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@vinicius_nunes Год назад

The fact that even after she took the meds and had a clear mind, she still allowed that guy she was helping to live with her could mean she liked him, his company, and was honestly helping him in a tough situation. To imagine what he feels towards not even being able to protect the kind person that helped him out must be devastating! Thank you for the story.

@drtyguirdtfgyhj5880 Год назад

Well at some point he got a job didn't he so he could actually pay rent.

@christopherforder8966 Год назад

Well it says she helped him out before her psychosis. Before covid her psychosis symptoms were very mild and this is when she helped the man then covid hit which led her to a psychosis episode. He could of paid her rent but if she owned the house outright some people aren’t in it for the money and just want to help someone out in a difficult situation. I’m sure he did try to pay her something. What an evil woman to do such a thing all because of greed.

@WontSeeReplies Год назад

Sounds like Jemma was the one who should have been on psych meds. Debbra was right about evil forces destroying the world. Unfortunately, sadly, she was living amongst a sleeping population who have been brainwashed into referring to the evil agenda as a “pandemic.”

@Goldie789 Год назад

Since she was an older woman, I'm sure that having David there was a big help. Sometimes we need help lifting things, reaching things, carrying things up or down stairs, & maybe he did cleaning & odd jobs around the house on his days off. He sounds like he was a good friend that genuinely cared about her and he was working to get back on his feet. I feel like the younger lady knew about that older lady's money from day one. She befriended her in order to tell her that story & knew she would probably offer her money. I think that when she was thinking clearly, she figured out that she had been scammed by that woman. It's extremely sad that anyone can take a life so easily. The fact that it's over money is disgusting!!! I guess that those sick people never watch crime stories bcuz they almost always get caught & go to prison for life.

@god8348 Год назад

@@Goldie789 She definitely premeditated the murder as well, she probably waited until David left for work, she brought 2 suitcases and a knife, and obviously cleaned up well enough that David and the cops didn’t realize there was a murder that same day.

@chetleahey8944 Год назад

“But in order to understand what happened” one of my favorite sentences for MrBallen to say. Always means it’s about to get intense

@dw69376 Год назад

It generally means "here comes the context!" And the context is usually freaky!

@amylight9875 8 месяцев назад

I agree

@Mindy-lr4xh 3 месяца назад

Yup, it's about to get wild 😜

@michaeldoran4367 3 месяца назад

@amylight9875 ENORMOUS VEINY BLACK KOK FORCED INTO A TIGHT BLACK BUTT WHOLE! GIRTHY HOGG CANT FIT INTO THE TIGHT BUTT! CONTINUES TO BE FORCEFULLY SHOVED IN. FINALLY THE KOK IS INSERTED INTO THE BUTT, AND THE BUTTWHOLE WALLS COLLAPSE AND THE BUTT FARTS, EXPELLING THE VEINY BLACK KOK!

@andrewbooth5533 Месяц назад

I actually hate that lol I wish he would just tell us the details I don’t need to be strung along.. I’m trying to figure out the mystery myself and he leaves out key pieces of info until the end

@loicemuchena3865 Год назад

Gemma literally knew that getting 200k from Debra was taking complete advantage of her mental health & when thankfully the meds restored her, she turned to murder to get her way. RIP Debra.

@terminat1 Год назад

Jemma.

@terminat1 Год назад

@Av V They should.

@daltonevans3412 Год назад

@@luckyspock cared that the person took the time to comment, not cared about how the name was spelled. Different things.

@amylarson3958 Год назад

@@terminat1 agreed. Most folks say "just get over it"......p.s. we don't........do you really think we like to be sick ? Really?

@terminat1 Год назад

@@amylarson3958 I have a first cousin once removed named Jemma...I have to do things like this for people like her in mind!

@gsreed0417 Год назад

If she insists she did not kill Debra then how does she explain the suitcases taken from the house and Debra missing and later found in those same suitcases. Debra was not the crazy one!

@musthaveV8 6 месяцев назад

That's with life sentence too 😂 she wants to go to heaven badddddd

@mark.sharpe1381 3 месяца назад

It was her friend who jus says to police no comment. There's more stuff that don't make sense. She was suing a builder for nothing. Her moms jus as crazy

@BrandonLawrence Месяц назад

both were crazy, they put themselves in this situation. both Deborah & Gemma

@idid138 17 дней назад

Jemma, sounds like a sociopath.

@Lolimbob_ Год назад

I think that people who don't watch his videos think his stories would be scary but, once you start watching his content. The way that he tells the stories just makes you feel like you are actually in the story.

@rogerironhide4220 Год назад

Mr.Ballen is OUTSTANDING all around regarding his channel, content & just an all around decent man 💯. I personally love his content, the way he pulls it all together & produce outstanding content 💯. Keep on keeping on Mr.Ballen 💯

@xxo8888 Год назад

Which makes it scarier lol but the strange, dark and mysterious is addicting

@sonnyechols5140 Год назад

Yeah that’s what makes them so scary a couple of his stories are seriously scary the one about his own paranormal experience is nightmare fuel

@suma5939 Год назад

@@rogerironhide4220 he truly is the GOAT :)

@colasus1212 Год назад

A lot of his older stories are scary, about creatures in the night and demons and such.

@Chiyembekezo Год назад

Wow, I guess when you snap you snap but it’s really funny how she killed Debra and not hunt down the shoddy contractors who robbed her and put her in this position to begin with.

@ITIsFunnyDamnIT Год назад

She probably wasn't going to get her house fixed. That was all a lie to con Debra into giving her money. She probably a druggie who wanted money for drugs. I believe the whole contractor story from Jenna is bs. She sounds and looks like a druggie who wanted money for drugs. She's even smirking in her mugshot like she is proud of killing that woman. People are soooooooooooo EVIL> NEVER help anyone even if you got the money to do it. You WILL get Killed for it.

@EnkiTwo Год назад

And it wasn't like Deborah took anything from her... She just came to her senses and decided she didn't want to give 200k worth of renovations to some woman she barely knows.. Bitch is crazy for thinking someone would just give her 200k..

@detectivebrown6211 Год назад

@@ForeverPlatonicRain she's not weak. She was vulnerable. Great difference

@akidmyself4053 Год назад

It's a psychological trick. When someone is really good most of the time, the one time they mess up really makes you upset with them. When people are really nasty, but then do one good thing, you can see them in a positive light.

@Chiyembekezo Год назад

@Platonic Rainy gghklpi Iiiiii I opoila oo

@I_Love_Rainbows510 7 месяцев назад

I'm a paranoid schizophrenic. This story broke my heart. Friendship is everything. I wanted to give Gemma the benefit of the doubt while listening to the story, but then I couldn't anymore. I feel so sad for the victim. I'm glad she had the roommate who appreciated her.

@5Ci0N 7 месяцев назад

I'm watching you🙃

@admirable_kon5083 6 месяцев назад

Mental illness can be tough sometimes... Take good care of yourself and have happy moments everyday! Hope you're doing ok! All the best! 🙂

@I_Love_Rainbows510 6 месяцев назад

@@admirable_kon5083 Thanks so much for your kind words!!

@stayglued2108 4 месяца назад

I feel like if we're all honest we are all dealing with some deep rooted pain or hardship or mental illness. Some a little, or a lot more then others. I hope you know that you you're stronger then you think. .... and I love rainbows too

@I_Love_Rainbows510 4 месяца назад

@@stayglued2108 Thanks!! That's so sweet!

@Lxl1ta Год назад

I love how in the middle of a true crime video he manages to make me laugh with a random sponsor and a funny story

@TheChaddestChad 10 месяцев назад

Seriously, normally I skip “sponsored” sections but fml does he manage to make it fun.

@user-iu9cx9hp3f 10 месяцев назад

I have to make sure I'm wearing my tena lady pmsl

@erindiazmclaughlin 10 месяцев назад

I believe he makes those light hearted funny comments whilst talking about the sponsors because it keeps us entertained. But also because it makes us smile, as well as a minute to take a breath. When so many of these stories are sad and sometimes difficult to hear. It's like a little break in order to prepare us for whatever it is he is about to tell us.

@Sqwidiot 8 месяцев назад

ol' lungy

@I_Love_Rainbows510 7 месяцев назад

Oh my gosh, his froggie speaks British!! :o

@MiniFlightlessBird Год назад

okay real talk, i love the way you talk about mental illness. you don't just say "oh yeah, it's schizophrenia", you first introduce us to Deborah and who she is and how kind she is and everything, and then you explain that she was struggling with covid just like all of us were, and then you explain what she was diagnosed with, and what it's like, and what her symptoms were like. it's a very real, very human, way to talk about paranoid schizophrenia. every time you talk about different mental illnesses on this channel, i feel like i'm being reminded of the humanity we all share. hope that makes sense, but yeah. it's very different from a lot of other true crime channels, and i really appreciate it. thanks for doing such a careful job addressing these topics, Mr. Ballen. :)

@isabellastens4630 Год назад

I agree people with mental illnesses are people to and at times they are suffering more than others know

@ryanparker4996 Год назад

@@isabellastens4630 catastrophising is not mentally healthy, shut up

@IMAMONGUS Год назад

This is lovely, thank you for posting.

@vivalarazausarmyvet4453 Год назад

What's the connection with so many people with mental disorders being overly religious?

@Dog-ru1rz Год назад

@@vivalarazausarmyvet4453 I don't know if you are purposefully implying that you think people with mental disorders are stupid or weird, but this is the vibe that your comment gives. To answer your question, it is the desperation and fear. The two emotions that you commonly see in terminally/chronically ill people. Because it is harmless and uplifting to believe in a divine figure that is able to miraculously heal them or give them an eternal happiness. But it makes more sense with mentally ill people because others tend to stay away from them. They are less likely to be shown love and understanding, so they usually have no one to love back. This is why they result in giving all their love and devotion to something they can't communicate and hope that it understands them and loves them back. They are isolated, alienated, and often unable to find the right people to bond with. It's not like they believe in scientifically incorrect things and conspiracies because they are sick or crazy. Sometimes they have no choice. Like the poor lady in this story who went as far as allowing strangers to live rent free with her and accepting to give hundreds of dollars to a murderous "friend" who is almost half her age, just to not be alone.

@silentkitty318 Год назад

This is so sad. Kind-hearted people are often the ones who are treated the worst.

@ITIsFunnyDamnIT Год назад

I knew the minute he mentioned money. Someone was gonna kill her for it. Happen every time. You just can't help people for they will NOT be grateful and only plan to kill you to take it from you. every time

@tigertalk2106 Год назад

I 👍 agree! Now you have to be careful who you help!! It's a violent world!

@thresagraham8181 Год назад

Hear you ✌️

@pvsweetypie Год назад

Such revelations

@Miss-Kitty-Cat Год назад

My neighbour has schizophrenia too, and she also was really negatively affected by the first couple of years of the pandemic. She's improved in the last few months, which is great, but she was so upset and distressed for all that time, it was really sad to see. After watching this video I'm even more relieved we (all her friends and neighbours) managed to keep her safe.

@EMan-cu5zo 9 месяцев назад

The news really scared the crap out of most people by making the virus much more dangerous than it really was.

@jeremiahhoyle7085 Год назад

This is a perfect example of money makes people do absolutely insane things. Such a shame this happened to Deborah

@raywright2401 Год назад

How the hell the police did not factor in a woman with two suitcases emerging from house on same day for over a month is beyond me.

@brianew Год назад

They're not very bright, are they?

@heavenreignsupreme Год назад

UK Police are one of the most dumbest cops in the world.

@mirandapanda5439 Год назад

Well they are British so...

@justtryme2020 Год назад

I was wondering the same thing.

@butchershoppequartet8690 Год назад

Now you mention it...

@FroggyBarnett Год назад

Remember when Mr Ballen had 150,000 followers and uploaded 3 times a week? How things change over time! Couldn’t happen to a better story teller. ❤️

@solanowalter92 Год назад

Dood!!! There’s was one week where he uploaded like five times! It was heaven. Not sustainable obviously but, I relished when I saw them!

@peterguernsey6831 Год назад

3 4 or even 5 times a week there for a while, it was great! Don't get me wrong though, I'm amazingly happy for Mr Allen, as I'm sure you are too! He defiantly deserves the fame, and as a nonprofessional storyteller, (as most anyone who either has children or works with them tend to be) I have to tip my hat to a true master of the craft, and am wonderfully happy he gets to make a good living (honestly a spectacular living I bet, which is fantastic!) doing it!

@chada.bishop307 8 месяцев назад

So now, Gemma's house has a hole in the roof, no heat, AND a busted front door.

@seanknox5785 Год назад

I just realized I have watched 32 MrBallen videos in 4 days I only “liked” one…. I’ll go back and like them all for you. You are great at what you do and that makes me happy

@staceykucan3686 7 дней назад

It’s also a good way to keep track of which ones you’ve watched.

@TheJessicahammerly Год назад

What the hell.. how she can still deny it to this day is mind boggling

@BalboaBaggins Год назад

Female behaviour.It's very common.

@erismana2105 Год назад

@@BalboaBaggins 🙄

@alicepotter8165 Год назад

She was convicted.

@gemfyre855 Год назад

Probably under advice from her lawyer.

@zeearts9484 Год назад

@@gemfyre855 Don't they have more chances of being let out in the future if they do confess to the crime though?

@nekokim2741 Год назад

This one really hurt me because my grandmother was just like Deborah always wanting to help people but also struggling with schizophrenia. She was a great woman and it’s just awful what people will do to other human beings for their own selfish needs. Rip Deborah ❤️

@WontSeeReplies Год назад

Sounds like Jemma was the one who should have been on psych meds. Deborah was right about evil forces destroying the world.

@lucidmind9676 14 дней назад

Man I love watching/listening to your videos to get me thru my 12 hour night shift job, your storytelling ability are amazing and even when it comes to stories I’ve already heard on other channels or seen movie’s about like the Travis Walton case, I still watch your telling from beginning to end because of the way you build suspense and unlike other story channels, you know how to build tension rather than making it feel like the story is dragging

@natc2191 Год назад

All I can say is, wow... I'm a caretaker for my grandmother, sis, and mom. During 2020, the start of the pandemic, I was also taking care of granddad. It was tough. I feel bad for David. He said a little prayer before he left... I can only imagine the confusion and anger he felt when this happened.

@thomascarey6344 Год назад

that poor woman, spent years trying to help others just to be killed by someone she thought was her friend. This is the first Mr Ballen video that made me feel genuinely so upset for someone i didnt even know

@sajronimakaroni8483 Год назад

She should promise to pay for the repair and than saung no. She didnt deserve to die but IT was a shity move

@melissabarham4837 Год назад

Same here. Here is a beautiful soul helping others and is murdered for it. And a person she met at church at that! God rest her soul. Lord have mercy!

@karmatickenny Год назад

Been a listener since Mr. B uploaded 4-5 times a week. Me and that like button have been through a lot. Keep up the groovy job Ballen! Thank you!!!

@kittyswirlc3803 Год назад

Lol 😂 I feel you on the like button one. 😅😅😂dang I luv his stories!

@SuperCrazyPsycho731 Год назад

Yeah hes making bankroll now ain't he? Lol

@annettedailey6743 Год назад

Love/ hate relationship with the like button😉

@kittyswirlc3803 Год назад

@@annettedailey6743 fr! Haha 😆

@DiligentX Год назад

@@kittyswirlc3803 AHHAHAH THATS SO FUNNY HAAHHAH OMG AHAHAHHA

@s.s15 11 месяцев назад

Im having a overwhelmingly sad and difficult phase in my life, thank you for these stories, these are the reason i can get my ass out of bed and to the bus to get to work at the moment, i hate my work but cant wait to listen to you while working. I bet its slowing me down but im getting shit done lol.

@vinnykurri17 9 месяцев назад

I hear ya. Sadly, I feel the same lately.

@HaggisMuncher-69-420 9 месяцев назад

Then get a new job. You only live for 70-80 years - why would you spend those limited years doing something that depresses you that much?

@shanipie3 9 месяцев назад

Hope things get better for you soon! If the stories help you through your day and you're getting your stuff done then there's nothing wrong with that! :)

@hana.the.writer5074 9 месяцев назад

@@HaggisMuncher-69-420 Jobs are hard to find. Looking for one while working would be best.

@mariapennylane Год назад

Oh my! The Mr. Ballen ‘commercials’ absolutely kill me… “Ol Lungy” …I’m absolutely living for this!! 😂😂😂

@priyangshuroy8865 Год назад

I am from India and I was mocked upon by my friends because I was a little into strange and dark stories like true crime and paranormal stuff unlike them and for years I searched for someone on the internet who could give some good quality content on these topics and finally finally!! In 2020 I found MrBallen I have been your og viewer and have watched MrBallen grow from a small RU-vid channel to now a channel with over 7 million subscribers. Hats off to you MrBallen; you are the best storyteller on the internet and I will never ever stop watching you no matter how much I age.

@thomasgriffin2326 Год назад

No one cares.

@kenboulder212 Год назад

@@thomasgriffin2326 Yeah! No one cares!

@dteed6282 Год назад

This is a tragic story. In her attempt to be kind, she offered help to the wrong person who murdered her in cold blood. I hope that psycho never gets out.

@x.kenna.benna.x 5 месяцев назад

Your sponsor stories are amazing. They help ease my anxiety a bit. You're the only person whose sponsorship ads I don't skip

@Nekro117 6 месяцев назад

The sponsor promotions are just as good as the stories, such a talented guy

@carawheelersburg4390 6 месяцев назад

Ikr

@ladyT_VR46 Год назад

Mr Ballen is the perfect narrator for these grisly true crimes, giving every character a fair account, leading up to a true who dunnit murder mystery for those watching. He then unravels the plot giving us subscribers a totally unexpected twist. Mr Ballen deserves a Netflix series, I for one would be hooked. 🙌👏👏

@UndeadPigeonFilms Год назад

His tone of voice helps make these so listenable. So many horror story channels have gloomy or dry narration. Mr. Ballen just sounds like hes telling you something interesting in a conversational way.

@J3diMindTrix Год назад

Netflix follow a pattern of cancelling shows for no apparent reason even ones that are popular with fans and critics alike and seem to be generally doing well so why risk it for Mr B Like mid-season around series 3 or 4 leaving fans of that show not only confused but let down to a degree also - it's happened to so many shows I won't list them all but there was one recently that is notable as they changed the direction of the show so extremely that actor of the main character left causing a petition to be signed requesting Netflix to take him back on, I don't know who makes these types of decisions there but I would like to know, I'm not sure it's a person at this stage as there's never any explanation, maybe it's a bot or something, the choices they make about shows are often so nonsensical and unreasonable it defies logic

@slowpokingaround2941 Год назад

your review belongs in a professional magazine

@cheriewasserman6422 Год назад

He has the best voice to listen to his stories, just love him.

@stafrogenmagdy9434 Год назад

As amazing as he is telling the story.. the credit goes to his mother and the way she writes all these stories

@heatherdaniels3093 Год назад

Poor Deborah! She was such a kind soul to have this happen to her. How awful. At least justice was served.

@annalucy89 Год назад

In the U.K justice is very rarely served. People get sentences, whatever they are, but they rarely do the whole bid. I hope she'll at least stay in prison for those 34 years but I highly doubt it.

@JohnnySmokess Год назад

Justice was not served she’s dead and her killer finally gets a new roof

@pandujyadav5747 9 месяцев назад

IMO Deborah shouldn't have made any fake promises in the first place, she put Jemma in a terrible position right before renovation. Giving hope, dreams and smiles and snatching all that away later, who is the bigger evil?

@godsrevolver9737 8 месяцев назад

Poor Deborah? She was a massive bitch to that woman.

@AleksandarIvanov69 8 месяцев назад

She was crazy and the global rona restrictions made her completely insane? Any accountability for the evil tyrants? No, not even one bit...

@cristinhopkins2748 Год назад

You are seriously one of my favorite people and story tellers! Thank you for sharing!

@sfynxhead 7 месяцев назад

My father who was a paranoid schizophrenic died by suicide on a beautiful summers day in 2019. I'm eternally grateful he never had to go through those pandemic years.

@Thi-Nguyen Год назад

Deborah just had a lovely smile and looked like the generous soul she was. How sad for her.😢

@Melissamms Год назад

My great aunt was bipolar and schizophrenic. She could be very mean, but weirdly we always got along. I was one of few people she would listen to or take constructive criticism from. During her last few years, she had caregivers who would take advantage of her delusional state. They would stay there instead of getting their own apartments, drink on the job, take money from her, use her car, buy gifts for their kids. Luckily, all these people would be fired in one of her fits of rage but it still sickened me to know that there were so many people out there who would take advantage of a very impoverished and sick elderly woman for their own gain.

@UnityRevolution Год назад

I think your storytelling is so awesome , descriptive and realistic - I think for all people but especially like if I was blind or something I would really benefit from your media ! That’s a compliment! Also love your backgrounds and stuff too

@sueellencenac8994 Год назад

This shows how undeserving the act of kindness was. Getting snap back into reality and realising how you was probably manipulated into a situation.

@jokerking5858 Год назад

Yes in such mental state she vulnerable to any kind of influences she in

@kathymcmc Год назад

Congratulations on exceeding 7 million subs. That's amazing!!!

@ivorellarackley4401 Год назад

My screen is cracked and it looks like "7 million sucks" hahaha 😂😭

@enzop2835 Год назад

@@ivorellarackley4401 No it didn't. You just need Jesus.

@mme_juggernaut Год назад

I hope wherever he is, David is doing okay. He really did care so much.

@arilorentz6486 Год назад

You would think the stories would make you anxious but in reality it’s the sponsorship plug segment that’ll have your heart racing

@SWolfmoon Год назад

Oh my god, the gall of this woman, claiming she didn't do it. This one actually shocked me, once we got to what happened to Deborah. What a horrible way to go, being attacked by someone you considered close enough to be a sister. Bet the cops felt kinda bad after not seeing Deb leave her house, then finding out that they had seen it all along.

@Luna-ii4mx Год назад

Wtf I did not expect that outcome. What a horrible person Gemma is… I feel sorry for the guy in the beginning who were worried for Deborah 😭 He was so nice to her

@elizabethgiliberto8932 Год назад

I don't know why, but the second Gemma's picture was shown, my first thought was, I bet she killed Deborah.

@tngirl341 Год назад

It's spelled Jemma are yall blind?

@thepeachblossom6615 Год назад

@@tngirl341 blame the subtitle 😂. It's spelled Gemma instead Jemma

@jeffcampbell2710 Год назад

Debrah went from a wonderful Christian lady, to suddenly non Christian, disabled person? Just as that "Protection" is designed to do. Her mistake was searching the Tube of lies. When they blocked truth, everyone should've seen. Tube did as designed, create fear. Debrah told Jemna she would pay for repairs. She was wrong to back out and leave Jemma with a destroyed house. Legally, Jemma had a lawsuit. Jemna did it wrong.

@angledbracketsarentallowed4790 Год назад

@@jeffcampbell2710 Unfortunately a lot of the strong connection to religion would have come from her illness to begin with. There's a link between schizophrenia and religion, and quite frankly handing out a quarter million dollars to someone you just met is very far from rational. Given her diagnosis it's reasonable to assume she could have made that 'wonderful Christian' gesture without her finances being able to bare it. Jemma didn't have a lawsuit, Jemma didn't have anything. She was handed her house and it sounds like she was unwilling to take care of it. Putting money aside to pay for maintenance is a really small ask if you literally have no mortgage on your dwelling, you could put in far less than a regular person would be expected to pay on their rent and you'd be completely fine. Even a half decent insurance policy would be enough for the kinds of issues the property was facing. She decided to coast off her generational success, until it fell apart, then she needed to leech from somewhere else. Her sense of entitlement was off the charts, likely due to how much was handed to her for free, coupled with church teachings it turned out to be quite a lethal combo for Deborah. Jemma is nothing but a stupid, lazy, entitled, delusional and a really sickening little grub. RIP Deborah

@meachie47jw Год назад

JUST NEEDTO TELL YOU I LOVE THE WAY YOU TELL A STORY I BE STUCK ON YOUR STORIES FOR HOURS LITERLY

@fiveoclockdock 20 дней назад

This is the only dude on youtube that makes me rewind parts of an AD to rewatch it

@jessiekorff9148 Год назад

Good explanation on paranoid schizophrenia. My brother was diagnosed in his early twenties. He lives a totally normal life, but during the pandemic he stressed himself so bad he had a psychotic break for about a month.

@PANDAFACEEYES Год назад

I'm so glad he is managing well apart from that blip. All the best!

@norringtonlover Год назад

Anyone else get a sense of satisfaction hearing that the police took a battering ram to the door of Jemma’s precious house? I’m glad that she not only got caught for her heinous actions but that felt like a little extra karmic justice.

@lu.ciel8770 Год назад

Agreed 👍

@pleaseshutup7053 Год назад

They destroyed her house even more 😂

@shanebreezy4453 Год назад

Not at all.. its actually the other way around, i feel bad for her. You don't promise someone $200,000 and then take it away. Imagine winning that much in the lottery and thinking you can fix the house for your elderly mother, then finding out it was fake and you're not getting any money.

@Sophiedabombbaby Год назад

@shanebreezy4453 sucks to be poor. Gives no right to murder, or think you're entitled to someone else's money regardless

@PAULO_MUSIC Год назад

@@shanebreezy4453 I don't think you understand, I have Schizophrenia and I sympathise heavily with Deborah. Whenever I am having a psychotic episode which can last months on end due to the physical symptoms of the medications affecting my ability to function at all where I have to stop taking the medications for a period of time. When I am having a psychotic episode, I don't have the ability to tell what is reality so I am vulnerable to be manipulated easily which has happened unfortunately multiple times with gaslighting being a major factor in those who have manipulated me. Sometimes you have to take a step back and assess, was Deborah in the right state of mind to make a decision to promise someone $200,000. Because during a psychotic episode for me before I was medicated at all, I raked over $15,000 in debt because my paranoia made me believe that those products I bought with loans was life or death. Now I have $15,000 debt I am still currently paying back which I ended up in a 6 month long depression after being medicated because of the guilt I felt for taking loans and buying products that I now realise I never needed in the first place. I also have Bipolar 2 but discussing Mania and Depressive episodes is another conversation for another day.

@uncouthj4599 Год назад

Nice save! You so nearly lost it in that ad... Bravo! That really was superbly done! 🙌

@SKITZNIX Год назад

I think you may be the best RU-vidr at making your ads funny as hell. Love the insane story you always build for them. Props man. 🤣 Great channel 👍

@nick-a-roo Год назад

This is the first time I am watching you tell a story and feel like you left out a really important detail. From other videos I watched about this case, Jemma continued asking for money for renovations while not actually having any of them done. She and her mother just tried to get more more and money, while having nothing to show for where it was going.

@AlexBobalexRavenclaw Год назад

Is that so? Very interesting layer to the story!

@ohsweetmystery Год назад

Predators are great at sniffing out and using victims.

@cassinipanini Год назад

can you rec channels who have also covered it? that does sound like a crucial thing to leave out as it changes the entire way the story is framed

@WontSeeReplies Год назад

@andrewbourdeau3563 Год назад

It took them that long to track down the woman leaving her house the day she disappeared with a giant suitcase? Crazy

@codyjones2540 Год назад

@georgeowen6095dude really… go troll the financial youtubers

@sara_c907 Год назад

@@codyjones2540 no worries, reported them.

@MrJdsenior Год назад

@@sara_c907 I'll bet I've been hit up 10X in the last month by those scammer idiots. It gets really tiresome. I think YT could fix it easily, but they apparently don't care.

@Zote85 Год назад

They had camera footage in that street but not directly looking at that house.

@pippa3150 Год назад

Please report scammers. ^^^^^

@ladeekatt Год назад

Ahhh, my favorite storyteller! You make stories rich, and they breathe with life, and unfortunately, sometimes death. Carry on my friend! 🥰

@Me-my8us Год назад

The way you talked about your sponsor with Ol' Lungy was fantastic! I had a good laugh 😃 I bet it's hard for you to keep a straight face! Love hearing your stories!

@Goldie789 Год назад

That poor woman was so kind & David sounds like a really caring, respectful, & genuinely good guy. He really appreciated her help. That younger woman was using her from day one & the older lady figured it out. I wish that David had come home on a lunch break and caught that woman there before she could hurt his friend. I wonder what happened to David.

@courtneyloch4287 Год назад

I didn't expect what Gemma did. That's absolutely horrific. RIP Deborah

@guccixlion6233 Год назад

Spoilers dawg although I saw that coming

@courtneyloch4287 Год назад

@@guccixlion6233 idk why I was so surprised:( I don't want to spoil the story for anyone.. should I delete my comment?

@nobody7817 Год назад

@@courtneyloch4287 I'd say no... people don't want spoilers...they shouldn't go to the comments section first...and if they get a spoiler... they should shrug it off as their own fault for opening the back of the book and reading the last page first.

@fullmetalpleb Год назад

People need to remember we came from chimps, give a chimp a cake and not the others they'll tear you apart. Promise a human a life changing gift, then take it away they'll almost always go primal, just doesn't happen much. Unfortunately this ladies mental illness put her in such a position...

@nobody7817 Год назад

@@fullmetalpleb You may be an ape... I came from a creator who lovingly created a mathematically sound universe with love, passion and reason...not some random explosion (Which current Scientists have now proclaimed is a non working theory and admit that they have NOTHING to fall back on...)

@zanussidish5685 10 месяцев назад

For anyone interested in the locations which are not mentioned: Deborah lived in Wembley, Mitchell in Willesden and the seaside resort is Salcombe in Devon.

@kimberlyhemminger3822 Год назад

I bet he tells his kids some really good bedtime stories. I remember my dad being one of the best story tellers.

@gabe608 Год назад

So sad when good people go out of their way to help, and come across someone who wants more than help.😢 thanks for all your story telling and the way to do so.

@blackcurrantpop Год назад

Wow, killing her and forging her will. What an evil person. May Deborah RIP.

@pokadotscutesiee Год назад

In love with Mr. Ballen’s way of story telling. Most of the time I’m just more excited to see how he chooses to unfold the story than the content itself… keep it up Mr. Ballen!

@dazhigh9208 Месяц назад

brill story Mr Ballen. im from the uk and ican remeber this but untili saw this i forgot. Again thank you for great story

@patriciawagaa6735 Год назад

Hes very good at story telling he keeps you interested.

@campbell3711 Год назад

I bet you, Mrs. Ballen is suspicious of how good his storytelling is😂👍🏻

@Nae_aka_toras_wifey Год назад

MrBallen is one of the best storytellers I've ever heard. His tone and diction and the way he uses so much detail always makes the stories he tells so immersive. Luv u John ❤️

@dickdastardly4236 Год назад

Unfortunately a lot of details are made up.

@someoneout-there2165 Год назад

Yeah listening to him tell stories is better than most movies are.

@francesbacon7825 Год назад

I so agree. I am a woman and there are so many women with sites like this, excellent stories but their voices are awful, awful. High, pitchy and drop sentences at the end or loud screeching voices. I have told many that they need a voice coach but we are in an era that everyone is perfect.

@timw.5030 Год назад

he has never, ever said UHH or UMM

@tylersays- Год назад

@@dickdastardly4236 for real ... like when "this is the last time she was seen" but he fills in a bunch of drastic details that nobody ever witnessed. These girls go frickin googoo over him and it's cringy af 😆

@stacynewman1632 10 месяцев назад

Wow. Your ability to draw a person in is amazing. I enjoy listening to everything you report. Thank you.. It’s so good. You make it feel like the people listening we w power if it. I’m impressed.

@jamiehoggan9705 Год назад

Brilliant story telling as always 💯💯❤

@laurenintegra7333 Год назад

You know your content is absolutely killing it when the folks who normally sigh at paid ads don't skip, just to hear a Seagull Lung update

@thebigman5047 Год назад

Milk Me

@zerrierslizer1 Год назад

@@thebigman5047 ok wtf.

@thebigman5047 Год назад

@@zerrierslizer1 yes

@jessmcnulty3043 Год назад

And his laugh as he tries to utter the words, “seagull lung” 😂😂😂

@thebigman5047 Год назад

@@jessmcnulty3043 or when he screams milk for the heavens to hear than his wife comes in and slaps him.

@alirosebest831 Год назад

poor Deborah was being so generous, it’s like the giving tree

@ddyang9172 Год назад

Well not really she was kinda not thinking straight and then got meds that focused her mind and that stopped all that feel bad giving stuff

@kouayep0 Год назад

She was probably in a manic phase when she was generous and her meds leveled her out and she came to her senses.

@secrets.295 Год назад

Can't really pity her. You can't back out of a deal after promising to someone to finance their big project and just left her abandoned like that with possibility of bankruptcies. Maybe she wasn't thinking clearly before and after she took medication she changed her mind. But that is not how things worked. You can't simply just back out after you promise.

@gvirusqueen3559 Год назад

@@secrets.295 Hope someone doesn’t decapitate you or someone you love because you/they backed out of a promise made when not of sound mind.

@lullabysorrow5746 Год назад

I see what you’re trying to say and agree. Jemma had already been scammed once by her first contractor and lost the money to fix her house. She met Debrah at church and they hit it off well. And probably for the first time since the contracted scam, Jemma felt relief that god had led her to this woman and “Christian good moment”. And they had even texted a lot everyday getting to know another as friends. Then all of a sudden “ all that sympathy and help” was only caused because debrah was not mentally well? So being a jerk was her “ sane self”. The way she just crushed this woman’s hopes was just sadistic. She insulted and berated her leading up to the renovation dates. Then revealed she ain’t helping her at all and to just sell her house and start from scratch and figure it out all on her own and don’t call her til shes “ at her best”. And then ghosted her. So now she just got told by her newfound close friend all this after still living in a house that’s freezing with a hole in the roof. So not only did she lose the chance of fixing her house she lost a friend through a really tough time for her. So she tried desperately to save her home that meant a lot to her and was fully paid off ( which is a accomplishment on its own). She wrote this entire speech, went to her house finally had the chance to clear some things up about what happened. And was rejected before she even finished. Mind you Deborah probably never explained why she just became so hateful to her or gave a decent apology. Nor even offered a little bit of relief or even to help her sell her home or some type of plan B. she just shut her down and told her no. And you know what, you can only treat a desperate person like they are meaningless for so long before they snap. And Jemma had snapped. So uh yeah God sure did answer he sat back and watched Debrah’s choices and how she decided to handle things back fire on her.

@KaitlinMillerOct2nd22 9 месяцев назад

Seriously, I love watching your ads. 😂❤ you make me laugh and look forward to listening to you.

@Mellokitty7711 Месяц назад

MrBallen is the only guy I will sit through an ad for because it’s so funny

@jmsblk1 Год назад

The scariest thing in this case is the fact Gemma cut her head off, as this is not a easy thing to do and makes me think Gemma was hiding a very dark secret and was completely insane but on the surface appeared like a normal 35 year old woman, this shows we all could be sitting next to or walking by a person who is capable not just of murder but capable of cutting someones head off FFS.

@angledbracketsarentallowed4790 Год назад

Sounds like she went to participate in religious ceremonies regularly (usually weekly). She couldn't possibly have been firing on all cylinders. I don't think we should ban religion outright, but I think at this point the more involved really should be monitored closely because heavy involvement in religion has proven to be a massive red flag in the modern age.

@kidkidkid792 Год назад

We didn't hear much about her, so I can't say for sure, but I am guessing that something snapped in Gemma because she was relieved of her financial struggles, found a close friend and than all of it was taken away from her. It takes very little for 'normal person' to finally break.

@MM-jf1me Год назад

@@angledbracketsarentallowed4790 I'm atheist and support stronger separation between our government and religious institutions, but I don't think someone being religious should be a red flag of any sort. You say that heavy involvement in religion has "proven to be a massive red flag" -- what do you mean, exactly?

@angledbracketsarentallowed4790 Год назад

@@MM-jf1me Within my life time all 'large' wars excluding the recent one between Russia and Ukraine have been instigated by religious fanatics. That extremism bleeds out into tangentially related communities in the form of mass killings in places of worship. There are smaller scale examples that are quite easy to find where individual killings take place and the religious element takes the forefront. I'd argue that even in this video here, religion caused more harm than good - and a human death might have been avoided without it. To me homicide is the worst act humans can commit, anything to reduce the amount of homicide in the world I am all for. Religion to me is an easy target to this end, because it increases the homicide rates globally. I don't think the superfluous 'benefits' of religion like charity and 'sense of community' etc outweigh this tragedy. Especially when you consider the fact that there is no God or super natural 'deity' and these 'benefits' can and are also provided from secular sources... It's just not worth it, and people who subscribe to those ideologies should be treated differently.

@MM-jf1me Год назад

@@angledbracketsarentallowed4790 I understand your perspective now. Thank you for explaining your thinking.

@fidgetyfl0wer174 Год назад

I would love to see a compliation video of strange things caught on CCTV, there's got to be so much out there

@Sniperboy5551 Год назад

There was a Netflix series with a bunch of footage from London’s CCTV cameras. Most of it was just run of the mill crime, but there were some pretty funny things as well. It’s a great show to watch if you want to see just how much of a surveillance state the UK (along with much of the West) is becoming.

@fidgetyfl0wer174 Год назад

@@Sniperboy5551 thanks I'll check it out. There's an iceberg series by @hannahthehorrible here on yt about it that first peaked my interest in it.

@deanothemanc5281 Год назад

I worked in a control room for a local council for over a decade, some of the things I've seen were quite frankly bizarre, funny and sometimes heartbreaking tbh.

@jessicahannah2522 Год назад

There are literally hundreds of YT videos of that exact thing.

@fidgetyfl0wer174 Год назад

@@jessicahannah2522 cool I would like to see some from MrBallen not just general that's actually why I commented here

@glowmonster5198 Год назад

I really enjoy listening to your videos while I'm at work . 💗

@Chingloves 8 месяцев назад

MrBallen is the only person who can make an advert fun to watch. Good 'ol lung!

@ssmouse77 11 месяцев назад

You are a wonderful story teller. This story goes to show what I've always said, "in the end all you have is yourself."

@darmanburkhardt3969 Год назад

Crazy to think this man stood in the middle of a street at night while telling us this story what a legend

@69Satan69 Год назад

Underrated comment

@shaquilleoatmeal8543 Год назад

I hate you so much for this! 😭😭 I feel so guilty laughing after hearing the story 😭🤌

@wendynothaft9277 Год назад

🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😜🤪😁🙃

@humanerror6082 Год назад

it's called a "green screen" dumboo!!!!!!!!11

@shalomthembydonga1748 11 месяцев назад

🤣🤣🤣🤣You did not

@jadebeasley4847 Год назад

this is the only youtube channel that i don’t skip the ads in them bc he makes them funny 😂

@chrishuber4853 Год назад

Especially when he starts cracking up

@nikolaicarpathia8171 Год назад

Gross

@samanthadawn3085 Год назад

Same! I love hearing about Ollllllllleee Luuungy haha

@highlanderholyfield855 Год назад

that shit was horrible and out of nowhere, i was like wtf is this guy talkin bout

@15Beaches Год назад

Right??

@user-iv1nw3lw9f 10 месяцев назад

You are one of the best story tellers I've ever heard.

@huntergray3985 Год назад

Mr Ballen, this is the first time that I have enjoyed (and not skipped forward) an in video advertisement. Well done!

@Mrs.LadeyBug Год назад

I’m so thankful for Ol’ Lungy!!! He’s ensured our future of great storytelling for years to come by saving your life! Phew! 🐸

@marysmotherjones4601 Год назад

Gud old lungy

@perchrichri8608 Год назад

Exactly

@ahmadtablieh8984 Год назад

Yh i didnt like the way how he was promoting it with the advertisement just not cool not nice and full of shit

@subliminal_fire5025 Год назад

It was the speaking German after getting slapped for me lol

@Mrs.LadeyBug Год назад

@@subliminal_fire5025 😂

@Fuzzyslippersss Год назад

I saw this exact story on the coffee house crime RU-vid channel, but Mr. Ballen has a way of having the viewers connect with the people as if we knew them - a good trait in epic storytelling. Please do more international stories, John.

@peterguernsey6831 Год назад

Adrian from the coffee house has a wonderful way of making a visit to wherever the crime takes place sound like a fantastic idea. Mr Allen is the better story-teller, I gotta agree, but Adrian, the gentleman who does coffeehouse crime has a great style as well. The focus is certainly aimed at different aspects and features of any particular crime, and I gotta say that I enjoy and appreciate both channels a lot.

@TheCradM Год назад

I would argue that he does plenty of international stories. He certainly doesn’t shy away from them.

@Renkencen Год назад

Same but Mrballen did added new info that Adrian didn't. Examples like I didn't knew she had a roommate and her schizophrenia had her writing letters to imaginary video people than Adrian mention she made tea for the Prime Minisiter and the Mayor of London! MrBallen did however fall short on not concluding what happened to the roomate and her house? I assumne since she's dead, the house got repossess and he had to move out.

@goliath_red1102 Год назад

I thought I recognised this story from somewhere

@SpydersByte Год назад

ah so thats where I had seen it before, I didnt realize until the arrest footage that it was a case I had already seen, MrBallen really does tell stories differently :D

@TheChaddestChad 10 месяцев назад

Ngl I’m an old vet and I’ve been really down in the dumps. After a recent hardship I’ve found myself depressed and isolating myself. I can’t share with those close to me so I suffer in silence but I tell you what… this channel has kept my mind off of things and the silly tidbits have been the only thing to make me smile in a month. I appreciate that so much. Thanks Mr. Ballen. Your content is always interesting and for me… genuinely helps.

@lipgloss675411 6 месяцев назад

I hope all is well 🙏

@faducci 3 месяца назад

First time listening and you are a great story teller!! Very detailed ❤

@Lnps123 Год назад

People like Deborah makes the world a happy place .

@Lnps123 Год назад

If I'm really selected, gave it to the needy near you. Thank you. May God bless.

@scarletivy2271 Год назад

@Lalnunpuia. Ralte. These are scammers trying to get money out of you. Unfortunately, they've done this under many youtubers names. All we can really do is report comments like these. Best wishes.

@aljabirxiju9475 Год назад

not really.

@Lnps123 Год назад

@@aljabirxiju9475 There are & i believe you were one of them.

@Lnps123 Год назад

@@aljabirxiju9475 Yes, really.

@spalding1495 Год назад

MrBallen! I subbed when you were under 100K subs right when Covid hit. Now I saw a billboard for your podcast on Amazon in Austin! Your growth is insane and well deserved. Thank you for doing what you do

@AmbitiousDucks Год назад

You're probably the only RU-vidr that I would gladly watch just a compilation of ad reads from

@TrueKrimeKati420 Год назад

Literally the best RU-vid channel out there. I’m obsessed!! 😅

@nikkij4873 Год назад

What a plot twist: the person with paranoid schizophrenia was NOT the crazy person in this story.

@jokerking5858 Год назад

most of the time they are the one that get advantaged of situation but unfortunely resulting her death, or else this just common things older PPL tends to deal with

@bearclaus2676 Год назад

Your prejudice is showing.

@nikkij4873 Год назад

@@bearclaus2676 that’s the point, isn’t it? This story really challenged our prejudiced assumptions.

@craigcassidy6078 Год назад

It's always the case. 5hen you have shitheads who go to court and say its because I had moment of insanity and people buy it.

@epicdogs2 Год назад

Yeah I was gonna say what everyone else is. Statistically schizophrenic people are way more likely to be the victim of a violent crime than the perpetrator. Like it's not even close

@PistolPeteHD Год назад

Absolutely wild story. Crazy how desperate people can get

@ShaneMcGrath. Год назад

Going to get much worse unfortunately.

@ethelrhine56 Год назад

That's not desperation. That's psychopathy 😳

@improvised1410 Год назад

@@ethelrhine56 I think it's a combination of the two.

@ethelrhine56 Год назад

@@improvised1410 I disagree. A person who owns a home and can sell it, regardless of the renovations needed, without psychopathology will just sell their house. A criminal psychopath will kill, yes.

@clawsongatch Год назад

I don't think it's a story of desperation. I think it's a story of a selfish person that doesn't manage their life well who expects someone to take care of them. Obviously this woman owed her nothing . She was being Kind. So you kill her and you make a fake will that makes you the beneficiary. This wasn't an act of desperation, this was an act of Narcissistic evil.

@wadewilson-xi1zs Месяц назад

It’s so mind boggling to me that seemingly normal people do these horrific acts. Makes me suspicious of everyone.

@roel2835 11 месяцев назад

Normally i fast forward thru commercials, but u made yours pretty entertaining! I actually LOL'ed! the thought of a huge frog slapping you around lol

@adamfox7071 Год назад

Mr Ballen has the only commercials that I actually enjoy listening to keep them coming this way!

@missbee3618 Год назад

How about Mr ballen, I like his 😁😜

@adamfox7071 Год назад

@@missbee3618 oh snap! That was a typo. Idk how but now I'll embarrassingly correct it. Shame on me not proof checking my comment. I feel silly now.

@adamfox7071 Год назад

Thank you for letting me know though 😉🙂

@Sprucingiscool Год назад

Who’s that

@adamfox7071 Год назад

@@Sprucingiscool no one , I didn't proof read what I wrote. Hopefully it's coming across correctly now.

@hectortelloc Год назад

I knew I recognized the lady from this story, I seen her in a video by CoffeeHouse crime , what made Mr Ballen's telling of the story different is he told it from a different persons point of view, so when he got to the main story I honestly didn't see that coming.

@janmartinez6103 Год назад

He’s a Scammer

@jbell430 Год назад

@@janmartinez6103 What is the scam? Just curious.

@doctordookiemf Год назад

same here! i didn't realize it was the same story until the footage of law enforcement busting down her door

@divadawn509 Год назад

I recognized this case too when I saw the picture of Deborah. I think I saw Emma Kenny do it. She usually adds a ton of detail to the cases she covers but Mr. Ballen really draws you in to the story by the way he tells it.

@TriggerIsAngry Год назад

Thank you! I couldn’t place where I knew this story from and your comment reminded me of coffeehouse crime.

@slay8415 11 месяцев назад

Your story telling capabilities are amazing BUT your ways of telling us about sponsors are top notch! I look forward to hearing about Ol’ Lungy too! Anyone else ever wonder what it’s like in MrBallens mind? Lol the like button torchers and the sponsor advertising he comes up with is just so imaginative!

@moy9022 Год назад

Thank you so much for your uploadings, they are very interesting and easy to understanding.l have subscribed your channel.

@jeriannroberts1816 Год назад

John Ballen, the Alfred Hitchcock of our time. Get on board folks this young man can spin the truth into a online short story like no other. Thanks for this new one John. Happy New Year 🎉

@horsthooden4600 Год назад

I love Mr Ballen, but thats a poor comparison, as Hitchcock was an author and if Mr Ballen wd make these storys up, he wouldnt be Mr Ballen.

@SamanthaLeigh7 Год назад

His name is actually John B Allen 😉

@mytruthslays1303 Год назад

Calm down.

@Losersupvotetheirowncomment Год назад

This is one of the stupidest comments I have ever read lmao. MrBallen is the next Spielberg, give him a month and he’ll put out the same quality as Schindler’s List/Jurassic Park/Saving PrivateEyan

@sweetsweet81 Год назад

John B. Allen. He took the B (for Benjamin) and added it to his last name.

@swest9159 Год назад

I love this guy!!! I LMBO when doing the sponsor ad!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣! This guy just keeps getting better and better!! As for the story, so tragic! So glad she was caught!!!!!

@BeRightBack131 Год назад

Yeah, I love him, too! His ads are hilarious. Sometimes I go back and watch them again just because he's so hilarious. If there are any smart companies out there, they'd be banging on his door to have him do all their ads for products or services. He'd make them fortunes, lol.

@ATHARVplayz609 Год назад

He is like the one guy on yt who can make me sit through a whole sponsored section of a video which is about NordVPN lol

@jenevievegroff9178 10 месяцев назад

I’ve been working and listening to the podcast and yt videos and i can literally hear when he dipped his head and raises his hands it’s stuck in my mind

@adamthomas5936 11 месяцев назад

This is the only channel I don't skip the featured ad so I can keep up to date with Ollllld Lunnngey.

@Thatgirl1976 Год назад

Mr Ballen isn’t just the best story teller on RU-vid but he’s a genius lol. Making those ridiculous and hilarious ads for his sponsors, makes people actually listen to them and not just skip forward.

@Rigbycat123 Год назад

I think there’s more going on with Gemma than losing her temper. Fine she snapped and belted poor Gemma. But…. why was she carrying a knife? And who goes straight from that to hacking someone’s head off? Sounds premeditated to me. We know she went there with the intent to get money. She took the knife cos she already planned to kill Debra and get her hands on her cash if Debra refused to fund her renovations. All I can say is little Miss ‘but I’m innocent’ is far more dangerous and must’ve had a damn good solicitor. In England the sentence is called a Tariff. Being Commonwealth ‘life’ is only 25yrs with the possibility of parole. So I am very pleased to hear the judge took into account how heinous the crime was and raised it to 34yrs. Side note: the Pommy cops often call the battering ram they use to force doors open ‘ the big red key!’ As they are often red. Or ‘the master key to every property in London!’ Hahaha

@PANDAFACEEYES Год назад

I believe it was premeditated. I have seen this story somewhere else before and it went into more detail about those kind of aspects. She's only recently been sentenced so not sure if there are loads of people who have covered this story yet. I think the car was hired so yeah defo premeditated!