Green Line LRT: North to South track alignment (March 2017) 

What ever you guys build just for the love of god make it HEATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Will this thing get built this century? Lets get building it!

The animation looked smooth and efficient. It would be interesting to see if the city can deliver this expensive project. Estimated cost close to $1.5 billion dollars.

This thing is so cool. Every city should make a LRT video like this one !!!

The main benefit of Low Floor LRT is simpler at-grade stations that are only a little more than standard curb height, as compared to high floor LRT stations. This enables Low Floor stations to be better integrated into existing communities on existing streets without much re-design and re-construction. Low Floor station platforms are not much higher than existing roadways/sidewalks, requiring much smaller ramps. Calgary has their entire downtown LRT routes planned backwards in this regard. They have the existing High Floor LRT train running at street level in downtown and proposed Low Floor LRT train running underground in the downtown core. I understand Calgary developed their High Floor train many years ago before the modern Low Floor LRV units became available. But given they already have a substantial amount of High Floor LRV vehicles in service on a number of existing track alignments, why not then just build the new Green Line with High Floor LRT/LRV technology as well? It's like the last LRT route to be built, why make it different? The Low Floor LRV vehicles and parts and maintenance facilities are incompatible with High Floor LRV vehicles, parts and maintenance facilities. Therefore there is no flexibility for each line to distribute/share LRV units across the network. Network-wide, there will always be more LRV units in standby mode, or in maintenance mode than necessary, than if they could utilize/share resources across a singular consistent network. From a Low Floor vs High Floor perspective only, Edmonton has utilized the High Floor and Low Floor technologies better as their intended purpose. (This is in part due to fate of timing of each technology, as High floor was invented decades ago, and Low Floor only becoming mainstream only recently). Edmonton has their existing High Floor LRT trains running in a metro style tunnel through the downtown. Edmonton is now building the new Low Floor Valley Line LRT alignment on the surface in the downtown. Generally I don't agree with building LRT at-grade in a downtown, because it limits overall corridor efficiency between trains and road vehicles....Unless it can be built in its entire own corridor with no road running immediately adjacent/parallel to it and intersection crossing spacing is sufficient to allow good traffic flow. In Edmonton's case, the length of each Valley Line train (number of connected Low Floor LRV units) is limited to the distance between downtown blocks (particularly between 100 St and 101 St). Based on the same frequency as the existing High Floor Capital line, this limits the capacity of the Low Floor Valley Line to about 6,600 passengers per hour, vs the High Floor line of capacity of 12,000 passengers per hour. Also, operating a train with roadway traffic signal timings defeats the purpose of having a train run on its own autonomous uninterpreted faster paced schedule. If a key objective of LRT operations means utilizing roadway traffic signal timings, then a much cheaper BRT system would make much more sense. Another key objective of mass transit is to move as many people as possible in the shortest time. Commuters only care about getting from A to B in the shortest time. Another objective of mass transit is to reduce roadway congestion, but if trains are interfering with traffic signals, then the purpose is diminished.

When shown like this, you can see how much of space is just wasted for cars. About 70% of all the land in the area is for roads and parking. The rest is for people.

the music in this video was good

When you have to drive to the train, you've already failed.

Cant Wait! Awesome!

this extension is very important to Calgary more than any thing else, the city is going to be the biggest city in the west, so we need a comprehensive transportation system, i think subway(underground) solution is the best, but i hope that if you take in consideration the heating system at those stations,

Make the entire line above grade (elevated) or underground like bigger cities do. Please dont undersell Calgary and take any cheaper options. everyone will regret it once the city expands. Just the traffic at saddle ridge station is a complete mess around the circle because of the train being on grade.

I think more thought should be put into the names of stations, it'd suck to have two Centre Streets or two 4 Streets on the network and it makes it really confusing for new riders I think some stations very easily could and SHOULD get renamed such as: - 96 Ave N -> Harvest Hills - 64 Ave N -> Huntington - 40 Ave N -> Highland Park - 28 Ave N -> Tuxedo - 9 Ave N -> Crescent Heights - 7 Ave SW -> Central - Centre Street S -> Beltline OR Connaught - 4 Street SE -> East Crossing/Stampede OR Railtown/Stampede - 26 Ave SE -> Crossroads OR Crossroads Market - Shepard -> East Shepard

A true north-south corridor transit system! That will create lots of jobs for years to come

more underground stations/lines the better

I hope it even gets started being built before I'm dead.

Great project

First underground station in Calgary! Very excited

This video is 7 years old. Much has changed in terms of the city's Greenline planning, in particular the tunneling. They should really take this video down and upload a new one. The city also seems to be very hush-hush when it comes to this project. There's not a lot of up-to-date accurate information available to the public.

Please make this happen 😢, and keep us at home with our families. We are tired of driving between home and Fort Mac every 7 days for work...

Calgary will enjoy this line at its completion in June 3030 A.D

Once again Calgary transit seems to think we live in California, designing stations with sub-standard to no weather protection. Oh and do you like traffic and train collisions at level crossings? Well this line will have an absolute smorgasbord of opportunities for that to happen.

The places I could go, the life I could live.

That's an insane amount of tunneling. I sure hope they're building a ton of ghost stations in during construction.

I would like to see the whole greenline underground. Putting the LTR above ground causes to much disruption for the communities that the train goes through. Has the city looked at what bus routes are being replaced by the LRT? Are they creating pull ins at all stops for the buses. I see that in some areas Centre Street is reduced to 1 lane and not having bus pull ins slows down traffic all the way to downtown. I understand that the idea is to increase ridership on the LRT instead of driving but there will still be drivers and they need to be considered in this plan along with public transit commuters, reducing the lanes down to 1 lane in places does not make sense. I believe that the city is being short sited in their plan. Put it all underground so that it does not disrupt our communities.

This line should use Siemens S70 LRVs as their low floor LRVs!

I will believe it when i see it.

Going over Deerfoot on the south leg, if that doesn't sum it up for ya...Deerfoot isn't moving! Lmao

I will probably be dead by the time this is finished.

Add labels to all the streets it parallels and crosses! Help us understand where it is at all times!

Will there be to ways on the green line to enter downtown

I recommend that the line goes underground north of 20th Ave NW which is a East West feeder road for all communities from Banff Trail to 6th St NE.

Why did the trains change half way through?

Will this line take the whole day to ride???? Im falling asleep watching this 😴😴😴😴😴

Where will the car barns be located?

Neato!

The parts where the ground breaks like an earthquake and goes down is going to be costly.

Even these computer rendered presentations cost tons of money let alone the cost for this project

Great project get the it build and closing 1 centre street lane is not a big deal but maybe at level crossing and oprate the trains at 100 kph on the elevated section and in the seprate right of way part

my home sit right on top of the tunnel, will it affect my back yard water well?

I'm sure that a decision on which low floor LRVs the Green Line is going to use is a decision that will be made much further down the road, but I am curious to see (what appears to be) the Flexity Outlook vehicles used in the renderings. My concern with that would be that they have a 70km/h top speed whereas Siemens S70 vehicles have a top speed around 100km/h I think. Regardless, I look forward to learning more about the possible vehicles that will be used when that decision nears!

Anyone know the name of the song in the second half of the video?

It takes 10 years for discussion , Calgary is always like this , talk more than action . I do not believe this city can do anything

Future 36th street. Can't wait. :/

center street to 1 lane?

Can they at least make the tracks elevated and underground so that it won't interfere with road users? Take a look at Singapore's MRT system for example. And also maybe add platform screen doors at every station, sure it can be expensive but it prevents homicide and people falling onto the tracks and stuff.

Traffic along Centre St is going to become even more of a nightmare when this is built. I hope to be moving out of this city by the time this is built.. Who thought running the train on ground was a good idea? Please fire those people and redesign this to be something that actually works.

Interesting...I’m guessing if construction starts within the next 4 too 6 years and completed in phases let’s see this by 2030 2034 completion from North too south....

I love all the rendered compact cars as if most of Calgary doesn't drive vanity trucks and SUVs to go for groceries.

Can you please update this video with current alignment?

Keep underground so when snow happens it doesn't disrupt the trains

Isn’t it silly that they are going under the river instead of over?

there's more then 1 underground station? i assumed there was only 1

almost 3 years and basically no work done.

Now just start building.....have this done before more kids grow up and hate transit...

Why does it have to be Low Floor? Can't it be like a subway?

Build it asap pls

hi mr perfects class how are you guys doing today

Transit system on grade level sucks ass in Calgary, then they wonder why people choose to drive and live in the suburbs, no one wants to be standing at LRT station with minimal shelter and prone to delays with a car hitting a train at an intersection.

they should use high floor instead

I wish i can draw

Our drivers need to get a lot better, and perhaps if we all had requirements of snow tires, regular vehicle inspections, then it may be a possibility that level grade LRT may be a good and low risk option. But that is unlikely, therefore it would be better elevated, or underground. Considering the snow and weather in Calgary, underground would be most reasonable, however the costs associated with it may be undesirable. Increasing the population density around centre st. (which there are more apartments creeping up) may be able to justify the costs. For long term Calgary, if the population does keep increasing then underground would be likely a far better investment. The current plan seems like a recipe for disaster, with who knows how many traffic accidents occurring, low speed (inefficient) LRT and disruption of service.

Build the entire North Line above ground like Vancouver Skytrain; green strips and bike paths run along beneath, and grid roads continue to pass beneath. Land is used to the max. But instead the usual short-sighted city planners have decided to blow the budget on a subway from downtown to about 23rd Ave N., then ruin scenic Centre Street north of that, similar to the barren moonscape of LRT along 36 St. N.E.. Subways cost roughly 10x as much as surface track, build and elevated train. And aside from destroying scenic Centre Street North, what bonehead has decided to throw Centre St. through Highland and Tuxedo entirely to the dogs by reducing traffic to one lane, and only there? Give your heads a shake city planning; you want to spend $B's, so rip out a row of houses; huge gains for lesser pains. Centre street is a major traffic artery and should remain so, destroyed. Calgarians have to look back on short-sighted stupiditye of past planners (e.g. Crowchild Bridge/Memorial bottlenecks), and it looks like this will continue. When future city hall finally realizes the single lane blunder through Highland/Tuxedo has to be fixed, will Centre already be boxed in by high end real estate, approved by ignoramuses?!

Disappointed it wasn't a cab driver's view!

Either have it part underground or above grade. No level crossings!!!!!!

Reading these comments people just bitch and complain about anything in there cities. Just be glad you have an LRT system in Calgary and a properly planned city with well kept roads. I live in Winnipeg and we can only dream of a transit system like calgary,s.

Probably won't be in my lifetime.

Why is this not going to the Airport? someone mentioned a sky train would be a 1/3 the cost...pffft it would blow over in Calgary so the cost of putting it back together every year would add up :D on another note what is with the c-train crap, build a proper subway and bury it all.... in for a penny in for a dollar i guess. It would be quite the undertaking however and i am sure that will not be the final product.

More grid separation

Some of these stops are so far apart and are in the middle of nowhere..

this is a lot like street car to be honest. it should be underground.

I sure hope CoC monitors this comment section... What the heck are you doing with the center street north section!!! Keep it under ground. I can't believe that you'd actually think that running it at street level, in the middle of the road, is a good idea! So now there is going to be no 3 lanes for rush hour and it will be reduced to one lane each direction? Seriously guys wake up! A mass transit system should never interfere with the continuity and flow of vehicle traffic. Have you learned nothing from the colossal mistake that 36st is? Where are you finding your civil engineer's? Maybe this should be a provincial project?

Skytrain of Vancouver is itself a tourist attraction which means bring in cash to Vancouver economy.

Great project, but will take quite long.

Bruh homeless is gonna live in the tunnel stations and could you please make ticket gates so people won't sneak in without a ticket

Booyakasha

If City of Council can actually make common sense decisions without putting every issue out to a vote, grab a flipping back bone will ya. Green L. needs to underground. I hope this happens in my lifetime? Very nice graphic presentation though.

A total waste of money, they should expand the existing lines and leave this North people catch the bus

Panama City's rapid transit is much much better than Calgary's. No level crossings!

LMAO Centre Street is going to be absolutely and royally fucked

Lmao only 12 centuries to go guys!

As the City of Calgary gets bigger road traffic will increase, as a city of over a Million people do you not want to plan for the future. Wouldn’t it be a smart idea and a safe idea to remove all level crossings and any interaction between Pedestrians, Cars/Truck and Trains that meet at the transit lines? Having trains lines running down the center of main road is a terrible idea, removing a lane of traffic on an already tight road for space will make things worse for public safety. Plus you throw in level crossing at ever road intersection makes me think the City of Calgary and the city planners have no idea what you are doing. Having to stop at level crossing will cause bottle necks at intersections, causing loss of productivity across the city and not to mention the safety of the public and road users. How many deaths will there be because First Responders are stuck in traffic because of congestion caused by level crossing. Have you not studied the traffic flow and congestion caused by the existing rail lines in the city, have you not heard of the deaths caused by pedestrians being hit by trains. Why are the public being hit by trains, it’s because stations are designed wrong, intersections are congested and you allow traffic to come in close proximity to trains. Google Melbourne and the removal of Level Crossing, google Singapore and platform safety barriers, if you want more people to travel on the transit system make it better, make it safer for all not just pedestrians. It may cost more but it will SAVE LIVES and you grandchildren will thank you

cars DON"T mix with train

The bridge between New Brunswick and PEI only cost about 5 billion (1999). this thing running through the middle of center street is gonna cost 9.5 billion. Better yet, the city is still gonna keep the same bus routes on center. Center St will be a slum. I wont go near it. It takes just under 30 mins to drive from 16th ave to beddington now as it is.

I can see many places where I can get kill in a simple snow related accident by this C-train design that goes by the cars!! worse possible design. Traffic is gonna be worse. This C train is actually gonna go slower than the current one. I did the calculation and it is gonna take me more time from home to school than it takes me from the currently. And don't even mention that the stations are not gonna be sheltered!!! Is like the perfect transit solution for 1930 YYC. I actually asked them about the long commute time and they said it was not important because the train was for people who didn't have CARS!! . The train is for people like me who dont like driving because it is a waste of time to sit in a car, and who love the environment and prefer a clean city. Should not take more than 1hr to go from one side of the city to the other. They also told me that train by the cars, and the low plataform non-sheltered design was to integrate the C -train to the community (more like in Europe.). I dont think it does that at all. Have you seen the Freccia Ros in italy, or the trains in Hong Kong!!! that is integrating the community and providing services. we need to built for the future. By the time thsi project is completed in 2028 they are gonna have to start building it again. maybe have less stations but better built.

Translink's Canada Line - YVR Airport to Waterfront

Looks expensive, also looks like a 10 year project.

The BYD Skyrail would have been the best choice for Calgary at 1/3 the cost with the entire 40 Km Green Line being completed within 5 years. en.byd.com/usa/skyrail/

Poor planning. Waste of taxpayer's money. I would like to see the line elevated or underground with no level signalized crossings!!!

Build the entire green line underground = better planning for generations to come. Less accidents, underground stations are warmer, less wear and tear of track (No need to shut down train service during the long weekend to do maintenance work, which is common problem in Calgary), do not interfere with traffic, etc. LRT- a prescription for disaster; LRT causes accidents resulting in death, destruction of property, traffic delays, street closures, and congestion. Hate LRT, It's slow compare to real metro, all the power line really kills landscaping makes streets look really ugly, and design of the car... really bad looking.

This is the worst design possible. Where are the cars going to go? Deerfoot trail would have to accommodate 20 thousand extra cars per day just because of this train at ground level.

Wouldn't it be easier just to give every Calgarian a jetpack?

Ugh this should be all underground. All the planners have to be fired. The city keeps making the sane damn mistakes and would sets why there's not a new outcome. Does it make any fucking sense to put this above ground on Center Street? When currently having it four lanes is not even enough to keep traffic flowing, does it make sense to take it down to one lane each direction?

Too bad my stupid alderman Sean Chu said people in his ward would want this. I’m one of many who disagree with him.

Never built it!!

Vote down Nenshi

another wast of tax money