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GUILLIMAN REVEALS THE AELDARI! IS HE PLAYING A DANGEROUS GAME? 

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Hey all Rho here! Today we discuss Roboute Guilliman and his co-operation with the Aeldari! Why did he reveal it to his commanders when it's also a secret? And will it come back to haunt him?
General Spoiler Warning to begin as we will be discussing events from across the Warhammer 40,000 universe. As well as specifically events from the Dawn of Fire series novel "The Gate of Bones" by Andy Clark. As always I really recommend you read the stories for yourself first without spoilers! As that's the best way to enjoy the lore for yourself!
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@ditmarvanbelle1061
@ditmarvanbelle1061 2 года назад
Guilliman : introduces aeldari allies Cawl : quickly hides his necron allies by folding the tesseract onto itself Imperial Guard wielding suspiciously potent laspulse rifle with attached railbayonet : approves of these new arrangements, in the name of the greater good.
@Matihood1
@Matihood1 2 года назад
What's a laspulse rifle? Something "borrowed" from the Tau?
@Synthonym
@Synthonym 2 года назад
@@Matihood1 It's like a lasrifle, but better
@ditmarvanbelle1061
@ditmarvanbelle1061 2 года назад
@@Matihood1 Yah- some made-up contraption that would not hold up as 100% terran under scrutiny ^_^
@OEFarredondo
@OEFarredondo 2 года назад
Lol
@jrr7031
@jrr7031 2 года назад
Im so so sooo mad Imperial guards are such shit. Really, really good weapons vs humans.....sucks against everything, NO *LITERALLY * everything else, while not set on "high".
@AbstractDigitalDNB
@AbstractDigitalDNB 2 года назад
Papa smurf is the only person in the imperium with any sense ! The only way to stop the rotting imperium is by building alliances
@drgonzo305
@drgonzo305 2 года назад
if history has taught us anything it's you can't trust eldar, it might start out nice and civil but one day your gonna come home and find some devious eldar beating your cat off with sandpaper in front of the entire population of his applauding and cheering craft world.
@AbstractDigitalDNB
@AbstractDigitalDNB 2 года назад
@@drgonzo305 but they have more than enough problems with Slaanesh and are not a threat to the might of the imperium and there technology is superior and it’s only a certain sect of the race who I think can be trusted but sure be careful as he seems to be doing
@briantarigan7685
@briantarigan7685 2 года назад
Gulliman is right tho, if Imperium wants, they can ruined Aeldari, if a few Valhallan Regiments can fight Aeldari forces from craft world Biel-tan to a stalemate, if even Imperium itself almost manage to destroy an Aeldari Craftworld with only sector wide mustering( only saved when chad prince Uriel came and talk to imperial forces that the raid against imperial shipments are being conducted by dark aeldar and not them) Than The Imperium are indeed capable to ruin Aeldari races and their remaining craftworlds in real space ( aside from dark eldar in commoragh)
@mduckernz
@mduckernz 2 года назад
@@drgonzo305 You can say exactly the same but with fire for the Ecclesiarchy. All the factions are fucked up in some way lol
@zensempai7371
@zensempai7371 Год назад
HERESY ! You have been corrupted by the Xenos and their pointy ears and dexterous busy fingers !
@tomsimpkins1211
@tomsimpkins1211 2 года назад
Gilliman picks up the diplomat by the back of her shirt, and wiggles her at the assembled. "No shooty shoot, stab jabby, or such actions. Good xeno, snu snu, not bad xeno." And the meeting is over.
@UnRu1eD
@UnRu1eD 2 года назад
Orkz would agreed with this.
@ryansauchuk7290
@ryansauchuk7290 2 года назад
He just has to say that he walked into the Throne room surrounded by Custodes talked with his father and is currently using the Emperors sword. Just tell them that it's all part of the Emperors plan and if they don't believe him they can go to the Emperor themselves.
@justiron2999
@justiron2999 2 года назад
That could cause a lot of different problems because then every dickhead who thinks that they're important enough would want a personal one on one with big E.
@andrewpandrew7786
@andrewpandrew7786 2 года назад
Lmao the best part is if they did go to Big E they’d just fucking incinerate from his psychic light.
@12gagebastis
@12gagebastis 2 года назад
laughs in inquisition and ecclesiarchy
@zaberfang
@zaberfang 2 года назад
To be fair, RG is basically doing where the Emperor failed, admit that he can't win the fight against chaos alone and need help. Keeping secrets like the Emperor did from everyone would be the ruin of the organization. If you read one of the stories where the Emperor interacted with Magnus, he stated that he hoped that the primarchs would succeed where he failed and be a better person than he was.
@jakelucid9650
@jakelucid9650 Год назад
indeed, the secrets and lies are what brought magnus low.
@skywillfindyou
@skywillfindyou 7 месяцев назад
Wrong. Emepror wasn't wrong. He was pretty close to win and is now.
@muhammadedwards8425
@muhammadedwards8425 5 дней назад
​@@jakelucid9650The two best psykers keeping psyker training and knowledge to themselves and leaving magnus alone with his great power to figure it out on his own. He could feel chaos every second of his life, but the emp and malc just let his curiosity fester without explaining the full picture. Honestly, I'm surprised he lasted that long
@muhammadedwards8425
@muhammadedwards8425 5 дней назад
​@@skywillfindyouHe was very wrong on many things. The Khan even contemplated that Horus would have been a better emperor(this was before erebus and malcador Fd him up)
@maxstr
@maxstr 2 года назад
Custodes are in a weird position. Guilliman is an extension of the Emperor and the closest thing they have to the actual Emperor after 10K years of guarding a corpse. But he's also a Primarch, the same group that almost destroyed everything the Emperor created.
@aguspuig6615
@aguspuig6615 2 года назад
i think the custodes are totally raedy to fight guilliman if they see it as necessary, i dont think they percieve him as an extension of the emperor, hes part of humanity so he is an ally but they serve only the emperor and would not hesitate to fight annyone else
@maxstr
@maxstr 2 года назад
@@ReconCrusader Yeah except Emps hasn't told them anything for 10,000 years
@jrr7031
@jrr7031 2 года назад
True. Aren't space Marines in general like "shadow banned" from even walking on Terra?
@maxstr
@maxstr 2 года назад
@@jrr7031 That sounds accurate, the only exception being the Gray Knights of course. Not sure if that's the rule anymore though. In Dark Imperium, a bunch of Primaris showed up along with that weird chapter whose name I forget.
@jrr7031
@jrr7031 2 года назад
@@maxstr yea i thought it was cuz all the literal chaos they caused. Of course Grey knights.....I mean youre supposed to be mind wiped if you even see them anyway ....
@chrisfrombeyond4240
@chrisfrombeyond4240 2 года назад
I honestly would love for relations with the Craftworld Aeldari and the Imperium to warm up. I think a non-aggression pact would, if nothing else, help both factions focus their resources towards fighting more existential threats such as the Ruinous Powers, the Nids and the Orks.
@Matihood1
@Matihood1 2 года назад
@Kalldr Killing anyone can strenghten Khorne. It's the worship that really matters.
@SittingOnEdgeman
@SittingOnEdgeman 2 года назад
@Rill It's always possible, but they could just start slipping away again on their craftworlds. And the second they are allowed to properly settle even let's say a dozen Maiden Worlds - a dozen fully populated Maiden Worlds would represent probably a 10-100 fold increase in the total number of eldar, and a similar increase in the amount of eldar industry available. It would be a very asymmetric fight and the Imperium would struggle to win it unless they formed and dedicated several Legiones Astartes (not chapters but legions) to just that one task.
@BC-vg3zf
@BC-vg3zf 2 года назад
A three way non aggression pact. Imperium,eldar and Tau would bring stability across multiple fronts. Yeah the usual back stabbing and such but Guilleman may see the stability of others plus his mind set on governing
@FormerGovernmentHuman
@FormerGovernmentHuman 7 месяцев назад
I don’t think it’s impossible to add the Tau and Necron to that alliance. The silent king seemed pretty reasonable when dante met him
@muhammadedwards8425
@muhammadedwards8425 5 дней назад
​@@BC-vg3zfIf you get the more reasonable necron on board then Warhammer 40k would be more like warhammer fantasy old world where most races are largely at peace
@Sinic818
@Sinic818 2 года назад
Jokes aside, I think Yvraine and the emergence of Ynnead may have had a role in Guilliman wanting to work with the Eldar. I know that Yvraine got many of the different Eldar to join her, even some Dark Eldar. I am sure Vect is watching very closely. I would be interested to what Cawl thought of Guilliman's decision.
@Meuduso1
@Meuduso1 2 года назад
I mean if he's still intent on wiping all Xenos out so that humanity is completely dominant in the galaxy, the whole "All Eldar need to die for Ynnead to come back, who then kills Slaanesh and then revives the Eldar" stuff sounds pretty handy, especially if someone were to cut Ynnead off from reviving the Eldar right after killing Slaanesh. One entire really strong race less to worry about, one Chaos God gone and if the other Eldar gods could be killed, surely so can Ynnead somehow. Then again, I wouldn't see such a plot to be up Guilliman's alley, more like something Alpharius Omegon would do, huh?
@mickclift6352
@mickclift6352 2 года назад
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@mickclift6352 2 года назад
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@mickclift6352 2 года назад
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@mickclift6352 2 года назад
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@systemhalodark
@systemhalodark 2 года назад
Guilliman to the Ecclesiarch: "Did I ever tell you about the razing of Monarchia?"
@user-fv1kh7ku3v
@user-fv1kh7ku3v 2 года назад
And he will die in the same evening, lol
@leandrobravo3319
@leandrobravo3319 2 года назад
To me it feels like a "bouth"-situation. Firstly, he was frozen in time, unchanged and so it feels reasonable to think, that Guilliman wants to return to some of the more open traditions from his own time. On the other hand, I still considder him to much of a tactician, to act on nostalgia alone. Any secret will come out one day. In handing it out on your own terms, it can not blow up in your face, when you have other stuff to deal with. Not to mention, that now the ones closest to him, even under arms, now konw. So they might not like it, they might strongly oppose it, but every passing day, that ends without a desaster, there is one more day, where they were knowingly allies with the Aeldari and nothing bad happened. The protocol is out there, so no one can say "Mimimi, he did not tell, but I found out, so tada!", he can - from that point on - say "I tould you, I did not keep it a secret, so you bringing it up now is just you trying to open up a can of drama!" with the backup of everyone who was told having to admitt, that well, he or she might not have liked it, but it did no harm.
@olenickel6013
@olenickel6013 2 года назад
Didn't Eldrad warn Guilliman of Horus rebellion? There might be some regret over having dismissed him back then, which has made him more receptive to Aeldari warnings and prophecies in the 41st Millenium. And there's certainly been some farseer behind revealing the alliance, who predicted that this led to a desirable future. (Which also leans some more weight to Guilliman subtly warning the Eldar in his speech not to trick him).
@karamelapple8007
@karamelapple8007 2 года назад
Yep, Eldrad and the Emperor are friends
@jodi1761
@jodi1761 2 года назад
No, he warned Fulgrim, not Guilliman.
@jamesespinosa690
@jamesespinosa690 2 года назад
I believe it was Ferrus Manus. During an assault in the desert. Where his sons bionics were being psychically controlled by a conclave of eldar farseers/warlocks. During the fighting Ferrus Manus falls through the sand into a cave network below. Where he has a clash with a greater deamon, wins, and then has an audience with Eldrad. Eldrad warns him of the coming heresy, but Ferus refuses to even consider his claims since he is a filthy alien. And a tricksy Eldar alien no less. This goes to explain why Fulgrim got the jump on him, and then also why he was so incredibly pissed of and suicided himself in the end. He was extra pissed off because he was warned!
@macshadow1150
@macshadow1150 2 года назад
@@jamesespinosa690 Eldrad for sure warned Fulgrim, but didnt belive and instead attacked him. Ironicall is, he was warned twice by Eldrad and Kurz
@jamesespinosa690
@jamesespinosa690 2 года назад
@@macshadow1150 Which book was it?
@kelleren4840
@kelleren4840 2 года назад
I imagine some of his key motivations were as follows: 1) An empire devoid of The Emperor's ideals was his in name only. Restoring The Emperor's virtues to the emperium was essential to saving it from itself --and just as important as saving it from external invaders. 2) By openly showing his collaboration with the Aeldari, with ranking members of multiple emperial factions present, he also makes makes the statement of being confident he can handle whatever dissent they might throw at him. A clear "I'm confident enough in my power to commit 'heresy' in front of you. Are you *really* confident enough in yours to think I am not ready to take you down if you oppose me?" 3) In this gambit, he also creates a sort of prisoners dilemma and a collective action problem. Basically, if all the factions present banded together and retaliated against Gulliman, they could almost certainly take him down. But if only one or two did, Gulliman would easily crush them. Further, even remaining silent/hesitant to "pick a side" would simply make them heretics by association with the rest of the emperium. So it makes perfect sense, actually, that they would be stunned into collective inaction in the immediate term, and in the short term thereafter would be far too afraid of Gulliman crushing them if they moved against him individually, or began trying to form an alliance against him, and in the long run, they would have to accept that their "silence" for so long would be seen as nothing but collaboration to the rest of the empire. So their most likely chance of survival, was by keeping the secret, and if not truly supporting Gulliman, staying as far away from 'opposing' him as possible. Really brilliant move on Gulliman's part.
@Ryanfinder226
@Ryanfinder226 Год назад
Yeah you noted soemthing I’m not seeing a lot say, the fact that aeldari survived this encounter made them all guilty of heresy for collaborating with filthy xenos. To even report this to the Ordo Xenos for official sanction would require these powerful men to say “yes and after the xenos came in I totally sat there and did nothing about it!”
@Synthonym
@Synthonym 2 года назад
If a Primarch (and Lord Commander of the Imperium) rolls up and says "we're working with the Eldar now", the next words out of your mouth better be "yes m'lord"
@TDBoedy
@TDBoedy 2 года назад
I view his reveal as a three-fold strategy. It is to impress upon them the seriousness of the situation, to be up-front with them about how far he feels they have to go and to make them all complicit with him - which heads off at least the most obvious avenues of opposition, also that many of them have had at least neutral dealings with certain Aeldari factions. This adds levels of diplomatic nuance.
@00yiggdrasill00
@00yiggdrasill00 2 года назад
Let's be real. This is very dangerous to both races. They hate each other from very long history, but they need each other to survive. The Imperium needs Eldar knowledge and remaining webway and the Eldar need humanities might and tenacity. This is dangerous but absolutely a move of extreme need. They can't make any moves together when only a handful of people know of the alliance, but now the high command knows and things can happen. Will there be backlash? Yes for everyone involved, Imperium, Eldar and everyone caught in between but it still needs to be done. The trick will be in controlling that backlash and directing it into something useful.
@TGHPykett
@TGHPykett 2 года назад
What would the Lion think? ‘If’ he is the next loyal primarch, could make for some interesting dynamics within the imperium
@jasonparrish8670
@jasonparrish8670 2 года назад
This is after Guilliman met with the Big E, and Custodes were present at the announcement, so I completely agree this is an all-in decision angling to webway tech that could either cap or repair the Terran portal. Aside from the larger strategic objective for protected Imperial webway travel, that one act on Terra could reignite a golden age of the Imperium with a living Emperor at it's head... so that's not going to happen.
@justinianthegreat1444
@justinianthegreat1444 2 года назад
How convenient the older, smarter, faster, taller, and more pointy eared humans need the humans for their survival
@ValentineElCarbona
@ValentineElCarbona 10 месяцев назад
RG: "I am the emperors son, say no one more time to me and I will erase 3 generations of your bloodline.: Problem solved.
@the36lessons11
@the36lessons11 2 года назад
I think Guilliman only works with Yvraine and the Ynnari on behalf of Eldrad, since he probably is the only Eldar Guilliman actually trusts (slightly). I do not think Guilliman would ever have faith in Yvraine or the Eldar as a whole, save that they are fickle and deceptive. Eldrad is the exception due to his focus on stopping the Ruinous Powers above screwing over humanity as most Eldar would do.
@GrumbleGrimbus
@GrumbleGrimbus 2 года назад
The concept of future stories with Guilliman and Eldrad sounds cool
@user-fv1kh7ku3v
@user-fv1kh7ku3v 2 года назад
It is sound stupid becouse it against whole Waha plot.
@udp1073
@udp1073 2 года назад
I dont remember in which novel but one of the aeldeari farseer said to Guilliman that the destiny of both race is connected, human fail and aeldeari will fall, if human succedee, the aeldeari will survive, so i assume there will be this “connection” from now on..
@eotwkdp
@eotwkdp 2 года назад
So basically both sides are tied
@davidburnett5049
@davidburnett5049 2 года назад
I would like that
@eotwkdp
@eotwkdp 2 года назад
@@davidburnett5049 I like to to as humans have someone to talk to
@benren7305
@benren7305 2 года назад
It's called bad writing to force diversity
@salamaabid6923
@salamaabid6923 2 года назад
@@benren7305 is it? Surely it’s bad writing to just keep an extremely stale setting that doesn’t move at all? Maybe if RG didn’t return you could have your stagnant and collapsing empire that further damages itself due to its xenophobic attitude (which is also a pro diversity message surely?) With RG at the helm using his demigod brain he should be able to see the way things are going, there will need to be an alliance now Chaos has cut the galaxy in half with that storm or whatever, tyranids getting ever closer (the current incursions are just a tiny bit of the hive apparently) and the necrons doing their thing. How they handle the writing is a better thing to be worried about but the setting does need to move forward and making things less one dimensional will also be nice
@phantomwraith1984
@phantomwraith1984 2 года назад
Memes of guiliman sleeping with yvraine aside, it's simple. The imperium is simply spread too thin and they need to suck up their pride and ask for help
@timothylyons5686
@timothylyons5686 2 года назад
As long as the Officio Assassinorium continue to back Gulliman there will be no problem. If he loses their backing then he's in big trouble.
@WR288
@WR288 2 года назад
The Inquisition can neither confirm nor deny that Guilliman gave Yvraine a copy of "Love can Bloom" signed by Liivi himself as a token of appreciation.
@ryansauchuk7290
@ryansauchuk7290 2 года назад
Guilliman is simply following his father's example
@macshadow1150
@macshadow1150 2 года назад
Well, at least one Primarch got q girlfriend
@generaljimmies3429
@generaljimmies3429 2 года назад
Gulliman clapping Yvraine Emperor clapping Isha
@generaljimmies3429
@generaljimmies3429 2 года назад
"Love cannot bloom, it is not an Ork." An Inquisitor, probably
@generaljimmies3429
@generaljimmies3429 2 года назад
Like Father like Son.
@riktor3005
@riktor3005 2 года назад
I believe the secret of Guilliman taking advice from a Xeno is less about it happening, but more about the subject and frequency. In Godblight, he was using the advice from the Aeldari on events within the warp/immaterium to manipulate or maximize the probability of certain future events occuring. For example, it was the Aeldari's advice that lead Guilliman to let frater Mathieu to leave First Landing on Iax. That intersection of Xenos, the warp, and religion have plenty of things that G would want to keep under wraps.
@brandonl7759
@brandonl7759 2 года назад
This is such a Guilliman move. Now that the inquisition and religious oligarchy has lost a lot of power, I think this can work out.
@user-fv1kh7ku3v
@user-fv1kh7ku3v 2 года назад
Nice joke, lol. Imperium survived 12 k years with I and church work and now clow manager from 21 cenctuary return to only ruin, lol
@brandonl7759
@brandonl7759 2 года назад
@@user-fv1kh7ku3v I found the inquisition spy 👀
@namenull7399
@namenull7399 2 года назад
It may be that Guilliman is trying to keep control over how people will see his consorting with Aeldari. It's much better optically for Guilliman to reveal this info himself then it would be if it somehow leaks out. The reaction is always going to be bad because of the nature of how the Imperium view Xenos, but it would be much worse politically if the info leaks and then Guilliman has to explain himself vs Guilliman reveals this info and assures that he will not be manipulated while reinforcing the strength of the Imperium.
@00yiggdrasill00
@00yiggdrasill00 2 года назад
That's actually exactly the move someone as politically adept as Papa Smurf would make. It's not some nasty surprise that comes out leading to the idea he is being manipulated by the Eldar as the so often do while remaining in the shadows. This says "here they are. I'm in charge".
@macshadow1150
@macshadow1150 2 года назад
Main diffrence between him and Emp, he doesnt want to keep secrets from his underlings, simply seeking the best way to do this
@jasonparrish8670
@jasonparrish8670 2 года назад
So, general knowledge of the Great Enemy was always very limited, even among Astartes Chapters, and the GKs have made mincemeat out of those who know a little too much. Now the Big G is making a general announcement among fleet command about Chaos being real and their primary goal, which is why they're all having tea with the Not-so-Great Enemy. Guilliman and the Emperor already met, so the Custodes aren't reacting because it's their marching orders from the absolute top. That alone should be enough to cow the senior members of any branch of the Imperium, and those who aren't cowed are Chaos-loving traitors to humanity that should be purged. Seems simple enough.
@karamelapple8007
@karamelapple8007 2 года назад
Awesome
@____________838
@____________838 2 года назад
Wait. I know that The Great Enemy isn’t known about by the Imperium at large, but I could have sworn all Astartes were aware of it…
@erichoughton4128
@erichoughton4128 2 года назад
There’s a reason the first guard their secrets. Azrael knew a greater demon’s true name… lol i’d say the GK aint the only ones knowledgeable about the ruinous powers
@erichoughton4128
@erichoughton4128 2 года назад
@Diego Mejia the first is the first. They are privy to yhings thatd see em burn from the inquisition
@erichoughton4128
@erichoughton4128 2 года назад
@Diego Mejia lol well to be fair the DA have the kinda shit that’d erase most things out of existence.
@TechnoCheezit
@TechnoCheezit 2 года назад
I think the races of the galaxy figuring out how to get along would be a nice theme. They've got plenty of battles to fight to save the galaxy. They don't need to be wasting tume murdering each other. It would also make them feel less stupid because you think someone would realize that they would need to suck it up and stand together before chaos, the nids, or the orks krump the galaxy.
@thelion2751
@thelion2751 2 года назад
Guilliman know that he is the more powerful (political and military) person in the imperium at this moment,and eldar and humans have one thing alike and that is the fact that they want to survive, alliances is the best decision they have now
@justiron2999
@justiron2999 2 года назад
He barely just got resurrected for what, a millenia? While the rot of war, corruption, the inquisition, the ecclisiarchy, and the forces of xenos and chaos run free and rampant. He needs all the wins and help that he can get.
@benren7305
@benren7305 2 года назад
Ruining the setting
@karamelapple8007
@karamelapple8007 2 года назад
@@DaniMol the inquisition is garbage and not needed
@gordonrobertsart
@gordonrobertsart 2 года назад
The aeldari have two things Guilliman wants. Knowledge about Chaos (they maybe the only race in universe with actual (mostly) safe to use information) and the webway. Guilliman is almost as big of a collector of information as Magnus was. He knows he cannot beat Chaos without actionable intelligence. Big E was working on getting access to the Webway, which Guilliman didn't know but would most definately want if he learned about it. Ego Guilliman is going to use the space elves to get what he wants (while also learning more about their locations and capabilities) and then obliterate them.
@ryan1000011
@ryan1000011 2 года назад
eldar aren't great to ask for help against choas....their 2 biggest interactions with the warp are the birth of a god that wants to eat their souls and the enslaver plague using them as doors to attack the universe. The Eldar are good at manipulating orks and to lesser extent Nids
@aguspuig6615
@aguspuig6615 2 года назад
honestly i wouldnt wanna be one of the priests or comanders in that room with Rob i mean in one hand xenos, short of chaos are as bad as it gets and colaborating with them is about the biggest betrayal one can make, but on the other hand guilliman is a primarch with the emperors sword, backed by the custodes, i dont know how i would act if i had been endoctrinated my whole life to velibe all xenos are always evil but also that the primarchs, custodes, and the emperor are figures of religious adoration, i dont know my head would probably just explode if i had to choose between going against the custodes and a primarch or colaborate with xenos, like yeah from our point of view its a risky move by guilliman, but from the point of view of a general of the guard its absolute heresy done the son of god
@spacefx1340
@spacefx1340 2 года назад
Roboute has a half superhuman half elder son, fight me....
@ryansauchuk7290
@ryansauchuk7290 2 года назад
*loads Bolter*
@eviljagtech
@eviljagtech 2 года назад
If written right, nothing Guilliman does is "on the spot" as these political shuffling, organization of data and well placed gambles are really his superpower as a Primarch, he is an organizer not primarily a fighter. Also the setting could use a bit of change with all the new Xeno's out there. I'm not saying to make 40k a bright and happy place, but a bit of color wouldn't be to bad either. I would like to see Roboute's Dauntless Few show up as counter to the Chaos Primarch's, at minimum Rogal Dorn, Leman Russ as Ferrus Manus and Sanguinius would be a bit tricky.
@DAAllan82
@DAAllan82 2 года назад
I’d rather see the second loyalist primarch to be someone who doesn’t fit so neatly into a revived imperial structure. If someone like Dorn or LJ come back, it’s too clean: RG does the politics and administration while the other is the warmaster. I’d rather see someone like The Kahn come next - his tactics aren’t a clear fit, his strengths aren’t a symbiotic fit. He’d have to take on both a caretaking/rebuilding role as well as a more traditional offensive/defensive role instead of just using speed. And with him being so unknowable, it would create greater character development and a more interesting relationship between the brothers. JMO though.
@macshadow1150
@macshadow1150 2 года назад
I want both Corvus and Vulkan back
@vaguedreams
@vaguedreams 2 года назад
@@DAAllan82 Is it really? How do you think Dorne is going to react to Guilliman have a chapter that is well beyond the limits imposed by him? The man has proven himself in the defense of Terra, held off multiple primarchs and their armies as well as the forces of chaos, only to be told that hey buddy thanks for all that, and your scrifices and all, but we need you to fuck off now and break up the greatest team of engineers and builders we have because even though you've proven your loyalty beyond anyone else, you can't be trusted because... reasons. If any Primarch is going to have issues with Papa Smurf it's going to be Big D.
@markrtoffeeman
@markrtoffeeman 2 года назад
Given the captured Aeldari goddess in Nurgles garden could be the key to the physical resurrection of The Emperor, there are common interests between The Imperium of Man and the Aeldari. Namely the defeat of Chaos. Necrons. Tyranids.
@lukehamilton6629
@lukehamilton6629 2 года назад
Never connected isha to the resurrection of the emperor! Very smart
@SittingOnEdgeman
@SittingOnEdgeman 2 года назад
This is Guilleman playing all sides at once. Showing the Aeldari how much the Imperium hates them, and to warn them off of playing games. Showing he does not bow to the inquisition or ministorum but at the same time showing he respects them enough to not lie to them. It is probably the most delicate moment in his regency so far, and arguably the most important for the overall future of the imperium and Guilleman's heroic effort to turn back the clock to an Imperium that knew and believed in science.
@HorusHeresy1982
@HorusHeresy1982 2 года назад
He'll only be able to change Imperial politics for the long term in a more stable time. Right now it's just a necessity to work together with the races that are willing to do so. The Eldar (I won't use that name) have a more stable method of transport to the Imperium Nihilus atm. It benefits the Imperium to work with them to stabilize and save what they can. After that, change can happen.
@MightyGalvatron
@MightyGalvatron 2 года назад
At this point, I wouldn't put it past Guilliman to arrange some sort of non-aggression treaty with the Necrons as well. The galaxy has changed too much since 30k and he's too pragmatic to waste his time fighting would-be allies while the Imperium is being destroyed by Orks, Tyranids and Chaos.
@worgen65
@worgen65 2 года назад
Possibly not. The Necrons want to completely block the Warp's influence in the universe - last I knew, at least - and that would likely annihilate the Eldar and destroy any number of humans. The galaxy relies on the Warp in many ways. Navigators, for example, and the Eldar are intensely powerful psykers. Losing those connections in a short space of time would be catastrophic
@MightyGalvatron
@MightyGalvatron 2 года назад
@@worgen65 And Guilliman may surmise that their long-term goals are the lesser threat to humanity's survival. A non-aggression treaty would at least make sure that Necron and Imperial guns are both pointed at the more immediate threats instead of each other. They don't have to be friends or even allies.
@worgen65
@worgen65 2 года назад
@@MightyGalvatron I don't disagree. My thing is the Necrons may be slow, but with their goal of cutting off the Warp, any delay would help them. If they cut off the Warp, they would become impossible to stop. It's their only weak point. Outside of blowing their Tomb Worlds to pieces with Exterminatus weapons, but there are - presumably - so many that even Szarekh hasn't found yet. Plus, some dynasties would be able to strike the Imperials with near impunity, such as Suhbekhar or maybe Oruscar. Or the dynasty that blows them up, more likely. Every second they get helps them infinitely more than their "allies"
@worgen65
@worgen65 2 года назад
I love how I'm willing to write paragraphs on this stuff but am comparatively useless in other lines of discussion XD
@lukkaredwolf3534
@lukkaredwolf3534 2 года назад
Guilliman going back to the scientific background: experimenting to find out how loud he can clap Yvraine's cheeks
@____________838
@____________838 2 года назад
Just judging by his general size, and the size of her badonkadonk, quite loudly, I assume.
@hawk4192
@hawk4192 2 года назад
Considering xenos are not entirely unheard of as mercenaries and even temporary allies when a larger threat shows up, this is a big nothing burger unless the plot desires to cast any semblance of common sense aside as usual.
@ianharrison5758
@ianharrison5758 2 года назад
I mean guilleman, the lord commander himself, working with Xenos is very different than the blood angel and Necron temporary team up, or working with the Tau to fight the Tyranids. Those and all other team ups have been short lived, in the moment team ups born of desperation and the need to survive. Using the kroot or Orcs as expendable warriors is not the same as an alliance. This is a whole different thing The lord commander having a member of the Eldar in his circle, and actively coordinating long term strategies with them is going to have a much much bigger impact. The imperium will see Guilleman as a heretic and depending on how the wider imperium finds out, could lead to Guilleman needing to remove the inquisition and Ecclesiarchy from power. They will not see reason and they will not obey him when what he’s doing not only goes against their “god” but also threatens their own grip on power. The implications of this alliance of sorts could be good or bad in the long term, but regardless of what theme it takes, the impact will be massive in a way no other alliance in history could be.
@henrypaleveda7760
@henrypaleveda7760 2 года назад
@@ianharrison5758 In those days the last alliance of Elves and Men joined to fight the great enemy, to assault Barad'ur
@hawk4192
@hawk4192 2 года назад
@@ianharrison5758 Considering the massive influx of chaos into the galaxy it seems appropriate for an alliance of races on the "order" side of things. The reaction being anything other than "Given how fucked things are we can use any help we can get (for now) is the typical destruction of common sense the setting seems to engage in far too often.
@ianharrison5758
@ianharrison5758 2 года назад
@@hawk4192 we can see in real life that some people are too ignorant , bigoted or hyper religious to accept anything outside their beliefs, even if cooperation is clearly the better option. While it will definitely get taken to a grim dark extreme, the galaxy reacting very poorly to the alliance is not an unrealistic response. It’s not like the emperor not being able to kill Horus after he literally doomed mankind, because he loved him too much. That’s a complete breakdown of common sense. The imperium is beyond hyper religious, ignorant, bigoted, indoctrinated and anti-intellectual. It’s illegal to even invent anything new, even a well educated nobleman or governor will be completely under the thumb of the imperial cult. The average citizen will not be able to logically just get over their life long indoctrination, not unless the threat immediate, and the second the threat is gone, the indoctrination will take hold again. The imperium has been brainwashing its people for longer than human civilization in real life has even existed. The notions of Xenophobia, Anti-intellectualism and Religious extremeism is literally the entire basis of its society. Only in the most desperate times do people that blind suddenly see. Obviously not every imperial citizen is like that. Some of the highest levels of nobility, Planetary Governors, and the top ranks of the Military would definitely see the wisdom in this alliance, but even the common soldier would not. The inquisition and Ecclesiarchy are a mixed bag. Some have a lot more nuance in their beliefs than others but as a whole, they will not like this. The reaction the imperium has will defend on how many know it’s going on. If the whole galaxy found out at once it would be… very very very bad. If the right people in the right positions can keep it hush hush till the alliance sees its end, then we’re all good.
@Crimson_Loki
@Crimson_Loki 2 года назад
I say this again and again every time this topic comes up so I won't begrudge anyone for calling me unoriginal but yet again, I repeat, the buck begins and ends with the Emperor. In this new age in 40k the Emperor has been more active than he's ever been since the time he was placed on that throne. I have no doubt whatsoever that he is keeping an eye on everything that's going on, certainly (after the Horus Heresy) everything that's going on with Guilliman. If Guilliman does something that the Emperor doesn't like, I'm sure he'll make that opinion known. So to all the people screaming "HERESY", think on this, as far as the Emperor's concerned, unless the criticism is coming from him, cries of heresy are cries of heresy against the Emperor himself as you have to assume that what Guilliman is doing is sanctioned.
@ryansauchuk7290
@ryansauchuk7290 2 года назад
All part of the Emperors plan to secure the webway so he can acquire Eldar hookers
@aguspuig6615
@aguspuig6615 2 года назад
youre right, but at the same time the imperium is full of religious zealots that could one day worship guilliman as a literal son of god but the next day consider that hes the enemy and that even tho he might appear similar to the emperor thats just a test of faith put there by the emperor himself to see if they are worthy or something, i mean when guilliman raises monarchia lorgar at first considers it a test of faith, during the age of apostasy (idk if thats how its written but you know the one with goge vandire) the sisters of battle almost came to blows with the custodes just because a single man with no more relation to the emperor than anyone else made them velibe the custodes themselves were heretics, i dont think annyone in the guard is gonna atack guilliman, obviously not the custodes, but the eclisiarchy is pretty scary to me they might just go full schizo and declare a war on the rest of the imperium that follows guilliman
@StarFyodperor
@StarFyodperor 2 года назад
Maybe Emperor back in 30K did not really hate all xenos... Maybe they just had a lots of bad relations, Maybe due to Warp influence, yet he was still searching for allies. Maybe GurlyMan is looking to that also...
@joeblazer3429
@joeblazer3429 2 года назад
I think the Eldar specifically attacked humanity in its hour of weakness during the Age of Darkness and exacerbated their problems. The emperor remembers this and declared the Eldar a high priority enemy
@wendigo835
@wendigo835 2 года назад
@@joeblazer3429 It's weird, because during the time of the Age of Darkness the eldar were entirely uninterested in humanity. They were at the height of their empire's collapse, and were actively imploding in on themselves with whole planets falling into cannibalistic depravity and the craftworlds taking to the furthest reaches of the stars (Exodites had already left centuries if not millennia before). The eldar did not breach human space--humans likely breached aeldari space in their galaxy-spanning colonization attempts before the Warp went haywire and locked them all down. What Old Night humans might have faced of the eldar would be insane, pleasure-seeking marauders as the Aeldari Empire's actual military was entirely automated and unstoppably efficient (they'd been militaristically unmatched for tens of millions of years, after all). When Slaanesh was born and his birth-scream ripped the souls from 99.9% of all aeldari in the galaxy, the Warp finally calmed. The Eye of Terror opened, and the Emperor set about mopping up Terra to begin his Great Crusade to reunite humanity. The eldar weren't lying in wait for humans to be weak, they had their own massive problems and what attacked human-claimed worlds were likely little more than wandering pleasure-seekers. As for current 40k, the eldar attack humanity the same way they've always attacked them: drukhari & corsair raids, with dips from Asuryani & harlequins here and there where Maiden Worlds or the like are threatened. The "eldar" are not a monolith, and the Craftworlds have no more control over what Commorragh does than the Imperium has control over what Chaos-tainted humans do. Corsairs are independent pirates. Even down to individual craftworlds, they function as entirely independent worldship-states who rarely actually agree and work together.
@notepadplusplus4923
@notepadplusplus4923 Год назад
@@wendigo835 not a warhammer historian, but one of the videos I watched talked about dark eldar raiding some planet at the that time i think
@probablythedm1669
@probablythedm1669 2 года назад
Gulliman is doing realpolitik. Working with them is better than being used by them, or to be hindered by them. Besides, why waste resources fighting someone that does not need to be an enemy? Even if they're creepy psychic aliens... I mean every description of aeldari seems to be "kinda pretty to look at, but revoltingly uncanny valley wrong when they start to move". I've yet to see animation match the words of how "wong" they seem to humans when they move. So as much as I am in favor of "aeldar girlfriend"-jokes, I'd rather see creepy, too fast, bendy, eldar that just move "wrong" to the human eye. It sounds creepy and cool.
@Matihood1
@Matihood1 2 года назад
I don't know if the eldars are pretty to look at. As far as I know, they have unnaturally slender figures.
@henrypaleveda7760
@henrypaleveda7760 2 года назад
@@Matihood1 depends on where you look, but yes, they need more meat on their bones
@Prophetofthe8thLegion
@Prophetofthe8thLegion 2 года назад
Honestly memes of big tiddy eldar girlfriends aside Gulliman is a terrifying dude. He can easily make the rational and impossible decision to sacrifice a world to deny the traitors from taking another more valuable world. I can easily see Gulliman using the Eldar to his advantage and then when all his enemies are destroyed and their use is spent, pull a Mount Ararat and completely genocide them into extinction.
@rankcolour8780
@rankcolour8780 2 года назад
I'm not exactly a Guilliman fan, but I think he catches a bad rep and is underestimated a lot. Sure he isn't the best fighter but his other logical and logistical abilities are terrifying. He is all about the bigger picture, something pretty unique among the Primarchs. Very much his fathers son in that aspect. Saying that the Emperor didn't have that much of a problem with the Eldar, being pen-pals of a sort with Eldrad so I think Gman is taking a better with them than against them appraoch.
@Subject_Keter
@Subject_Keter 2 года назад
@@rankcolour8780 The other Primarchs are good at fighting and leading but leading Society especially one that literally questioned a Primarch openly to his face and view him as a issue to their schemes? I would not want to imagine the Lion or Russ being the first one to find this mess.
@rankcolour8780
@rankcolour8780 2 года назад
@@Subject_Keter Their solution would no doubt be a much more fatal and bloody mess. Both of them were perhaps the Emperors most reliable weapons and while they are both genius level intelligences they are weapons of utter destruction 1st and foremost. Again not to belittle Gmans powers at war, but they are all built differently and in a way Gman - the less terrifying warrior- is far more terrifying in the 40k setting for his ability to outplay everyone and everything without cutting everyone's head off.
@craigfoulger5996
@craigfoulger5996 2 года назад
@@Subject_Keter Russ would have started a civil war. The Lion would have started one, won it, then carried on with afternoon.
@eotwkdp
@eotwkdp 2 года назад
Then he would be like his father wouldn’t he. Plus the eldar would have plans to curse mankind anyway
@kccustodes2618
@kccustodes2618 2 года назад
I still do not get why this is such an issue? Sure, an author wants to play up his story but if I am not mistaken there is a craftworld that gets a free escort through Imperium space whenever they need it. Also, doesn't Cawl have a partnership with a craftword too? And why is any anti-Guilleman feelings in these novels a thing? He spoke to the Emperor, he has St. Celestine's support, he has Custodes support. Is anyone going to actively question the Emperor when by all accounts Guilleman has the Emperor's full support? Yeah, the Custodes were not 100% his supporters right off, but ONLY the Custodes know this, they are NOT gossiping it all over to anyone and everyone.
@RayFog1
@RayFog1 2 года назад
A Xenos being so high up the imperial command chain is unheard of
@kccustodes2618
@kccustodes2618 2 года назад
@@RayFog1 Unheard of or not, to any of his political opponents he has support of Custodes (Voice of the Emperor), St. Celestine (Emperor's something or other). has spoken to the Emperor, and is the son of the Emperor. Sure, we the readers know some of this is sus (or are being led to some being sus), but the average Imperium higher ups have zero clue. Custodes are not gonnna gossip and neither is St. Celestine. That is what I do not get about any of this. There are so many awesome directions stories could go in the current setting, why are they trying to hard to fabricate Game of Thrones type drama?
@Skellington77
@Skellington77 2 года назад
Dog this is warhammer 40k, literally every where you look is paranoia and suspiscion. Its why the Lamenters are still looked at as traitors, or why even those that talked to the emperor are looked at with contempt "what does he know about the god emperor, im more faithful then he is"
@Blast_S_rank_1
@Blast_S_rank_1 2 года назад
Because stupid drama and grimdark just for grimdark. No need to find logic here.
@RayFog1
@RayFog1 2 года назад
@@kccustodes2618 I guess ten thousand years of xenophobic indoctrination, makes breaking the news to people weren’t around during the Great Crusade a bit more dangerous, especially now that the ecclesiarchy is so powerful.
@Hedron-Design
@Hedron-Design 2 года назад
It would be interesting if just him inviting the Eldar emissary is enough to serve the Eldar Agenda by sowing under currents of discord of itself. Might be a good way to weaken the Mon Keigh without ever doing any other manipulations.
@Neardarkphotography
@Neardarkphotography 2 года назад
I think if they had an alliance in the lore that played into the table top game. More people would probably buy new eldar models to take along side space marines. it would be a wise choice for the sales department
@____________838
@____________838 2 года назад
Like 7th Edition’s allies matrix?
@torbenfranke1859
@torbenfranke1859 5 месяцев назад
The sad thing is, he can't just clean up the imperium. The longer he'd focus inwards on getting the imperium back on track, the more he'd risk breaking it and allowing foes from outside to lay siege to them. He'd need to ally with tau, Eldari and possibly Necrons (or at least a non aggression pact) to buy himself the needed time to mop up the dirt in the imperium, or use these alliances to get rid of the unrelenting enemies to relieve the pressure for doing the cleaning later...
@eichler721
@eichler721 2 года назад
I think this might lead to a defensive alliance with the Eldar as Chaos, Tyranids and Necrons have such an advantage.
@yseson_
@yseson_ 2 года назад
It’s the smartest move considering our galaxy is the “last man standing” being surrounded by Tyranids on all side
@nilkafi3932
@nilkafi3932 2 года назад
Narratively speaking, it seems logical for the Imperium and the Aeldari to ally themselves against chaos as well as the Tyranid and Ork threats. I also think that GW might try a system of alliances like in AoS, where factions of the same alliance can fight together.
@harlequin2614
@harlequin2614 2 года назад
I think that would really cool! Team battles incoming! Lol
@cybronikai1957
@cybronikai1957 2 года назад
Deathwatch is punching air rn
@skoshman1
@skoshman1 2 года назад
This will cause more problems, but the timing means that it will happen at a time of place og Guilliman's choosing. Had he waited longer, of revealed piecemeal he would have had different issues. Everyone whom would, or should object and potentially conspire again him got the dame message at the same time. No one can accuse him of secret conspiracy now to gain advantage as everyone now knows. He might have to deal with hundreds of plots to undermine him and the alliance, but that is far better than thousands of plots and he has made sure that there are many more layees of protection between himself and the Emperor should those pointy eared xenos try to play him too hard (player's gootta play, but Gulliman knows the game)
@joefloggg3257
@joefloggg3257 2 года назад
Emperor TTS said it best "I couldn't tell my son's I was a building web way so I could get some Eldar booty call." RG just beat him to it... he beat the Big E to his secret plan
@soccrplayr232
@soccrplayr232 2 года назад
Well I mean on some level Gulliman just had recently dealt with the Horus heresy going to shit from the emperor keeping secrets from his commanders so he might just want to make sure he doesn’t do the same thing. Avoid someone important figuring it out on their own and doing something stupid.
@ericmacrae6871
@ericmacrae6871 Год назад
Good point
@heirwolf6929
@heirwolf6929 2 года назад
A fitting description for Guilliman could be enlightened absolutist/despot. He wields absolute power but tries to use his power for the benefit of the whole.
@riellyodonnell3993
@riellyodonnell3993 2 года назад
This channel..truly is a great fing
@chainsawsubtlety9828
@chainsawsubtlety9828 2 года назад
I'm still convinced that Wolf Lord Rho is actually an undercover Ork. 🙃
@MrGlobbits
@MrGlobbits 2 года назад
I fink so too. One of the great forty fousand channels.
@riellyodonnell3993
@riellyodonnell3993 2 года назад
Cant F-ing wait for my next Fix of Rho
@madginger3634
@madginger3634 2 года назад
RG- the only Primarch raised by a mother.
@karlsolaris414
@karlsolaris414 2 года назад
Other primarchs are an example of "motherless behavior with Daddy issues" 😂
@cheeseburger12
@cheeseburger12 2 года назад
The Big G is lucky that if the Lion is the next to come back, he also was part of Secondus.
@jadedkratos5528
@jadedkratos5528 2 года назад
An open alliance between the Imperium and Aeldari would be a wise decision, especially if it's out in the open. Maybe if the Imperium becomes more open to negotiating a truce between xeno races the T'au might consider aligning themselves with the Astra Militarum and the Mechanicus.
@lordpfeiffer8490
@lordpfeiffer8490 2 года назад
Elder and dark elder though is the problem. The imperium commanders see one race and don't forget about the elder pirate princes outside of both.
@Countvonlukenheim
@Countvonlukenheim 2 года назад
Gulliman may not have met/worked with Eldrad but Alpharius/Omigon has...
@jrmayun
@jrmayun 2 года назад
From where is this? New to the 40k universe but those two has always caught my attention.
@dac314
@dac314 2 года назад
I think so did Fulgrim...? Or was it Magnus? One of the other traitors was "warned" by Eldrad but they freaked out instead of actually listening to his words.
@pepperjack3777
@pepperjack3777 2 года назад
@@dac314 fulgrim
@dac314
@dac314 2 года назад
@@pepperjack3777 for a dude who can see the future, Eldrad picked the wrong Primarch to approach about the coming Heresy.
@pepperjack3777
@pepperjack3777 2 года назад
@@dac314 yeah that's usually the main issue that comes up when you talk about a character that can see the future " oh why didn't they see that coming?" And the usual response is well they didn't get the whole picture only parts of it.
@viewernewest
@viewernewest 2 года назад
Why? Better to reveal this secret on his terms and on his time table than like a tabloid expose.
@viewernewest
@viewernewest 2 года назад
Also, he should have brought Gabriel Angelos, chapter master of the Blood Ravens, in on this. His multiple dealings with the Aeldari could help with the situation.
@coldgarden_
@coldgarden_ 2 года назад
I'm excited about what the 2 races can achieve together but it does fuel his detractors.
@VegarotFusion
@VegarotFusion 2 года назад
His revelation will no doubt cause some problems throughout the Imperium. Especially the further it spreads across it. But he probably thinks that it is all something he will be able to deal with, as long he has the respect, trust and loyalty of everyone present to have faith in him. And this open and honest discussion is the first step to earning it. Also having an open working relationship with the Ynnari can lead to a steady decline in conflicts between Humans and Eldar across the galaxy. As long as they continue to set an example for the rest to follow.
@burniejarvis9298
@burniejarvis9298 2 года назад
He is playing a very dangerous game. It's definitely risking a civil war if things get out of hand.
@thijshagenbeek8853
@thijshagenbeek8853 2 года назад
Guilliman has no choise. Every enemy he need not face, benefits the Indomitus fleets. If the Eldar arent one of them. Then its a win. Guilliman is tasked with stabilizing a now split Imperium with 10,000 years of backwards progress. He wants to get it done. He does not have his Loyalist brothers to hand , whom he could trust to deal with problems that need a Primarchs attention. Aside from all the political strings this pulls. The Imperium does not have the time. Nor the luxery of fighting everyone, and everything. Everywhere. But I think mostly, this is a kick against the Inquisition and the Ministorum, and the time he lives in. He will accept their presence. But if he must, absolutely accept them. Then they will accept the Elder. Its such a clear open threat. " If this crusade succeeds. If I Succeed. I will bring it back to what I left behind. And no man living now can stop me." Then added to that. He outsmarted. Outplayed. And outdid the High Lords. He allready established he is not to be trifled with.
@LoganSearles
@LoganSearles 2 года назад
I found it funny that the high lords thought that they could topple a primarch.
@thijshagenbeek8853
@thijshagenbeek8853 2 года назад
@@LoganSearles Why should they not. The amount of influence the High Lords wielded is immense. They had alot of recources and the biggest nugget they has is that Primarchs have died before. Their best hope was the assasination of Konrad Curze. That was 1 assasin. On Terra they had a few dozen. A full chapter of proven Astartes killers in the Minotaurs and the will to use them. I think the ruthless political accumen Guilliman possesed was something they did not expect. I feel the High Lords expected a general, a warrior but not much more. Not to mention most stories of the Primarchs by M41 are intensely blown up, Guilliman probably being the exception in that he can live up to his legend. And no being in 10,000 years has met a Primarch, so believing that they can be dealt with, dispite their immense abillities is not a far flung conclusion.
@LoganSearles
@LoganSearles 2 года назад
@@thijshagenbeek8853 Fair, but the thing about Konrad is that he let the assassin kill him. She didn’t fight him. It was more of an assisted suicide.
@thijshagenbeek8853
@thijshagenbeek8853 2 года назад
@@LoganSearles True. But it is not the how, but the outcome that matters. The fact a mortal assasin 'could' kill a Primarch. It may have taken a 100. But you just need 1 lucky shot. And in terms of numbers, the High Lords had plenty.
@starsiegeRoks
@starsiegeRoks Год назад
The "laspulse" rifle is a very important tool that will help us later! *Blues Clues with a Necron tech priest in the corner intensifies*
@filipmatyja
@filipmatyja 2 года назад
Nice break point for loyalist armies. Are we looking for new break within?
@fixedG
@fixedG 2 года назад
I'm very curious if this is going to turn into a civil war with the Inquisition and if it's all a ploy by Tzeentch. The Primaris are a change of ways from first-born Astartes. Cooperation and secret alliances with xenos are certainly changes. Hell, Guilleman even coming back and taking over from the High Lords was a big change. Tzeentch hates Nurgle and Nurgle's minions have already had an act in this play with the Plague Wars.
@deborahschell5722
@deborahschell5722 2 года назад
Is it possible that he knows the Necrons are coming back in force and the Empire alone does not have a chance? From what I understand from my grandfather's books the Necrons have a burning hatred for the Eldar and considering the Eldar;s fall from grace they are a shadow of their might and could this be a case of..... "The enemy of my enemy is my friend"? I think this would be an interesting story line or have I said the stupidest ever?
@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623
@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 2 года назад
Logically both the Eldar and the Imperium need each other. Without the might of the Imperium the Orks, the Necrons, Chaos and the Tyranids would overrun the galaxy, as the Eldar are too few in number to stop one of them, let alone all. And the Imperium could do with one less enemy to deal with, allowing it to focus more resources on all the others. Logically Eldar farseers providing the Imperium with intel and even limited access to the Webway, would be a huge boon to the Imperium. Which is why exactly it won't happen as that would move the setting forward in a significant way. Can't have that, no sirree! It must always be kept ad infinitum of near Imperial collapse. Cause grimdark!
@grimgoreironhide9985
@grimgoreironhide9985 2 года назад
That’s the problem I think the 40k lore writers face. If they write the lore to have a hopeful progression then it doesn’t become grimdark enough and 40k loses it’s dark and gothic appeal. If they write a lore to be too hopeless then it’s becomes boring as well.
@chipmo
@chipmo 2 года назад
Can't have too much success for the forces of order and hope when you need eternal war to sell miniatures
@joeblazer3429
@joeblazer3429 2 года назад
@@grimgoreironhide9985 Honestly, and you might think I'm lame for this. I kind of hope (if warhammer whateverK ever does finish) it goes in the opposite direction of Warhammer Fantasy and lets order take the dub. I know it would ruin the grimdark for a lot of longterm fans, so I understand if they don't. But I think the horrific struggle that Warhammer 40K has been could make humanity's salvation and triumph all the sweeter in the end. It would make me feel hella good at least, lol.
@jackofn0trades29
@jackofn0trades29 2 года назад
Hey thank you for the spoiler warning! I’m only halfway through avenging son, and I’m excited to see how the centerpiece series for ninth edition goes!
@Rheinguard
@Rheinguard 2 года назад
That Yvraine kitty that good huh bro? Don't blame him.
@chrisbatt6531
@chrisbatt6531 2 года назад
If Guilliman tries to bring back the imperial truth would he inadvertently destroy Big E’s power?
@Ryanfinder226
@Ryanfinder226 Год назад
Yes and no. He would merely begin reverting the Emperor back towards his normal levels of power, which at he is still one of the most potent psychic forces in existence
@RedPandaGod01
@RedPandaGod01 Год назад
A stable lasting alliance between the imperium and the Aeldari, is one of the best things for the galaxy, as the Eldar hold the key to truly defeating Chaos, yet don't have the power or unity to do so, well the imperium holds some of the greatest power in the universe, and have just as much to benefit from defeating Chaos, however they lack the means to do little more then banished demons to return back to the Warp and resurrect.
@erichoughton4128
@erichoughton4128 2 года назад
Im thinking Guilliman understands he cant re build the Imperium alone and some of the mistakes of the past shouldn’t be repeated. The Eldar can’t allow humanity to succumb to chaos, it’d be the end of everything an they know it. Im thinking the Eldrad can bring back some of his lost brothers by Eldar means.
@user-fv1kh7ku3v
@user-fv1kh7ku3v 2 года назад
He cant, lol. He is not Emperor for this, lol
@redmantis9301
@redmantis9301 2 года назад
I'm sorry. But I can't comprehend anyone who sees an Aeldari and isn't visited with the instantaneous and fiery urge to punch it in the face.
@krimzonstriker7534
@krimzonstriker7534 2 года назад
Should check out the Armour of Fate short story if you have time Wolf, it breaks down the relationship Eldrad and Guilliman about his involvement in Guilliman's resurrection.
@timothylyons5686
@timothylyons5686 2 года назад
It all depends on who the next loyalist Primarch Games Workshop decide bring back.
@zdravkominev6305
@zdravkominev6305 2 года назад
There's a short story "The Armour of Fate" by Guy Haley where Guilliman get to meet Eldrad for a wee chat if im not wrong. And also there he imply they know each other well ...
@williambaldwin6779
@williambaldwin6779 2 года назад
I mean Guilliman is playing a dangerous game. If eldar emotions are like 100x stronger than human emotions I can only imagine how Yvraine would be during the week of Khaine.
@henrypaleveda7760
@henrypaleveda7760 2 года назад
week of khaine?
@uknowme2077
@uknowme2077 2 года назад
😂😂😂😂
@danielboatright8887
@danielboatright8887 2 года назад
He is getting the important people on his side, which would make the secret stand as well as generally making sure things went smooth if the Xenos were needed for a task on another ship.
@coenbaan1874
@coenbaan1874 Год назад
Jaghatai khan: wait you haven't been romancing elves for new ship engines? I invented that tactic like 10000 years ago bro. Guilliman: so that was what fulgrim was talking about.
@mrgrumpit
@mrgrumpit 2 года назад
In the armor of fate short story Guilliman speaks with Eldrad
@macshadow1150
@macshadow1150 2 года назад
Guiliman is playing with fire, sure, but he simply have no other choice. Imperium as it is, way he approched it is gamble for be or not be mankind. When galaxy is on fire, there is no way you don't get burn while trying to safe it.
@87BMr
@87BMr 2 года назад
as a fan, I quite like this development.
@benren7305
@benren7305 2 года назад
Your not a fan
@TgamerBio5529
@TgamerBio5529 2 года назад
That’s great having a diplomatic relationship with them. It’s a waste of lives and resources fighting the imperium when they should focus on fighting chaos and trynids together.
@richardlayton7184
@richardlayton7184 Год назад
No, the Emperor was working with Eldar on the Web way Project. This would remove reliance on the Astronomicon.
@Wykesidefruitmachine
@Wykesidefruitmachine 2 года назад
Squats are going to come in and fuck this up for everyone.
@oldeskul
@oldeskul 2 года назад
I think it's a desperate times calls for desperate measures and desperate times creates strange bedfellows thing.
@ianfitchett2768
@ianfitchett2768 17 часов назад
The Eldar understand what's going on better than anyone else and they hate humans but they hate Slaanesh and the forces of chaos more, and what is the first thing Guilliman did? The Indomitus crusade to push back the forces of chaos? TBH if the imperium was less dogmatic the Eldar probably wouldn't need to resort to manipulation to get them to do anything actually useful.
@jasonbolin151
@jasonbolin151 2 года назад
Pure speculation but I would say it's both after assessing the current state of things he realized tactically the Imperium was at a disadvantage. It is obvious from past references he is willing to use any tactical tool to gain advantage.
@abdoul5176
@abdoul5176 Год назад
I'm just impressed the story's being moved forward.
@Luizguilherme-iz9yl
@Luizguilherme-iz9yl 2 года назад
Dude can't get some eldar cheeks without half the galaxy being mad at him
@GamingSpoiler
@GamingSpoiler 2 года назад
I remember in an early Video you revealed that Guilleman revealed the Ecclesiarchy actually being members of the word Bearers, and yet he chose to let them continue undisturbed. Well if this is true then his game is getting more clear; he sent a subtle message to the Ecclesiarchy: shut up and don't get in my way or I'll expose you for who you really are. And that's why the Ecclesiarchy will probably have no business getting between him and the Aeldari. Guilliman finally understands that he needs to up the game otherwise the imperium can't keep up anymore; Yes the Aeldari are Sinister tricksters who cannot be trusted, but better having them on your good side than having them on your bad side. Guilliman is finally bringing the imperium to think with their brains with the mentality of "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" rather than the mentality of "Kill all Xenos" I wouldn't be surprised if he would actually be finally able to bring the Tao to the negotiations table in order to help the Imperium focus all their efforts on the primary targets: Tyranids, Chaos and Necrons. everything else is a secondary objective.
@ericmacrae6871
@ericmacrae6871 Год назад
Yes, someone said it! You are correct! Guillaman would definitely make an alliance with the Tau rather than fight them. Keep in mind that the Tau didn't exist during the Great Crusade. Now they are here as a Great Power I bet he will make some sort of treaty with them. Maybe something like that with the League of Vaulton as well
@TehOmnissiah
@TehOmnissiah 2 года назад
Self appointed regent? How? His right to rule is direct as the only surviving active primarch. Furthermore his father literally talked to him and gave him a mission. Self-appointed my eye.
@henrypaleveda7760
@henrypaleveda7760 2 года назад
I think he said "self appointed" because the high lords more or less were meant to do governmental work, and there weren't exactly many witnesses (that weren't castodes) to his disscusion with emps.
@tigeriussvarne177
@tigeriussvarne177 2 года назад
Theoretica: We have a common foe. (and they brought me back to life, have many other ways of fighting, etc.) Practica: We ally against the common foe. I stick with my Primarch. Courage and Honour!
@prakash1691
@prakash1691 2 года назад
I think it is a very bold political move and right one too because at this time imperium cannot hide the gulliman connection with eldari and also cleaserick already know about zenos connection with gulliman revival so when he told the truth to everyone in upper command section that mean he trust them and he want other trust him that's what he saying to everyone
@mrw1783
@mrw1783 2 года назад
Bobby G is being pragmatic, share information and technology, destroy Chaos, destroy The Eldar after. It's easy peasy when put like that.
@milinmt
@milinmt 2 года назад
the reference to the book in the description would be great.
@miguelzl5228
@miguelzl5228 Год назад
if i remember correctly they changed the timeline recently, so the dark imperium trilogy is at the beginning of the indomitus crusade, soo the gate of bones comes after that, maybe even the desolation of baal, i may be wrong tho
@bw5020
@bw5020 2 года назад
Lol Gulliman finna channel his inner Caesar
@mikeylejan8849
@mikeylejan8849 Год назад
The imperium needs to move on and do stuff otherwise they are screwed if they have too many enemies.
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