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Most estimates I’ve read are in the neighborhood of 30 years. I love this film! I also highly recommend What About Bob? My favorite Bill Murray comedy, and from the same period. In his career.
I think it's worth noting that this really was the first of the "time loop" stories in mainstream movies. It might not seem like an original premise now, but when it came out, it was seen as really unique. Now, whenever another time loop story comes out, people inevitably refer to it as a "Groundhog Day type of story."
It is the one that really made the "time loop" trope popular, but there has been other movies as early as 1964 "The Time Travelers" that has used the same trope. In literature it goes as early as 1922 "Worm Ouroboros". Even Star Trek: TNG had a time loop story a full year before this one came out.
It's a bit sad that what's makes a genre-defining story is mainstream appeal and not the quality of the writing... not that the writing is bad of course, I'm just saying, the general audience is a fickle biest.
Yes! It’s fun and teaches a few things: 1) Baby steps through anything difficult. 2) You are your own best therapist. 3) Winnipesaukee is hard to spell.
The way Chris Elliott delivers the line “well no, probably not now” is pure gold lol. Phil was such a jerk, his coworker isn’t really affected by watching him die a horrible death lol
"The movie, as everyone knows, is about a man who finds himself living the same day over and over and over again. He is the only person in his world who knows this is happening, and after going through periods of dismay and bitterness, revolt and despair, suicidal self-destruction and cynical recklessness, he begins to do something that is alien to his nature. He begins to learn." - Roger Ebert
The filmmakers said in the commentary to this film that after it came out they received communications from people of pretty much every major religion happily proclaiming that the filmmakers "get" them. It seems to have universal relevance philosophically.
IMO, one of the most significant lines in the film is Phil’s response to Rita telling him he’ll never love anyone but himself. “I don’t even like myself!” That’s him telling the absolute truth. The powers that be have decided that he has to learn to like himself. The cycle of non-ending Groundhog Days ends when he tells her, “whatever happens tomorrow, I’m happy now.” That’s when it starts to snow in town for the first time.
Yeah, I really like this movie as a more complex "Winter Morality Tale" than "Scrooge/d/A Christmas Carol", largely because it's not just about him being shown explicitly what's wrong, how it got that way, and both how to fix it and the stakes at play (including The Longest Chain in Hell), Groundhog Day means that in order to truly love himself, he has to become someone who can care about others proactively, and thus feel like there's something in himself that he can love. He knows he's an asshat at the beginning, without it being excused by a backstory we just figure life has worn him out
One could argue that his change was acquiring the capacity for true love, of others and himself. In contrast to his earlier revealing statement of “I don’t even like myself.”
Repeated viewings of this always yield new details in the background. Last time I watched it, I noticed that when Phil takes the homeless man to the hospital, you can see the boy who fell from the tree, wearing a cast and sitting in a wheelchair.
"The whistling belly button trick" is a guy without a shirt wearing a giant hat that covers his head, and a face drawn on his torso, with the belly button as the mouth, and there's a song playing with whistling in it, and the guy basically puffs his stomach in and out to pretend it's whistling. It was a staple at high school talent shows and local charity telethons in the 70s and 80s.
No one knows how long he was in the loop. The writer had one guess, and the director, Harold Ramis, had another. It was obviously long enough for him to learn French, ice carving, piano playing and many other things, including the lives of other people. Harold Ramis was a Buddhist, and he once said that Phil had to stay there until he burned all his karma and could start over. The many Groundhog days are like the many lives of a reincarnated individual. I remember seeing it in the theater and feeling unsure about how long we had been sitting there. It seemed like the movie could go on indefinitely. . . Personally, I think it's Bill Murray's second best film (the third best being "Quick Change"), but without a doubt his best film is "Lost in Translation". He should have gotten an Oscar for that one. I recommend it highly. BTW, Quick Change is the only film that Murray co-directed.
Bill Murray went to the Groundhog Day musical. Twice. Two nights running.The script states that he was in there for hundreds of years. I'd love it. I'd finally get to read everything.
The Groundhog legend started in Medieval Europe when people noticed that cloudy weather in Early February trapped heat in the atmosphere and made spring come sooner. The Germans told a similar story about Bears and German immigrants in Pennsylvania Americanized it into Groundhogs.
Intriguing when you think about it: Logically, you'd think that if the groundhog can see his shadow, it must be sunny which would suggest spring coming sooner.
Don't forget that the most popularized version, even in Germany was with Badgers, "Badger Day" (Dachstag), but there weren't any in the new world for such a thing, so it was Groundhogs. Just like the original Jack O'Lanterns were Turnips and Rutabegas.
We have the same tradition here with the bear in Serbia (Eastern Europe), it's on February 15th every year. Only nobody takes out a bear from the cave to ask about the weather 😂
The only similar thing we have in the UK is Saint Swithun’s day which is 15th July. No animals involved though. The tradition is simply that if it rains on St. Swithun’s day, it will rain everyday for the next 40 days. And if it is dry, it will be dry for 40 days.
The legend of the groundhog comes from the Farmer's Almanac. The almanac does not specifically talk about a groundhog in Pennsylvania, but does say that if in early February the skies are clear, it is going to be very cold, and winter will continue. If the day is overcast, it will be warmer, and the likelihood of an early spring is possible. In Oregon, we don't have groundhogs, but we have beavers. Lots of beavers. Here, February 2 is known as Beaver Day: Exactly the same as groundhog, but we adjust for our region.
It's fun to think about him being in that loop, and how long he's been in it, but I think it's a little horrifying when you realize he's been living that one day for YEARS. Nothing else at all has happened to him in all that time. He knows those events in intimate detail. Then, suddenly, it's all gone. This repetition that's been his life for a really long time, just stops. That has to be scary for him.
Yeah, suddenly going back to normal time will be an adjustment for him. But I think he'll be OK. He's got some new skills and knowledge that he didn't have before (piano, French, ice sculpting), a small town full of people that love and respect him, and a beautiful woman by his side. And lots of insurance. The insurance thing is symbolic in itself. After all, you don't need insurance if there's no tomorrow. You only need insurance when you don't know what's going to happen.
@@PhilBagelsbut how impactful would losing the security of knowing exactly what's going to happen at every turn to not knowing anything anymore. It could be scary for some.
When the 12-yr-old me saw this in the movie theater, I let out an audible groan the final time they showed us the clock flipping over... which, of course, is when it turns out to be tomorrow. Everyone chuckled at my expense.
That first morning at the bed and breakfast: "Did you want to talk about the weather, or were you just making chitchat?" I actually used this scene to set the stage for an academic paper I wrote once in college, where I'd done a sociolinguistic study of how it is that people actually talk about the weather. (Short version: it's almost always a safe topic for chitchat. No one ever outright disagrees when you remark that "The weather sure is nice today.")
Weather is generally a safe subject, true. Sometimes though, just for fun, if I'm at a party I'll yell out, "So what do you guys think of Donald Trump and abortion?" just to get things stirred up and interesting. Not!
There was a budget spoof of this a couple decades later; basically an exboyfriend and a fiance both show up to meet the wife-to-be's parents for christmas, and of course a timeloop ensues for romcom shenanigans.
The most profound commentary I've ever heard was to notice that Phil committed suicide many times before he ever thought to start helping others. He would rather die than change. Humans can become so egotistical and selfish that we would rather die than become selfless beings. The spiritual message of the movie is that when we only love ourselves we will suffer but when we love others we are fulfilled. It's the most counter-intuitive and difficult lesson of life that the more love you give away, the more full you are. The more you hold your love in, the more empty you are.
At one point at about 26 min the piano is playing Rachmaninoff's Variation 18 of a theme on Paganini, the same tune used for the movie Somewhere in Time, of which she MUST see....another Time Travel romance...
One of my personal fav things of this movie is I'm pittsburgh born lol. This movie is not as light hearted as it seems. The writers have confirmed that Phil is stuck in the loop for the equivilent of 10k years! That's terrifying! Amazing as always Jen! Can't wait for the next one.
One of my favorite pieces of trivia about this movie centers around the fact that Bill Murray had a reputation to become increasingly obnoxious as the filming progresses, and Harold Ramis the director knew it well. His plan involved filming all the scenes in backwards order, starting with the end. In this way, if his irritation rubbed off on his character during filming, it would absolutely work to their advantage.
This movie hits home with me so much as I've pretty much been living the same day over and over since September 2007, due to health issues causing me to be pretty much housebound. Every day I wake up and pretty much just watch RU-vid videos until I go to bed and do it over again the next day, every day. 😔
I relate to this _so_ much! *Fibromyalgia* & *Arthritis* limit my mobility, so I can’t do much beyond just watching endless stuff on YT or streaming; *Complex PTSD* and all its associated problems, incl. severe *Anxiety,* mean that I can’t go out; severe *Depression* means I don’t even _want_ to go out (or even get out of bed, some days). *_*Sending Love*_* ❤️
Such a great movie. On the surface it seems like a fun little story, and it is, but it's one of the rare movies that the more you think about it the deeper (and better) it gets. I like that there's never any explanation of why it's happening, nor is it really clear why it stops exactly when it does. Everyone is free to come up with their own explanation (or not, if they'd prefer). And then there are things like the old homeless man, who shows up in the very first time through the day (though Phil completely ignores him and most people probably don't really notice him at that point in the movie). Only later do you know that it's his last day of life, and no matter what Phil does he can't save him. On the other hand he's able to make a big difference in some other people's lives, like the kid he saves from broken bones or the choking guy who's life he maybe does save.
Four Weddings and a Funeral is a great and touching British movie about romance and friendship with Andie MacDowell. Probably won't bring in lots of views but I recommend it regardless if only to watch in your own time.
speaking of British rom coms, Hugh Grant (from Four Weddings and a Funeral) is also in Love Actually, which is IMO one of the very best of the genre. not a particular fan of the genre myself (although one might argue Groundhog Day is a rom com) at least in its overdone formulaic iterations, plots and tropes, but it was very well done...
I'm with you on this - Groundhog Day is one of my favourites of all time. I've always liked Bill Murray anyway, and as you recognised, this film is a lot more complex that it at first appears. There are so many layers to this film exploring themes about time and eternity, death and destiny, choice, self-realisation and development, etc, yet there's also romance and humour in there and overall it's a wholesome, feelgood film. Phil goes from scared to self-indulgent to manipulative to desperate to depressed, but it was only when he learned to stop being self-focused and genuinely started to care for Rita and improve himself for the benefit of others that he was released from the 'captivity' of groundhog day. If you watch the extra commentary on the extended DVD, the director Harold Ramis (who also plays the neurologist in the scene at 11:02) says that Phil was probably stuck in that same day for many, many years, although as with much of this film (like why it happened in the first place), it's left to the imagination of the viewer. Sadly, Murray and Ramis fell out during the making of Groundhog Day and didn't talk for years (which is why Bill is not in the 'Making of' features), but fortunately Murray relented and they made up just before Ramis died in 2014. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2d7kkecft4w.html
One of my favorite movies ever made for many reasons, not least of which because of the incredible performances. It was really the first time people went from “Bill Murray is a great comedy performer,” to “Bill Murray is an amazing actor.” Also, February 2nd is my birthday, and having an excuse to watch this movie annually is never a bad thing. Glad it won you over, but more importantly, I’m glad you picked up on how manipulative he was at the start. I’ve seen some people totally gloss over that watching this for the first time. In that way, the movie has an important message about the counterintuitive way to achieve your goals in life; don’t charge straight at them. Phil’s attempts to sleep with Rita are ultimately shallow tricks intended to get what he wants, ethics be damned. In the end, by bettering himself and not trying to impress her, just doing things he finds fulfilling and that can be of service to others, he gets it almost by accident. Storming the castle is a bad strategy, it’s better to be the kind of person who will be invited in.
This movie holds a special place in my heart because it was my grandpa’s favourite movie. I used to watch it all the time with him when I was growing up and his birthday was on Groundhog Day as well, I miss him everyday.
Groundhog Day was the 1st movie that set up the idea of time loops. Whenever any TV show or movie has it, or references living in a time loop they ALWAYS refer to this movie as the touchstone reference. No one did it before them, or better.
Bill Murray at his best, and it always helps when Harold Ramis is a part of it. A different type of comedy for sure, and Murray, with his Groucho Marx humor, is just perfect in it. Jen, loved your reaction to this. It's great to see you cheering for Murray and Andie McDowell to end up together. A charming and delightful reaction. Keep 'em coming.
To me, this is the best movie of all times It made me fall in love with Andie MacDovell and helped to adjust my own approach to life and people. While I don't have a strict rule, I watch it maybe every 2 years - simply once I feel like needing it. Have been waiting for Jen's reaction for some time and the did it
The scene that always strikes me as with the elderly, homeless man. Even though he’s trying to be kind, he’s trying to change the course of the future with what he wants. And this is a reminder that sometimes things just happen and he cannot control it. So instead of focusing on, always trying to save the man, he instead made his last day a nice one.
This is a real event. Held every year in Punxsutawney Pennsylvania. It attacts a decent amount of people also. Its just something to do in the middle of winter. The groundhog actually lives in the local library. The big Groundhog sign, which Bill Murry drives through and destroys, is still standing today in Punxsy. Punxsutawney has around 40 large "groundhog" statues placed around the town with maps for visitors to go and locate them all. Its a unique way to get visitors to engage with the town. There is also a sizeable community of Amish living in the area as well.
A fun little easter egg: The second song Phi plays at the Groundhog Dinner is a riff on the theme to the movie "Somewhere in time (1980)" where the hero goes back in time to woo the girl of his dreams.
6:17 JEN SCORES AGAIN 🎉 No don't stop doing that I see you do it all the time and it always brightens my day knowing You've anticipated what they're about to say. You're so whip smart especially when you're into the movie. And it's a joy to behold.
One of my favourite films to rewatch every February. Great story telling. Some estimates say he's been in the loop for a good 40 years. Half a life time just to change the way he treats himself and others. Fun fact, the smashed radio that kept playing was unintentional. They stayed rolling when they realized it was still active. My favourite shot would be the large zoom in slow motion of the clock changing to 6. You just feel the weight of time getting to him. -Sage
The German writer's Johann Wolfgang von Goethe "Faust" said at the end: "Verweile doch, du bist so schön" (Beautiful moment! Do not pass away), and the devil got him. In this case here, it freed him from hell.
Most popular estimate for how long Phil Connors stayed in the time loop was almost 34 years. The ground hog isn't quite good at predicting the weather w/ 39% accuracy record though has been more accurate recently. If I were stuck in a time loop, I'd go crazy watching the same TV shows, not knowing who won the Super Bowl this year, eating the same meal every day, Pure hell. lol. Bill Murray's brother is the mayor. 4 of the Murray brothers appeared in Scrooged. You should do that one for Christmas time.
"He could be okay. (Boom!) Probably not now." 🤣 It wasn't the magic of true love that saved him. He completely changed his outlook on himself and life. It's a spiritual lesson.
I find it hilarious and I never noticed until just now, but Phil knows everything about everyone in town except Larry. The day after proving he knows everyone, he says to Larry "We never talk, do you have kids?" Such is his loathing for Larry that he still hadn't gotten to know him.
When Phil was told by the officer. "You can either turn around or go ahead and freeze to death". Phil went ahead and froze to death. This is a movie about purgatory. Alternatively when he took the snow shovel to the head while on the phone put him into a delayed coma where he dreamt the same day over and over.
Due to the rigors of making this movie, (Murray was bitten a number of times by the groundhog, for example.), it caused a major falling out between Murray and Ramis. To the point that they didn't even speak to one another for decades, until they finally reconciled shortly before Ramis passed in 2014.
😅Love this movie. Classic I couldn't tell you how many times I've seen it. Phil was definitely in the loop for atleast 30 years. He learned many new skills that would take alot of years to master. Such as Fench, piano and ice sculpture. Just think about how incredible that ice sculpture of Rita's face was. That level of skill takes time and dedication. Phil also learned alot about many people in town. The fact that Phil can easily recall personal aspects of so many people's lives means he heard these things multiple times over years. However before his amazing personal transformation he struggled. It's not suprising he went through a very dark period feeling lost. Fortunately he came out the otherside not just happier but a better person.
"I don't deserve you." The scene where he's just waiting down the hours with Rita until the clock resets again is honestly a bittersweet gutpunch in this otherwise hilarious comedy that lets you know that this film isn't just gonna be a shallow laugh, but something really special.
Bill Murray & Harold Ramis will begin never speaking to each other again( it lasted many years until right before Ramis's death) Buster,the M.C.of Groundhog festival is Bryan Doyle Murray - Bill's brother.
This has been my favourite movie for a very long time, and it's often misunderstood by those who haven't actually seen it. It's much more rom-com than anything else.
Dunno if anyone mentioned it already but just a fun fact : in the original script it was stated that Phil relived this day for 10000 years if im not mistaken, but in the end they rewrote it to something like 80 years or so
There’s obviously a lot of differing opinions, but most estimates put it between 10,000 to 13,000 days. So somewhere between 28 and 33 years. Craziness!
Using a hibernating animal to predict the coming of spring is an old-school German tradition. I've always heard they originally used badgers before switching to groundhogs in America, but at least one author swears that before the badgers, they used bears. It all springs from an older but far less interesting tradition that if it's sunny on Candlemas (a Catholic feast day that also happens to be Feb. 2), then winter will last twice as long.
Had this on VHS, and now DVD - it's a Groundhog Day ritual watching this. Good observations - and you let yourself get emotionally invested in these characters. This may well be an annual ritual for you, too. I love that last line, "Let's live here." I imagine they became leading citizens.
As a man who just this minute learned that he may be getting a continuance in a court case, I so appreciate this movie's lesson about the gift (so long as you take advantage of it) of a little extra time. Thank you!
This Movie holds a special place in my heart because the majority of it was Filmed in my hometown of Woodstock, Illinois which is 51 northwest of Chicago If you ever go there it has tons on memorabilia of the Movie and you can stay at the Bed and Breakfast
So glad you watched this in November and not February like most reactors! 😆 I really like Brian Doyle-Murray, aka Buster, for his distinct voice; he is also in Caddy Shack (Lou, manager of the caddies) and Wayne's World (Noah Vanderhoff, the Arcade Owner/Commercial Sponsor). If you want to see more of Andie MacDowell, she's in in Four Weddings and a Funeral. "Is it still raining? I hadn't noticed..."
The guy who talks to Phil at the top of the stairs is Bill Murray's brother. Ned Ryerson is played by the officer in Spaceballs who says "You captured their stunt doubles".
In the original script, Phil relived the same day for 10,000 years. Over the years people have tried saying that it was less than that. However, since 10,000 years was the original intent and it's not explicitly stated within the film, I go with 10,000 years.
There's a lot of depth to this movie, with really complex concepts. So much so that priests and their equivalents from multiple religions have commented to the filmmakers "You must be a [fill in their religion here], because you really understand our philosophy."
I recommend The Abyss (short version), Oscar, Keeping Mum (Mother’s Day),Weekend at Bernie’s, National Velvet (Elizabeth Taylor, Tangled, 9 to 5, Hysteria and Victory Victoria (Pride week)
