WP, I want you to imagine a grown man in his house, with his wife, pick up his phone as he heads upstairs to play Path of Exile. As he touches the phone, the screen lights up and says "Guild Wars 2 Mysteries: The Deep Sea Dragon". What unfolds is two minutes of shrieking, the man telling his wife: "This is what I fall asleep to! This is what I listened to every day during my jaw surgery! This is my favorite GW2 series!!" I am so unbelievably happy to see another one of these after so long. Thanks, WP, really looking forward to watching this.
What kind of jaw surgery was it? I had some done myself where they basically break your jaw and shift the bone around the fix your bite. That liquid diet recovery was...eh it was ok I guess...lots of milkshakes, haha
@@ItIsMeRJ Same here! They had to expand my upper jaw and sort of shrink and "retract" my lower jaw a bit because it was larger than the upper. Maybe I'm weird but I just binged all of Judas Priests' albums while sitting around on hydrocodone haha.
@@perisemiotics3204 Don't worry about the surgery! I recovered very quick so that in a week I didn't feel pain, it just feels a bit stiff mostly as it starts healing. You'll look goofy for a few months but once it heals your confidence goes up big time. If you ever consider the surgery again, it's no big deal! I really didn't have much pain at all, just mostly discomfort and stiffness and had to eat non-solid food for something like 6 weeks (which goes by super fast if you just eat milk shakes, protein shakes, soup, etc.)
Great to see this series come back. I’m surprised, however, that you didn’t mention what happened at the end of season 4 when we defeat Kralk. As he died, he said ”Mother...” and soon after, we hear the sound of waves breaking. The developers explicitly called this out during an episode of Guild Chat and teased us by saying “If you listen to what’s happening there aurally, maybe you’ll find some clues.” The deep sea dragon may turn out to be the mother of all dragons.
I'd always assumed the image at 10:50 was of Kralkatorrik; possibly because of the purple colour palette, but more-so due to the significance of Kralk in Glint's life, legacy, and Path of Fire in general. Love the format, awesome intro, liked favorited subscibred & belled, keep it up!
You mentioned that it was mentioned in LWS2 that the dragon starts with a "S" and that they might change it if they feel like it. I doubt it though, because Taimi mentioned in LWS3 again that the dragon starts with an "S" while being in the dragon lab of Rata Novus. So I'm pretty sure that they stick with it.
in season 3 in the episode with taimi's game she mentions the deep sea dragon saying "What was the last one's name...started with an S-" before being cut off by rytlock and the PC
I believe she also said something like "It's on the tip of my tongue..." between where you closed your quotations and the interruption from Rytlock and the PC, which implies that Taimi knows its name from the database of Rata Novus or another source of hers.
On the name of the Deep Sea Dragon, they also had that little bit of dialogue with Taimi later in the Living World... she says "Nothing on Kralkatorrik, and ditto for... Oh, what's its name? Brain malfunction. Starts with an s...?"
You know it doesn't have to be this way. Yes, Kuunavang, it does, we need to be hyped about End Of Dragons ! Jokes aside, so nice to see this format coming back after 2 years !
WP idea for a daily/ floor topic. What is the aesthetic nature of the DSD territory? I started thinking about this the other day with the teaser art episode and the bubbles in the scenes. So far all the dragons territory are inhospitable and often menacing. What if in an effort to subvert expectations this dragons territory seems rather idyllic? Elysian fields with whimsical bubbles floating thru them. Whether or not they are a true ally as you think would be cool encountering an inviting and pleasant dragon domain would definitely throw our characters and cast off, especially on the heels of jormag's attempts to seem/be friendly. While maybe not connected to lyssa directly the dev's choice to give her water could serve to connect water and illusion in the players minds. So if a true ally the DSD presents a paradise and horrors to enemies of them and their allies. If really a big bad the illusions could serve as an almost dreamlike realm to lure you into the tentacles and teeth that will end you.
I can't stop thinking about the relation between zhaitan and Steve. Could it be possible that the rise of Orr out of the sea would irritate Steve because he looses magic area of his domain? Also this could be a perfect opportunity for an arc in the story that connects the original story to the new expansions. Well. At least that's just a thought I guess :D
@@AzureRoxe I think he meant that zhaitan, who supposedly awoke after the DSD, rose Orr from bottom of the ocean(DSD domain) and all the magical artifacts he would then munch on with it. Thereby almost swiping the artifacts from the DSD
I just made a comment about something similar. Its funny poeple talk about Cthulu and lovecraftian horrors when Zhaitan fits this description more than ever (especially his appearance changing since intiial gw2 trailer). Also gets me thinking based on responses to your comment - What about the "Blue Orb" that was used in repel Zhaitans forces. Whats the story behind this orb. Blue...being the domain the inquest use for Steves minions. Would also be fun with Zhaitans cut off tail in the priory did something interesting with the nearby jade slab Hmmm
It's really interesting seeing this video after EOD... that sentence from the article in 2007 is still as fascinating after as it was before, because... it wasn't the dragon?? Other people who are in the same boat as me (desperately excited for the DSD open ocean, tentacled horrors expansion) may be disappointed in Soo-Won but I'm not. That's a cool story on its own, AND it hasn't ruined what we expected from the DSD because of the NPCs that talk about what we thought was the dragon actually lines up with her *leaving* the deep ocean. I do kinda hate more waiting and I'm afraid they'll never actually tackle the story (here's hoping that sentence ages poorly!), but honestly learning this creature in the deep ISN'T the dragon, and we know even LESS about it than before since our only theory is out the window REALLY fits the vibe of incomprehensible lovecrafitan threat so well. We literally have no clue whatsoever what the thing actually is, and I can't wait to find out
I really love the idea that DSD will have only champions that are really strong instead of having a lot of little ones (something in the opposite of Mordremoth), that would be nice explanation to why we haven't seen any of them.
This format is really nice, covered a lot of the material in a short time. Felt like a video I'd be able to watch up-front rather than run in the background like I might for some of your 40 minute videos.
These vignettes are always exceptional. I usually send them out to at least five or six people through one mode or another. We particularly enjoy your videos when you undertake more of a storytelling style because it puts us in the mindset to actually learn something new, or, perhaps, to simply think about an old thing in a new way.. Thanks a bunch.
This really is the big one. Not just in how much of the gw2 lore and story has been building and converging on this, but literally because this is a dragon that could grow to an incomprehensible size and whose element covers most of Tyria and is necessary for life. But on a personal level, my fear of deep open water and all the eldritch horrors it could hide makes the dsd the most important threat. I hope aNet takes some cues from Subnautica.
Hey WP! I'm really happy to see you doing these lore mystery videos again. The one mystery that's always been poking the back of my brain is the one introduced in season 4, A Star to Guide Us, in Jahai Bluffs, the displaced zones - specifically the "???"/"Unknown Cavern" area. "It features a small portion of another world, with highly hallucinogenic mushrooms." with "affected by low gravity". Where in the world (well, universe) is this location from? and what could it mean in terms of our understanding when it comes to Tyria and the universe it's in?
I'll be honest, I am playing Star Trek Online right as I listen to this, and as soon as you said DSD my brain went 'Deep Space Dragon" lol man I've missed this series!
LOVE this poping up on my notifications today. I'm a big fan of GW lore and have followed all the old mystery videos. BIG thumbs up! Looking forward to more. Love your work WP
omg I've been excited for this for so long. I've only had my youtube account for 3 years now, but I've been watching your channel for over 8 years, right around when gw2 released and I've even watched a fair portion of your gw1 videos. Love your channel, WP!
What if the DSD is good or neutral? Perhaps the Largos are the villains here. We know they're obsessed with hunting powerful prey - what conquest would be more powerful than an Elder Dragon? Perhaps all of the "evil" things we've heard of the DSD is just Largos propaganda, and the aquatic races being pushed out were just a repercussion of the dragon defending itself from Largos assault.
Yeah this is what I was thinking, what if the one speaking to Kuunavang is DSD? "They need me." - We definitely need water to survive, so technically, we need DSD.
@@shinigamiFtw what if that sentence "They need me." is the Deep Sea Dragon saying that her remaining children (Jormag & Primordis) need her to save them from the rest of the races on Tyria (Us) trying to exterminate them? That could fit all the signs & hints we have been shown so far.
@@traveling.down.the.road56 Few problems with that idea: 1.) Children? They're all equals and if Jormag is to be believed, siblings and nothing more. (For the record, Jormag probably is as unreliable of a narrator as ever) 2.) It's treated as a good thing that we off'ed the dragons and was only treated as a bad thing during the time that Aurene was young, but now that she can contain and redistribute the magic, it's perfectly fine. Furthermore, she didn't even get most of the magic from Primordus and Jormag, it went "somewhere else"
I loved this video. So much. The production value (that INTRO) and the content was sublime. I am so curious about Bubbles. I need to know more! I so hope that you produce more. ❤
Hi WP, I have been following you for years on YT now. The quality of your content and dedication to this GW universe has been outstanding - ArenaNet community management should really strengthen cooperation with amazing storytellers like you to build more sponsored Lore videos which bring to light the depth of this game and its universe - I am so happy to see Guild Wars 2 Mysteries series ❤️ - we need more of such content ! Big, big thank you WP🙏
My guess is that they never gave us its name because it's something clearly Canthan and they didn't want to spoil the fact that it's based in that region of the world.
Not to sound like a jerk to everyone else but A LOT of these other comments I read, were about things I've either thought about or make no sense. This though, isn't either of those things and is actually a really good point imo. That'd be a damn good reason to obscure the name.
WP you on script, or with this tone you have adopted for this video was amazing. the shorter nature is really nice, the concise nature is great. your ramblings are fun but this felt more polished in a way. im excited for the return.
Yess I love this series!! Unexplained questions and theories in fantasy properties may well be my favorite thing in all the world, I love thinking about these mysteries and trying to solve them, hoping one day we get answers to that which is mysterious and unknown. And in GW2 the DSD is one of my favorite concepts/mysteries that I desperately hope to see addressed one day in great detail. I'd always hoped for the deep sea expansion with cthulu-like tentacled horrors serving this unfathomably horrific beast deep deep below the waves in the darkest shadows of the world. Looks like they're merging the DSD plot with Cantha (which already had enough story content to make an expansion for itself free of elder dragons), which is also very exciting!
I always figured that purple dragon you paused on was Kralkatorrik -- had a somewhat triangular face with a large chin, same color eyes and mouth, etc. And in the context of the cut scene the top of the pyramid has a prismatic effect when we zoom out of it. The cut scene you used -- I think I found the full version over on Kyosika's channel. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4ETJBqvjxts.html Is the deep sea dragon you're talking about the one at the 1:00 mark? In any event -- good watch. Glad to see this type of stuff being discussed again.
Maaan, I gotta tell you, I usually watch your videos when I get to doing the dishes in the evening, with my wireless headphones on and the phone on the windowsill. This time, I popped on the video as usual, saw that amazing intro and immediately turned the video off and went "Oh no, this is not a casual listen sort of video, this is a sit-down and give you my full attention sort of video". I'll be back in 30 minutes
Great and nesseccery video imo, peeps need to be caught up on all the little hints we've had over the years and MAN is it going to be great to finally be getting some answers about the DSD - I'm super hyped on the Expac but even more so with all the Daily videos and discussion.
I absolutely loved your first series for GW2 mysteries and I’m so happy to hear you want to start it back up! Looking forward to all that you will share! :D
It’s great to see this series back, one of my favorite series that made me subscribe in the first place! Love the intro with the cinematics from living world and the iconic soundtrack! Also great topic, the DSD is one of the most fascinating guild wars 2 mysteries established since the game’s release, can’t wait to see how they portray it in game.
Haven't played in like a year but this instantly drew my attention! Absolutely do some mini mysteries! I'm sure there's some stuff in dungeons or LS1 that could warrant more looking into.
I enjoy anything delving into videogame lore/mysteries. I try and be one of those guys who reads all the in-game books and npc dialogue but I only knew a couple of these things, it's always fun stuff.
OMFG I MISSED THESE VIDEOS!! I just wished they were longer because I never get enough of your lore vids😍😍 #10yearsWPfan ps. (happy Anet finally sponsers your talent they should hire you to fact check all their lore)
Cool video. I am hoping the DSD is going be more like a sea serpent to differentiate it from any of the other elder dragon designs, so an S name would suit that well.
WP, I love your gw2 mysteries series. Please keep making more. Especially with a theoretical wave of new players coming in to join our community later this year
Ok. That was an AWESOME video :3 End of Dragons daily, I do watch daily but more as my daily dose of what I would call "Time for WP's daily rambling !" But this video ! Was another level, and in a great way. Fluid, clear, easy to follow and entertaining, both to hear AND to watch ! :3 Really looking forward for more of those now WP ! Great job ! :3
This is why I became hooked to this channel in the first place ! Geeking about the depth of By the way, is there a possibility that the deep sea dragon is not one entity but two ? Kunaavang and something else ? Like two sides of the same power (alternating with who is "in charge" maybe ?). Looking at the expension logo and the two ying-yang dragons I can't help but think about this possibility.
Great video woods, especially that intro was really well made. Did you make it yourself or did you hire someone like Noxxi for it? Everything in the video itself was really well thought out, although I disagree with you on that the dragon in glint's PoF vision being the DSD. For I believe that dragon is instead just Kralkatorik because of its skin appearing similar in texture to that of the branded and its teeth being jagged and rocky.
The general purple theming of the picture (though i guess they went into the blue triangle) made me think Kralk too. It drawing attention to this because he was our next target
Since most of the Elder's names come from real world mythology I started flipping through sea themed deities and monsters with a focus on the letter S and I am placing my money on Salacia, who was the female divinity of the sea, worshiped as the goddess of salt water who presided over the depths of the ocean and had Neptune as a consort. Also Sharks are Selachians, which get their name from her, so yeah, that's my 2 cents.
The Jade Maw might be a champion of this dragon. I am assuming the Jade Maw is Zhu Hanuku, but that isn't confirmed as yet. The lesser kraken spawn might be related to the Jade Maw and I think it is of note that the kraken spawn don't leave behind corpses. A similar trait to the nightmare tentacle horrors present in the underworld.
Crazy thought. Mordremoth turned out to be the maguuma jungle itself right? What if the deep sea dragon is the oceans itself. "Spinning into tentacle horrors" could be water sprouts or whirlpools
I want a water expansion and revamp so bad! Yes!! We welcome deep sea dragon!! and I didn't notice that the dragon that appears in the POF was DSD, I assumed it was kralkatorric
7:41 'it might also suggest that the creatures spawned by the DSD are of a gargantuan size' well, that should make it considerably easier for the rest of us non-Inquest types to get a look at it somehow. so the DSD minions value their privacy and are quite sneaky?^^
I always wondered if Steve (DSD) and Kralkartorrik are/were counterparts to each other, similar to the other elder dragons, like Zhaitan and Mordremoth, as shown in LS 3 with the grubs and more recently with the "twins" Primordus and Jormag. If so I wonder if Aurene inherits that trait, or if the Mother comment by Kralkartorrik with the wave sound hints at a different relationship between Kralkartorrik and Steve.
During your EoD dailies, theres a lot of chat about Norn appearing in Cantha. Im more wondering the Asura involvement will be. Considering you mention the Inquest capturing a beast and chatter in the blue zone, perhaps we can tie the inquest in Cantha here?
Great video, I wasn’t even aware that the PoF cutscene showed the deep sea dragon, I will have to replay that part to see what the context and hints are.
after you beat moldremoth in hot if you speak with rithlock he say something around " 2 elderdragons gone 4 more to go" implaying that they know about de deep sea dragon
Its one of those widely known things but no ones really had evidence. Heck Taimi makes a comment about "what is the dragons name again, S ... something" (paraphrasing)
the way i interpreted the Saga trailer wasn't that DSD was killing the krait. The norn had been killing the krait, and the DSD could have been defending the krait by razing the ship
WP, you of all people should have known the truth about the Deep Sea Dragon. You have played Guild Wars 2 for so long, scoured the lore and even became part of it at some points and still youu forgot the immense source of details about the plight against the Deep Sea Dragon, in fact, you have fought it before several times. It's name starts with an S, and it rules the ocean and spawns monsters from within... it is also the dragon of memory and summoning, it's name is Sin!
