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'Who's Next' on Grilling JR? Today, JR and Conrad look back at Goldberg's WWE run! Topics include Goldberg before his wrestling days, signing with WCW, negotiations to bring Bill into WWE, issues with Triple H, his eventual debut, Gillberg, becoming a 'maniac' backstage, WrestleMania XX's infamous match with Brock, and much more!
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@DaKoolDude Год назад

Need a Scott Steiner WWE JR episode

@geogonz352 Год назад

💯

@stephanielopez6275 Год назад

Please 🙏

@stephanielopez6275 Год назад

Especially since the anniversary of that horrendous Rumble match from 2003 coming up.

@nateamstutz2 Год назад

@@stephanielopez627520 years almost my goodness

@frankE91210 Год назад

holla if you hear me

@mlamanno Год назад

5:00 is when it begins. Merry Christmas to Conrad and JR for a great series!

@Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster Год назад

21:34. JR is wrong here because the Rock wasn't a babyface when he and Goldberg wrestled Rock was still a heel after Mania 19 when he beat Austin so for at least 2 or 3 months Rocky was a heel. It wasn’t 2 babyfaces going head to head.

@C.I.A.Retired Год назад

Holy shit thank fucking Christ you noticed that how will life ever be the same? Thank you so much for pointing that out people will sleep soooooo much better ..1800 get a life

@daleharris3809 Год назад

I mean he was acting like a heel sure but he was still getting face reactions. People couldn't hate Rock no matter how hard he tried

@JackN-eh2cx Год назад

@daleharris3809 Um no he wasn't getting babyface reactions. I'm rewatching the Rock Heel run from February 2003 to June 2003 right now Rock was booed brother you need to watch it again yourself or come up with something better to say.

@smoke4344 Год назад

I listen to this everyday jr keep going

@Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster Год назад

1:32:45. To be perfectly honest if I was Goldberg and I heard one of my bosses say that. I'd of asked for my release and get whatever I was owed. Totally unprofessional of Liden McMahon to say that if anything it proves that WWE lost interest in Goldberg and they probably should of never made a deal with him.

@matthewvarnam4302 Год назад

JR said Vince McMahon didn't like wrestlers that had agents..... probably cause he didn't won't to have to pay out more money.

@matthewvarnam4302 Год назад

When JR talks about Jericho wanting to kick out twice from the spear and the jackhammer and Jr talks about see how it spreads like wildfire to another wrestler wanting to protect his gimmick. I remember Macho Man Randy Savage pitching a fit about protecting his gimmick so it could have started with him or maybe even far back as Hulk Hogan

@kevinbudzinski9576 Год назад

You guys should do a Booker T episode in the future!

@NitroNEXT Год назад

It's weird to hear a part of your childhood that you enjoyed talked about like it was a total disaster. In hindsight the flaws were apparent but I do have fondness for many moments in his 03 WWE run. The WM20 match was burned in my mind as a downer though, particularly with them leaving afterward. I still find it fascinating how he and Austin were both surrogates for one another after Austin initially retired and when Bill couldn't conclude the Lesnar storyline.

@blueblur2273 Год назад

The clumsiness with the way they handled Goldberg initial run is exactly the reason why Austin left the company the year before. The 90s creative was about making characters more edgy and bad-ass. The 00s creative was about making characters more silly. Storylines went from Austin ruining Mcmahon's plans to chase him out of the WWE to Mcmahon trying to get his wrestlers to kiss his ass *for an entire show*

@Y2JLionHeart Год назад

I don't think that's a fair description of what frustrated Austin. I think it's more accurate to say that Goldberg and Austin both were dissatisfied because their egos were too big.

@frankE91210 Год назад

Think of this from Jericho's perspective. He left WCW and helped contribute to WWF winning the proverbial Monday night war, and to thank him for this he is put in a lower spot the stars from the company he left in the first place. What a slap in the face.

@darthsebio1726 Год назад

No slap in the face..he simply was never on that exclusive main event level like Austin,Rock,Undertaker,HHH,Hogan & even Goldberg where...

@NitroNEXT Год назад

The stories I've heard about Chris is that he was a backstage politician. RVD said as much that he only wanted to get himself over. It might've sucked to lose to Bill with their history but it was best for business and made the most sense. Chris didn't see the big picture, just saw himself and what he wanted. Kicking out of the spear would have killed Goldberg's finish and made it common right out of the gate. Jericho was mid card in WCW and was nowhere near as dominant as Goldberg in WWE. He should've been squashed and got his revenge helping Evolution.

@Matty_Mac Год назад

@GJR Only months before, it took The Rock 3 Rock Bottoms to finish Stone Cold, including 2 kick outs, total of 3 finishes in a row. I assume then that this is only acceptable in this case, as it was his last match, albeit unnoticed to the general fan. Much respect & thank you

@The_Sage_of_Six_Paths Год назад

Thank God he didn't win with that silly elbow drop

@AD-ur1fk Год назад

@@The_Sage_of_Six_Paths that silly elbow drop was more over than certain wrestlers. And he beat hogan with it

@patrickdoherty4527 Год назад

So...Jericho was Meltzer's source.

@frankE91210 Год назад

I was a WWF kid and hated WCW at the time so to see the WCW guys come in and go over our boys was an insult

@frankE91210 Год назад

we had been told how crap-ass wcw every week for the last 10 years so why are their guys coming in and beating ours? we must really suck

@matthewvarnam4302 Год назад

NWA and WCW had the greatest wrestler's ever in any business. No one could ever replace Ric Flair and There will never be another Ric Flair or Sting, Lex Luger, Ricky the Dragon Steamboat, dick slider, Harley Race, Dusty Rhodes, the Road Warriors rock and roll Express Midnight Express Steiner Brothers, fabulous three birds, Rick Rude and don't ever forget that everyone's favorite the Undertaker started out in the WCW. The list can go on forever....hell maybe that's why the Undertaker was so good because he took from what he learned in WCW and brought it to WWF.........The only reason why WCW went under was cause there simply wasn't enough promotion going on they just started the business up and there was some throat cutting going on like Vince McMahon buying different territories out to make WCW more isolated. WCW is simply the best......Wooooo!!

@namikstudios Год назад

Now imagine being a WCW kid, hating WWE, then watching them bury megastars like DDP and Goldberg with shocking bad storylines. Thats what was actually insulting.

@frankE91210 Год назад

The entire world could tell that Tony Kahn doesnt ask JR anything about creative. The ratings prove it too, 361,000 viewers? 😂😂😂

@AlexThorn Год назад

I'd pay to hear Jr and king commenting again BUT not on the current product. On matches they didn't call. Such as WCW, TNA, NWA, ECW ppv matches (sting vs Hogan, Goldberg vs ddp, Bully Ray vs Hardy in the cage, flair vs steamboat 94) that would be INCREDIBLE.

@shanequinichett425 3 месяца назад

"I am a huge Goldberg fan!" I enjoyed his feud with The Rock and H.H.H. His best work is from WCW no question.

@darthsebio1726 Год назад

The way wwe booked Goldberg was just horrible..wcw in 2000/01 booked him better than wwe did in 2003/04...

@fizzyfuzz5878 Год назад

Wish you would've dug deeper into that SummerSlam '03 elimination chamber main event. It wasn't about the sledgehammer being a good or bad way for Goldberg to lose, discuss should he have lost that match period? No! Keep in mind the missteps in his booking to that point, then watch that match. Before the finish he was booked perfectly. Doing awesome looking power moves and spots, the fans were going ballistic and chanting his name loud. And triple h barely did anything in that match because of his injury. That's when they needed to pull the trigger.

@Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster Год назад

I hate the holidays 😒. It's always cool every year I seem to get sick with something and I work with the public and they are just a bouch of assholes 🤷. I can't wait for April to get here 😮‍💨.

@TheGoldnDog Год назад

I need JR to tell me to check my man card on a daily basis.

@mikemccullagh814 Год назад

should have had him win at summerslam

@SameerPrehistorica Год назад

JR is right, they should have made the singles match between Goldberg and Triple H at 6-8 mins instead of 15 mins.

@lindseykipp191 Год назад

I’m glad the online community wasn’t so big back then. Goldbergs first run isn’t nearly as enjoyable when you know about all the backstage BS

@thickerconstrictor9037 Год назад

For years and years and years and years I remember Goldberg versus Lesnar being such a horrible match and how many people have talked over the years since about how bad it was. But you know what it wasn't that bad. It was actually decent. I mean no one expected it to be a five-star classic but if you take out the crowd booing the shit out of both of them because they were leaving, the match itself all the very basic because neither man cared didn't have any big botches or anything like that and was nowhere near the worst WrestleMania match ever. I was just one of many average big man matches. And while Lesnar absolutely was capable of much better especially compared to the year before, he got a decent big man match out of Goldberg. I honestly think that everyone remembers it being so awful because the crowd tore it to shreds and neither man gave a shit. But it was better than their matches more recently but the crowd was behind the more recent matches. I truly think that if you meet the audio from the original and pipe in a hot crowd and just cut out the parts where the guys are flipping off the crowd and shit, the match is actually not bad at all

@adamkeller7749 Год назад

Bill was simply spoiled when he joined WWe and never had to put much work in WCW. He had no clue what it was like putting work in to get over with the fans.

@delbertprince5302 Год назад

| am a big fan of Goldberg

@kevolin4521 5 месяцев назад

Vince buried every single WCW star

@jonathancoleman6482 Год назад

Need a Batista one jr

@Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster Год назад

I always heard Goldberg was hard to work with. Like his attitude was bad. Like dealing with the Ultimate Warrior or Triple H during the early 2000's 🤔.

@matthewvarnam4302 Год назад

You won't find any better seafood than Myrtle Beach South Carolina and there is no better tasting Mandy fresh oysters you get out of North Carolina in Little River and Varanm town.... You can bet on that.

@jaredbrady5566 Год назад

@1:48:00 any wrestler who holds the BGB upside down will inevitably fail.

@187robthemob4 Год назад

To be fair the formula eventually stopped working in WCW too

@delbertprince5302 Год назад

Goldberg and Stonecold dominated the wrestling circuit.....

@suitedandbooted363 Год назад

Rock and Stone Cold did pal

@nickkosavvy8225 Год назад

Need a full Rey mysterio episode and a Booker t

@matthewvarnam4302 Год назад

1:10:25. JR talks about where Goldberg would have to use 2 Spears or 2 jackhammers and he says that he doesn't think it's a good idea to do that...... Well I agree with JR.....I remember 1 of Goldberg and Brock Lesnar's rematch they both did like 10 of there finishing moves on one another.... To me that's just ignorant.

@MrDrmorbid Год назад

Whoa, JR commented positively on HHH's handling of business right now. JR must also be pissed at AEW.

@marquezjones5417 Год назад

Does Metzler get a percentage from all these pods Or does Conrad have a man crush

@eddead4235 Год назад

Hbk avoided him cuz he would killed him like he did hogan 2005 on promos

@darthsebio1726 Год назад

Tony Khan does not consult with Jim Ross?..wow,he must be a real expert with everything pro Wrestling...

@holycow3890 Год назад

🤣nice room jr is in.

@schizzo8959 Год назад

"The biggest star in the company says adios". Hogan?

@jordanbailey5456 Год назад

rock?

@LordPeaceFrog Год назад

💥🦵I don't think Brett Hart enjoyed Goldberg's unpredictable charm 😉

@AlexThorn Год назад

Lmao

@tonymickens8803 Год назад

Prime Nikita would have KILLED Goldberg And Lesnar, He was a BEAST in the early 80's!

@Webbie2689 Год назад

I love what Jericho did to Goldberg, but let’s be clear, choking someone unconscious with a guillotine choke is not nearly as easy as JR makes it sound here.

@thrax.x7161 Год назад

More watch alongs

@delbertprince5302 Год назад

I miss wrestling in the 1990s ,just like I miss rap music in the 1990s....

@DNSV-ex8of Год назад

Sports and entertainment was never better than the 90s.. look at football the cowboy dynasty look at basketball ball the bulls dynasty and Michael jordon. Nascar was at its peak.. just like wrestlings 90s attitude era and the monday night wars.. some of the greatest and highest rated movies came out of the 90s.. forest Gump titanic to name a couple.. action stars like van dam seagal Schwarzenegger Stallone were at there peak... the 90s was the best time for television all the way around no matter what you liked....

@delbertprince5302 Год назад

@@DNSV-ex8of you just broke it down….you are right about the movies…

@matthewvarnam4302 Год назад

@@DNSV-ex8of It could be because back then people gave it there all and they weren't stuck-up like most people of today and because they actually care about what they did. Now days the people in wrestling don't know $h!t and they don't care about the fans and they don't know or don't won't to connect with the fans. In other words they don't give a damn as long as they get paid $$$,$$$

@AmericanGypsy206 3 месяца назад

Wrestlemania 19 was in my hometown of Seattle Washington. I was there live in the crowd and I think it was a huge mistake not having an austin vs Goldberg dream match instead we got Austin vs rock for the third straight time and a night later on raw Goldberg debut WWE really dropped the ball here and maybe I might piss off some diehard Steve Austin fans, but I don’t give a shit. I’m going to be honest after WCW went out of business and the Monday night war was over Steve Austin was no longer relevant. He was passed his prime this is why in 2002 he wasn’t booked very strong and he walked out of WWE he couldn’t face the fact that he was no longer the top guy there is a lot of parallels between Steve Austin and hulk hogan they didn’t want to wrestle certain wrestlers. They were very cocky and Steve Austin did not want to put over Brock Lesnar.. Steve Austins prime years was 1996 1997 1998 and 1999 by the year 2000 wrestlers like Triple H The Big Show Chris Jericho brock Lesnar was gaining lot of popularity, and Austin was very jealous of those guys success because he wasn’t the top star going into the 2000s. He was a shell of his former self he reached his peak by the year 2000 and if he didn’t get injured at summer slam 1997, maybe we would’ve had a few more good years out of Austin

@CraigSmithII Год назад

Goldberg's 2003 WWE run was--& let's be real--garbage. His feud with the Rock was good but the match was so-so, his match with Jericho to me was meant to sabotage Goldberg & his feud with Evolution was becoming tiresome

@rogregg29445 Год назад

What killed it was they had him wrestle long matches like 20 plus minutes the way the second run was handled much better in terms of it was unpredictable stuff. His world title matches should have been the only ones with any length. Him not winning the belt until unforgiven was a month too late

@CraigSmithII Год назад

@@rogregg29445 I agree with you there. I also think those 20 minute matches were meant to make him look bad. I enjoyed his 2nd run myself, but that 1st one though? SMH. I can kind of relate to him in regards to how he was being treated

@blueblur2273 Год назад

Let's be honest the whole product by 2003 was garbage. Creative went to sh*t after WM17

@CraigSmithII Год назад

@@blueblur2273 SmackDown in 2003 was pretty damn good until after WM20.

@blueblur2273 Год назад

@@CraigSmithII If you compare it to today sure. If you compare it to the product we were getting in the late 90s I'd say no. That's why ratings were down and top talents were frustrated with their creative and leaving. Vince was back to sticking guys with wacky gimmicks that didn't fit them instead of giving his talent the creative freedom that allowed them to win the war in the 1st place.

@345power6 Год назад

Goldberg wasn’t good on the mic 🎤 but did all the talking in the ring

@heelspawn8023 Год назад

Does Conrad work for Dave Meltzer?? Cause he's always mentioning his opinions on a podcast & it's kinda annoying.. At first I thought Conrad was obsessed with Meltzer (in a weird way) but i'm beginning to think he's being paid to share that man's thoughts about every topic discussed.. You can easily tell JR & Eric Bischoff aren't fond of Meltzer at all lol..

@codyjohnson8959 Год назад

"Vince was probably underwhelmed of Bill's lack of product knowledge" You'd think that would've played in his favor with Vince.

@T.H.U.G Год назад

Problem Identifier

@The_Texorcist Год назад

Was never a fan of Goldberg because he was all style and no substance. He was a generic strong man. He couldn’t cut a promo, he couldn’t put on a technical match… he was just a big guy who had short squash matches. That to me was never entertaining. Being a big guy does not prohibit one from actually being capable at cutting promos, being a big guy does not prohibit one from putting on long engaging matches. Case in point The Undertaker. He was a monster but he could put on a promo and he could wrestle for more than 5 minutes.

@Jukeboxster Год назад

What you described is exactly what he was supposed to be, a big strong guy. If you view wrestlers through the lens as everyone needs to be able to have the gift of gab on the microphone or have a technical match, doing drop toe holds and side russian legsweeps, then yeah a lot of people aren't going to fit that mold. Undertaker was a freak of nature, there's a reason he was called the Phenom, not really fair to expect every big guy to do what he does. Sometimes a guy's "promo" is his appearance instead of his talking, like Andre the Giant or Yokozuna. Andre talked and sounded like he had a mouth full of marbles, but still attracted an audience because he was big as hell.

@adamkeller7749 Год назад

@@Jukeboxster That's why Andre only worked as an attraction when he showed up a couple of times a year. Goldberg simply didn't work in the long run cause he was boring. His stick was up in WCW after 1998 as well.

@nbaldwin45 Год назад

It's funny, on Bruce Prichard's podcast on Goldberg in WWE, he put ALL the blame on Goldberg for his failure and claimed Goldberg had taken responsibility as well. With Meltzer blaming creative, that's just another reason why Bruce hates Uncle Dave.

@jordanbailey5456 Год назад

bruce is an ass licking stooge

@Y2JLionHeart Год назад

Creative definitely dropped the ball, but Goldberg was also an insecure goof.