BTW, Rich, thanks for not over-doing it with loud obnoxious music. I used to work on cars for a living, and cars were my first love. My neighbor, two blocks away, had a Charger Daytona, that stayed in the garage. I was about ten years old and damn near creamed myself when he had his garage door open, and I could look at it. He finally got tired of me standing in his driveway lookin at it, one day, when I was on the way home from school, and he says, "Do you think your mom would mind if you went for a ride in it" ? I was like, I don't know..... He said go home and ask her if you can go for a ride in Mr.Meyer's Charger with him. He says I haven't drivin it in a couple weeks. I need to take it out. I thought I'd died and gone to heaven. I'm even pretty sure I knew more about the engine in his car than he did. It had a 440 magnum, under the hood. Four speed with the pistol handled shifter. Dana 60 rearend.
As a longtime owner of a '66 GTO, I can attest to just how scary they are to drive with stock suspension in modern traffic. Good call on upgrades. As for the alignment, 1/4" of toe angle seems a bit excessive to me, as most target around 1/8". Also, consider getting a pair of updated steering arm knuckles that correct the terrible GM bump steer. Global West makes a nice kit. I know the GTO project is winding down, but I'd love to see more videos of it. Road trip vids would be great!
He measured from front of wheel to front of other wheel, so in effect that accounts for toe in of both sides. Divide by 2 to get the individual wheel's toe in. I may be wrong.
@@alexveldhuis6004 way more to factor in, it needs to be at ride height with suspension relaxed (roll forward and backwards), then you'll never get a tape measure up to centerline on both front and rear of the wheel. further that by possibly bent rims, and tires with runout. you can only get so close with tape measure alignment and guesstimates, it takes lots of practice, test drives and re-tweaking. that said, I have managed to replace majority of suspension and steering parts, while getting them aligned within the machine specs to have been a waste of money! yes, I've spent nearly four hours tweaking alignment before and as a garage or shop, that's just not feasible! just get it close and have it aligned by nearby shop if you don't have a rack.
How can a 1/4 inch be excessive if 1/8 is goal? It’s a 1/16 each side that difference can be in a tire or a rim or air pressure or anything I love when people say those things ,,,lol that’s excessive lol it should be 1/64 smaller ,,hacker ....lol
@@666pumpkinlord For every 1/16" of toe angle, each tire will scrub almost seven feet sideways for every mile driven. That means that the front tires will scrub over a quarter-mile sideways during every 100 miles of driving. Get bent with your stupid personal attacks and pretending like you know anything.
I've said it before, but I'm still really impressed with the story-telling of your videos I watch a lot of fabrication / building videos, you do a great job with the editing to tell a well paced story IMHO
Having Aaron shoot the suspension install makes this so much better. If Rich could only use a tripod and a fixed camera the details would be lost. The cameraman can show what's happening so much better. There's just enough detail to get the gist of what is entailed without it being boring or having to watch a fixed shot speeded up montage. Great work. The Goat looks and sounds amazing and now has the Grand Touring chops to act the part. What a project! Can't wait to see the MercLS wagon videos. I know they're coming.
@@DEBOSSGARAGE you need a four post lift with a center jack as a sponsor ! i bet that roll cart thank you later ! lol i like your content and ur funny guy. i know times are getting tough but can you make more videos like back in the day ?
If you don't chances are that you will be the next poor bastard that gets to curse it saying "why is there no anti seize on this"? Also if your anywhere in Canada.
In the mid 60s a friend was drag racing a 4 bolt main 396 Chevelle. He was having severe "directional control" problems after launch. The fix back then was to drive nails in to all the rear suspension rubber bushing to stiffen things up. It worked.
That grease also goes between the Swarbrick and the bushings. That's where the squeaking comes from. It's not a bad idea to lightly coat the outside of the bushings also, but more importantly the inner holes between the bushings and swaybar itself.
Love your videos. The variety is great! STOP using a rag (even microfibre) to dust off the GTO. You are damaging your paint. Go buy a "California Car Duster", the hype/rumours/secret tricks are true. I have been using a California Car Duster for over 30 years on my 67 GTX and if someone tells you "the dirtier the California Car Duster gets, the better it works", ya, that's true too. $30 at Canadian Tire, worth every penny.
Rich, Pontiac REALLY had the "styling bulge", in the 60's, with their A-body cars. They weren't always the performance kings of the G.M. A-body line-up, but they are beautiful cars. My dad bought a brand new 1967 Catalina, in the fall of 1967, from Emerson Pontiac, in, Pekin , Illinois. I was just seven years old, and can still remember going in the show room with him. I was a car guy, even back then. I can remember vividly, they had a beautiful decked out 1968 Firebird on the show room floor. It was British racing green, had a hood tachometer, was a convertible. It had the wood grain steering wheel, like your goat. They had a Lemans also. Two door, decked out, also Holy cow, I could have spent the whole day, looking at the cars. You've got a great classic machine there.
I had bought a 79 dodge power wagon, lifted with big tires, that the previous owner decided didn’t need the sway bar anymore……it only took one short drive to scare the shneikies out of me and convince me to reinstall the sway bar. It was straight up scary and undriveable without it.
Rich, might want to look into taller ball joints for the front. They will correct the camber curve and get rid of bump steer from the added caster. Did basically the same thing to my 64 and love driving it. Also you need to grease the sway bar bushings where they touch the bar, that's where they rotate.
you can weld some wire to nuts or washers to get them into the frame, then just cut the wire off. if you use heavy wire or small round bar it will keep them from rotating too..
Love the goat, my dad had a 67 lemans and i have owned my 69 gto for 29 years, has a 70 455. In the process of installing qa1 coilovers and umi tubular control arms with taller joints. Also considering swapping to a set of edelbrock or kre heads as well. Such a sharp goat, keep up the great work!
Just recently came across your channel on your crossover Bronco vid with VGG. Love your GTO bud! So nice to find a Canucklehead doing this type of content. Cheers from Saskatoon!
Love your videos Rich as your always smiling and having fun making them. Would really like an update on the c10 if that's possible as that thing is an absolute masterpiece. Thanks from Australia
There is a reason for all of those zerk fittings…with the polyurethane bushings they have to be greased constantly to keep the squeak “monster” quiet. But I do love the driving feel of poly bushings.
Brings back memories, my late brother had a 1969 GTO (orange Judge) with a hood tack, ram air hood induction, hurst shifter, he bought it used in the late '70s.
I never really thought about the cupholder thing in old muscle cars, but now that I have thought about and did a little googling I think I have a fairly logical answer. The first drive thru opened at McDonalds in 1975. So anytime prior to that there wasn't really a "need" for cupholders because we didn't even really have places to get drinks on the go. And even for those first 5-10 years from 75-85 it probably took a while before drive-thru's became common all across the country to the point where people started needing cupholders. I bet if someone dug into the statistics with business openings like Burger King and Checkers and other fast food places compared alongside design engineers for the major car companies implementing certain features like cupholders, they might find some interesting crossover.
Spot on. Most things have good reasons or well some reason for happening. Just like how the mid 70s turned anything muscle into garbage. IMO that is. Restricted to hell not working worth anything. Cupholders are beyond a basic at this point lol. That being said, power winddows ect is still an option on like work work trucks.
The reason that most cars and trucks had 0 degrees caster at that time was because a lot of the cars and trucks still had manual steering gears in a lot of them. They put it a 0 degrees to reduce the steering effort on those manual steering vehicles during parking, because increased caster increased steering effort. Increasing the caster on most vehicles will tend to make them drive straight at high speed, with more dramatic return to center and reduced tendency to follow road ruts. It also tends to make them drive straight even with all the suspension wear components completely worn out. This is why most aftermarket sport suspension systems feature increased caster over stock when using their parts.
Rich, I hate to inform you on your alignment Theory but a shopping cart is actually positive caster. The main principal of Caster is, point of contact follows point of load. On a shopping cart if you draw a line straight down from the swivel on the caster that is the point of load and the point of contact is the bottom of the wheel following behind that on the tile of your local Walmart Supercenter.
I miss my 67 GTO sports coup red on red one of 609 built.mild built 400,th400, 373 rear. turned 11.360 in the Qtr. all original interior. motor and trans was stolen by a shop that i hired to put in my 77 Skybird Esprit (firebird). he left town....
That is a the best resto mod on youtube. Anyone can drive it and it looks fabulous. Just needs sat nav built in and you can call it new car in old clothes.
Just got done seeing you and Vice Grip Garage, problems with a Ford story of our lives, so had to check up on your newest video, I really enjoy watching your guy’s videos. 👍
I had one back in the day and it was the best handling car I ever had (to that point). Back then you didn't know any better because of what you were comparing it to. But now my Honda Accord feels like a Ferrari by comparison.
A set of those gauges would look great in my 67 LeMans. I had a 66 LeMans first, it had A Two speed power glide and 326 cube engine. One shift at around 60mph if you pushed on the pedal hard.
You need cup holders! Where are you going to keep your timmies? for the bushing puller If you don't have a welder then you can get some galvanized pipe with a pipe cap and drill a hole in it. Do the same thing. I've done it with some BMW E30 bushings before.
umm, the supplied grease goes between the bushing and the sway bar itself. that's where the movement occurs with any suspension travel. the outside of bushings and bracket should see no movement at all. (in theory)
Hey Rich, great job and for the advice. I have a 1970 AMX/Javelin that needs that kit. Any thoughts on differences between aluminum anti-seize and the copper? I used the copper on everything. Thanks for bringing us along brother??
As much as I love the original look and finish of this build, it's already a restomod and I sure wish you would look into a shoulder belt upgrade for the front passengers. Won't keep the steering wheel from caving your chest like the neighbor girl's BF who died in a project 60-something Chevy back when I was in high school, but even in a low-speed impact it would definitely save a face or two from becoming welded to the wheel and dash.
Agreed, and these cars already have a mount for shoulder belts in the roof structure. All you gotta do is find it underneath the headliner and install the belt.
🤣🤣 I have a 64 Malibu with original suspension and brakes. We don't get it out very often due to the fact that I need to put massive amounts of money into the chassis to make it fun to drive. Love the gto
Had chance to buy one of these in 1984 but my dad said no (I was 16). Montego Cream color, 60K miles very good condition for $4,300. Damn that hurt, hurts more now.
I did not like the qa1 handling package on my chevelle and sold the crap and went a different route. I did go with the unisteer rack and pinion kit along with the umi suspension and it was a much better car. The qa1 kit is essentially tubular stock geometry arms that look pretty.
When you're setting up your ride height you should do it on weight scales if you have the set, of course, it's not good to have 200 lbs or more diagonally across the right front to the left rear, but you will not notice it unless you scale the car while adjusting the ride height!
what a beautifull gto! rich can build the best of the best! this man knows his stuff! and what a choice of cars! 👌 all the respect in the world for this man! a real pro! 👍
Are you taking the GTO to any cruise nights around Niagara? Some have started up again, and there is a new one at Merrittville Speedway on Monday nights thats just starting to get popular. They got a new Ice cream stand and oven fired pizza shop on site which makes for a fun family cruise on an otherwise quiet evening.
17:55 If the Transmission angle is negative 2 degrees. The diff needs to be positive 2 degrees if that was not clear. Like Rich said. They need to offset each other. 2 degrees is used only as an example. It could be any amount. How does one find that out? A Protractor. Magnetic is a plus but not a must.
I was told if you put poly bushings in the rear end you need to do motor and trans mounts too otherwise they’d get chewed up by the difference in resistance
Rich!! Grrrr! You didn't show us how the GTO handles around corners!! I bet you could take corners twice as fast as before except for the fact that you'd be sliding off those "bucket seats"! LOL! 8-))
Enjoy your videos cause you don't have garbage gangster crap music playing in the back ground, which makes it refreshing from the start. man those upper Trailing arms bushings and lowers were screwed af .. no wonder you had to replace them that stock suspension must've been so bloody sloppy and a nightmare while driving down the road at high speeds. " its not as luxurious as my van" yeah, but its one hell've a lot cool ler thats for dern sure.
