Greek Rifles and Pistols of World War 1 I THE GREAT WAR Special feat. C&Rsenal

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Othais explains the rifles and pistols that Greece fielded in the First World War, among them the legendary Mannlicher-Schönauer M1903 and the Greek Gras M1874.
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Hart, Peter. The Great War. A Combat History of the First World War, Oxford University Press, 2013.
Hart, Peter. The Great War. 1914-1918, Profile Books, 2013.
Stone, Norman. World War One. A Short History, Penguin, 2008.
Keegan, John. The First World War, Vintage, 2000.
Hastings, Max. Catastrophe 1914. Europe Goes To War, Knopf, 2013.
Hirschfeld, Gerhard. Enzyklopädie Erster Weltkrieg, Schöningh Paderborn, 2004
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@kostaspascalidis6274 7 лет назад

As a Greek, I can confirm the popularity the Gras rifle enjoyed among the people long after WWI. I come from the island of Crete and I can still remember stories from my grandfather and his contemporaries of how they stashed and used the "γκράδες" (grάthes - i.e. the "plural" of the word "gras" in greek) they had kept from the Blakan Wars and WWI, in the greek resistance during the second WW. Great show, cheers from Greece!

@eleftheriosvenizelos4662 7 лет назад

Two Greek episodes in a day? ΖΉΤΩ! *Μεγάλη Ιδέα intensifies*

@TheGreatWar 7 лет назад

+Eleftherios Venizelos we thought Greece joining the Entente would be a good occasion for a Greece week.

@eleftheriosvenizelos4662 7 лет назад

Greece week? Oh boy! *puts on Euzone uniform* *grabs popcorn*

@VladTevez 7 лет назад

+Eleftherios Venizelos Final countdown to June 28

@eleftheriosvenizelos4662 7 лет назад

"Drop the base" ~Eleftherios Venizelos on his arrival to Athens June 1917

@VladTevez 7 лет назад

+Eleftherios Venizelos You'll return at Athens on June 27, Mr Prime minister

@georgezachos7322 7 лет назад

Οn the handle of the pistol, the letters EBΣ stand for Ελληνικος Βασιλικος Στρατος(Hellenic Royal Army). Great clip.

@kimon114 7 лет назад

Yes sir... I have a Gras, and yes I'm Greek. Got it from my grandfather, and It have seen a lot of action in WWII !! I even grew up thinking that Gras was the word for "riffle" n Greek.

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

fantastic

@paulmanson253 7 лет назад

kimon114 So have you fired it ? Are the cartridges loaded with black powder or some modern propellant ?

@kimon114 7 лет назад

Oh no... You see, after the Civil war, having any type of riffle was illegal, so in order to keep it he destroyed the firing mechanism.

@paulmanson253 7 лет назад

kimon114 Well now .So it is simply a wall hanger,and your family can use it to pass on the history of your family. The Greco-Turkish war,the Second world War, the post war years,somehow enough members survived to be able to tell coherent stories.Get the older ones together and record the stories they tell.Those were upheavals of history the young ones will not understand on a personal level unless there is a record. More important than you might think.

@kimon114 7 лет назад

Too late, all of them dead now, sorry to say. Yet my Grandad never spoke about the war, not once. All we know is from other people. My dad kepr some notes, I've got to find them. You are right, I agree.... Just imagine people that lived throught three wars to listen to young people nowadays compaining about everything...

@1234567896417 7 лет назад

I am Greek, and I was literally screaming to my screen for the Gras. Greece's hero gun.

@vpapako 7 лет назад

Well, overpriced military purchases from abroad is kind of our thing here in Greece.

@TheGreatWar 7 лет назад

A very particular hobby.

@scootergirl3662 4 года назад

This is more savage than any ol' semi-automatic you can find.

@BigPuddin 4 года назад

Well, you could've done the opposite like Brazil and just buy Taurus handguns, then realize how much money you wasted despite wanting to save money by buying cheap guns in the first place. The litmus test for being Brazilian or American is whether you hate Taurus guns or not.

@epicendingigaveyouchoccymi3077 2 года назад

Yeah

@rahulingle8806 2 года назад

👌

@MooseHunter330 7 лет назад

Mannlicher Schönauer. One of the most beautiful hunting rifles ever made.

@AtomicPeacenik 7 лет назад

Greekin' awesome.

@jglaneuski 3 года назад

Stop with the puns. *slaps*

@aggelosn.6846 7 лет назад

Greece fought wars in 1897, 1912 (A Balkan war) and 1913 (B Balkan war) before entering the ww1

@topshaggeralfieg9130 7 лет назад

I don't know why but I really love watching these while playing BattleField 1

@YiannissB. 7 лет назад

I'm here for my Greek Manlicher rifle! So hyped, CLICK!

@gelisgeo1309 7 лет назад

Greece was in unstoppable wars in this period so they spent a lot of monay in army ... characteristic example of this was when they buy with donations the best 'ultrasonic' battleship in Mediterranean the battleship 'Averof' in 1911 ..with which destroy the Turkish navy and control the Aegean sea

@finlayjohnman519 7 лет назад

I feel this dedicated episode is a better type of episode than a live stream - nice to see you guys edit the live stream down to a more concise episode rather than leave its by itself.

@TheGreatWar 7 лет назад

And a lot of other people prefer the live streams. So we use both.

@deusredeemer 7 лет назад

FUNNY THING IS THAT I SUBBED TO C&R'S CHANNEL TODAY AFTER I FOUND THAT M10 VIDEO .... GREEK AND PROUD KEEP THE VIDS GOING GENTLEMEN :D

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

glad to hear

@polydorgr1897 7 лет назад

Well done to Greece

@user-gm7xh2vl5d 5 лет назад

There are even folk songs where the word Grass stands for the word riffle.

@arxwng 7 лет назад

Hello channel,im Greek,i have to add that our army kept using GRA as their basic weapon even in WW2, and im proud of our soldiers back then ,that had to use a single shot weapon against Italians and Germans that were equiped with more modern guns most of them submachine guns or semi automatic rifles.

@Danheron2 2 года назад

To be fair you also had the Manchlier and Mauser so single shot rifles next to the two nicest Bolt actions probably ever that must’ve been confusing for the Italians lol

@grindkagethefirst5975 7 месяцев назад

@@Danheron2thing is the Gras was black powder and black powder guns velocity was slower but the Gras was powerful lovely gun

@grindkagethefirst5975 7 месяцев назад

Kai egw ellhnas eimai , ta sub machine guns htan kala apo konta to Gra mporei na eixe 1 sfera alla mporouse na varesei apo pio makria alla ta Gewehr Ton germanon htan ontos kalitera toufekia ekei simfono

@Verby01 7 лет назад

The moment that you can consider yourself a real historical weapons specialist : you are form the US and know details of greek light guns in WW1. And you really know your business in the minute details (the Gras comment is a killer)

@xara2721967 7 лет назад

The hand writing on the colt gun Ε.Β.Σ actually means Greek.Royal.Army . It was propably found in turkey after the disastrous anatolian campaign after the war. Thanks Indy and team :)

@cyrillafont2581 7 лет назад

something interesting, WE just found a Colt 38 from my great grand father. The gun has the greek marking but obviously end up in France. my great grand dad fought only on the western front. very strange how this gun ended up here.

@xrhstosark8513 7 лет назад

keep up the good work guys!!!the truth is that you can still see some of those rifles in mountain greece,,in taverns and kafenia(small coffee shops ...kind of)as displays or family rellics...

@theokaraman 7 лет назад

Gras IS the national rifle of Greece!! The weapon of the Resistance during the Axis Occupation!

@mikep3180 7 лет назад

that intro will never get old

@GR8TM4N 7 лет назад

The writing at the bottom of that pistol: ΕΒΣ = Ελληνικός Βασιλικός Στρατός ? - Greek Royal Army ? I suppose so

@rubenpereira1309 7 лет назад

Really interesting episode, love the explanation on the guns.

@spanigo_9703 7 лет назад

Great video guys on both channels.This channel has made me understand World war 1 so much better.Would it be possible for you guys to make a video on the role Spain played during ww1.Thank you very much for the great video

@TheGreatWar 7 лет назад

+Spanigo Saturday

@nicostheocharous1990 7 лет назад

Τhat was my grand grandfather's rifle.He went to Ankara with that rifle.My granddad told me he killed more than 1000 Ottomans during that war.That rifle killed Ottomans,Albanians,Bulgarians,Romanians,Germans and Italians.

@joedude971 7 лет назад

love these guys

@maewinchester2030 7 лет назад

joedude971 We love you too.

@nirfz 7 лет назад

After the King Constantine Special i would think that because of his field expieriences he maybe was leaning towards giving his soldiers proper equipment.

@admirallongstash8056 7 лет назад

King Constantine I of Greece You should have been more like your daddy. That would have been a benefit to the nation, the people and not the least to yourself, your majesty

@EntryLevelLuxury 7 лет назад

This is just a snippit from an awesome longer episode....!

@TheGreatWar 7 лет назад

Some people prefer the shorter versions.

@EntryLevelLuxury 7 лет назад

Not this guy :D Those streams were so fun and informative. Great work!

@Darthdoodoo 9 месяцев назад

I found c& arsenal thru the great war and have watched every single episode of their stuff

@skypilot257 7 лет назад

I can almost feel how smooth that action is when he works the bolt.

@kaiser0307 7 лет назад

after the 1897 war that was lost for greece, there was a revolution from the army demanding several social and political and army reforms. we knew we were outnumbered and outgunned so they bought the best items for the our military not only rifles but heavy weapons as well such artilery. those gras and manlichers served greece with pride and success from the balkan wars of 1912 to the resistance to the italian german forces of the ww2.

@willarguello4744 7 лет назад

This info is ...great

@headrockbeats 7 лет назад

7:38 "They actually had ordered tons of gras". I wish my government would order tons of gras, and then maybe sell me just a few grams of it.

@headrockbeats 7 лет назад

7:50 "If we have any Greeks watching, I guarantee the minute they see the gras they'll light up..." xD xD This is comedy gold!!

@ayarzeev8237 7 лет назад

great clipping of their video with yours!

@gabew4188 7 лет назад

Good job on the video!

@kostasfoteas4499 7 лет назад

I am greek. Do more episodes of greece

@thecellulontriptometer4166 7 лет назад

It's all Greek to me. But seriously, it is interesting to note that they were willing to spend a lot on their weapons. As I recall, Greek finances even then weren't that great.

@YiannissB. 7 лет назад

By 1904-1905 the economy had start to gain momentum thanks to effective handling and foreign investments and donations for the military. The biggest climax was the purchase of the Armored Cruiser Averoff. Fan fact, that flagship defeated single handed the ottoman navy

@alexturlais8558 7 лет назад

the cellulon triptometer Greek economy in a bad state? Wow, that's an unimaginable scenario.

@admirallongstash8056 7 лет назад

...still, we got our hands on great stuff, and did great stuff with it!

@ErebosGR 7 лет назад

lol you must be new to Greece's level of political corruption. The same 3-4 families of politicians have been governing and ripping off the Greek people for over 100 years now.

@ioanniskoletis8300 7 лет назад

the cellulon We love our army,that s why. Constantinople awaits.

@mfoteinos 7 лет назад

To those that doubt why Greece bought such expensive weapons the reasons are simple. Half of today's territories were under Ottoman occupation and 90% inhabited by Greeks. This was a liberating war hence the though was one: We must have the best weapons to regain our ancestral territories. That's why we bought those guns, that's why we were the first to buy Hybrid submarines and the heavy cruiser Averof. At least we made it...

@harrybasil6069 6 лет назад

I'm sorry to disappointing you but I wouldn't say that. The reason is simple. Money. Especially such as small in power that time we are forced to get old, expensive stuff from the big powers...

@baneofbanes 4 года назад

el poutsino ! The Mannilicher wasn’t “old” when the Greeks bought it. The exact opposite in fact.

@jeeveey 7 лет назад

This will be a great episode as usual! uhhh Indy why do you have an elmo mug..

@TheGreatWar 7 лет назад

+Jack Evey Why not?

@wingracer1614 7 лет назад

Every great presenter needs a weird mug. Craig Ferguson had the snake cup, Brian from Tech Yes City has the Jar Jar mug and Indy has the Elmo mug.

@LBFlowers32 7 лет назад

why don't you have an Elmo mug?

@indianajones4321 7 лет назад

Can you explain the role of the Nepalese Gurkhas in the British Army? P.S. I really like the shirt that says " I've got 99 problems I'm an Austrian-Hungarian Soldier in 1915"

@neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819 7 лет назад

Indiana Jones the Gurkha Rifles were part of the Indian Army, which was part of the armed forces of the British Empire. Today they still form regiments, but now they are parts of both the British and Indian armies. I'm not certain of just were they served, but I think they were were in France and the Miidle East.

@Pchogs 7 лет назад

Love these episodes, give much more depth to what is going on with the individual entities in the war

@marcppparis 7 лет назад

Yay Othais and Mae are back

@dimostenisn.4642 7 лет назад

Hi just to clarify something, the revolver has the initials ΕΒΔ which stands for Ελληνικός Βασιλικός Στράτος which means Greek Royal Army.

@xenofonzabetakis9013 4 года назад

The Greeks never stopped producing black powder rounds. My grandma was 10 when the invasion of Crete happened and has showedme the tools she used as a little girl to make the gras' rounds for her father who served in the Albanian border and then returned on foot and by fiahing boats to Crete to fight as a rebel

@dunepepe6199 7 лет назад

An episode on Baron Roman Ungern-Sternburg and his experiences during the war would be awesome.

@onemileperhour 7 лет назад

I LOVE these joint videos. Keep it up

@peterstadlmaier3107 7 лет назад

Nice! I own a Mannlicher-Schönauer hunting rifle, produced 1927 by Breda. I think it was one of these rifles Italy made for Greece between the wars. Of course it got a new stock and trigger and was rebarreled to 7x57 Mauser. Works still fine today.

@Tsagia 10 месяцев назад

Also,when the French landed in Thessaloniki and established the Armee d'Orient and the Salonika Front,they equipped the Greek Army divisions which sided with the allies(the government of National Defence),with a considerable amount of Lebel rifles and Bertier carbines(I think carbines).By the end of WWI,the Greek Army had received 60,000 Lebel rifles,689 St.Etienne machine-guns and 3,980 Chauchat LMGs.

@Zamolxes77 7 лет назад

Who the hell dislikes this ? And why ? Trolls ? Austro-Hungarians ? Turks ? Hotzendorf ?

@Blueboy0316 5 лет назад

Speaks to the smoothness of the first rifle's action, as the girl struggles to chamber and unchamber rounds.

@ACE1918 7 лет назад

This is some very good stuff. Potentially quite helpful as well I might add.

@FakeBlocks 7 лет назад

G3 ΡΕ! (Greek soldiers know)

@luke20picart1 7 лет назад

G3A4

@bruhmomentum1994 5 лет назад

Pame to G3 to athanato

@fareaislam6681 7 лет назад

best channel in youtube

@kostasfoteas4499 7 лет назад

I am greek Keep up the good job!!!

@TwentythreePER 7 лет назад

I've been looking forward to this edited version. The Mannlicher-Schönauer 1903/14 is probably the most beautiful gun of the war. I HAVE to get me one some day and have a Steyr collection. One mistake, at 3:30 you show a picture of the 6.5x54 cartridge the Greek rifles shot but the label is wrong. It says 8x56 which is a cartridge that was invented in the 1930's and used in the Austro-Hungarian Mannlicher M95.

@TheGreatWar 7 лет назад

+TwentythreePER well, what can we say? we're hippies and these numbers could well be made up for us.

@uninterruptedrhythm4104 7 лет назад

+The Great War its ironic that hippies are covering a channel called the Great War lol

@jamescusack6511 7 лет назад

Man...that's a lot of guns behind him....

@harismpalatsoukas2777 7 лет назад

amazing

@GravesRWFiA 7 лет назад

the rotating mage might have an easy flow but anything with more bits is going to be easier to screw up as opposed to the straight action of the Enfield and mauser

@Candrsenal 7 лет назад

Interestingly it is no more complicated mechanically. Just an internal clock styled spring, the follower, and the magazine body. Making it quick-detach added more parts for sure, but that wasn't necessary to the design.

@FLORATOSOTHON 3 года назад

Greece did not buy these guns for WW1. They bought them for the Balkan Wars. After the defeat during the 1897 war with Turkey, were the Turks had Mauser repeating rifles and the Greek army was still using the Gras and the Military coup of 1906, that made Eleutherius Venizelos prime minister, the Greek armed forces modernized. There is a tradition that holds to this day, that since Greece will always be small in numbers, it must be better in the quality of it's weapons relative to the weapons of it's adversaries. This trend, led the Greek armed forces, to buy expensive weapons that were considered to be the best in the world.

@thesketchydude1315 7 лет назад

...so the Mannlicher M1903 is basically a bolt action revolving rifle? XD

@MarvelDcImage 5 лет назад

04:14 As a Greek I am guessing someone in Greece took a bribe to order these said rifles.

@Danheron2 2 года назад

Your right actually 😂 and Austria offered to recognize Greek ownership over Macedonia, it worked out in the end because it’s an incredible rifle but still hilarious that you got that right

@maxsmodels 7 лет назад

I had a Ruby 38. It nust have had a 25 pound trigger pull and shot 3 feet high.

@thegreytgandalf8605 7 лет назад

But what about greek shotguns or machine guns? Were such weapons used at all by Greece or Balkans in general?

@Stcddot 3 года назад

We only used bolt action rifles and stationary machine guns. Shotguns were used from American shock troops.

@MrPh30 7 лет назад

Steyr Model M, S , L of modern make , previous before the SBS action of today ,they have the rotary magazine of the MS type, similar also with the Steyr M72 sporter model .

@user-ls3mg1co1t 6 лет назад

EA now bring Greece to bf1 you know our weapons!

@Captain37684 5 месяцев назад

Great video🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷

@Ragazar 7 лет назад

Would you ever consider doing some sort of poster / perhaps future book signing down here in Gothenburg? Would be honored to shake the hand of someone so dedicated to knowledge.

@TheGreatWar 7 лет назад

+Johan Sjöö Ferm definitely thinking of expanding the fan meeting thing in some way.

@KRYPTIA-mp4ol 7 лет назад

Steyr manlicher was the favorite rifle of Greeks. The gras were just a "necessary bad". At 1904-1905 the Greek fighters of the macedonian struggle, described the gras as an old and not good rifle and they were eager to take the new manlichers and use them against the bulgarian komitatziis

@federicoascencio9560 7 лет назад

Hey Indy and crew can you do this same kind of video with the romanian rifles and small arms, I know you did a 1+hour episode but will be fantastic if can do this kind of summary for the people like me that doesnt have alot of time to watched and fantastic work with the channel

@TheGreatWar 7 лет назад

Why would we only do the summary for the Greek part and not the Romanian part?

@federicoascencio9560 7 лет назад

The Great War Im glad to heard that!!! Thanks for all the great content that you make The Great War crew!!!

@user-ch2pw4sh2z 3 года назад

Dear gentlemen at "THE GREAT WAR", the Mannlicher-Schonauer rifle model 1903, was bought by the Greeks because the Germans or the British would not sell them their rifles... also they wanted to upgrade their army as soon as possible with the best equipment possible after the 1987 unfortunate results of the 1897 short skirmish with the turkish army... so they got the best rifle of the era... it was chambered in the unique 6.5x54mm M&S calibre only and not in the 8x50mm Mannlicher calibre of the type that you showed in the video which was used by the M&S straight bolt 1895 model, used mainly by the Austrian and Bulgarian armies but also by the Hungarians... Also the Colt revolver was chambered in .38 S&W...

@micha0585 5 лет назад

Doctor: You have 11:59 minutes until you die Me:

@willshea9924 7 лет назад

FIRST!!!! my life is complete. nice keyboard playing Indy!

@Robert-xq2yz 7 лет назад

Mr_Steaty except I was first

@Nick-yw8we 7 лет назад

Mr_Steaty congratulations

@Robert-xq2yz 7 лет назад

Niels Van De Put I WAS FIRST

@tinyman1144 7 лет назад

I was quietly first on the last video

@willshea9924 7 лет назад

we were all first XD

@adolfojp 7 лет назад

I love bear man and forest woman.

@williamprince1114 7 лет назад

If I had to choose between a 38 special revolver and a 32 acp pistol, I would certainly choose the revolver. I wonder why the French would hold onto their Rubies and pass the 38 spl Colts on to Greece. Logistics of supply is the only thing I can think of.

@johnbauer2196 9 дней назад

I've got a 03/14 in which various parts are painted grey, other parts are blued...

@TheBigBadBeowulf 7 лет назад

What will you guys do when The War ends? Maybe move on to The Great War part two: Electric Boogaloo?

@batzathebeast6750 6 лет назад

Where can you get these guns

@gikaradi8793 7 лет назад

hey FUNtastic !!!!!! and also Othais and his better half are a pair that shoots every life obstacle down!! !does anybody know what happened to all those large stocks of mannlichers ,gras and also m1 garands of the greek army??

@VladTevez 7 лет назад

+Gi Karadi A number of soldiers kept them home, others were sold

@gikaradi8793 7 лет назад

thank you very much for the info !!!

@Speeder76 7 лет назад

Interesting you talk during this video (on the Mannlicher) about the rifles that the portuguese army used. Are we gonna have an episode about the Portuguese rifles and pistols of the WW1? I'm curious!

@nickharalampopoulos Год назад

Always Greek army buys the best weapons. It is a tradition.

@peterlynch1458 7 лет назад

We're "greeking" out here.

@Ashfielder 7 лет назад

This should be interesting. I'm expecting German influence to be quite common, which is unusual considering Greece's position later in the war.

@denizbeytekin9853 3 года назад

Nice !!!

@Hobgoblin1975 7 лет назад

Mays looking good.

@kostasfoteas4499 7 лет назад

Make more episodes about Greece

@TheGreatWar 7 лет назад

+Kostas Foteas sorry, in the foreseeable future there won't be more.

@VladTevez 7 лет назад

+Kostas Foteas Patience until Battle of Skra

@Nickos1b 7 лет назад

Perhaps the arms dealer Basil Zaharoff had something to do with those fine rifles. I think a special on his part in WW1 and beyond is due.

@VladTevez 7 лет назад

Η υπομονή είναι αρετή

@mr.quarters6047 7 лет назад

Awww snap!

@SatrapHarpy 7 лет назад

I wish I could play around with all these rifles.

@connorbates9806 7 лет назад

hi love the show could you talk about the role of the British army cadet force during the war thanks for reading this

@therupublicoftexasainswort6215 7 лет назад

indy can you do a video of trench knifes

@g0rdonfreeman1 7 лет назад

Is that guy Stanley Kubrick's younger brother?

@iakovos2458 Месяц назад

After the defeat of Greek army by the Turks in the 1897 war, Greece re-equipped and reorganized it's army so they'll be ready for the 1st and 2nd Balkan wars in 1912. Greeks were fighting against the Turkish and the Bulgarian armies before the start of WW 1.