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GRUESOME result of medieval SWORD strike on HEAD. 

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WARNING, there is some gruesome footage at the end of this video!
Jason Kingsley, the Modern Knight, weaves a tale of two different types of medieval sword. One certain, one more unknown, and tests one out to devastating effect. #sword #medieval #knight
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@rileyernst9086
@rileyernst9086 3 года назад
Bastard sword: This is grandpa's sword. He was a fine gentleman and slew many enemies in battle. Cleaver: This is grandpa's sword. He hacked people to bits with it.
@Coldyham
@Coldyham 3 года назад
With the first, the sword is the bastard, with the second, it's grandpa
@chroma6947
@chroma6947 3 года назад
And now we will cut down this tree with it, seriously. Thats why little of these exist nowadays, buried due to family reasons or repurposed
@indiomie
@indiomie 2 года назад
@@Coldyham one is a Bastard sword the other is a Bastard's sword
@cdgonepotatoes4219
@cdgonepotatoes4219 2 года назад
If a sword survived many decades, then it likely was hardly ever drawn or a grandfather's axe argument is to bring forward.
@hawkenparker1790
@hawkenparker1790 3 года назад
One of my all time favorite things about you is your respect for the devastation these weapons bring. You just don't shrug it off as history, you grasp the weight of the terror and horror they caused way back when. I've never been able to see a skeleton not think about their family, friends, loved ones, the laughs and jokes they had, all to be stopped by whatever thing bludgeoned them on the head... Terrible....
@sarahleonard7309
@sarahleonard7309 Год назад
I think it's the difference between a historian who studies in a library or a museum, and a person who has fought using these weapons, been hit by these weapons. He doesn't have to work hard to imagine himself in the place of that simulated head. Having said that, he also appears to just genuinely be a compassionate person.
@killernor23
@killernor23 3 года назад
You should try it on horse back against chain mail and see if it can cut through on a ballistic torso.
@alamore5084
@alamore5084 3 года назад
GREAT idea. Would love to see this wealded on horseback. Obviously with the horse wearing a crinet and shaffron in case a chop goes awry.
@toddellner5283
@toddellner5283 3 года назад
I can also see the horse saying "Boss, I'm down with the long stick. I've even gotten used to the swingy shiny stick, but if you're waving that thing around me we need to talk."
@inthefade
@inthefade 3 года назад
It would be awesome, but very unethical to endanger a horse using a weapon like that imo.
@MusikCabaret
@MusikCabaret 3 года назад
@@alamore5084 hows that a great idea? the illustration he showed in the video literally shows it being used on horseback cutting a torso in half.
@alamore5084
@alamore5084 3 года назад
@@MusikCabaret Some representations in drawings are accurate others less so. It would be interesting to prove or disprove the damage which could be dealt. Plus would be rather good fun. Similar to Tods Workshop with the ubiquitous leg of lamb.
@OlaftheFlashy
@OlaftheFlashy 3 года назад
"It was too big to be called a sword. Massive, thick, heavy, and far too rough. Indeed, it was a heap of raw iron."
@suspicioustumbleweed4760
@suspicioustumbleweed4760 3 года назад
Basuzo’s death possible confirmed
@OlaftheFlashy
@OlaftheFlashy 3 года назад
Man of culture I see. In fairness you would also have to factor in tha Bazuco was in a harness of full plate armour (probably of at least descent quality, but ultimately that's not qualifable). I guess someone more knowledgable on physic than myself would have to run the sums on this one, though they would have to specaluate on the type of steel used. That said - even if Guts couldn't cut the armour he'd probably would had enough intertial torque with his top heavy weapon to kill Bazuso from the blunt force impact alone. And you know, rule of cool.
@amyrat151
@amyrat151 3 года назад
It's like an axe-sword. Is there a word for axe-sword besides "axe-sword?"
@gob8883
@gob8883 2 года назад
Basically the realistic/practical version of "greatswords" in fantasy games.
@joshdeller548
@joshdeller548 2 года назад
@@amyrat151 Seax is pretty close tbh
@ToniGaSi
@ToniGaSi 3 года назад
I came here expecting a show of two blades choping things but instead I found a great speach about the fact that we need to rethink the way we are studying history in our museums. And it was totally worth it. My congratulations to you Jason, you are not only teaching us stuff, you are also making us think to learn better.
@Elcore
@Elcore 3 года назад
The mixture of sadness, anger, horror and excitement in Jason's voice when describing the choppy boi is the part that needed the content warning.
@FragGile
@FragGile 3 года назад
Could just listen to this guy all day, never gets boring
@fueeegooo
@fueeegooo 3 года назад
Agreed! I eagerly wait for every new video of his!
@MrPoupard
@MrPoupard 3 года назад
Yes. Very fine communicator and knows his onions.
@alexfarkas3881
@alexfarkas3881 3 года назад
@RIchy J Films 2021 Buy games made by Rebellion and you'll be using your game money to pay Jason for more content 😁
@JP-xd6fm
@JP-xd6fm 2 года назад
@@alexfarkas3881 I didn't know about that!, Thanks sir!
@JP-xd6fm
@JP-xd6fm 2 года назад
@@alexfarkas3881 I think he should join forces with warhorse studios and make the Kingdom Come deliverance 2 together!, with the knowelege Jason has about medieval times plus his game studio that would be a great great game. I wonder why is not common practice to do a collaboration between studios to create masterpieces.
@rotwang2000
@rotwang2000 3 года назад
When we look at the bodies found in battlefield burial sites, they have injuries that make the worst GoT and other movies/series can throw at us seem tame in comparison. We have evidence that wounded men would use their arms and hands in an attempt to ward off blows and cuts, before they had their heads hit repeatedly to kill them.
@stefanfranke5651
@stefanfranke5651 3 года назад
Indeed. I remember the docu about the battle of Visby. Gave me nightmares :c
@wattyler9806
@wattyler9806 3 года назад
Brutal.
@RaDiumDrummer
@RaDiumDrummer 3 года назад
I recently was at Gotland Museum and had a look at the battle of Visby exhibition. There was a skull with like 4 holes and 3 crossbow bolts sticking out of the back of the head. He was probably running from the battle and shot down with a volley and later bashed with a battle pick for good measure.
@wattyler9806
@wattyler9806 3 года назад
Towton in England in the 1381 I think forgive me if I'm wrong on the date. Or visbe in Denmark in the 1360s in Towton a lot of head wounds in visbe they cut cut there legs and feet to get them down then finished them off in visbe they were farmers against danish professionals and German soldiers of fortune.
@daveh3997
@daveh3997 3 года назад
@@wattyler9806 The Battle of Towton was on 29 March 1461 But that confusion is understandable as you died leading the Peasants' Revolt in 1381.
@Gilgamezsh72
@Gilgamezsh72 3 года назад
"A brutal majesty". Very well put and I agree. Sometimes when a thing is made, not to be pretty, but to be very good at a particular task it's sheer ruthless practicality gives it a kind of beauty.
@michaelhoward487
@michaelhoward487 3 года назад
That head-chop gives the term "defaced" a whole new interpretation.
@breandan3280
@breandan3280 3 года назад
The Japanese have a weapon called a nagimaki which is the same as "choppy boy" for all intents and purposes. I think it's mostly an infantry weapon though. It's always amazing to me how two cultures, separated by thousands of miles, come up with similar tools.
@cingkrimson4719
@cingkrimson4719 3 года назад
I was quite surprised he didn't talk about the nagamaki in the video and also about the lack of its mention in the comments. "Choppy boy" just looks like a machete-bladed nagamaki to me.
@Beryllahawk
@Beryllahawk 3 года назад
convergent evolution of weaponry, I guess? I mean...physics dictates that a certain shape and weight and length of blade is going to have certain effects. So...need to chop at the enemy foot soldiers? There ya go :D
@gussie88bunny
@gussie88bunny 3 года назад
Nagimaki hand placement doesn't shift much, if at all, similar to how you fight with a katana. The thrust is very important, and cuts are just that, sliding cuts. No hectic chops. Weight distribution is a hand width or so forward of the handle. The blades were made just like any other sword of the time, so weren't cheap. In effect, nagimaki are more like a one-handed arming sword with a mega-long hilt. This machete thing shown here is quite different .... cheap, no great thrust, tip-heavy, no recorded manual of arms.
@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx
@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx 3 года назад
Nagimaki is point less the's like the Nagimaki plus blunt force
@robyngrieve9665
@robyngrieve9665 3 года назад
I remember seeing representations of a similar weapon used by the Shogun's female bodyguards at Nijo Castle. It had a longer handle and his household attendants were trained in its use.
@RedWolfRun
@RedWolfRun 3 года назад
“It hasn’t told me what it’s called yet.” I really like that and it makes sense.
@m.maclellan7147
@m.maclellan7147 3 года назад
I think he should name this "Mule" & his 'Mule with no name' as "Choppy Boy"! ;)
@timhartherz5652
@timhartherz5652 3 года назад
Super-separator.
@noybeeswax
@noybeeswax 3 года назад
You celebrate different moon cycles don’t you?
@RedWolfRun
@RedWolfRun 3 года назад
@@noybeeswax uh, what?
@noybeeswax
@noybeeswax 3 года назад
@@RedWolfRun nothing, he’s waiting for a pixie 🧚‍♀️ to whisper the name in his ear 👍
@tommeakin1732
@tommeakin1732 3 года назад
Honestly, there's nothing about these weapons that makes me think they wouldn't have been used. Even in a battlefield saturated with mail, I can see something like this being a viable weapon. Even if you're not capable of cutting through mail in most circumstances, the amount of force transferred on a fine edge by a top heavy 2kg bar of steel of that length is absolutely going to break bones, even through mail and gambeson. If you want a sword-like weapon to be a viable primary weapon on a battlefield full of mail, one way of going about that could be to make it big and top heavy
@romgl4513
@romgl4513 3 года назад
The question is, how long could a man swing such a heavy weapon. And by the rather rare use, I would say, not long. Weapons like spears, axes and maces are usually surprisingly light.
@MrBottlecapBill
@MrBottlecapBill 3 года назад
@@romgl4513 Pole arms are pretty heavy they were in use commonly for ages. Sure you can't swing this for long full force but ideally you don't have to throw all your strength into every blow. Just let the weight of it do the work and of course your buddies are there to watch your back and like all fighting armies they would spell off to relieve each other on the front line. I personally see this as shock weapon.......for killing horses, breaking shield walls or even for chopping off the points of polearms. Sometimes ou have little guns, sometimes medium guns and then you have big guns. Maybe even just a man at arms solution to the poleaxe.
@stefanfranke5651
@stefanfranke5651 3 года назад
@@romgl4513 They are not exactly rarely used. You see similar types in many depictions of the 13th and 15th cent. book illustration. I would even dare to question the accuracy of the reproduction Jason wields (I hope he doesn't read this :/ ) I think as weapon type they are somewhat inspired by woodclearing or buchering implements but clearly they are specialised (longer, two handed) weapons for war. The same as you wouldn't make a battle axe as heavy and thick as a tree felling axe, they also would make the blades thinner. That clearly gets evident by looking at Falchions or later Messers, which mostly have a rather thin blade, a narrow back and good distal taper. I'd say 1 to 1.5 kilo would be sufficient for a stable blade, would make the weapon more nimble in the hand, much cheaper to produce in high numbers and the "Chopper" would become rather a "Slicer" in the end.
@mawe9878
@mawe9878 3 года назад
@@romgl4513 It's 2.1 kg, heavier than most swords but still not very heavy. The action of using it reminds me a bit of chopping wood and people can do that for hours on end without the added incentive of mortal danger.
@michelangelo1136
@michelangelo1136 3 года назад
[Greatsword intensifies]
@josephmatthews7698
@josephmatthews7698 2 года назад
Reminds me of Chinese swords. I honestly expected weighted rings to be installed where the X's are. In fact the legendary (and historical!) warrior Guan Yu used something similar only the handle was elongated into a polearm but he was also reported to be nearly seven foot tall so it fit him quite well.
@nathanksimpson
@nathanksimpson Год назад
My sentiments exactly. East Asia has some of these weapons which are somewhat between a two-handed sword like a claymore and a polearm. Japan has the naginata.
@norbertschanne1943
@norbertschanne1943 Год назад
had the same idea. Guandaos dating back to the Mongolian Yuan dynasty survived, and it might have been that Eureopean armies may have been confronted with these weapons during the mongol invasions in the 13th century.
@tomvhresvelg9286
@tomvhresvelg9286 Год назад
@@nathanksimpson Nagamaki was closer to 2 handed sword.
@redclayscholar620
@redclayscholar620 3 года назад
"People call them 'ork swords'..." 'UMIEZ CALL 'EM WOTEVA BUT ORKZ CALL 'EM CHOPPAZ!
@codyparker679
@codyparker679 3 года назад
I was thinking Tolkien orcs. I see you are thinking Warhammer
@paavobergmann4920
@paavobergmann4920 3 года назад
@@codyparker679 mooaaar choppaz!
@KristofKristoferos
@KristofKristoferos 3 года назад
Waaaaaaaaaaaaagh!!!!!
@balderfrey20
@balderfrey20 3 года назад
Get to the choppazz?
@paavobergmann4920
@paavobergmann4920 3 года назад
@@balderfrey20 Mega-Choppazz!
@edi9892
@edi9892 3 года назад
I agree. The sword you carried every day and probably used only once or twice was made to show your status and it got passed on. The same can't be said about your poleaxe, which probably got used until it was too chipped... This oversized falchion looks like something men at arms and lower nobility may use. Cheap, but devastating against lightly armored troops. Something you wouldn't be too sad, if it gets chipped...
@edi9892
@edi9892 3 года назад
Also, a personal defense weapon for every day carry will have vastly different requirements. (easier to carry and draw, probably more agile for partying and more versatile)
@misterdayne2792
@misterdayne2792 3 года назад
@@edi9892 That monstrosity might even be deadlier if it stated to get chipped, with small jagged edges along the blade, mimicking the teeth of a saw.
@edi9892
@edi9892 3 года назад
@@misterdayne2792 Not necessarily from my personal experience. The best cuts I've had were with a mediocre grind, which feels on the finger like a shard of glass; something that is jagged, but only on a near microscopic level. However, such a grind doesn't hold on for long, just like a perfect razor grind. However, both would be probably ideal for self-defense, meaning when you want the optimal results but don't need the blade to last. Blunter blades, even if they cut somewhat paper perform far worse in cutting most targets and obvious chips do entangle with cloth and prevent the rest from cutting.
@triela420
@triela420 3 года назад
@@edi9892 I call that sandpaper sharp. Easy to achieve it with medium rough sandpaper, and it'll bite into things like flesh or fabrics as easy as something razor sharp but as soon as you touch something with any resistance at all, like just drawing it across wood it smooths the rough edge out.
@edi9892
@edi9892 3 года назад
@@triela420 you can even do it on a concrete pillar...
@pritzi101
@pritzi101 3 года назад
Fascinating, engaging and horrific. Just thinking of some real person being wiped out of existence like that is genuinely awful.
@inthefade
@inthefade 3 года назад
Yes. There is no romance with this weapon. It is just the cold, brutal, and honest truth of violence and war. I think it is the only ancient weapon I've seen that just leaves me feeling a sense of dread, sickness and despair. It even sent some chills up my spine. Pretty dang cool!
@johnnymontalvo5620
@johnnymontalvo5620 3 года назад
I love your theory about museums. It makes perfect sense: the items in our lives that are used, often get used until they break! I love weapons like these - the falchion type weapons. Practical items that people actually used. As an aside, it dimensionally almost reminds me of a Japanese Nagamaki, which is essentially a katana, but with a grip of about the same length as your choppy boy. I’d have to assume that they were used similarly.
@ИванКузнецов-ш1п
@ИванКузнецов-ш1п 2 года назад
I guess nagamaki is more of a naginata, but with a rope 'round the handle. Maki, btw, means "rope".
@AirLancer
@AirLancer 2 года назад
@@ИванКузнецов-ш1п Nah, proportions and blade type are very different. Nagamaki is like a katana except with a super long handle, about 1/2 the weapon's total length.
@ИванКузнецов-ш1п
@ИванКузнецов-ш1п 2 года назад
@@AirLancer I agree and do not at the same time. Naginata's kind of a katana itself. Differences are mostly in proportions. The other thing is that, as far as I remember, nagamaki was born from naginata. You see, naginata ca be quite short, just like europian polearms - about ones hight. And a blade can be about 60 cm. Thus, it is not that different from nagamaki.
@KaneyoriHK
@KaneyoriHK 2 года назад
It also feels like a temp weapon given people while their orders are being made
@andydeadpool8923
@andydeadpool8923 3 года назад
I love the way you stood there for a few seconds, then "Yuck!" Sometimes you make my day, you really do!
@deviltrigger29
@deviltrigger29 3 года назад
One swing, clean in half, crown to jaw. Brutal.
@philipwebb960
@philipwebb960 3 года назад
Don't worry, he got better.
@DanielDangerous
@DanielDangerous 3 года назад
@@philipwebb960 oh nice, I was worried about that
@toddellner5283
@toddellner5283 3 года назад
That's war. Brutal and horrifying.
@fitz3540
@fitz3540 2 года назад
I used something very similar to this on a daily basis as a brush cutting tool in the woods! It definitely has a farm-implement feeling about it
@vaughanellis7866
@vaughanellis7866 3 года назад
The 'Choppy Boy' was a tool, a workaday weapon of battle, the Sword was as symbol of Chivalry, If the 'Choppy Boy' was damaged or lost it was no big loss and after battle would as you say been collected up and repurposed into any number of things, the Sword had a higher investment in it and looks nice, it would be better looked after
@eatleadcobra
@eatleadcobra 3 года назад
On the subject of conjecture, I would think a weapon like that would also find a lot of use as a tool. As you said it's basically a two handed machete. Would have made a great medieval bush hog. Probably used until it was chipped to pieces and then the steel repurposed.
@loonloon9365
@loonloon9365 3 года назад
Does anyone know the name of this sword or where I can find illustrations on it?
@Madlyshort
@Madlyshort 3 года назад
@@loonloon9365 medievalbritain.com/type/medieval-life/weapons/medieval-falchion/ however, this one has been specially made from a single image with a long handle, it's the same type of blade, some nice pictures in the link from the article.
@richardpashos
@richardpashos 3 года назад
@@loonloon9365 maciejowski bible falchion/chopper/cleaver
@egregiouscharles9702
@egregiouscharles9702 3 года назад
After watching this video but before seeing your comment, I was thinking of making one of these for brush hog use. I have a lot of a particular kind of shrub I want to clear that's too heavy for a machete but too light for a chainsaw. I need to think about how often I'd have the clear space to swing it though.
@genghiskhan6809
@genghiskhan6809 3 года назад
@@egregiouscharles9702 Cold Steel has a machete like this called the 2-handed Latin Machete.
@marbethnix
@marbethnix Месяц назад
Ive heard so many times accounts of heads being split in battle, that really brought it home!
@bostonrailfan2427
@bostonrailfan2427 3 года назад
hmmm.was the long “choppy boy” perhaps an anti-horse sword?
@Itsuydamshame
@Itsuydamshame 3 года назад
Sure could've been
@Handyguy223
@Handyguy223 3 года назад
I had never considered why a bastard sword was actually called that. I learned something in the first minute and then much more. Thanks for all you do and you're love of history. As long as you keep making videos I and I'm sure many others will keep watching them.
@steventhehistorian
@steventhehistorian 5 месяцев назад
You make a compelling point about how the most used implements may have been so mundane at the time that they weren't preserved. I never looked at it that way!
@thkwek7376
@thkwek7376 3 года назад
looks incredibly like a chinese 'horse chopping sword' (zhanmadao).
@hardcode57
@hardcode57 3 года назад
When I saw 'choppy boy' I immediately thought 'hog splitter': not a sword but a tool that used to be used in abattoires for e.g. quartering a carcass.
@cerebraldreams4738
@cerebraldreams4738 3 года назад
Honestly, these swords were probably used for woodwork, land clearance, and animal butchering after the war was over. After a while the blade gets too damaged to keep using, but the metal itself is valuable, so it gets sold off for scrap.
@TheMonkey747
@TheMonkey747 3 года назад
He's likely correct in saying the people portrayed using weapons like these in illustrations were likely thought to be callous, brutal individuals that earned their title of Butcher. So are portrayed with butchering tools.
@yajurka
@yajurka 3 года назад
This is what you get when butcher gets conscripted. Poor mr. Jelly had no chance.
@toddellner5283
@toddellner5283 3 года назад
As I mentioned elsewhere I think there's a very good chance that this is exactly what's at work here. This looks like a very old side-splitter/meat axe.
@ryanrobot7975
@ryanrobot7975 2 года назад
Is it just me or does the big chopper, look like an amazing anti-cavalry weapon. Especially if you're going after the horse, which I imagine was not the most chivalrous way to go about it.
@kathleenball7910
@kathleenball7910 3 года назад
There is a horrid beauty in the slow motion replay. Given that our ancestors (minstrels and “historians” in particular) were demonstrably given to romanticizing wars and their implements, I think you may have something there in your hypothesis. Makes you realize just how many little mysteries of our own history there are yet to solve.
@Arcaryon
@Arcaryon 3 года назад
I always enjoy the more visual depictions or images for this reason, while not free form bias or outright lies, they tend to be more precise in their depictions as visuals are easily translatable throughout time while even actual historic records can feel almost deprived of life by comparison. Knowing what a small skirmish actually does for instance, changes the weight of, what might just be a minor sentence in an normal record.
@stephenschan
@stephenschan 3 года назад
The contrast between this gentleman’s chivalrous demeanor and soft, lilting accent at the beginning, as opposed to finishing with the demonstrably medieval butchery and surprising smattering of scrumptious jam- it’s truly, remarkably striking. Indeed, ol’ Choppy Boy ended the video rightly. I shall now go spend fifteen minutes online … and save hundreds on insurance.
@ValkyrieVal3
@ValkyrieVal3 2 года назад
Oh, the preservation bias issue is a known thing in the historical fashion side of things as well. People think that oh, everyone back then was absolutely tiny and wore these gorgeous outfits all the time! Nah. You're basically seeing some combination of best clothes worn by the 5% and absolute tiniest clothing worn by the smallest people. 1) Everyday clothing was used and reused to shreds, as anyone who's ever worn out a favourite T-shirt can tell you, but your fancy, formal clothes are preserved incredibly well (wedding dresses, formal dresses, extreme high heels, etc) - the corsets that are too small/curvy unless you lose weight or just want to look fancy for a night, or the panniers or hoop skirts that are too wide to be practical 2) Fabric was expensive and clothes were liable to be cut and tailored down to fit the next person, until there was no one around who could wear it. So Mary, the 5'8 linebacker of a Regency woman, passes her clothes down to her average height sister, and then from her average height sister to her absolute *waif* of a cousin, etc until oh well, there's not enough fabric to make a new gown out of that. 3) The luxury to not use and reuse every available scrap of fabric to shreds was VERY much a 5% thing. Mary and her family would be well-off to be able to just go "eh fuck it, just throw it in a chest and we'll deal with it another day" rather than "well, I can still use that cloth for a new apron and the scraps for a patchwork blanket, get the scissors"
@Sharon-bo2se
@Sharon-bo2se Год назад
Very good point about museum collections! When I worked on digs, I usually wound up in middens because that was where we could find the detritus of life. Usually not fancy, like much of what ended up in museums. An area of controversy as to what really worked and, not surprisingly, how much was repurposed over and over again. Metals, textiles, stone, are time, resources, and labour intensive so you make an excellent argument. Kind of wondering what damage Choppy Boy would do to a pig carcass; the skull and brain matter head was shocking.
@Cricket2731
@Cricket2731 Год назад
The folks at "Forged in Fire" would have fun recreating these weapons! And Doug Markaida's "It will KEAL!!!" (Keep Everyone ALive) would be perfect!
@matiasrisso5917
@matiasrisso5917 3 года назад
Arya: "Lots of people name their swords" Hound: "Lots of c*nts" Great video as usual!
@jjf3161
@jjf3161 3 года назад
Lmaoo. Exactly what came to mind when i heard him say it.🤣
@erickent3557
@erickent3557 Год назад
Very much like your reminder regarding potential "selection" forces at play regarding which items may or may not have survived into museums.
@ModernKnight
@ModernKnight Год назад
My fave T-shirts and other clothes get used up, worn out and thrown away. I have a jacket that I haven't worn in twenty years, that was expensive and is still in great condition!
@cyberiusrex2343
@cyberiusrex2343 3 года назад
The "choppy boy" really just looks like the "big bad brute guy"'s blade. The rugged, no non-sense look really has its charm, ngl.
@Eowyn3Pride
@Eowyn3Pride 3 года назад
Imagine that in the hands of #EddieHall or #BrianShaw 😳😱!
@joofbing
@joofbing 3 года назад
I think your suspicion of essentially survival bias of museum items makes sense. 👍🏻
@DarwinsTable
@DarwinsTable Год назад
My new favourite quote "it will chop, it will kill, it will end him rightly".
@neliusbresnan3766
@neliusbresnan3766 2 года назад
I can see the choppy-boy being terrifyingly-effective by a mounted-knight against lightly-armoured foot-soldiers. But I wonder if it would be a preferred choice against another similarly-skilled/armed/armoured opponent. The wind-up is pretty big and if somebody else had something smaller and lighter then they could be sticking the pointy-end into you while you were still winding-up to cut them into two large pieces. It reminds me of one of the rules of a gunfight; Fast is fine, but accuracy is final. So maybe you'd be riding across the battle field mowing-down poor infantrymen like grass and when you fetch up against another knight you toss-away your choppy-boy and pull out something smaller-and-handier.
@ryanmarr5243
@ryanmarr5243 3 года назад
Ngl watching the face roll back along the blade was the ultimate expression of choppy boys wrecking ability
@iainjones695
@iainjones695 3 года назад
Hey Jason, I saw you the other day jousting in the 2009 David Starkey series “Henry VIII - Mind Of A Tyrant. Didn’t recognise you at first as your hair was shorter. Do you remember doing it?
@ModernKnight
@ModernKnight 3 года назад
Yes I was in that, filmed over a couple of days. Yes, more traditional short hair then.
@iainjones695
@iainjones695 3 года назад
@@ModernKnight thanks for the reply. It looked like a good event!
@lechatel
@lechatel 3 года назад
@@ModernKnight did you ever work with Grahame Crowther? We sold his house for him in Normandy. Interesting chap and brilliant at stunts.
@rossgagne5494
@rossgagne5494 2 года назад
I think you are completely on point with weapons that found their way into collection's. It makes sense.
@erichusayn
@erichusayn 3 года назад
Would be cool to see a video of your entire sword collection.
@llabronco
@llabronco 3 года назад
I've watched a good number of your videos and I'm not sure if I've ever heard you cover this so forgive me if you have, but have you ever discussed what happened after a battle was over? Did soldiers rummage through the dead bodies strewn on the field? Was it kind of 'finders-keepers' for any weapons they found laying on the ground, which had belonged to slain men? Or was there a system in place in which knights divided up materials among their men? I can't imagine they let much go to waste.
@enidan_
@enidan_ 3 года назад
What an interesting question, I've never thought about that. Would love to find some information about it.
@stefanfranke5651
@stefanfranke5651 3 года назад
I only know some german articles on the topic but this video of Invicta answers your question quite well: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RIGnZD5iWh0.html . I highly reccomend this channel if you want to dig deeper into ancient and medieval warfare as well everyday life and culture. It has awesome artwork as well.
@therealhellkitty5388
@therealhellkitty5388 3 года назад
That’s often what the “spoils of war” were for the foot troops. Bodies were stripped of all useable materials from shoes to hood and everything in between. If you could strip a knight, you were in high cotton. I would imagine that the architecture of a helmet could be designed to deflect the worst blows of a choppy boi weapon. The rest of the body, however, would be woefully at risk of heavy damage.
@CruelDwarf
@CruelDwarf 3 года назад
It was entirely dependent on how well army was organized. In general the approach was 'you kill it - you take its stuff'. And as "soldiers" (not really soldiers back then but term is still adequate) fought in groups, they usually had to divide the trophies internally within the group. Sometimes 'kills' and especially rich trophies were contested between people or groups and it caused conflicts up to outright fighting between victors. And whatever leftovers remained after the initial phase of the looting by the soldiers on the battlefield were then picked up by camp followers and local denizens. There were instances of guards being posted on the battlefield to prevent locals from going and stripping everything bare. So this kinda classical picture from movies, games or even fiction of battlegrounds littered with bodies that have still armor, clothing and weapons is in general very unrealistic. Everything of value was stripped from the dead, up to removing teeth from the corpses to sell to the medieval dentists.
@jamie_d0g978
@jamie_d0g978 3 года назад
@@CruelDwarf Jesus fucking christ... The teeth? What a time to be alive uh?
@llabronco
@llabronco 3 года назад
Wouldn't it be great if somewhere, centuries ago, in their language at the time, soldiers also referred to the long single-edged blades as "choppy boys?" haha
@KroM234
@KroM234 3 года назад
Funny thing is they probably did, as this kind of habits in Mankind is probably as old as language and tools themselves.
@willek1335
@willek1335 3 года назад
@@KroM234 It remained me how cannons were often named with various names.
@lllPlatinumlll
@lllPlatinumlll Год назад
Are you familiar with a computer game called Mount and Blade? When I played it I found that a bardiche from horse back was brutally effective against all but light horse archers and lancers. If I was able to catch a enemy, exactly as in the illustration, I would bring the blade down with maximum force onto the spine of the rider. I don't doubt at all that breaking a man's back with such a stroke would be possible. To prevent such attacks against myself I would wear my shield on my back where it also saved me from arrows fired by horse archers trying to flank me.
@laurenceT141
@laurenceT141 2 года назад
"turn your swords to ploughshares"... I reckon Choppy Boy makes a better plough than The Sword With No Name.
@nobody8717
@nobody8717 3 года назад
Yeah, war isn't all it's cracked up to be. Messy, disturbing, the manifestation of death.
@hmq9052
@hmq9052 3 года назад
"The Glorious dead" Game, set and match to me.
@Argoon1981
@Argoon1981 3 года назад
War is never glorious, it is and was portrayed has such by the elites, so they could more easily recrute cannon fodder from the "plebe", for their ego wars.
@rotwang2000
@rotwang2000 3 года назад
When you look at battlefield injuries on skeletons, you quickly realize that the wounded wouldn't go easy, they would try to stop blows with their hands and arms before they got hit multiple times on the head since it was often the only vital area they could get at with the chest still protected by armour. Far nastier than our representation of limbs nicely chopped off at a right angle or that finishing spear thrust when the opponent is almost dead anyway. Sobering ...
@supermanlypunch
@supermanlypunch Год назад
That cleaver reminds me of a number of weapons from China and SE Asia. A lot of weapons from those regions feature a single edged blade and a long handle in a similar way. It's almost a borderline between a polearm and a big sword.
@brotesser1452
@brotesser1452 2 года назад
I thought of a farming impliment at first too. Mater if fact we have something very similar to it in our barn. Ours has two handles on the side sticking out like on a Sythe, is lightly curved like a Katana and has round bellys on the blade that make it look like an angels wing. It apparently was used for cuting into stacks of hay.
@alphawolf0020
@alphawolf0020 3 года назад
"Choppy boy does exactly what the name implies" lmao
@pendragonshall
@pendragonshall 3 года назад
Hmm, That's kind of what I was thinking about what happened to them and so many other weapons of war. The "commoners" wouldn't be allowed to keep them most of the time and the nobles who stored them would eventually repurpose them. Who knows how many of these would be used then melted down like you said. Then if more ever needed to be made, simple. Also maybe they were used as plow blades or for chopping wood etc. Think about how many spears must have existed and yet. So few in comparison do. You'd store them. The wood would rot. You have them remove the heads etc. And create new ones if the need arose or melt them down. GREAT video Thank you...
@kinjiru731
@kinjiru731 2 года назад
The second sword reminds me of a number of Japanese weapons that were well suited for their style of fighting. Of course, Europe didn't make its way to Japan until mid 16th Century, so I'm not suggesting a direct link, but it certainly reminds me of the kind of weapon more popular in that culture.
@CymroMawr
@CymroMawr 8 месяцев назад
Convergent evolution of arms and armour, surprisingly common event.
@Jo1066milton
@Jo1066milton 2 года назад
There are dead knights embroidered along the bottom of the Bayeux Tapestry, and some of them look as if a blade like the falchion might have been used.
@johnnywalking83
@johnnywalking83 3 года назад
That was awesome! From my mind, I think your conjecture is spot on about how and why some things survived and others didn't.
@ragnkja
@ragnkja 3 года назад
It’s consistent with other examples of survivorship bias in museum pieces. For example, small garments are more likely to have survived than larger ones, because they were harder to make over into new styles, and more likely to have been someone’s memento of a special occasion in their youth, such as a young woman’s “coming out”.
@pawepluta4883
@pawepluta4883 Год назад
Similar, but smaller sword is kept in Poznań Archdiocesan Museum as "Saint Peter's sword", the ear-cutting one.
@user-ns3vs3bp3e
@user-ns3vs3bp3e 3 года назад
I was literally typing I bet a lot of those cheap two handers were converted to farming tools after battle as you said “it’s likely a lot were repurposed” it just makes sense that an expensive knight’s sword would be kept but a cheap rudimentary blade would be scrapped into something more useful once the fighting was done (especially when you consider a knights sword is a week of work and these are half a day for a blacksmith to make a new one, I just don’t see people valuing them beyond their material after battle)
@Kozu604
@Kozu604 3 года назад
I want to call it a war cleaver just looking at it.
@Rb889
@Rb889 3 года назад
Fitting name for it. I can see them being used widely by footmen and mounted soldiers, cheaper than a proper sword and providing a different means of offense from a spear, while also being much easier/faster to fabricate, and train people to use. It also seems to me that they would be exceptionally effective against mounted knights. Direct that big, honking great blade towards a horse's legs, and suddenly, that mounted knight probably has several broken bones with his dick in the dirt. Almost forgot, something like that would easily be repurposed into a farming implement, if not broken down and reforged into multiple farming tools. Makes sense few, if any would survive the centuries.
@Vortigan07
@Vortigan07 Год назад
Now that's a savage piece of kit! I couldn't help but think of Anne Boleyn at the end there, could this type of weapon, I wonder, be an ancestor of the kind of executioner's sword likely used on that day, albeit possibly a little less sophisticated.
@mblind
@mblind 3 года назад
That choppy boy is the sort of thing that would, proverbially, get beaten into multiple plow shears
@ianturton6889
@ianturton6889 3 года назад
Great to see you back again. Interesting as always
@bakairosan4126
@bakairosan4126 3 года назад
Wow you just solved some of the mysteries archeologist have for years now. There are documentaries showing some archeologist being unable to figure out how and which weapon caused the gruesome damage to some remains, as the popular weapons of time couldn't do so. Introduce them to Choppy Boy here and they might get enlightened.
@cathrynbreeding1285
@cathrynbreeding1285 3 года назад
I wonder also if it is less about the aesthetics of to choppy sword but more the class of the man who used it. Fancy swords are a way of identifying rank, class, and wealth. The more brutal but effective laymen weapons would not necessarily boast the same. Then, once the campaigns were over, what would lower classed men to do with this violent and obviously lower class weapon? At that point farm, trade, and home necessities would be more needed. I feel like, much like the wardrobes of the lower classes, the tools and weaponry would also be less known. I mean, outside background characters on a tapestry or manuscript, who really cared enough to record much about the lessers much less keep the implements of wars they were forced to fight? I do think this is a case of survival bias meeting the basic reality of being poor in history. Why don't we have many extant examples of servant clothing? the wore them til they were rags, then used them for cleaning until they were tinder or fodder.
@Folsomdsf2
@Folsomdsf2 3 года назад
I wouldn't think the laymen would use a sword. That requires moer finesse and learning about edge alignment. sure you could teach that in the army but you could also teach them to use a spear more effectively. I dunno, this could definitely be a weapon used in my opinion as well, but for the same cost you could make many spears instead.
@MostorAstrakan
@MostorAstrakan 3 года назад
7:12 Ye gods, that combat scene looks like it was drawn by Maurits C. Escher! The dude is chopping the other one to his left while holding the sword to the right of his horse's neck. Something non-euclidean is going on there!
@stefanfranke5651
@stefanfranke5651 3 года назад
Because the universe was smaller than today, up until 1400-1450 the three dimensions were still very entangled and space was warped and shifted. That's why perspective in artwork was so strange and medieval timberframe houses are always so crooked. You can ask the astro physicists, It's true! :) Must have been hell of a relief for Renaissance people back then!
@BranDenhauer
@BranDenhauer 2 года назад
That...was both brutal and horrific. I want one
@kylejscheffler
@kylejscheffler 3 года назад
I see Jason has his best Ash Williams face going on in the thumbnail, Groovy!
@dersaegefisch
@dersaegefisch 3 года назад
The second sword looks a bit like a mixture of a sword and a pole-arm. A bastard pole-sword maybe?
@carldehaven7672
@carldehaven7672 3 года назад
Shortened glaive like a crow's beak compared to a longer Halbert. What readily comes to mind was in "Braveheart" showing butcher's meat axes being brought to the battlefield.
@notyouraccount6038
@notyouraccount6038 Год назад
Perhaps the reason why we dont have suviving examples of this 2 handed falsion, is because the blade is the same as the 1 handed counterpart and handle is made of organic material that deconposes. Similar to how the katanas blades can be tunerd to pole weapons by adding a bigger handle.
@mousermind
@mousermind Год назад
Obviously, we need to name the bastard "Stabby Boi" now.
@JamesThomas-pj2lx
@JamesThomas-pj2lx 3 года назад
"Steal the face right off your head."
@wiredrabbit5732
@wiredrabbit5732 3 года назад
Choppy Boy looks like a "coulter" (colter, knife) from a plow. I can certainly imagine that once peace came, those got strapped right back behind the ox. Even during war, "I am just a peaceful farmer sir, I have no weapons...just this old plow". In Japan (which I've studied far more), there is lots of documentation of simillar things.
@AdriRaven
@AdriRaven 2 года назад
In the old Mount and Blade: Warband game, they have something that seems like it'd be very similar to "Choppy Boy". There, they call it a ... 'Shortened Military Scythe', I think, like it was a scythe either made for a peasant levy or converted, perhaps. It's not a one to one comparison, because the scythe as they depict it has a definite stabby point to it, but it has a sword-length blade with a single choppy edge and that sort of lengthened, hilt-like handle, presumably cut down from a longer pole. The graphic they use makes it look like a neat, cheap, but low-rent Messer knockoff, but that's what "Choppy Boy" makes me think of. Fun stuff!
@macrendilysmir1876
@macrendilysmir1876 3 года назад
In before YT gets to it. This just shows how important armour really is and why armies turned from mostly levies to fully professional.
@kasperbuyens3562
@kasperbuyens3562 3 года назад
There are 2 youtube channels that will always manage to grab and keep my attention, and that is this one and Lindybeige. Another amazing video!
@ModernKnight
@ModernKnight 3 года назад
Thank you!
@jimintaos
@jimintaos 3 года назад
What occurred to me as I watched you chop the skull is how exposed your entire body was to a sword or spear strike and I thought that this would be more of a post battlefield tool for dispatching the wounded enemy. I could easily imagine a team of gleaners walking through the field of dead and dying. Some whacking with the old choppy boi and the rest collecting the goodies. So this thing would have been a sort of low status harvesting tool.
@fookyuunsa678
@fookyuunsa678 Год назад
The slow mo on the head makes me think wearing someone's face wouldn't be that hard to pull off.
@steevemartial4084
@steevemartial4084 3 года назад
They carefully kept pollaxes, a mix of hammer, axe and spear. They weren't afraid of showing off their brutal weapons.
@bunhelsingslegacy3549
@bunhelsingslegacy3549 3 года назад
My swordhandling group collects post-Halloween pumpkins from local farmers and hosts a giant party where we hack, slice and chop them to bits with any and all weapons deemed safe enough to the handler and audience. I'm the weirdo who brings my farm implements out. Scythe works less well on pumpkins than you'd think because the thick vertical spine that strengthens the horizontal blade gets caught... baseball bat, crowbar and sledgehammer are quite therapeutic, shovels work surprisingly well as a stabby slicey implement, I do not want to face a peasant with a pitchfork even in my plate mail, and my long-handled bush hook is just terrifying. Similar to your Choppy Boy in effect, it's a piece of 6 mm (1/4") steel about30 cm (12") long, 10 cm ( 4") wide with a hook at the end and I use it to take down small trees.
@Julie_b33
@Julie_b33 3 года назад
Had no idea swords even had percussion points, or any idea about percussion points as a concept in general. Love to watch your informative videos!!!
@mirsad7
@mirsad7 Год назад
I have the same thought about plate and mail armour. Plate looks beautifull and expensive so we keep that. Mail even though used much it wasnt as aesthetically pleasing as plate so it got repurpossed. As with many arms and armour that were practical designed.
@docstockandbarrel
@docstockandbarrel 2 года назад
Well, now I’m upset that I’ve already named all my children. *puts Choppy Boy on the list for grandkids.
@stevenkobb156
@stevenkobb156 3 года назад
OUCH! It chops like a guillotine.
@CaldaroneRyan
@CaldaroneRyan 3 года назад
And just like that, we all get a split second glimpse of how absolutely brutal, gruesome, disgusting, visceral, and raw living in the Medieval period was. For all the equally pure and natural aspects of that era off the battlefield, there is this sort of warfare.
@ZedF86
@ZedF86 3 года назад
If you ever get the chance, speak to some vets today about their experiences. They saw the same shit, just done with different implements. When a guy talks about finding a person's body part after they "exploded into this red mist" (Vietnam vet who used to come into a store I worked in) you get the same realization. Hell, just look at the soldiers coming home today who are missing limbs or have other wounds. War is not pretty or glorious for so many reasons.
@Luceq
@Luceq 2 года назад
In modern forces service pistols are barely fired, while your rifle gets bashed all the time. In the end of fighting, your pistol will come home with you. Rifles are just junk.
@aesopstortoise
@aesopstortoise 3 года назад
Choppy Boy looks like the sort of implement that could be used for chopping up animal carcasses. I've seen similar.
@MoonlightDawnMoolightDawn
@MoonlightDawnMoolightDawn 3 года назад
I think you are right about what is on display at the museums -- mostly things they didn't like for one reason or another so the item was preserved. Choppy-boy is a rather scary looking weapon - I would not want to see that coming at me on a battle field.
@busternineshoes
@busternineshoes 3 года назад
Wouldn't a simple weapon like that have been repurposed into something else? Maybe that is why there are no existing examples.
@busternineshoes
@busternineshoes 3 года назад
Oh, you said that when I got further into the video.
@barbellsandbowhunting
@barbellsandbowhunting 3 года назад
I cannot express how much I love these videos.
@A._is_for
@A._is_for 3 года назад
The kind of damage I can do with a simple and common billhook is jarring so it gets used a lot around the cottage and gets regular maintenance. The wall hanger decorative sword is still pristine
@HD-qj1tt
@HD-qj1tt 3 года назад
11:24 - Strong objection. Without a doubt, the choppy-boy sword could end someone, but without a pommel to throw, there's no way it could end them rightly.
@lochnessmonster5149
@lochnessmonster5149 3 года назад
"Your friend's dead and Meryn Trant's not, because Trant had armor and a big fucking sword." Sandor Clegane.
@OtherThanIntendedPurpose
@OtherThanIntendedPurpose 3 года назад
looking at weapons like this, it is easy to see, and important to remember that the history of man has always been a race between the ability to make armor that could defend against weapons, and the ability to make weapons that defeat the armor of our enemies. this "falchion" for lack of a better description, would be a formidable tool for exactly this purpose.
@cdgonepotatoes4219
@cdgonepotatoes4219 2 года назад
Imagine being hit in the helmet by the spine of the choppy boy, with so much energy behind it I wouldn't be able to wake up. Even better/worse if someone is charging at you on a horse with the thing, who ever said Hollywood overrepresents decapitation?
@junoknobloch3830
@junoknobloch3830 3 года назад
Great content as usual 👏👌👍🤌
@ModernKnight
@ModernKnight 3 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@shikyojojo2521
@shikyojojo2521 3 года назад
choppy boy definitely gave a splitting headache to that head.....
@ittositto6494
@ittositto6494 3 года назад
that's certainly one way to face off with an opponent
@Delgen1951
@Delgen1951 3 года назад
I can remember when Altana cutlery was selling this swords back in the 1990s.
@AlextheENTP
@AlextheENTP 2 года назад
This reminds me of the Buster Sword in Adventure Town. Took me a long time to save up for that thing, and it was worth it. My adorable little characters look absolutely menacing with it.
@fintandeconnachta5525
@fintandeconnachta5525 2 года назад
"I don't know if there's goo in it or not" Me, who can commonly be found on the firearm side of youtube: Oh yeah, there's goo in that. You are in the middle of the splash zone.
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