@@AtomicBuffaloonly 9 days in 2022 where they didn’t kill someone. Made up for it on the other days. Think their total was 1,232 or 1,323 either way it was that number too many.
What I want to know is what was the instigating factor in both stories for the police asking the questions? Otherwise, they just come off as cops looking to F with people, and they are in the wrong.
@A Bison I agree with the OP in that even the good cops can overreact and look foolish in the eyes of the public and the law. But , with the calls to defund the police it is usually based on a small number of cops acting illegally while performing their duties. The vast majority of police interactions that happen daily in the country happen without incident. In this day and age, you can bet that every police interaction is being recorded by one or more sources. So no, the "defund" cry is totally on the part of the woke leftist grifters trying to scam money out of public outrage using out of context and mischaracterized police interactions. Not all interactions are that way but none are sanctioned by any department when officers act illegally.
All payouts should come out of the policemes retirement fund. Not their individuals but the entire fund, maybe that would aide in them holding each other accountable.
@shawngoodell772 the problem with that is in California cities can fund the pension or the can opt to use the California public pension. California public pension includes fire fighters , teachers And state employees
As a truck driver for over 18 years who has been hassled by law enforcement while in the duties of my job. This story brings me untold amount of joy and warms my heart beyond words. This was a victory for my people. Blowing my air horn right now to celebrate 👍
He could have also been stressing about the fact they were keeping him from filling out his logbook. My dad has told me that they take that stuff seriously. Unfortunately, I suspect the muffins fell victim to Civil Asset Forfeiture. The muffins were obviously affiliated with the Mexican Drug Cartels. They needed to eat them to prove it.
Finished pumping gas at a convenience store, I put the pump handle away, and started to make my way to the convenience store. An officer then walks up to me to ask me where I was going and I told him inside the store. He proceeded to step-up to me and tell me that the gas pump was not a parking spot and that I had to move my truck "right now". In my life, I have never been in situation where an officer showed up and made things better.
On private property and you conducting a business transaction is none of his business, and the cop should have been told so. And then shared with the cop, he needs to buzz off and go prevent crimes. Real crimes, and not harassing citizens
I was arrested by when I was 16 years old by Los Angeles Sheriff Dept for answering the same question in exactly the same way. The female sheriff told me to “keep walking”. As I walked away per her orders, I voiced back “oh, you’re tough.” Apparently, that really hurt her fragile feelings because she and three other deputies tackled me, cuffed me and hauled me off to jail. Assholes don’t care if they ruin someone’s life and trample their rights.
Clintonville Pennsylvania,Chris Rapp put superglue in all the cop car locks. Way way past statute of limitations now,made the paper back in the day. He was living in the old post office building and working at the water treatment plant back in the 90's. He showed us the article.
Early 1970's. A wealthy neighborhood adjacent to the one I lived in hired a county deputy for security. My friends and I were under 18 and the city had a 11:00Pm curfew. We were in the front yard of my house. Deputy rolls up, asks what we are doing. We laughed - that pissed him off more than his "I am God" attitude that he had already. He open the back door to his patrol car and told us to get in. We laughed again. He turned red faced and started yelling for us to get in the car. My dad comes out and stands on the porch - yells out "What are you doing?" Deputy yells to my dad "I'm going to take these boys home and have a talk with their parents." Dad walks out and says "Ok, talk away." We stayed in the front yard - right at the property line for the sidewalk. Deputy then puts the pieces together and starts stumbling all over himself. Dad told him he better be On-duty, had better have a good reason other than us standing out in front of one of our homes and had better not enter private property. Deputy got a defeated look, said he will be watching us and got in his car and drove away. We got to stay out till like after 2:00Am. Deputy drove by a few times. We flipped him off each time. It was glorious.
What actually is the motivation for these nuts? We got "pulled over" ,on foot and accused and questioned by Peachtree City cops about stealing tractors. Yeah,pre teens stealing tractors. Double digit IQ's most of them.
That would have been my dad’s reaction back in the 70’s too! Parents today don’t stand up to tyrants in the schools or with a badge for their kids. It’s pathetic.
Back in the 70s and 80s everyone knew my dad, and therefor me. Oh, that's Bill kid, either it was a good thing, or a bad thing, depending. I will say though, the worst thing I had with the cops, was telling me my headlights were off once.
Back in the 70's for some reason I needed to go to the police station to get something. The cops said I needed I needed to show them a driver's license in order to a background check or whatever. So I came and filled out a form and the cop says "You live on Wedgemere Rd, do you know Andy Robustelli?" I said yes, we live 3 houses down from him. Cop gives me whatever I needed and never asked for any kind of ID.
As a retired cop, I agree 100% with you. A great many cops today have NO BUSINESS wearing badges. This truck driver's arrest is a glaring case in point!
Yep, if you’re a cop and can’t handle someone using their free speech in telling you what they think of that uniform you’re wearing, you need to find a new career.
@@GunClingingPalin you are so gullible , cops of his era were just as bad as modern cops the difference is modern cops are often videoed and their misdeeds exposed.
@@Idontanswerquestionz Such an asinine and over the top statement. I am sure you'd be the first person to call the police and expect them to protect you or help you, etc. if you needed them.
I was a retail grocery manager for some years, and I can attest to just how common this exact activity is. Usually, the back doors are locked and alarmed, and the manager is the only one with keys. Drivers will show up with a load, and sometimes you're caught up with a customer or something and can't get to the door right away to let them in. Instead of waiting, they'll walk around, get a bite to eat, use the bathroom, and walk back around and hang out until the trailer is unloaded/reloaded with empty pallets and recycle. I'm glad this man got his dues, and I'm suspect of the authority these deputies even had on private property to enforce those rules. Usually, without a written agreement to enforce them, they can't just roll up on private property and start enforcing stuff like that. Had they bothered to ask the manager on duty, I'm sure they could have cleared it up. But instead, they were on a mission, and now the taxpayers are out half a mill. Not to mention the inconvenience to the business. They now have a truck blocking the dock, and may have had to have another CDL driver shipped to the store to remove it. In my area, the distribution center was in another state 5 hours away. Good job deputies!
I've got a bunch of dealership experience with OHV's. They usually come in crates, or on a trailer that's on the semi trailer. Forklift or a travel crane is used to unload. And then the parts department might get a few pallets showing up that also needed unloaded. More than 2-3 trucks at once, and they have to wait off property. Pretty common in any business that receives actual FREIGHT to have semi's waiting to be loaded or unloaded.
My question exactly! Why were the cops patrolling private property? I had two cops in their car ask me, while I was in my car, why I was in the lot after the grocery store was closed. It was maybe 5 minutes after their posted closing time . I told them I was waiting for my wife. The senior cop (just saying because he looked older than the other cop and he was driving, but I digress) then joked by asking if I was sure that it wasn't the girlfriend I was waiting for. I did not find any amusement on any level from his humor and stonefaced repeated that I was waiting for my wife. He tried to cover up his lack of comedic ability by telling me he was just joking. I said I didn't find it funny and more to the point insulting. He wisely decided to just apologize and move on without arguing about it. I knew why he was there and watched him go car to car that had someone in it and probably ask the same question of why they were there before he got to me. He was just doing his job of making sure the people in the cars had a plausible excuse for being there and if someone was planning some criminal act, they might be deterred from committing said act. I just wanted to answer his question and then be left alone. I didn't want to be his friend or be his fan boy by thanking him for his service, like a cuck. I just wanted him to leave.
That is a slippery slope. Based on the video facts, the officers were in the wrong, but if officers have to pay or be mindful of every interaction having lawsuit potential, then response will be slower or non existent. Now, the normal response to that is, well, they should not be cops then, and then you will have a reduction in police officers everywhere. I totally agree to holding them accountable for actions but I don't think monetary will do that. Also, most officers are not the highest paid so getting restitution would be difficult.
Except that every single dollar in the depts and paid to officers is actually tax payers money. There literally is no PD or officer money that didnt come from taxpayers. Fire them and make thrm get real job and then pay!
That's the same pot of money. They might have to cut school lunch and librarians, but cutting PD budget hardly ever happens. Police has a lot of power in every town, and they stick together via the police unions that prevents even very bad cops from ever seeing consequences for actions. I am all for unions, but police unions have been a blight on justice and a guarantor for abuse a very long time now.
I've been trucking for over 40 years, this is classic truck driver. I guarantee that this wasn't this drivers first day. After a while you tend to develop a rather healthy cynicism
I drive a van, not a truck. But my back is sore, my knees are swollen and my feet are absolutely killing me after loading and unloading the back of it three or four times a day. I know how quickly someone can go from having a good day to totally losing their cool. It's usually something mundane and annoying as the last straw. Being asked what you're doing in a place where you are obviously supposed to be is one of those last straws.
@@Xbox360mIRC You can drive a city bus without a CDL?! I'd expect that to need something stronger than a CDL, not less - after all, you're transporting people, not apples.
They're all human. Some are good, some are bad. Call out the bad ones, praise the good ones. The issue comes when training is inadequate and/or the bad ones aren't booted or charged.
@@kstricl That's very true. But thanks to Qualified Immunity and strong police unions, the bad ones are getting away without being booted or charged more often.
The police have no problem continuing to give Steve Lehto all the content he needs to keep his channel going for decades to come. They are truly the gift that keeps on giving.
Even railroaders love this story. Still remember my dad stating. "Giving a badge and gun to some people like giving a fur coat to a monkey. After a while the monkey thinks he's King Kong".
The problem, Steve, is that "Officers" are never held personally responsible = the TAXPAYERS are. ...one way to solve this abuse of badges is to make officers carry personal insurance - they pay out of pocket for their gross misconduct when they get sued.
We'd still end up paying for that insurance though. Better way would be to put it into law that at a certain point they can no longer hold a job in law enforcement. And that goes all the way up the ladder
I have a different thought. Cities pay projected liabilities into the pension fund. But then all liability claims come out of that pension fund, not out of legal funds. There are good cops and bad cops. Problem is the good cops won't cross that thin blue line and stand up for what is right. JUST WATCH when their pension takes a hit due to bad cops. Just watch that blue line break and bad cops weeded out.
Just exactly How many people's lives did you RUIN?, How many reports did you embellish/ lie on?, How many times have you lied to everybody?,10's of thousands?, How many and how much money have you extorted from innocent people?, How many people have you COLD BLOODEDLY MURDERED? You did have Qualified Immunity.
As a truck driver, I had a similar thing happen to me in GA. Except in my case it was a lieutenant... my truck broke down on a 2 lane rd and I moved it over as far as I could with my hazards on. After about 3 hours the Lt. walked up to me and proceeded to yell at me that I couldn't park there because it was a safety hazard... I then looked directly at said Lt and said " gee officer, if I had the ability to pick and choose WHERE my truck was gonna break down, do you REALLY think I would WILLINGLY CHOOSE to break down on a 2 lane rd, in GA, with no cell phone service?🤷♂️ The cop looked at me, thought about it for a second, and said " well, probably not." Then he proceeded to call me a wrecker to tow me ASAP, and since it was cold, let me warm up in the front seat of his car... to this day, it's the ONLY time I spent time in the FRONT seat of a cop car😏
The drivers mistake was not offering a muffin to the cops. perhaps he didn't bother because their heads were too far up their @sses to be able to eat one.
@@northgrave oh and the ones from Winco (the store he was delivering to) has some of the best freaking lemon poppy and blueberry muffins I’ve ever eaten lol. They’re about the size of 8 cupcakes lol.
We had an officer that would kick us off the school playground for playing basketball and other games on weekends. We just did as we were told in the 60s. One day after getting told to go home a neighbor asked us what that officer said to us. The neighbor was good friends with the chief of police. We were never kicked off the playground again.
Back when people stuck up for each other, and any parent in the neighborhood could punish you for your bad behavior. Some things were much better then, unfortunately many people did not change with the times and it has caused a lot of trouble.
I am an older man. My respect for LEO at the town and county level has been greatly reduced over time. It seems that those bottom law enforcement positions are often little dictators looking for people they can lord over. The facts and law mean nothing to them.
There was a study done on law enforcement officers. It found that not all LEO were bullies, but childhood bullies were attracted to being cops. It found that the cops with the most complaints were bullies in high school and/or Jr high school.
@poolenudel8453 I live in a very rural area. The closest town's population is only 1200 now. When I was a child in the 1950s, it was under 500 people. This had an effect of the local LEOs being of a higher quality for several reasons. 1) Everyone knew each other. That helped on both sides of law enforcement. The LEO was known and the LEO knew who he was dealing with. 2) Also a lot of the LEOs in that time frame where WWII veterans. Many of them had been is some real heavy combat. They did not need to prove themselves to anyone as they had already face death and won, so to speak.
@Poole Nudel it depends on the color of your skin, your parents level of respect for LEO, when you were born, and where you grew up. I grew up white, in a middle class suburb in the 70s, and my dad's only probably with LEO was getting speeding tickets or having to slip Chicago PD officers a $20. I had some respect because I knew most of the cops. There were a few assholes that I could see doing something violent. Now I see it as "there are no good cops if you're protecting bad cops".
I would be terrified by some random truck driver walking toward a truck carrying a manifest on a clipboard. Who knows what dangerous things he could do with that deadly weapon! 🤔...🙄🙄🙄
My son tried to get into Law Enforcement for several years, but basically was refused because he wasn't aggressive enough. He's now a postal carrier and we are so glad he never made it into the other job.
I know people who switched from city police to county sheriff for the reason that city police start to develop an antagonistic culture against their local citizens. Probably because most of the citizens they encounter tend to have an antagonistic culture against the police. Sheriffs Dept. tend to be a bit more chill, and since the sheriff is an elected position they can be a bit more directly accountable to the public rather than loosely accountable to a city's government that changes every few years.
When I was a taxi owner/operator a police officer threatened to charge another driver with vagrancy for parking in the corner of a public parking lot where we waited for calls. Vagrancy means no visible means of support. A taxi is a fairly visible means of support.
A friend of mine was charged with Vagrancy in Seattle because his ID had expired the day before and he didn't have at least $2 in his pocket. He did have a check for over $10000 in his wallet. But, he was charged really for being "a wiseass"
I am a truck driver. This happens frequently. We often make deliveries where the warehouse people have not arrived. The Police see us and ask us what we are doing. We are waiting for the warehouse people to arrive. Some Police Officers do not understand that we are making a delivery and assume we are engaging in some sort of suspicious behavior behavior.
$500k is not enough. The officer or officers that unlawfully arrested this man must be charged, prosecuted and thrown into prison!! This is getting ridiculous!
A guy I used to work with was in a bar with his wife one night. He came back from the restroom to find "Leisure Suit Larry" hitting on his wife, who was very uncomfortable. The guy told the douchebag to back off and leave his wife alone. Next thing he knows, he's on the floor handcuffed. Douchebag was a cop. Don't remember the exact outcome, but he never got an apology and douchebag didn't face any sort of discipline. In my small circle of middle-class friends and acquaintances, I know more people who have had highly unpleasant "run-ins" with bad cops than who have been victims of violent crime.
I've never once had anything but antagonistic encounters with the pigs. Not one of them has ever approached me with politeness. It's all just dick swinging for them. There is no such thing as a good cop. Even the ones who aren't A-holes will still stick up for the ones that are A-holes. If you allow evil to persist when you have the ability to stop it, you are also evil. Period.
Jackass was disrespecting the hell out of a woman in a local bar that I frequented when I was fresh out of the service and in my early 20's. This was a pretty big guy and a tiny little woman who looked half his age. I ordered my drink and as I turned to walk away I told him that if he grew a pair meet me out back or was acting like an ass to women his true speed. As I made my way towards the exit door there was two out of state local cops sitting at the table. Both of them knew me well. The older one asked if I realized the rude dude was a State Police officer from their state. I replied nope but he is about to learn which side of the state line he is drinking and making an ass of himself on though. Big boy walked around behind the bar and ended up sleeping it off in our local jail. He wasn't happy with the lump on his head the next morning. But what could he do. my buddy from high school was the deputy that picked his out cold self up from in the alley and drove him to jail. Just because he carried a badge did not make much difference once he crossed the State line. 10 years later that jackass got arrested for molesting a minor. So no I don't feel bad about checking his attitude that night.
Had the same thing happen to my wife. I walked in and told the guy to back off. Got all up in my fa e until his friend pulled him back. Still don't understand the do you know who I am argument.
Regarding your pizza story. I am sadly related to one of the worst cops to ever wear a badge. That said, he once told me that the quickest way to receive unwanted attention from law enforcement is to "look like you're having fun". This has proven to be a very true statement.
I heard the same from many navy veterans. Stay out of sight. The sonar room is good because it is insulated from sound and the doors are locked. Propeller shaft alley is another good place to catch some Z's
@@sd906238 I concur with the above statement. Sometimes being in sight on a ship works even better. Walking around a ship "with purpose" gets you ignored. Rudder room was always nice and warm also.
This is precisely why I grin or smile and shake my head when I deal with or find myself confronted by the thugs in uniform. 1. It irritates the heck out of them 2. what they don't know and what I never divulge is I do this because I pity them. True story - you see... one would have to be a seriously damaged individual enduring such mental agony that you need to dress up in a costume and go accuse, or frame, maim or murder someone who you don't even know for a damn paycheck. !!
@@bruceayers512 In the corporate world, always carry paperwork so you don’t look like you’re just walking around. One job I had, I often carried a clipboard when going from zone to zone so it looked like I was busy instead of just going to visit my coworker. 😂
If you've ever had a couple of cops decide that having $300.00 in your wallet COULD BE for a drug purchase... then take it from you!! Glib would be way down on your list of responses. Don't think Civil Asset Forfeiture couldn't happen to you!
Yeah, forget the waiting for loading/unloading. what if he hit his hours and had to wait at the store before he can get back on the road? Jesus, makes me worried for my dad even more.
2 stories from my youth. 1st, went to a bowling alley with a group of friends after church one evening. Place was packed, so we turned around and left. Walked out to our cars and were discussing where else we could go. Police/security came out from inside and told us to quit loitering, get in our cars and leave. Didn't want to hear an excuse about looking for somewhere else to go. So we left, and never went back to that bowling alley again. 2nd. Couple years later, I'm a manager at a roller skating rink. Just locked up and me and a couple of friends were standing out on the porch chatting when the local PD pulled up and griped about us loitering (there was a no loitering sign right above us). Showed him when I unlocked the door and we all just walked back inside leaving him standing by his car.
Story 2, this is why community policing is important, Bet that cop never once came in and buy a cold pop, shoot the breeze with the workers and manager. Thank them for the cold pop. Then that Night he comes pulling in acting all high and mighty, instead of lifting his jaw off the ground, (when you unlocked went inside) , he could have said, "Hi Cheeto4493 is going ok?" you could have responded ,, "Everything Fine". or "Need some help here"
I worked at a relatively hippy pizza and craft beer place that gave a ten percent discount to any public safety employees who came in wearing their uniforms, or got takeout, and we would often fully comp deliveries to their police/fire station, hospital etc. The amount of good-will you get back in return is amazing, even the delivery drivers got a little more leeway on the road when the cops got free or discounted food.
I had the cops stop and ask me what I was doing once when I was standing in front of a school. It was evening, and I was in a residential area. I pointed at the sign I was standing next to and said, "waiting for the bus". You'd think it would be obvious when you're at a bus stop, wouldn't you? This was in Orange County, CA (I won't name the city). I was then interrogated as to where I was going, what time the bus was coming, etc. Apparently I just looked suspicious. I was on my way to work. I was working a night shift at the time. One of many interactions with police that has made me never trust them.
Police officers get paid to waste your time, it's called "fishing". If they can't find anything they'll try to get you to keep talking long enough for them to arrest you on something. That's why it's a good idea to just never talk to police.
That's a great story. Back in my youth I used to get harassed by the local police for simply walking/jogging/biking at night. Usually from my friend's house to mine. When the cops used to stop me and ask "what are you doing"? I would also reply "walking." Of course, I didn't know better and after they demanded my ID I would hand it over. When biking or jogging and they'd ask the same question, I'd reply "biking" or "jogging" depending on what I was doing. Then they'd follow up with "why"? I'd say "because it's faster than walking" then they'd demand my ID again. The police are the enemy of the people.
@@MagicHamsta They are, obviously, looking for a guilty person exhibiting signs of a guilty person who has done something wrong. The problem is when they THINK they found a/some guilty person/people and don't find any signs or evidence of a crime. That's when they may start fabricating shit and being corrupt assholes. Pulling over and asking what a person is doing? Perfectly fine.
@@contumelious-8440 there’s a list floating around the internet somewhere of every single behavior that police have testified in court constitutes suspicious behavior. Among many others, the list includes looking at police, not looking at police, making eye contact, avoiding eye contact, driving over the speed limit, driving under the speed limit, driving exactly at the speed limit, being agitated when talking to a cop, being calm when talking to a cop, being serious, making jokes, tapping fingers, keeping their fingers still, and living in/working in/just passing through any area that has any crime at all in it. Or put another way, there is no human behavior whatsoever that police don’t find so incredibly suspicious they immediately detain the person doing it.
I no longer live in CA, however I have lived in LA County, San Diego, Alameda, Santa Clara and Ventura Counties. I was a disaster service volunteer for 30+ years. These stories warm my heart. Law enforcement officers take on a Duty and Responsibility. They are given limited authorities, not absolute or dictatorial powers.
It'd because of this F&*&*&*&ing *QUOTA* system the police have: a quota for arrests, a quota for fines, a quota for citations. It's just how this F*&*&*&*&&*ed-up police force works. Only in America. The police department INSTRUCTS them to fulfill their quota of arrests, etc. That's why every dumb cop in the country seizes every slight excuse to arrest someone, and generally make life Hell for ordinary people.
My cousin and I were fishing at a pond when we were kids and an officer pulled up and asked us what we were doing. My cousin, in the most dead pan voice ever, responded, "We're drowning worms." We were on private property, but we had permission. We explained it to the cop and he left, but still, the greatest response ever.
@David Ivey - if I was the coo I would have laughed my ass off. I remember when me and my friends were like 14 or 15, well none of us were old enough to have our license yet anyways, we had the great idea to go for a joyride in his moms car while she was gone. We drove around for hours. Stopped by another friends house, and told him to come with us. His reply “No. you guys are idiots and your gonna get pulled over.” We left his house not 5 blocks later, BAM! Red and blues. Lol. As soon as we pulled over my friend driving said “Shit. I forgot to turn the headlights back on.” The cop comes up asks what we were doing, we said we were just leaving our friends house.Then he asked if we knew why he pulled us over. My friend said yea he forgot to turn the headlights on. Then asks for our license… he said he didn’t have it. Then he asked my other buddy, and he didn’t have it either. He looks back at me and I said nope. So he asks what the hell we were out doing driving around with no license, and we told him we were just wanting to learn to drive. He tells us he is going to follow us back to his moms house. When we went to take off, he stalled the car (it was a manual transmission). Then he started it back up and he stalled it again. Third time was the charm though. Haha. We get back to his house, and thankfully his mom wasn’t home. He lectured us about driving without our license and told us “Here you are out driving without a license and you can’t drive for shit!” He said he was gonna come back in the morning and talk to his mom. He never did though. We told her all about it the next morning thogh. Some cops are really cool. Some are asses. Just like any other population of people. The asses get more attention that the good ones
@@aerofart You have never been fishing before have you? Haha. There is no “attempted” about it. Those worms are toast well before a fish gets them. Either when the hook tears holes all through their body, or when you throw them in the water and drown their ass.
As a trucker I am really happy to see one of my fellow drivers standing up for their rights! And I love his question to the officer, it’s something I’m likely to say! Some truckers like myself have no filter! 😂 Thank you for sharing this I’m sharing it with everyone I know including Muthertrucker News!
The reason a lot of truckers don't have mouth filters is that they wear out within the first million miles and you can't get replacement parts at Loves or Flying J.
I used to work for the AZAFIS section (fingerprint section) at Arizona's Dept of Public Safety (DPS, state police) and I learned something interesting. My job took me into most of the jails in the state maintaining the fingerprint scanner equipment and I learned that most if not all the agencies give IQ tests before hiring officers. The surprising part is that they were not being tested to make sure that their IQ was HIGH enough! Supposedly people with higher IQ don't make good officers because they tend to not follow orders to the letter and they get bored doing stakeouts, guard or traffic duty, and foot canvasing. Quite literally, officers are only hired if they have a LOW enough IQ, at least in AZ. This is appalling but it makes sense.
That's pretty common in alot of places. The powers that be don't want an intelligent highly educated workforce either.there afraid of bring overthrown.
As a Marine stationed in Yuma (for 9 total years) and working with the Sheriff's office plus local police, I can Agree with the Above statement from Mike. Some of the Deputies where Retired Marines and should have stayed Retired.
I just went to my mirror with 2 muffins in my hand and tried my best to do a a fighting stance but I just laughed at myself and said "You're not tough with those damn muffins"
Real men don't fight with throwing stars and brass knuckles, they fight with muffins. Saw off a muffin top and you can zing that thing like a throwing star. Might scratch someone's cornea.
When I was about 10, I was fishing in a small town when one of the two police officers drives up, get's out of the car, and then asks me if I knew I was on private property. I replied that I did because my grandmother is the owner and then informed him he was trespassing. He was not entertained by that answer, but then he let me be. I figured he should know better seeing as my great-grandfather developed the area and I had been fishing there for years.
Why did the police officer at all bother? Had anyone complained about trespassing? Did he really have nothing else better to do just idling around bothering others? I think that it is the property owner, not the police, that should take action in the first place. Then the bear could react. That is at least how it is in Denmark.
The only time I had trouble with the cops was in the scales. One guy threatened to shut me down for 8 hours because my dispatcher kept using the "alert" feature on the Nextel. Finally, I had to tell him, "I'm standing here with the radio in my hand, just key the mic, I'll respond." Another one held me up for an hour because his computer told him the company I was driving for, Hughes Pool Supply, hauled fruits and vegetables. A little flippantly I said, "Well, your computer is wrong, you know how they are!" I had my delivery manifest, which showed I had done deliveries to 5 swimming pool supply stores in Kentucky and Ohio. It was literally written on the truck, Hughes Pool Supply.
Was watching an episode of FSC Trucking on YT. Guy hauls oversized loads on a drop flatbed around the country. Hauled a Fire Truck to Jacksonville FL & had to go through the FL Agricultural Inspection Station.
@@jamessimms415 we all do sometimes. I did flatbed for 6 years. I've been stopped with steel coils. There's a slim bit of legitimacy because if invasive species.
@waltstrait5807 You hauled what your dispatcher said you were picking up. We only delivered swimming pool supplies to our customers, retail pool supply stores and installers. We weren't for hire.
Wow, as a truck driver, I found that very entertaining. Remember when the cruisers had printed on the sides "Protect and Serve" Now it says "Catch and Collect" :)
There has never been a legal duty to "protect" or "serve." That was a slogan that some PR hack came up with in LA back in the 1950s. I think it should be removed from any and all police vehicles on the grounds of false advertising.
Oh, you get "served" all right. But the courts ruled that cops have no legal duty to protect you. This was in response to an incident where a bunch of NYC transit cops witnessed a woman being (can't say it on RU-vid) and did nothing because they were on their break.
Awesome story. As a truck driver I’ve had so many interactions with police that have that god complex. So many times I’ve wanted to say exactly what he did while dealing with them. I once had a Seattle police officer accuse me of trying to steal lumber off a truck (my truck) while I was in the middle of delivering to a hardware store that was right down town. Apparently he was new and didn’t understand why we would need to be delivering at 4am in downtown Seattle
If he didn't understand _that,_ then he was likely transferred in from somewhere more rural and for bad behaviour over there. No one trust that guy to even operate a Jimmy Hat properly!
I worked at a lumber yard in upstate New York and I can confirm that deliveries to the yard was always in the early morning hours. Now I don't know about this Seattle lumber yard but the one I worked at had a tiny parking lot in the front, narrow driveway down the side of the retail building to where lumber would be delivered, and a narrow entrance to the lot off of a two lane road on a incline just beforea railway crossing. They delivered in the early morning hours because it could sometimes take a few minutes to maneuver the truck into the lot because not only was the entrance narrow but on the side of the direction that they had to come from there was small wall so dang close to the drive that it gets hit often as is, if they was to try delivering during the busy time of the day not only would they end up holding up the traffic on a vary busy road heading in/out of the village and would even risk the potential of causing an accident with a train should one come because even tho you shouldn't stop on the tracks people still do. So yea early morning deliveries are definitely a thing, for alot of companies aswell not just lumber yards.
I drove tractor trailers for 25 years delivering to Winn Dixie stores. Our drivers had countless encounters with law enforcement officers similar to the facts of this case. More commonly though we encountered cops parked in front of and blocking the delivery docks. One time in Jacksonville the cops refused to move their vehicles that were blocking the delivery docks. They only moved after a lengthy argument with the Store Manager. Then the same cops waited for the driver to leave so they could stop him and issue bogus tickets for running a stop sign and failure to use turn signals.
Remember the stories we heard people tell us and we thought they weren’t telling the story correctly and maybe embellished? I think we can safely say those stories were very likely true.
"Is it hard to breath with your head that far up your ass" will be the new anthem repeated by everyone involved in a wrongful arrest from this point forward. Thanks Steve!
@@pauls5745 I'm sure they were full-size muffins. WinCo makes the best muffins ever; ain't no truck driver going to skip out on that goodness by getting baby muffins. Cop probably just wanted to butter that muffin himself.
I have a good Truck Driver story for your channel ! I was an over the road truck driver and i was making a large delivery of Electronics to a large electronics store. I had an early appointment to deliver the load i had on board . When i got to the large store the lights were on inside so i backed my semi truck and trailer into the unloading dock and then walked back around to the front doors of the store. I looked thru the window to see if i could see someone to let them know i was there for my unload. I tried the front door and it was locked so i went back to my truck and started filling out my log book and paperwork. A few minutes later i heard a loud siren going off and thought it was a fire alarm. The next thing i knew there were multiple police cruisers making circles around the building one right after the other. Then a female police officer parked about 15 feet in front of my truck and started looking at me and talking on her radio. This went on for several minutes and after about 10 minutes i got out of my truck and walked over to the female officers vehicle to ask what was going on. She instantly jumped out and pulled her gun and told me to put my hands on the hood of her car. She asked me what i was doing there and i told her waiting to get unloaded. She asked me if i tried to break into the building and i laughed and said why would i do that when i have thousands of dollars worth of electronic equipment to deliver there. LOL Wow i said and she asked me again the same question. She got on her radio and then two more police officers pulled around and started asking me more questions. After some time they finally listened to me and let me prove to them that i was telling the truth. I was afraid that i was going to be shot by the way they were acting. I promise you that his is something that i will never forget for the rest of my life.
Re-asking the same questions or shouting the same orders is a red flag. The cop is in cognitive lock, and no longer recognizes reality and is likely to panic and may shoot at the slightest provocation. Sometimes cops are not lying when they can't explain why the body-cam video doesn't match their story.
Tell the whole story though, Steve. He was probably eating his muffins in a _suspicious manner._ Maybe he licked them first. You know how those muffin-lickers are.
@@RobDucharme WTF? What kind of perverted monster doesn't eat the muffin top? We're gonna have to beat him into submission until he can explain himself to my satisfaction.
Yes! that's exactly what i was thinking too! Now I'm wondering about the San Bernardino County supervisors. I wonder what happens to them at election time? If they get reelected then shame on the citizens of San Bernardino County!
They don't like to admit wrongdoing, they Are the "law"! Also if they're convicted it becomes excessively difficult to prove your innocence, so once they do wrong the One way out Scott free is a conviction.
I am a truck driver. Had a fellow truck driver where I work now as my trainer for a few weeks. This story sounds so much like things he would say/answer to such questions. "Walking." Re: the difference between walking & loitering. And "Is it hard to breathe with your head so far up your ass?" Classic. Great story!
Strange but true story, several years ago a "detective" on the sheriff's dept. was running for sheriff and came to talk to a group of us. He said that he had been a detective for several years on the dept. and was running for sheriff to help improve our community. He tried to get us to believe that it wasn't about income and said " I don't even know how much the sheriff gets for a salary" ! I told a buddy "He must be some detective that he doesn't know the salary of the office, which is public knowledge!" Makes you wonder why?
I was a State Policeman for 15 years and retired early after I was hurt. When our business bellied up, I drove big-truck, cross country, for 25 years, I wasn't shot at, but I was "Shit at and Hit" many times. Why didn't something like this ever happen to me? I could be on "Easy Street" now, if I had been that lucky.
As an Apple Valley resident I can confirm this is normal behavior for our local police I was recently questioned for cleaning a garage. Same story as here minus the arrest. Police: what are you doing Me: do you have eyes
Meanwhile the guy cleaning the garage on the next block was actually cleaning it out because he’s a burglar. Try not taking everything so personal. If it had been a burglar rather than you, would you have wanted the cop to just ignore him?
"I'm baking a meringue." "I'm skinning an aardvark." "I'm teaching a class in advanced robotics." One you likely shouldn't use: "I'm talking to an idiot."
I have said before that I believe - instead of taxpayers having to pay settlements like these - departments should be forced to get insurance policies very much like trucking companies do. Insurance companies will need to be provided with each officer's service record, complaints, disciplinary history, etc. and insurance companies will very quickly weed out the "high risk" officers (or charge extremely high premiums for those officers.) There will be accountability in that if an officer gets too many complaints/infractions, they will be uninsurable and unemployable.
You know I believe that would actually work. Insurance companies really don't like paying out if they can avoid it, especially if their customer is at fault. The simplest solution is to get rid of the customer. Checks and balances do work when your own money is involved. With tax payers money, not so much.
I have said this all the time takeaway immunity make the officer pay for his/her own insurance and when the claims go up the Insurance will refuse to cover them then perhaps (doubtful because they are so frigging stupid) they might think more about arresting someone for stupid reasons
I agree, but believe that it should be more similar to professional malpractice insurance, such as medical or legal malpractice insurance. I also believe that everyone working in law enforcement needs to have a law degree, with a specialization in enforcement that includes ethics and temperament, along with passing a state law enforcement exam similar to the type that lawyers do. If we had a competent and effective police force, we would need fewer cops and could pay them more, thus attracting better qualified people, instead of some of the most power hungry bullies from the bottom of the heap. I knew someone who told me he became a cop so that he could get away with giving people a hard time. He didn't use such nice language.
Why should we pay police to pay insurance to protect their officers from breaking the law. Police officers should be required to pay for the insurance to protect themselves.
The man's employer should also sue for having their business interrupted and any lost product from sitting in the truck. That would teach cops not to harass employees.
But Steve, those deputies obviously thought the truck driver was a member of a gang that's been committing a lot of robberies lately using exactly that ruse. The lookout walks around holding a clipboard to make it look like he's working, and he usually eats a muffin while he's at it. They've become known as the Muffin Men, and they've been a particular problem around the Drury Lane area.
I used to be an owner operator and specialized in time sensitive and temperature controlled transport to and from Alaska. When crossing into Canada from Alaska the Canadian Border agent asked me if I was loaded or empty. I replied empty. The next question from the border agent was: What you mean by empty? I asked him if that was a trick question. He looked pissed and his coworker busted out laughing.
LIKE ANY COUNTRY! THE NEED TO RE-FILL TAXPAYING SQUIRRELS AS A METHODOLOGY FOR MILITARY AGRESSION'S TO CITIZEN FEARS OF OTHERS, NEEDS EMPLOYENT FUNDING. HE ( THE PISSED GOT THE PROMOTION ). COULDA SAID? IN THE VERNACULAR? OR PHONIC? mt?
I’m told by my state trooper friend that many deputy types are basically mall cops as far as their training, but are virtually untouchable as far as their authority. 🤷♂️
My favorite interaction with a cop. I was a firefighter. We gone on a mutual aid call to a nearby district for a large fire. Around 3:00 AM we head back to our station. We still have work ahead of us, replace the hoses used, clean and hang the dirty hoses, clean and service all the equipment used, all to get the engine and crew ready for the next run. Driving through a neighboring town, well known for speed traps, I see blue lights behind the engine I'm driving. I pull to the side to let him by... he stops behind me... I'm thinking he spotted something loose on the engine. He walks up to the drivers side, "I got you for 28 in a 25!" I look over at my officer, a huge WTF on his face. I looked down at the officers, now remember I've just spent 12 hours working hard at a fire and still have several hours of work to go and no sleep. I'm tired, thirsty and hungry. Not a time to be a petty tyrant with me. I look down and the cop and said, "We have to this engine in service, come to the station to write us up." I then drove off. He never came to the station.
I’ve done the same thing in an ambulance. We were on the way home. The cop pulled us over for speeding on the way to the hospital with our lights on. We had a pediatric patient swirling the drain. I had my foot through the floor on that one. I drove off when he tried that bs. He followed us to the county line with his lights and sirens on. Three sheriff’s and a state trooper were waiting for him at the border. He didn’t make it to our station to give me the ticket.
I once got surrounded by three cop cars while setting in a mall parking lot. It was after the mall had closed. I was in the parking lot to meet my friend's parents. They were supposed to meet us there so he could finish riding home with them and they were late. The male officer asked me what I was doing. I said I was waiting for my friend's parents to show up. The officer countered with. "Likely story". So a female officer stepped up and asked the same question. I responded with, "I am an alien from another planet, I just go here and was learning to drive in the parking lot." To which nobody laughed. I finished with, "I told you the truth and you didn't believe me so I figured I would tell you a story." I am so lucky that I didn't go to jail that night. Or maybe unlikely. I might be the recipient of 500,000.
Great video! My dad was in the US Air Force for 23+ years... whenever people tell him that they need to "See some ID" he gives them his Commercial Japanese Driving license... no explanation, no smile, just deadpan & hands it over. The card has his picture on it, has most of the relevant data {BDay, height, weight, hair color, & eye color (because of his "non-resident" status it says he's exempt from needing to have an address on it)}, and it is completely written in Japanese! The looks on people's faces... I nearly roll on the floor every time. If they then ask for "a US ID," then he hands them his (federal) Dept of Defense ID card... which trumps any state ID (and also does not have his address on it)... and it still annoys people. He used to hand over his fishing license for the brainiacs who asked for "a US-issued state license," but now that he's over 65, he's exempt from needing that in our state, so haven't seen what he's been doing recently.
No crime committed, not in a "stop & identify" state, not driving at the time, no ID. Period. If an LEO feels hee/she needs to push thee issue, they will find out soon enough that come good citizens have the financial wherewithal to pursue a legal response, at the appropriate time, that will become painful for them personally, and their department. Sometimes it just does not pay to get all puffy with private citizens, some of us do not just roll over, shake & quiver, and play to role of a scaredy cat. That said, it is best to not do anything that causes an avoidable situation arise to begin with.
Being a truck driver gets you REAL familiar with police officers. I went in for any interview at an aircraft manufacturer to get off the road. The recruiter/interviewer asked how many times I'd been pulled over in the last year. I told him probably sixty, maybe more, because I was driving an end dump running rock and sand out of quarries and you're constantly being pulled over, sometimes multiple times in a week, by DOT with scales in their truck. Interview was over instantly because they didn't want somebody that would get pulled over that much. Guess they thought I was doing something wrong even though out of all those times I was legal every time and never got a ticket. I learned right then to never be completely honest in a job interview, just say what they want to hear.
DAMNED!! !! THERE IS NOW VACANCIES PLUS FOR $175,000+ PER YEAR PERKS OF OFFICE FOR THAT! THOSE!! ABILITIES IN AN ANIT-PROGRESS CON-PUBLICLY THE US CONGRESS.
I came back, after hundreds of more videos, I NEEDED to see this again! To see this refreshed me, so many cops, being so bad! we all need to know sometimes they pay for it
Delivered a tail end at Home Depot in Manteca (grape poles) and due to drop rest of deck at Conklin in Oakdale (cattle guards). While the clerk was signing my bills a city officer blocked the front of my truck and proceeded to write me a ticket for being out of route AND not having a valid CDL. He had yet to even ask for my license. I called the U.S. Marshall's office and refused to sign the ticket until help arrived. Chief, two more squad cars, and a sheriff's deputy . . . plus my Marshalls. The cop reasoned that I must have counterfeited my license because as a woman I would not be allowed to pull flatbed. (and solo at that)
They arrested him, spent the night in jail. Another driver had to be sent to recover the truck that was blocking the dock at the store. The driver, being arrested probably got fired. Now this happened in 2019 so he was potentially not able to be a truck driver for almost 4 years! $500,000 was WAY to small of a settlement. He also now has an arrest record.
He could have petitioned the court at the lawsuit to find him “factually innocent” and have arrest record expunged. And if he got fired, he could easily have won that suit as well. Hopefully his employers were in the suit as co-plaintiffs, as they certainly would have had monetary losses as well.
Steve, thank you for this great story ! I have a good one for you. A few Months ago, while driving home from work on route 40 in Silver Springs , Florida. I stopped to get gas, and when done, returned to state road 40. There was a stop sign and I did slow down...but kinda of rolled through the stop sign, albeit at a very slow speed. As soon as I made a right to get back on st road 40, I saw a Marion county Sheriff parked on the side of the road looking directly at me. Needless to say, his red and blue lights got activated immediately. I pulled over, rolled my window down, hands on the wheel and the deputy asked me for my papers. After handing him the paperwork, he asked me the following " Did you see the stop sign? " I replied, " Yes Sir, I did see the stop sign. What I did not see was you !". He started laughing, like he just heard the best joke ever. He gave me back my papers and let me go !. I can still remember seeing him walk away laughing. A deputy with a great sense of humor . They do exist after all. Abe D
I think he appreciated both your HONESTY, and your comedic talent. 😂. I have gotten out of many tickets in my life, just being honest, and copping to what I did, or not actually knowing how fast I was going, and that I could have been going, and most importantly, SHOULD NOT have been going, as fast as they clocked me at. Never did have a good line like that come to me though! 😂
LETS REMEMBER THE MAIL ORDERED BRIDE ON HER BUGGY RIDE TO HER NEW HOME. AFTER THE HORSE STUMBLES A 3RD TIME, WHICH THE FIRST TWO TIMES THE OWNER COUNTS..1-2- ON THE THIRD! SHOOTS THE HORSE DEAD! WHA??? SAYS THE NEW MAIL ORDER BRIDE..WHA????? THE NEW HUSBAND-SHOOTER SAYS; "THAT'S ONCE!"
I met a Texas State Trooper with a sense of humor. It was a cold, drizzling rain day and the trooper pulled me over. He asked me the ridiculous question, "Sir, do you know why I stopped you?" Me: "No sir, I don't. I wasn't speeding and had made no improper lane changes. " Him: "Sir, your inspection sticker is expired." Me, turning to my wife: "This is YOUR car, it ought to be YOUR ticket." Him, laughing out loud: "Just get it taken care of and drive carefully."
I lived in San Bernardino county and was glad to get the heck out of there. It brings joy to hear that they lost $500,000. If only I knew how much this will cost every person in the county, it would really "make my day". The fact that SB County took this all the way to a jury trial shows they are out of touch with the people they are supposed to serve.
They didn't take it to a jury trial. They let him go. He sued them to take it to a jury. I guess you could say they should have settled before that but they have lawyers on the payroll already, why not go to trial?
@@wingracer1614 so they did let it go to a jury trial rather than settle earlier in the process. County should have looked at this case on day one and gotten the checkbook out.
I am surprised this was not settled before court, jury, etc but if I was on the Jury I would of been arguing for a greater sum to be awarded all round the initial 375000 should have been at least a million dollars
The unfortunate part of this story is that the settlement will come out of taxpayers' pockets. The officers in question might be reprimanded, but they won't be held personally liable.
This needs to change! When cops violate your rights they should be held personally responsible for damages. This would weed out the assholes cops pretty quick.
Same here. The push to lower standards to “better reflect the community” did no favors to the community and law enforcement. The bar was lowered, along with expectations for selection, training and supervision. It’s a shame because out of around half a million cops in America, the relative few make the biggest negative impression and get the coverage.
@@ithinkaboutthings9052 It never had anything to do with the community. Since the 1970, police have capped the IQ of hires at 105 to 110. That precludes hiring anyone who would be considered " bright ". The theory being that " smart " people will just get bored with the job and leave. Over the decades the candidate pool for promotion was filled with dull people. It is quit normal for those cops to totally miss they were talking to the driver of the big truck park in plain view. That is too many variables for them to process.
Bull,,,,they are always there,,they just were not caught by todays video and audio recordings,,,,95% of them are the same if not worst,,,I am confident that the day will come for holding the blue clowns accountable for their crimes,,,and if you disagree with me all you have to do is look at the reputation of the blue clown/gang,, it smells worst than a two week rotten egg.
Steve, you've made my day. I'm a bank customer service rep, and you can only imagine how many times I'm going to have suppress the urge to laugh when I think about that statement.
