notes were passed down to his eldest son who then donated them to the British Museum. AFAIK they're still there - sealed and unchecked.
Might be worth exploring the definitions of the word “sarcophagus” at the time of the authors. Words can shift in meaning over time, and the connotation we have today might not be what they had back then. Or alternatively, look into the translated words to see if there are alternate substitutions that might shed different light. Perhaps “sarcophagus” wasn’t the best word to use to translate to English, but seemed more “fitting” by the translator in the context of the pyramids.
On Page 121 of John Athony West's Traveller's Key to Egypt he gives his account of this chamber, and items inside. Prof Robert Temple has made in depth studies of all accessible structures in Egypt with permission of Hawass (many still closed off), so perhaps you should try to discuss with him your theories. I had the Great pyramid all to myself during the Revolution and stood for a long time, alone and uninterrupted in the "Kings" and "Queens" chambers. You could feel a "heart beat" type background sound (it was January so not aircon). There were ladders in place up to the Relieving Chambers, but I was too chicken to go up in case someone took the ladders away.
halloo, Matt! great info here, as always. the possibilities abound. the idea to re-dig that excavation makes the most sense, to me. as you said, it's not going to hurt a thing, and, it might put this particular controversy to rest. you really got the alternative people going with this one. there are some valid points of discussion but, like the mainstream, it's all speculation. excavation and research is needed to find any "proof" of any claims, regardless of which side they're on. someday, perhaps? see ya next time, friend. nuff said
*Note, GeoRadar is a GPR (ground penetrating radar) manufacturer, and not the technology itself, and I’m also fairly certain they do not provide the service. I would like to see the survey results. They should provide screenshots of the data with explanations. A detectable void under the surface should be easy to spot for experienced technicians and service providers. The depth to the top of the void would also be determinable within a few inches. There are also telltale signatures indicating whether it’s man made or not. Do you have a link to the survey report? It is a bit frustrating for those of us who are experienced with a lot of these technologies to continually see lots of claims in books and videos regarding said technology that supposedly support claims with zero evidence shown.
They need to just dismantle the fucking thing already. It shouldn’t take this long or be this hard to answer questions we can easily solve simply by looking. “What’s inside?!! What’s underneath?!? What’s buried?!?..” -um, not sure.. so let’s find the fuck out? “Nooooooooooooooo!!!!!…! Let’s hypothesize! Let’s speculate! Let’s theorize! Let’s GUESS!!! FOREVER AND EVER!!”
Hmmmm, Compelling. Yet all the evidence provided with the ground radar, my only question is why the Muon scanning project hasn't detected anything below the queens chamber? The problem being, argumentatively speaking, is that if there is indeed a hidden chamber beneath the Queen, then the whole muon project is going to be thrown out the window. Why wasn't the ground radar that suggests a corridor confirmed with the data set by the Muon team that equally suggest a void higher up? I guess both are possible. We shall wait and see.
I could be wrong, but I think the results of the first muon scan were limited by where they placed the sensors, i.e. The sensors placed in the QC might have only been "looking up"?
Once I found an ex girlfriends secret chamber. She told me to get out🤦♂️on a serious note, I love your vids Matt! You're a class act in the world of ancient architecture
Hawass has little ethics. First, he dismiss any claim... then, years later, he announces the claim as if he was the author of the discovered. A pattern...
Seems to me that if you find something at 8 foot deep but you want to conceal it, you tell everyone you only dug three feet and found nothing. I bet Vyse did find something.
10:10 re the Queen's chamber as a "marble covered room" don't you think this just means all the marble has been subsequently stripped away? I always got the impression that Victorian pyramid explorers grew up in fabulous stately homes. Surely they'd know the difference between fine marble and common sandstone!...??
I found the 13th century quote at 19:44 to be pretty interesting - "On the roof of the room are writings of the most ancient characters of the heathen priests." What writing is being referred to? (PS- Hawass sucks ass, I hope we can do some real research and get all the actual info in our lifetimes)
Fürst Pückler does not write "Puckler" - as is wrongly claimed here, but "Pückler" with the umlaut U and if you don't have this on your keyboard, the correct paraphrase is "ue", as Pueckler!
Pückler also writes in that book on page 32 that a sarcophagus without hieroglyps was found UNDER the pyramid, but empty and damaged. On side 33 he writes that the allegedly found hieroglyphs found by Vyse maybe freshly painted. on page 36 he again writes that there are TWO sarcophagi, 'steinerne Kastensärge' means stone box coffins. He also went down to the well shaft and relieving chambers and subterranean chamber. Strangly, his overall tone of his pyramid descriptions give the impression he was not very impressed .
🤔 I think I'm less convinced now then I was in you're last video. You certainly might be on to something but I also think there's a lot of wishful thinking on this topic. I really hope I turn out to be wrong, but I can't help but think this one is a dud.
Could well be… that was point 12 in my summary - but I think it’s worth sharing new sources of information with everyone and keep the conversation going.
Absolutely. I'm not saying not to explore this, by all means let's do this thing. I will absolutely be on the edge of my seat on this one. There still has to be at least one more shaft to let the funeral procession escape. There is guaranteed to be more to find and I'm getting older every day lol
There is no "burial" chamber... no one was buried in these temples, they weren't tombs... there may well be hidden chambers; but they arent burial chambers...
@@AncientArchitects Please don't parrot mainstream theoretical speculations as if they're true. The mainstream terms "Egyptian Pyramids" and Queen's Chamber" are not proven, they're speculative theories, have never been proven true.
@@AncientArchitects I do know, that no bodies have ever been found/recovered in any of the great pyramids... so honestly, calling them tombs is purely speculation...; but, yes we can speculate... I ain't mad at ya...
