If the Treaty of Versailles felt like a slap to the face to the German people then the Treaty of Sevres must have felt like extensive torture to the Turks. If they had accepted this treaty it would have been nothing short of complete humiliation with losing all this territory and being reduced to a rump state.
@Nick Nack we're seeing this repeated endlessly since. Look at Yugoslavia. Russia would have ended up the same. First turn it into the 'Sick man of Europe', impoverish the population further, extract as much wealth as possible, deny taxes to the state, social fabric collapses further and then come in for the final blow: a 'peace treaty'.
@Nick Nack not really. The Soviet Union maybe but the Russian Empire survived in much the same long standing borders. The USSR would be the equivalent of the Ottoman vilayets outside Anatolia. That breakup pretty much happened before Sevres. The plan to breakup Russia was still in the foreign ministries of western powers. I'm ashamed at how naive I was when seeing the events unfold back then. I still remember, over a decade ago, when the US and British media echo chamber whipping up a manufactured secession attempt in Siberia for a week. It fizzled hilariously and was buried ignominiously as a non historical flop. They must be trying the same in the far east after the arrest of the governor on murder charges. The imperial manual is pretty much well developed at this point. Should history mention geopolitics? or does it become a dangerous foray in politics and opinion at that point? It's so repetitive that it begs the question.
Yep as an albanian I say they did the right thing not accepting this humiliation. We albanians accepted the shameful treaty of london and because of that 2.2 million out of 5 million albanians live outside albania‘s borders to this very day. Well done turkey 🇹🇷.
Basically was the excuse for Britain and France to carve up their spheres for influence at middle east while Greece and Italy was fighting for control over Eastern Mediterranean..
""(...) but the Treaty of Sevres would soon proof to be as fragile as the porcelain displayed around it." best description of the Treaty of Sevres ever...
Central Anatolian desert? Central Anatolian steppe, that is. C. Anatolia is the literal definition of a steppe. It's not sand dunes, it is plains covered in snow for winter months, grasslands in spring months and dry semi-fertile flatlands in summer months
@@secretname4190 desert: a waterless, desolate area of land with little or no vegetation anatolian steppe is not the most fertile place, but by no means it does not produce any food or anything, it is *not* a desert
This was supposed to be the last of the big peace treaties to end the Great War - but we'll have the challenge of another treaty episode in a few years from now!
Timestamps 1:17 Recap from Previous Ep 3:10 Troubled Peace/ Colliding Allied Interests 9:12 Formal Occupation of Constantinople/ The Treaty of Serves 10:28 Plans Against Kemal 12:16 The Armies: The Greek Forces/ The Turkish Forces 15:46 The Greek Summer Offensive of 1920 19:40 Overview of the Summer Offence 21:28 Kemal Secures Turkey’s Eastern Borders/ The End of Armenia 23:00 The Unsure Future of Venizelos’ Greater Greece 24:10 The Failure of Sevres/ Kemal’s New Hope 25:31 Curiosity Stream/ 16 Days in Berlin 26:40 Outro and Credits
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@@memskara220 ahh i see you are a young turk , which lives in a bubble , well i wish you , to be in the army in 2-3 years , you are gonna become a shadow , literally
I’m wondering if the definition of desert has shifted. The Great Plains of North America used to be described as the “Great American Desert” despite being steppe-like grassland. Maybe the Anatolian steppe is called a desert in older sources.
@@SaraWilsonBasturk No it's not. It's always called "bozkır" in Turkish, which means steppe. The only places close to a desert are Konya Plain and the Syrian border.
@@baturgunl504 about 400 mm annualy , still semi arid though. And I think there is nowhere in there with less than 300 mm rain per year. köppen geiger map says climate is BSk and BSh with is hot and cold steppe.It's only dry in summers . For the farmland issue , look up Konya plain for example , located in central Anatolia . You can farm there no problem .And today interior Anatolia supports population of 13 million
I was reading diary of m kemal ataturk. An anecdote: year1933.There is a cocktail in istanbul celebrating 10 th year republic. British ambassador looking to ataturk fiercely. Ataturk sended his servant officer to learn if sth wrong with ambassador.The servant returns he:"ecellency,the ambassadors father was injured at Gallipoli war and returned to u.k. in serious mental situation as veteran.thats why he wad looking fiercely" ataturk said servant :" Then go and ask , what was his father doing at Gallipoli?" After servant asked question , ambassador left the saloon...
Check " Salvation and Catastrophe" Konstantinos Travlos's YT channel. He's a Greek proffessor teaching history in a Constantinople's university. He's really interesting!
Los herederos del imperio otomano fueron los primeros en reconocer Armenia Occidental a través del tratado de Sevres, acatando el veredicto inapelable del presidente Wilson. El tratado de Lausanne no invalidó el de Sevres porque Armenia no fue parte de las discusiones ni suscribió, ni tampoco los que firmaron el primer tratado fueron los mismos que firmaron el segundo. Para que un tratado invalide otro, de común acuerdo todos los países deben volver a reunirse especialmente para suscribir su derogación.
@@alejandrod.dorumian4432 what do you think will happen in the new conference? Do you think Turkey or the other side are going to agree on giving land to the other side? I dont think so
I am not a historian, but I have read a slightly different story in various sources. The Ottoman Empire wanted an alliance with England. Most of the Turkish leadership wanted a pact with England. But despite some efforts, there was no acceptance from the British. The German Reich then took advantage of this situation and handed the two warships over to the Ottomans. The Ottomans were so important to the German Empire because there was a plan to declare a holy war between the Muslims and the British. Since the Ottoman ruler, as the caliph, was also the head of the Muslims, it was of course important to pull him over to the German side. In the Ottoman leadership, only a minority around Enver Pascha was in favor of an alliance with the German Empire. As I said, the majority of the Ottoman leadership was in favor of an alliance with the British. But the British did not answer the Ottoman efforts and played for time. To the best of my knowledge, it was a British plan to get their hands on the area of the Ottoman Empire in the Middle East. Hence the wait and see tactic. Which only aimed to be able to take action against the Ottoman Empire at the right time.
Kemal: we are going to war for our country adviser: but we would fight Greece, Italia, France and England Kemal: so its a fair fight. (i know there was little fight against the last 3, but they have several thousends of soldiers in turkish territory anyway)
Italy never had clash but England had major naval forces in boshphorus and aegea. France had approx 25% of the anatolia and had thousands of soldiers. So your comment is a true fact
He did challenge all of them at once. He declared a national oath, with modern Turkish borders as unnegotiatable motherland. It's not really his problem if the imperialist did not/ could not fight him. Victory was secured against the allieds and their puppets all the same.
@@gabrielbatistuta6326 Yeah it was huge diplomatic victory for Kemal. They don't call him genius for nothing. Most of them even say Canada's diplomatic independence movement against UK begin in the end of the Turkish War of Independence. (Look at the *Chanak Affair* for more information.)
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Some Ottoman troops fought on the Romanian front and there was a German mission to the Middle East to help the Ottomans with military training and equipment. I think these Ottoman soldiers were in the Yildrim Army Group if memory serves me right.
Yes you are right mustafa kemals battle hardened 19th divison was sent to galicia on the other hand mustafa kemals lightning army included many german officers and german divisons,later these experiences used against greece like sturmtrupp tactics also turkish and german militaries have been sharing same idea of battle called a tactic dependend on speed and lightning manuevers.
Ottoman Chief of General Staff was a German officer (Otto Liman von Sanders), all Ottoman military was under direct contraol of Germans. So saluting their commander like a german is very natural.
The treaty of Sevres was the ultimate death sentence to my nation tried to be imposed by imperialism. I am thankful to ATATURK and to my forefathers who bared the tremendous sacrifice made by their generation in those most desperate times of our history . Even after a 100 years ,witnessing the current situation in the Eastern Medditerreanian it is very clear to us Turks that ,nothing has changed in the minds of Imperialists ,we have to be clever, hard working and walk under the light of science that Ataturk has shown us for to protect our independence and soverignity .
I agree with you....the role of the Western great powers of the time was despicable..but in these days respect the 1923 Treaty of Lausanne which solidified and expanded Turkey's area at the time and do not try today to annul it with your current president's behavior, by trying to extend and taking other people's areas.
-Bukharan Peoples Republic sent golds and *Sword of Tamerlane* to Turkey from old Khans treasury They demanded first Turkish military officer who walk in Izmir in retake parade should be carry that sword. Sword of Tamerlane carried by Captain Kemalettin in retake ceramony of Izmir. After the the parade, Sword given to museum but stolen from there and nobody knows where is it now. Also Soviets siezed Bukharan gold ait to Turkey and pay us that support as mossin-nagant rifles and ammo. -Turkish retreat in 1920 is considered "first succesfull tactical retreat in Turkish military history". Some interntions like in 1913 ended as a failure with huge disorganization due to retreating battalions couldnt menage it succesfully and many soldiers started to run with fear. -Turkish army had only 4 planes, 1 of them was from Italian army, İtalians lefted behind it and many other supplies when retreating some parts of Anatolia without a fight. -When i saw anything about Turkish War of Indepence and treatry of serves, I always remember *Hungarian* suttrugle against *Triannon.* I wish they won their suttrugle against an unfair "peace" treatry too. *Mindannyian Attila Unokai Vakyung*
@@proudtobegreek3794 there are more than 20+ countries that have moon and star on their flags you gotta be kidding right? and also moon star sun flags, figures have been used even by sumerians. I still just can't believe what kind of a mongol you are..
People should stop having feelings and emotions for things that happened 100 years ago. History should be treated as a science, not as an excuses for hatred or revenge.
Κάποιοι στρατιώτες επαναστάτησαν εναντίον των αξιωματικών τους με την απειλή των όπλων τους κατέβαζαν από τα άλογα τους τα έπαιρναν και έφευγαν αυτοί έκαναν κάποια εγκλήματα δυστυχως
There is a fantastic Turkish TV series called "Kurtulus" from the 1990's which has great battle scenes. The Turkish army provided the extras. Sadly it is not subtitled. You can see clips on You Tube.
If you want to read, there is Kemal Atatürk's "Speech" or "Nutuk" in Turkish which is a speech he gave in the parliament after the war and published as a book later. He tells many things about the war.
@Akinci çöl olması için yağış miktarının az olması gerekirdi,İç anadolu'da yazlar sıcak ve kurak kışlar soğuk ve yağışlıdır kar yağan bir yere çöl denmesi garip olur değil mi? Zaten çöl olsaydı çöl denirdi.
"Know that today you will all die for Turkey so forget getting back to your families". Mustafa Kemal Ataturk to soldiers in the last moments before starting the war. 🇦🇱🇹🇷🇦🇱🇹🇷
@@nicksofialakis1448 what a stupid comment of you. Are you saying that Turks brought Arvanites in 14th century. Balkan was invaded in 1478 or at least Albania. Gjin Bue Shpata lived during fourteen century year 1355. If Turks did not come Greece today would speak Albania. It was religion that seperated us Albanians or Arberis (name from medieval times ).
@@nicksofialakis1448 What you call as "Greek nation (?)" today is actually composed of forecefully Hellenized Albanians, some southern Slavs, and a touch of Gypsies, all pushed into the haphazardly created artificial imperialist puppet statelet of Greece.
In 1920, the Greeks entered Anatolia with the provocation of the British. They did not realize that they were the pawns of the English, and the result was disastrous for the Greeks. Now they are threatening Turkey with the provocation of the USA and the French. However, we defeated the Greeks even at our weakest moment in our history, now Athens is taken for us as a result of a 24-hour war. The USA and the European Union also watch it like a movie. As in the Cyprus war. We are just waiting for the right time. The Greeks forget that they are not really a state, that we ruled them for 400 years with only one governor.
I'm working my way oldest to newest videos. Still in May 1915, but really looking forward to the post 1918 content, definitley interesting topics not often discussed. Thank you for the videos!
13:05 small correction. Μαύρη μοίρα (mávri míra) in Greek can either mean "Black fate" or "Black division" and since it's an army group I'm guessing it's the latter.
@@azh698 yes exactly that. In fact, the word for fate and division is the same because it is an old word for "part". A division is a part of the army. Fate is what everyone gets in the end, his "part" of destiny.
@@georgios_5342 Indeed. From the same root comes the verb "Μοιράζω" and in ancient mythology the Fates were called "Μοίρες" because they allocated to everyone their share of Destiny.
@@azh698 Α χαχα ξέρεις ελληνικά; Εγώ βασικά θα έλεγα ότι είναι και πιο απλό. Η λέξη μοίρα βγαίνει με ετερίωση (το έψιλον γίνεται όμικρον, όπως βρέχω-βροχή) από τη λέξη μέρος. Το μοιράζω προέρχεται από τη λέξη μοίρα. Βασικά όλα τα ρήματα σε -άζω, -ίζω προέρχονται από ουσιαστικά ή επίθετα.
I don't... there are literally few comments from turks and greeks and they are mostly collected and normal. but there are hundreds of you and people like you are starting to get annoying
Outstanding video guys! Your content keeps getting better and better. I feel very blessed to still have access to objective history, free of political bias
Only if Alexander the Great knew this before he left Macedonia, only if puny 19th century US knew this before they challenged Spain, only if Vietnamese knew this before they kicked out French and Americans..... They never learn.
Hello man! Came in peace. I just saw this comment only had three replies so i came for the help to filling 40 reply quota. Come on guys really?! Just 3 reply? We can do better than that. Now throw a few insults to me I will turn back in a few days.
The situation is critical. The Turks with the XIV Keyboard Division, supported by their 42nd Keyboard artillery regiment attacked the Greek lines. We Greeks, with the 36th Keyboard regiment alongside the 5th company of the National Keyboard Guard, we're holding the line!!
You are right. It was a Greek-Turkish War. The allies ,British , French , and Italian troops had a two-faced decorative role. On the contrary, the German officers and the Bolsheviks equipped and organized the Turkish army.
It's crazy how events that unfolded one hundred years ago still cause saltyness among people whose minds didn't move on as if some biggot comments filled with cheap hypocrite insults (who fail to see the attrocities commited by their own ancestors, yes keyboard warrior reading now, that counts for you as well) would change anything now or then. This just shows how they didn't even watch the video to learn a new perspective or learn encyclopedic history for the sake of learning history, but just to justify their own ideological biaises.
Just check the term " AK troller" and you will get a lot of answers.. Some people are paid for those comments Because heck it's easy for populist politicians to " rally the masses" the when they have someone to blame for their own mistakes... Make the people emotional and you make them stupid and easy to be manipulated..
@@cagdas135 that being said by a guy that chose personal insulting on a debate is a bit of stretch I mean if you don't understand what I wrote above or chose not to do so, it's your own problem not anyone's else's Ps isn't funny how I got your reaction after I mentioned the way politicians are manipulate people? You really think that your preferred poster boy is acting any different? Or that you possess in your hands the apsolute truth? Get serious and stop defending those troll farms that are a disgrace for any country
@@gangsteryengec873your reply, at elementary school is called "mirror" it's not something that adults should do As for my " poster boy" who told you that I have any at all? Life is to sort to waste it as a zombie servent of any politician or be hateful for reasons unrelevent to your own life just so some fithly rich people that don't care if you live or die, can make more money 💵
I had a very clear expectation of what kind of comments this video would have, and my expectations proved accurate. The consequences of this conflict 100 years ago are still echoing to present day. The seeds of enmity that were sown have endured with great health to our present time, a century later.
Here we are arguing about a war took place 100 years ago. Here we are foolish enough not to see the lost potential back then. We Greeks and Turks resemble so much the other that even this similarities make us enraged. Two broke countries agreed upon only one thing, destruction. Why do you need France, EU or USA when partnering with your neighbour is free and just? What do we, children of comfort, know of war? I cannot imagine myself hurting someone. Choosing life is honorable. Choosing to help make peace is honorable. If only we could spend our hard earned capital for welfare and future of our people instead of weapons. Take all the help if you want, we are not afraid tiny bit. Knowing that we are for the just cause, amidst a needless war that we will be forced again to face on, we ARE powerful enough to face on. We are just sad.
Your comment is true and Heartbreaking humans sometimes have strong urges to destroy one other its just a matter of excuse As the Ancient Chinese saying goes "Where there's Humans There's conflict ". Or "When there's humans there is always conflict"
Bu kadar edebiyat kasma. Onlar düşmanımız, bunu kafana yaz ve ona göre hareket et. Balkanlar’da Kosova, Bosna ve Arnavutluk’tan başka dostumuz yok. He Macaristan var bir de Türk Keneşi’ne gözlemci olarak katılmıştı en son.
@@tttt9131 halklar birbirine düşman değildir. sürdürülebilir olmayan kötü yönetim, güvenlikçi politikalar ve kin ile sorgulamayan halk kesimlerini güdüler. uluslararası ilişkiler dost ve düşman kavramlarının çok ötesinde grinin tonlarına sahip. öte yandan, bana neye göre hareket etmem gerektiğini söyleyecek cesareti nereden buldun kardeşim? hangi yetkinlikle bu saptamalarda bulundun? kahramanlık duygunu isimsiz bir hesaptan nefret mesajları kusarken mi gösterebiliyorsun?
@@tuberklz kahramanlık duygusu değil bu. Gerçekçilik. Yazdığın şeyler Batı dünyası için doğru ama ; Orta Doğu ve Balkanlar için bireylerin devletlerin reflekslerini sahiplenmesi kadar doğal bir şey yok. Yunanlılar’dan kaçı sence bu kadar uzun bir mesajla iki milletin yakınlaşması gerektiğini savunur? Buna karşın bizimkilerden gelen bu şekilde bir sürü yorum var. Kime hakaret yağdırdım bu arada? Balkanlar’daki milletler düşmanımız değil mi? Bulgaristan’da yapılanları moritanyalılar mı yaptı? :D
@@tttt9131 bireysel olarak dost ve düşman ülkeler şeklinde bir sınıflandırma yapmışsınız. bu gerçekçilik değil duygusallığın bizzat kendisi. bizler sandığınızdan çok daha fazla Batı'nın bir parçasıyız, bu ikincisi. devletin dış politikasını sahiplenmek istiyorsanız ittifak kurduğumuz devletlerin listesine bakınız. sizlerin bireysel olarak tepkili olmanız gereken size en yakın müttefikleriniz değil midir, bunu nasıl açıklarsanız? yahut da iktidarın faydacı politikalarının bir terörist grubun devletleşmesine koşar adım çanak tutmasına nasıl bir yorumunuz olabilir? edimlerimiz istesek de istemesek de bir politik realiteye hizmet eder. sizlerin bu tavrınız neye hizmet ediyor? düşünsenize barış çağrısı yapan bir adam var. altında hemen bir kindar. sınır devletlerle karşılıklı silahlanma yarışına engel olacak pozitif diyaloğun kurulması her iki ulusun da mevcut kaynaklarını daha verimli kullanmaları adına değerli değil midir? mantık basit değil mi yeterince sizler için? sizce bizlerin söz gelimi Yunan tarafından daha fazla barış söylemine sarılmamız bir eksiklik midir? balkan ülkeleri düşman devlet değildir. sizce sınırımızda konuşlu modernize edilmiş YPG güçleri için yanıtımız yeterli midir? cehalet düşmanımız benim güzel kardeşim. yoksa biz daha çok vatanlar kaybederiz.
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Greeks are not trying to push anything. The disaster in Asia Minor more or less discredited expansionism forever in greece and the moderns state has neither the power nor the intention of pursuing such goals. Unlike our neighbour turkey which has been acting like their ottoman predecessors lately.
@@williamdavis9562 Absolutely. How can you possibly believe a weak country like greece would try and fight Turkey,a semi major power?? Its not the 1920s anymore. If you believe otherwise perhaps you could provide me with a reputable source that backs your claim?
@@xnikolasbs2230 Fighting is one thing, constantly poking them in the eye is another. I'd imagine Greece is under the full belief it can continue to push Turkey into a corner because it feels it has full protection being an EU member. Again, I'd imagine this isn't a wise policy for the reasons you mentioned above. Greece arming islands which it signed a treaty it would never arm is poking your neighbor in the eye. Especially when some of those islands are a stones throw from their shores. Using said islands to block a large nation out of a body of water which it has a huge coast is another case of poking your neighbor in the eye. It is these two main issues which are causing all the tension in the region. Like I said earlier, I have a feeling in the long term it's going to end up very similar to what happened in Cyprus. Turkey is going to react, western powers will condemn but do nothing, Greece gets pummeled. This looks like the most likely road Greece is walking on.
most of the anti-Venizelist camp was against millitary intervention in Minor Asia,since there were no real guarantees of Allied support and the greek population was concetrated in the-tottaly undefendable-coastline.The most prominant opponent was Ioannis Metaxas,later dictator from 1936 until his death in 1941.But Venizeols was a natural gambler so he followed his plan anyway.He lost the elections on 1920 and his succesors were stuck in that swamp with zero Allied support,except the verbal support fron Loydd George,until 1922
Although I mostly agree with you we must also point out that the loyalists faction after venizelos lost that said elections failed to find international support or an diplomatic solution with the Turkish nationalist, failed to address military problems like the problematic supply lines And their interventions to the army's command, basically replacing veteran venizelist commanders with lesser capable ones, even with mental cases like Chatsianestis lead to the devastation of the Greek and Christian population in general at Anatolia Also note that metaxas in some point had proposed to entrench roughly the perimeter of Smyrna vialet and evacuate the population of the rural areas dimming them undefendeble but eventually the Greek command made the decision to defend a much wider front while chatzianestis was issuing orders from Smyrna having almost no clue what was happening in the front lines Even after his trial still didn't had a clue what about went wrong..
The anti-venizelists were indeed against the campaign but when they won the elections of 1920 they rode the army even further into the anatolian heartland. Also during 1921 they refused every "allied" proposition for a compromise.
@@lordharry423 your grasp of historical events is as poor as your language Honestly trolls like you don't deserve an proper answer since you didn't done you homework in the first place But allow me to split some knowledge in your historically ignorant face When Greece received the administration of Smyrna the Greek authorities was harassed in day basis by Turkish irregulars Also known as " tsetes" ( tseta - unlawful combatant in southern Slavic) Tsetes was also raiding the rural areas around Smyrna and between towns under the Greek administrative control By 1921 the Greek army command made the decision to cut the irregulars of their supposed supply lines That led them to move towards eski sachir where those supply lines was supposally coming from After the capture of that point it became apparent that 1) the attacks won't stop regardless of the territory captured 2) the Turkish nationalists are the de facto government of turkey and they are the ones that diplomatically should be addressed 3) the Turkish nationalists won't accept any peace talks unless they are forced to There for the Greek command made the even more questionable decision than the last one, to continue advancing towards saragios river and Angyra That led to overstretch the supply lines and failure of the operation ( together with the fact that the royalist appear brass that had replaced the venizelist was showing signs of defeatist mentality)
@@lordharry423 also since you like to refer to your self as a royalty you should know that prince Andrew grant daddy of Charles was smudged out of Greece in 1922 by the royal navy in a cardboard box to avoid execution for his actions during the greco Turkish war that gave him the nick name " καψοκαληβας" the little huts arsonist
@@yumani_ firstly Greeks predated the romans and secondary and most importantly we are not supposed to live in 450 BC.. Also you are missing the point of my original comment here you can't call " invader" someone who was there before you, at the end of the it'sn historically accurate Unless you don't care about historical accuracy.. If so what are you doing at a comment section of a channel about history?
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Are you getting the feeling that the history might repeat? It very well might,unless Greece remembers the past and stop getting pushed in to a war with Turkey. I as a Turk would hate to see that. I carry no animosity To Greeks,most Turks don’t. I know most Greeks don’t harbor hatred to Turks either. Let’s not allow people thousands of miles away stir trouble in our neighborhood.
@Ahmet Özkan basically you are both right Lol, there wasn't just two sides and the great powers was changing sides depending what they had to lose or gain at given moments 😉
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@@varlk5814 hayır kardeşim step falan yok anadoluda, sen orta asyayla karıştıyorsun. İç Anadolu coğrafyası çoğunlukla bozkırdır. "Central Anatolian Plains" derdim ben olsaydım.
So sad modern Greece in all history used by imperialist allies, even today they pushing Greece for attack Turkey, Greece also want to be used they doing same wrong repeatly expecting different ending.
It was not the greece’s fault,but infact it was UK’s fault.Lloyd George was the most sadistic,the most annoying and the most war loving man in the last century
you guys should learn some history and maybe open a neutral history book. There were 3.5 million Greeks living in Asia Minor at the time and they were systematically persecuted by the Ottoman Turks from 1914 onwards to 1919 when the Greek army intervened. Just check "Greek deportations 1914" and "Greek genocide". In fact, Ottoman persecutions of Greece had created an enormous influx of refugees in mainland Greece that it simply could not sustain. Greek involvment into Anatolia was an ethnic and economic NECESSITY.
1914 Census in Izmir shows 1/3 (around 73k) of population is Greek in this city and it is suddenly increased to 1/2 (140k) in 1921. You should have search well before you publish a video that you named "documentary" then spit the world like "Greek majority in Symrne". Greeks are still having that megola idea sickness. According the maps that showing on TV shows, we shouldn't even swim at our beaches. We may return to Altay Montains? You are all ridiculous! Additionally; they were slaughtered around 3000 disarmed soldiers (they disarmed according to Mondros) plus civillians when the Greek troops set their postals to Izmir. Actually, we shouldn't suprise to such "documentary" as all of your references only based on British sources and both of your advisers are the only Greek...
Guys enough is enough. There is no dessert in Turkey and we are not arab ( you can check this linguistically if you want) . We can't see camels in even zoo bro came on ...
"engaged in guerilla war against Turkish villagers" That's an interesting way of saying "they stole, raped and murdered". But I have to admit it's in line with general orientalist/eurocentric view of the channel.
-Bukharan Peoples Republic sent aid as gold from old Khan's treasury. Soviets siezed it but pay us thay gold's 10% as Mossin Nagant & Ammo, %10 as money. Left 80% of it used in Russian Civil War by Moscow. -Chraties in Azerbaijan and British India -Tekalif-i Milliye (National Tax). it was a wealth tax . its ratio was 50%. So if you had 2 horse, 1 should be given as tax. Few rebellions happened because of it.
@@panoskamp4324 Empire's army was discharged by Allies because of the treaty of Sevr. That's why Atatürk legislate TEKALİF-İ MİLLİYE which means Orders Of National Task And Their Practise. In the other words, people gives almost everything they have to army for the war of independence. That is how atatürk built an army from zero OK? There are no helps from OTTOMAN or SULTAN. You obviously don't know how bad the empire was.
While greek army was retreating from Anatolia, they slaughtered thousands of innocent Turkish villagers. It was very sad for Turkish people and still remembered.
I wish more was told about Mar Shimun, Agha Petros and other Assyrians. Assyria and their struggle for independence is very interesting but underreported
@@fordgalaxie7623 yes I am not Dutch... so what? You want me to go back to the Middle East where I face discrimination? I am more loved to hear than in my fathers homeland. There are infact more Assyrians in the town I live than my ancestors entire region at this moment and time..
