Sounds like some of the kiwi freight locos - older DX class and some of the shunters they use at night lmfao, they have the similar bass note and belchy sound when they get going. Ridiculously loud, lived literally next to the main trunk line for 8 years!
even no not much is happening this is one of the best videos on youtube so far that i have come across sound is exclent many thanks 4 posting 10 stars 4 u lol 5 max is what i can do
Actually the DF11 has the same diesel engine, contrary to what you guessed... But the gearing is much different of course, for a top speed of 170 km/h for the DF11. Thus, tractive effort of the DF11 is "only" 216 kN... A DF11 sounds similar too, but they only sound like this at higher speeds...
Reminds me of a pair of 37's with thankers thrashing up the Colne Valley towards Manchester when I was a nipper. Unfortunately all I get to drive thesedays is bloody 14x and 15x :(
Funny that many people commenting here try to compare the sound of this DF8B with European or American diesels, but in reality these Chinese engines are way louder! I have been filming this beasts with coal trains of 5000 tons on a 1,2% grade, and nothing compares to this! You can hear them on the climb for more than half an hour, and when they pass, a "wall of sound" comes towards you and the whole valley is filled with sound, even the first 10 freight cars cannot be heard because of it... :-)
Having never heard one of these before, I thought it was rather a good sound. Deep bass notes mixed with a decent turbo scream. At full whack it was very much like an overgrown BR class 20 beating its heart out. I'd love to hear the 'wall of sound' these make when under full load
A simple goggle search reveled that they are made by Quishuyan and Ziyang. So they are Chinese made with their own manufactured engines, although a few have Caterpillar diesels
Old video, but that sound is really hellfire tough, much better than all the silenced shit we have in Europe today, were went the days I could stand at a Belgian railway line and hear the diesels climb the incline half an hour in advance, in China you still can.
@pablof59 Diesel Electric locomotives dont have clutches they use electric transmission. The motor is directley hooked up to a gennerator which makes electricity for the electric traction motors that are conected to the wheels. like an electric locomotive which carries its own powerplant. but I see your point that would be cool. they should make a sport for locomotives kind of like tractor pooling, that would be awsome
Ah reminds me of the engine sounds i would hear when i was younger and live near the R.R. tracks XD would always hear engines been tested before taking off.
@milkymoocowmoo Thanks..... a lot for the info mate... i had a slight idea but now can understand the techinical side of it... cheerss once again... great work....
De DF8B is almost exclusively used in front of heavy freight trains. And - in my opinion - one of the best lines to see (And hear!) these in action today is the dieselized Jingpeng Pass, where they now pull 4000 tons coaltrains uphill, with only two DF8B locomotives in front, and no helpers! Tractive effort is 480 kN, power output is 3680 kW, or 5000 horsepower... :-) I'm a big fan of these locomotives... :-)
seems to be loud enough to cause the dampening compensator on the mic to come in and mute things. all i can hear is a dull rumble and the turbo. lord knows what it must have sounded like standing next to that puppy
One detail is different though: All DF11's are Qishuyan products, but only part of the DF8B's are built at Qishuyan... This engine, in the "5000" number series, is a Ziyang built engine. (DF8B's in the "0000" number series are Qishuyan products...)
Unfortunately such a beautifull machines are so hard to find at HO or N scale. Fleischmann and Roco must see outside europe every now and then. As a dutchman i've been waiting a long time to se the dutch trains on scale. And i belive it will take again a log time before we can see this nice Chinese machine on our model railways.
@Sohave Well, I guess FernandoH321 simply means that noise indicates energy-loss... The more silence, the more efficiency... And he has a point, of course... On the other hand, these seem to be very robust and very reliable engines... (Chinese diesels run without obvious problems in the very cold North, the very dusty West and the hot and humid South, and I have almost never known such a locomotive that failed...) So it seems the lack of efficiency is (partly) compensated for by reliability...
So such a sound is impossible in Hong Kong as the Lo Wu Line where intercity trains go through is a pure stop-and-go commuter line. Anyway, type 0 and type 5000 just differ in the manufacturer? Such locos are only used in those passenger services requiring frequent climbing of steep slopes just like those in the highlands in Scotland, UK.
@qj7205 Silence does not indicate efficiency. A Silencer creates back pressure on an engine and the less back pressure on a turbo charger the more efficiently it runs. The only reason for silencers on an engine is for the benefit of people living near railway lines (or roads for that matter). Do you see any silencers on large aircraft piston engines?
@FernandoH321 Not really there is ofcause a heat loss but you would also find that in a geared transmission. But they do use gears in som locomotives but that is only small switcher engines not capable of greater speeds of more than like 70 kmh. Diesel electrics are quiet common. but there are also diesel hydraulic locomotives. look that up if you are interested.
the Chinese are a bit behind when it comes to safety standards so this has that massive noise level that the pre-60s US equipment made. A classic example is the 2 stroke detroit diesel of yesteryear. Old Soviet Union equipment is the same way. Modern Chinese equipment has improved and evolved. LouGong now has US Cat engilnes for export to meet US/Can/EU requirements until they can get up to speed. Progress will eliminate the engines soon enough so enjoy while they are still here.
Definitely not the Dalian Locos 16V280ZJA as in DF4DKs and DF11s as the engine sound is very apparently different. Moreover the 16V280ZJA doesn't have such a loud and clear turbocharger note. Anyway, could the DF8B be used on those short distance stop-and-go commuter services? It seems that this model gives a faster acceleration.
@bobvdeltic Well its 480kn, a class 60 is 473kn starting TE. This thing is also over 5000hp so thats a stupid question and for someone who has a user name of something that COULDNT pull the skin off a rice pudding, probably not a good idea to throw stones!
@jpsholland There is actually a wide range of good quality Chinese models! :-) And usually not very expensive either! :-) Check out Bachmann China (They produce the DF8B, too! I own all 10 versions!), Haidar, CMR Line, and so on... :-) Send me a PM if you want to know more! :-)
