GTA Online: How to counter the Toreador 

YES.

They still use the mk2

@@Chilloutandwatchanime Cause they're dumb asf

they did get nerfed. Can’t use them on missions and heist setups

It did, ironically they nerfed the one thing they shouldn't. Gg Rockstar

Probably bested by the hypercar by now, but still great

The deluxo Is crazy

I only use my toreador for justice

Deluxo is easy to deal with at least. Slow, 3 explosive rounds, done.

Try that in a real lobby, not an auto aim lobby. Against actual good players, you'll get 30-5'd by some folks

@@SuckasGetBlitzed oh I know. I tried free aim. There's tons more helicopters and oppressors than auto aim lobbies.

Bingo! Just bear in mind this video was made right after the release of the Omnis :)

Its meh, kinda like communism. On paper, having a helicopter that goes off the radar, with the capability of having barrage or homing rockets sounds like a good counter... however, you gotta be pretty stupid to not hear the chopper or see the giant thing above you. The only way I see it working at least a bit would be if you were the aggressor and got the jump on them, but even then they'd probably see you once you fire your hellish metal rods filled with explosives, and then the akula turns into a giant, slightly more armored buzzard. Im telling you this because I've seen it fist hand, people think that going off the radar means I can't see them but when their giant chrome chopper is whiring above my futo, I just hop out if they haven't shot yet ofc and just pull out a minigun cause usually they fly super low just to get a good shot with missiles, or in rare occasions, bombs, usually cluster too which suck.

In addition, I believe that the akula does need a stealth blade option. Similar to the paraglider thing that has the option for it, a muffler blade to eliminate the amount of noise from the helicopter would help its stealth greatly because rn the thing makes as much noise as a hunter and is just about the size of a terrobyte😅

@@vainrush2070 to be fair, the Akula is pretty silent.

I was going to try the akula but, in our simulated scenario he knows I'm there so... Plus I'd rather go with the Hunter for the Chaff... hunter + gunner is definitely a counter

Also the reason I don't think the Akula would work is because the Toreador is way too agile to be hit

You're forgetting that the Omnis has imani tech and literally cannot be locked, wheras the nightshark can. The omnis is a lot faster as well ;)

@@DemonLordGamingAC0 yes ik that but the toreador has 30 missiles you take 27 it takes 3 to 4 sticky bombs it's a decent counter if you don't have the new car

@@DemonLordGamingAC0 I'm used to fighting mk2 with the nightshark and I've killed my fair share of toredors with the nightshark toredore has 30 rockets the nightshark takes 27 it only takes 3 to 4 stickys to destroy the toredor its a decent counter that what I was pointing out hope it helps

The toreador has infinite missiles

@@DemonLordGamingAC0 yep just looked it up but still the nightshark is a good choice in the fight

If they're dumb enough to approach you

Welcome and I'm glad it's still being recommended! I predicted that it would become more relevant

It's a glitch though, a Godmode speedo would also be very strong against the Toreador. Also, if you watch my other videos you'll see that I never use the MK2 because I despised it. But still, you are right :)

@@DemonLordGamingAC0 Its still a hard skill to learn its not like its free for everybody u have to actually train with it to get good

And god mod speedo van is mods so thers no point of comparing them

If you have it, well, it would definitely win against it. But, the Toreador can still outrun it. You're better off with a tank imo

Hence why it's important to know what if you can attack something. I can definitely kill a nightshark with a Flak Cannon, but It's a defensive counter. Meaning you need to be attacked for it to be effective. Same goes for tanks against the Toreador. They can't chase, and therefore won't be useful if YOU'RE on the attack. Just like fighting on the ground.

Yeah, autoaim really fucks them up

It only needs a map icon. That's fair since the Stromberg has one

Ion think they gon do anything to it it don’t fly middle have limited range

@@DemonLordGamingAC0 yea that’s fair

Except it only tanks at best 5 rockets, it's slow, will be tossed around by rockets, and you'll be wasting money by using it

I want to mention that it is possible to dodge the toreadors missiles however its only for the very experienced. Only ever seen it done in the scramjet by jumping as it's about to hit. Haven't quite figured it out myself

@@TheSoggybiscuit108 Check my video "Missile Behavior explained".

@@TheSoggybiscuit108 I've explained in that old video how missiles work in GTA and how to dodge them every time. So I really suggest you take a look! And you're right. I did not mention sticky bombs. My mistake. I hope I mentioned that 2 RPGs are enough to kill it though

The godmode speedo is very slow though unfortunately. So you can't chase them down unless you go ghost org

I'd recommend that if there ever is a session infested with Toreadors griefing

Oppressor MK1 against the Toreador seems super Toreador sided. I'm curious as to how you can beat one with it

@@DemonLordGamingAC0 my trick to beating something difficult is to use that vehicle against all kinds of people and copy the possibilities and make them one

Thanks a lot!

Not having a vehicle icon is extremely broken for the Toreador. We used to accept that because it was a good way to counter the MK2, which was a bigger problem. Now the MK2 is not a problem and the Toreador still doesn't have an icon. You see why this is op now? Plus, about the Ruiner, it can't even dream to keep up with a Toreador. In the video I mentioned "defensive" and "offensive" counters. What I mean by this is that defensive counters are good for you to defend against the Toreador, but you can't attack one with it. For example: If I'm on foot, I can't attack the Toreador. It can just run from me and go attack others. If I'm on a Deluxo or Scramjet, I can attack the Toreador, but I can't really defend against it. The Omnis can both Attack and defend, hence it's why It's a Oppressive counter and IMO the best there is FL Ruiner 2k can't attack a Toreador because it can't keep up with one. It can defend and will absolutely destroy a Toreador in a fight. So It's just like the Khanjali Also, there's a lot more than 2 vehicles in the game without an Icon. The Omnis is one of them ;)

And honestly, I use the Scramjet all the time. It has a pretty big Icon that not only shows I'm in a Scramjet, it also shows the direction I'm facing. It's a matter of getting good with your vehicle. Also the Scramjet has the same missiles as the Vigilante + Is more mobile

@@DemonLordGamingAC0 I'm just simply saying that the icon doesn't need to be changed is my point

I understand your point and I disagree, but that's ok!

@@DemonLordGamingAC0 That's fine everyone has their opinions but I'm not trying to get rock star any more ideas here and you gotta understand it from my point of view because if someone always knows what vehicle you have then you're not gonna have the ability of surprise. You need to have the upper hand If they don't know what your driving

Good luck!

@@DemonLordGamingAC0 thx bro

It is avaliable to buy, and yes, it's Imani Tech

Nesse vídeo vc aprende ;)

How do you hit a toreador with a starling?

not really, limited missiles, slower underwater and blows up in 1 missile

@@Reece1980 doesn't blow up in one missile, it can take 6 missiles (I think). Plus, it has plenty of missiles for one battle. If the Toreador hits you with some missiles and you manage to win, you will have to repair your Stromberg anyways, therefore the missile capacity is not that relevant

It's basically a mirror match. But The Stromberg doesn't have boost, has 30 missiles, and it has a map icon.

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@@DemonLordGamingAC0 appreciate this man

Anytime

Well you can still kill the driver with the Omnis without problem. How wouldn't that be a point?

I have a video that shows how you can bait Nightsharks and other armored cars that try to run you over

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-w3RWBybz9Es.html Here's the video.

On top of the missile they get to their feet lol

@@DemonLordGamingAC0 lmao I think you don't have the correct definition of "Griefers". 💀

What would the correct definition be?

@@DemonLordGamingAC0 A player who loves to ruin people's experience to have fun.

@@DemonLordGamingAC0 So basically the griefers are the ones who are shooting missiles on poor players' feet lmao.

That's a good one

The bad is that the Toreador kills the Kosatka easy if it wants to

@@DemonLordGamingAC0 wait really? I geuss i was just lucky nobody wanted to destroy mine or feel like destroying it

@@gikkus_gungus Yeah you're lucky. The Toreador can just go underwater and wreck the Kosatka. If you can't destroy it with the missile before it goes underwater you better fast travel and stay underwater

Only in Fully loaded mission, it can't catch a Toreador, has a gigantic minimap icon

@@DemonLordGamingAC0 yeah I didn’t think about that

​@@DemonLordGamingAC0 normal one can too, just hope over the missiles, but you gotta wear it down first. Unlikely but possible

@@stoner63reflex65 sorry for the late reply, but "doable" doesn't make it a counter. A counter by definition is something that can be done easily to win a fight. For example: If I say I can easily kill explosive sniper users in a jet, it doesn't mean that a jet counters a sniper user. We all know it's quite the opposite way around. So for something to be considered a counter, it needs to be pretty much a guarantee that you'll not lose against what you're countering, no matter your skill. If you can kill Toreadors with a normal Ruiner 2000, that is impressive. But you need to hit 6 missiles against 1. So by definition that isn't countering. The Omnis I brought in the video has a very low chance of being hit by the Toreador, while also being extremely tanky. While it can also target the driver directly. That makes it EXTREMELY biased towards the Omnis, hence why it was the hardest counter at the time

It doesn't make it a counter. I used to kill MK2s with the Scramjet all the time, it wasn't a counter

I guess you didn't watch the video

​@@DemonLordGamingAC0 did right after commenting

Funny that now, some time later, you already know it. But back when I made this video, these cars were new :)

I love the MK2 nerf 🥰 Also I recommend you watch this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--8yIP-St55g.html

@@DemonLordGamingAC0 nice vid but I have done my research I've watched multiple vids and this is prob my fav ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-b9etPwjkeUg.html

@@DemonLordGamingAC0 I like this one to but it's kinda boring fr frru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XJJm1a9LwjY.html

Actually it didn't, it had the same missiles that the stromberg and toreador had 😉 ruiner missiles are also on the vigilante deluxo and scramjet