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Gun Trader's Trick To Remove Rust Safely, Quickly, and With No Chemicals! 

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STOP what you are about to do to remove surface rust from your firearm and watch this simple tutorial.
More extensive rusting can be removed with a bronze or copper bristle brush gently worked into the rust with generous amounts of oil and finished off with the OOOO grade steel wool.
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@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 3 года назад
“But... But... OiL iS a ChEmIcAl!” 😑 “ThE RuSt IsN’t ReMoVeD ThE oIl Is JuST cOVeRiNg iT uP!” 🙄 OK forensic video watchers, you want to tell me the barrel I have in my possession that you’ve never seen in person is actually still rusty? Second edit: I now have a video on my channel showing the same barrel that was treated nearly three years later with no maintenance also with a close up showing rust removal on a Walther PPK. Third edit: I’m seeing more people recommending the “penny trick”. Why waste an hour rubbing a penny over your entire shotgun and leaving copper fouling everywhere when this method works in seconds and does no harm? Fourth edit: Yes WD-40 and 3 in 1 oil and baby oil and mineral oil and Remoil will all work. Fifth edit: I am aware of bronze wool and the added expense and need to remove copper fouling after use. I use steel wool. Sixth edit: rust inside the barrel. There are more detailed answers in the comment section- but shotguns, wrap steel wool around a bronze bore brush with lots of oil. 10-15 passes should clean it up nicely. Rifles- use up several regular bronze bore brushes and oil before wrapping steel wool on the brush. It will destroy the sharpness of the rifling but can improve safety by removing rust that can cause excessive pressure. Both cases go slow and check for results. Seventh edit: yep, boiling the gun will convert red rust to black. This is rust bluing. Rust bluing without prep work polishing out or draw filing pits will give the appearance of a bad refinishing job and will hurt the value of guns more than having a bare patch of steel. Eighth edit: Preventing rust in the future… you should be inspecting your guns for rust at least monthly even if you aren’t using them. You will be able to catch insignificant problems before a gunsmith has to fix them. A wipe down with any oil and a soft cloth will be fine after handling. That’s all it takes. For more durable protection and for carry/hunting/utility guns a light coat of Renaissance Wax will protect them. Johnson’s paste wax can also be used on the metal and wood. Carry guns may need to be cleaned and oiled every night! Guns should always be stored in open circulating room temperature dry air whenever possible, but since most people keep their guns in safes, a dehumidifier is necessary. Guns should never be stored in soft gun cases as the cotton lining will trap moisture and hold it against the steel. Silicone treated gun socks can help prevent hand oils/salts from getting on guns you’re moving around in the safe. But they should still be checked on regularly. Guns stored on racks should be checked regularly where felt pads meet the barrel to make sure rust doesn’t form there. Ninth edit: if you want me to see your comment, post a new one, I never get notified of replies.
@WhyPhi
@WhyPhi 3 года назад
😂😂 as a chemist, I was tempted but I fought back the urge!
@daled8221
@daled8221 3 года назад
He used a synthetic even. Haha! Hopefully I'll never have to try his method. Ut-oh, I better go check them!
@billquigley8100
@billquigley8100 3 года назад
Yes. Oil is a chemical, but it is the only chemical to use on your guns. Stop being a dweeb. Everyone else understood his point. But we can wait for you to catch up. Great video. Great information.
@daled8221
@daled8221 3 года назад
@@billquigley8100 Wound up a little tight are ya? Yes I would do this if I had to.
@grantodamax
@grantodamax 3 года назад
Im not doubting your method and actually its a good one. but motor oil contains chemicals. If i really wanted to be a smartass i could say the steel wool is made of chemicals because anything on the periodic table is technically considered a chemical. Good video
@1notgilty
@1notgilty 3 года назад
The high school students used an angle grinder to remove the rust from a civil war rifle. It's painful just to hear that story.
@russelmurray9268
@russelmurray9268 3 года назад
I trust those students were held back for a year or so
@1notgilty
@1notgilty 3 года назад
​@@russelmurray9268 This reminds me of an episode of Antiques Road Show. The appraisers told the owners of a Tiffany lamp that they had good news and bad news. The good news was that the lamp was worth $5,000. The bad news was that it would have been worth $50,000 if they hadn't shined it up.
@piranhaplantX
@piranhaplantX 3 года назад
@@1notgilty yet another case of "if you don't know what the fuck you're doing, don't do it"
@joedelgado8467
@joedelgado8467 3 года назад
A grinder to remove rust from any firearm is painful to hear
@southernlonghorn4507
@southernlonghorn4507 2 года назад
Held back a year…they deserve a thorough beating 🤦🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️
@challes2000
@challes2000 3 года назад
Thanks..tried it on 22 cal rifle sitting in closet for 50 years. The 0000 steel wool with engine oil took off surface rust while leaving the bluing very nicely. Unfortunately some parts of rifle the rust ate through bluing and into the barrel. Took the rust off but I would need to do some sanding and rebluing if it was a heirloom rifle. It's a cheap $100 single shot so I'm happy with results. My sister gave me recipe to restore wood cabinets (3/4 cup canola oil mix with 1/4 cup of apple cider vinegar. I rubbed this on stock and it restored the stock to look almost like brand new. Which is not bad considering this was a rifle used for training by high schoolers in a NRA rifle club.
@charlespierce2804
@charlespierce2804 2 года назад
Hey, thanks for the recipe..
@nelsonmcatee3721
@nelsonmcatee3721 2 года назад
Just what I needed. I have a few collectors items and a house with a lot of humidity.
@squibster333
@squibster333 3 года назад
Been doing this for years...honestly thought I was the only one!
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 3 года назад
Hopefully we’ll stop seeing so many rusted guns at stores and shows now!
@jimmy4eyes8404
@jimmy4eyes8404 3 года назад
Hello, I love the info. Can I use this method on a rifle with patina without affecting the beautiful patina?
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 3 года назад
Yes, go slow and check for results. Lots of oil.
@amcdouall
@amcdouall 10 дней назад
Thanks brother!
@richardc2955
@richardc2955 2 года назад
Sir were do you buy the steel wool could you tell me will wall Mart have it or order it on line any ideas would be grateful thank you.
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 2 года назад
Walmart or any hardware store in the paint section
@apsjiml
@apsjiml 5 лет назад
it worked great ,however i have one spot i cannot get off. You mentioned using something at the ene of thr video for this. not sure what you said
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 5 лет назад
Tom thumb a bronze brush. Basically a toothbrush with copper/bronze bristles. I’m a pinch you can use the edge of an old pre-1980 penny as well. Lots of oil and gently rub at the rust and it will come right off. If the penny leaves a copper color, take it off with Hoppe’s no.9. Clean up with the steel wool and oil. If the rust is really bad and through the finish you may end up with a bare patch of steel. Just keep it oiled or waxed and it won’t ever get worse.
@jonaozo540
@jonaozo540 5 лет назад
He mentioned using a bronze brush.....not brass, not stainless steel.......bronze.
@luvlytae2767
@luvlytae2767 Год назад
Thank you 🙏🏾 😭
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises Год назад
Enjoy your rust free gun and keep it safe and clean!
@dhj.feb7953
@dhj.feb7953 3 года назад
Oil is not a chemical?
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 3 года назад
Nope it’s an all natural product pumped out of the ground.
@JL-ee9yv
@JL-ee9yv 4 года назад
Will olive oil work?
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 4 года назад
johnvia lutui Sure!
@deviantsid18
@deviantsid18 5 лет назад
That angle grinder story sent chills up my spine...
@PlanePreacher
@PlanePreacher 5 лет назад
Alex Squatch I sucked air when i heard it!
@deviantsid18
@deviantsid18 5 лет назад
@@PlanePreacher giggity
@charlesreynolds5323
@charlesreynolds5323 4 года назад
had a face like i smelled dog mess when he talked about that.
@lazylefthand
@lazylefthand 4 года назад
Kids are dumb, what do you expect.
@gedion4000
@gedion4000 4 года назад
Those were the days. A time when people were responsible enough to have gun class in school.
@leadmine8924
@leadmine8924 2 года назад
Ive used this method for years as a professional gunsmith. I make one substitution: Use Bronze wool instead of steel wool. The leftover bits of steel wool will rust away leaving mure "red rust" spots if not removed by compressor air or such. Bronze is also softer on the blued finish. If you want to strip it down to bare steel real quick, I suggest using a green pot scrubber pad!
@Macadamia923
@Macadamia923 2 года назад
@ Lead mine. I just acquired an m1903 RIA rifle and would like to clean the wood stock and handguard. Is there a safe way to do it? or should I just leave it alone?
@uncletio0428
@uncletio0428 2 года назад
@@Macadamia923 Wood stock = 3/4 cup of canola oil, mixed with 1/4 cup of Apple Cider Vinegar. - (*Research this before applying and decide if it's what you want to do. Perhaps test a very small place on gun; or another gun?)
@Macadamia923
@Macadamia923 2 года назад
@@uncletio0428 Thanks! I will try this.
@nexusofice9135
@nexusofice9135 2 года назад
I use a Magic Eraser pad. It is the abrasive equivalent of 5000 grit sand paper. And you can softly apply it and fill it with oils or other fluid of your choice after it is cleaned out. You can easily see it strip away red rust but not the blueing or other finishes.
@ArmaGuyz
@ArmaGuyz 2 года назад
Hey man Ive got an old Replica of the 1858 Army Black powder Pistol. I just got through replacing some parts on it and noticed the Cylinder and barrel are rusty. It appears to be just surface rust. But Im not a gunsmith so I dont know how exactly to go about restoring it without removing the bluing. At first I thought white vinegar, then I read some people use Transmission Fluid and Acetone mix. Then I saw a video said to spray with Carburetor Cleaner rinse off with water then boil the parts and last use 40 steel wool. Now Im reading here that you use Bronze because the steel wool hairs.. So do I just forget about boiling it and use regular bronze wool no oil? What grain of wool do you use? Do I just stuff some Bronze wool down the barrel with some kind of cleaning rod? abd thatll do the trick?
@claudiodominguez.
@claudiodominguez. 3 года назад
I agree and if I could just add one other tip. The 0000 steel wool as you mentioned is very fine and tends to break apart so I suggest to use a compressor and thoroughly blow off any steel hairs because they are rust bombs.
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 3 года назад
Yes you should always get rid of the steel hairs. Good tip!
@hogdog51
@hogdog51 3 года назад
Use a can of computer duster not an air compressor . Air compressors can blow a fine mist of condensation , computer duster is a dry inert gas .
@britskihambone8158
@britskihambone8158 3 года назад
@@hogdog51 Very good idea, thanks!
@nicholashodges201
@nicholashodges201 2 года назад
@@hogdog51 the canned air can still chill the metal enough for condensation to form. Also you never know what garbage made it's way into the can, particularly the cheap stuff
@louisc.gasper7588
@louisc.gasper7588 2 года назад
@@hogdog51 Many of us have water separators in the air line from the compressor. It is a standard precaution to keep moisture from getting into air tools.
@LostPanzer
@LostPanzer 4 года назад
As a gun lover I thank you for helping me in cleaning my shotgun it worked wonders!!! She's as beautiful as ever hitting that sub button
@seabiscuit5327
@seabiscuit5327 3 года назад
Thanks for the angle grinder tip, I been waiting to use mine.
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 3 года назад
Works for weight reduction too. Just a few lightening cuts through the bolt and barrel and it’ll be lighter than it was before.
@truthfulconch7773
@truthfulconch7773 3 года назад
@@HughesEnterprises that response sir, got you a sub.
@ellenbrooks5028
@ellenbrooks5028 5 месяцев назад
@@truthfulconch7773 HE DOES NOT WANT A SUBMARINE HE WANTS A NEW GUN
@terryfalwell3896
@terryfalwell3896 3 года назад
HONEST, USABLE KNOWLEDGE FOR FREE ON RU-vid! WHO WOULD HAVE THUNK IT? THANK YOU, SIR.
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 3 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@Ye-ci2ti
@Ye-ci2ti 3 года назад
Ha thunk
@ferrallderrall6588
@ferrallderrall6588 2 года назад
I subbed ,still hild on the dream to resurrect about 4 from the ol farm that my bro says are done,not even sure they are still around but would be worthy even if its only around 50% redone
@nicknoyb8067
@nicknoyb8067 2 года назад
I've learned how to restore, build, clean, repair, repurpose, refinish countless different things on RU-vid. Trick is to just do some counter searches and cross referencing to make sure you have an accurate tutorial or to learn a better methods. I've also learned tons about almost every type of artwork. My drawings and sketches went from cartoon like/ okay to being able to do people's portraits or even their pets with a pencil in less than 2 years so I'd say there's tons of useful information on RU-vid Don't let it go to waste.
@alpulley4894
@alpulley4894 3 года назад
My dad was a gunsmith, seen him use steel wool as you described when I was a kid. Great tip
@Foxxie55
@Foxxie55 5 лет назад
I just dragged couple of my guns out of the gun cabinet and noticed a little rust in spots after setting for a few years so I thought I'd checked YT to see if anyone has a quick solution... A big thumbs up on video.. Thanks
@benhawkins163
@benhawkins163 3 года назад
I had went hunting and water had gotten into my gun case and I did not know it and the gun sat for about a week and it had surface rust on it so now I can take it off
@youngsterc
@youngsterc 3 года назад
Does it work? I see minor rust spots on top of my colt 45 I don’t want to damage it’s titanium color
@wizardofahhhs759
@wizardofahhhs759 3 года назад
This is exactly how I clean the rust off of my carbon steel knives.
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 3 года назад
I actually like the gray patina a cleaned rusted knife gets
@everready19373
@everready19373 3 года назад
I put a mustard patina on my knives. It etches the metal and helps to keep it from rusting.
@randyblackburn9765
@randyblackburn9765 3 года назад
@@everready19373 did you ever stick the blade in a potato and leave over night ? I did this with a German Eye stockman and next morning the shiny blade was black as the ace of spades
@3rdusmcsam
@3rdusmcsam Месяц назад
Hello, I have a Schmidt Rubin 1889 Rifle that has rust inside the muzzle end. Is it okay to use the 0000 Steel Wool to remove the rust or will it damage the rifling?
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises Месяц назад
@@3rdusmcsam The short answer is yes it can damage the rifling if you wrap 0000 steel wool around a bore brush and scrub out the rust. However this is your only option if you plan on shooting it with paper patched bullets and hope to have any accuracy and a bronze brush wasn’t enough. Go slow and check for results. Stop when the bore is still dark, and don’t favor one side or another from the muzzle to preserve the concentricity of the crown. If you’re not going to shoot it, just use a bronze brush and run a patch of oil through to preserve it as-is.
@jamespruitt6718
@jamespruitt6718 3 года назад
Great tip with the steel wool. I collect older camping lanterns, several nickel plated. The 0000 wool does wonders for polishing without scratching it up.
@brianek2744
@brianek2744 4 года назад
Brother your channel is awesome, but what’s even more awesome, is that you take the time to answer everyone’s questions. Even the dumb ones you answer with kindness. Definitely earned a Sub from me. Great content, keep it up 👍🏻
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 4 года назад
Thanks, Brian!
@markthegunplumber8376
@markthegunplumber8376 3 года назад
i use this with bronze wool works well with no bluing removal. best thing is to take care of your firearms and quit storing them in cotton lined gun cases under the bed. cotton sucks moisture from the air and rusts firearms and even sucks it down the bore of the rifle. i replace many barrels every year for customers from this happening. wait a minute, please store you firearms in cotton gun cases. i like to eat.
@gusloader581
@gusloader581 2 года назад
I like this idea. I bought and used one of the "Rust Removers" on a Rem. M700 for a very small rust area near barrel/chamber about five years ago. Maybe about 1/8" by 1/2". Wanted to stop the rust from spreading. Applied the "Rust Remover" stuff and it took off the rust but also the whole exterior finish for about 1" by 3". :-( I just "subscribed".
@TheBeaker59
@TheBeaker59 3 года назад
I do this, I usually however wash first with plain hot water to remove any soluble salts, they can come from several sources like salt sea mist, corrosive ammo, the shooters sweat, etc etc. We hunt a pine forest right beside a surf beach occasionally I always wash my firearms with hot water after going there.
@ChrisLichowicz
@ChrisLichowicz 3 года назад
@G Thompson Hottest water we could get and Tide laundry soap! Then the LSA... Semper Fi - Panama, '84 UNITAS BTW, nobody uses Coca Cola anymore??
@gusloader581
@gusloader581 2 года назад
@G Thompson :-) I had not heard of that method before. I was an 0331. Okinawa is a humidity factory. The only way to get that M-60 cleaned was to make sure the Platoon Sergeant was not in the Squad bay area, then take the M-60 to the deep sink ( normally for the mop bucket ;-) ) and turn on the hot water and wash the crud down the drain. Wipe the M-60 dry and then put a thin film of L.S.A. on it and return it to the Company Armorer. Viola!
@ferrallderrall6588
@ferrallderrall6588 2 года назад
So many great tips
@DL101ca
@DL101ca 2 года назад
Throw it in the dishwasher...😱
@yepiratesworkshop7997
@yepiratesworkshop7997 2 года назад
@@DL101ca Naa... That's only for pistols. Make sure you unload them first, unless you're Alec Baldwin.
@williamcollins4082
@williamcollins4082 3 года назад
I use a carpenters pencil the wide flat type . The lead is just abrasive yet soft enough to not damage blueing
@butchglancy3850
@butchglancy3850 2 года назад
I agree. I use G96 Gun-treatment instead of oil.
@DayRider76
@DayRider76 3 года назад
I do the same thing. I use an industrial lubricant that I get from work for air compressors called R&O, comes in different weights (68, 100) etc. It stands for Rust and Oxidation. It's for carbon steel equipment that sees a lot of condensation. I use it exclusively on everything from guns, knives, tools, guitars, appliances etc. Its a crystal clear synthetic and I love it. Give it a look.
@kraggman
@kraggman 3 года назад
I collect milsurps and I've used this method for years. Works great on tired looking military relics.
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 3 года назад
Thanks for watching! I have an old video using steel wool on a Japanese Type I Carcano- turned out great!
@paulschilling6561
@paulschilling6561 3 года назад
When you get it all cleaned up wipe it all down with a very lightly oiled old fashioned cloth baby diaper
@kraggman
@kraggman 3 года назад
@@paulschilling6561 Can you still buy them ?? lol
@paulschilling6561
@paulschilling6561 3 года назад
@@kraggman yeah they're still out there and really good for polishing up your truck too !
@tissuepaper9962
@tissuepaper9962 2 года назад
@@kraggman they are seeing a bit of a resurgence because of the restrictive price and unsustainable nature of disposable diapers.
@flamingosextet8649
@flamingosextet8649 4 года назад
Thank you! I inherited a couple of guns with a little rust on them, and this video is very helpful.
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 4 года назад
Saving old guns is my mission
@truthfulconch7773
@truthfulconch7773 3 года назад
@@HughesEnterprises I have a westernfield 20 gauge. Also known as a Mossberg 385K. I've been wondering about a non corrosive way to remove the surface rust. Do you use motor oil as a lubricant for all aspects of firearm lubrication? Bolt carriers, bolts, and other moving parts suseptable to wear.
@mma1st105
@mma1st105 3 года назад
That grinder story is the real reason guns are banned in schools.
@omicrondec
@omicrondec 6 лет назад
Thank you! This is amazingly simple.
@KORR
@KORR 4 года назад
Funny, I was looking to clean up my Nova ;)
@forrestmorgan3222
@forrestmorgan3222 5 лет назад
Thank YOU for Intelligent Answer !!
@DreadSpawn1
@DreadSpawn1 4 года назад
I'm glad I found your channel. I was considering getting rust remover for my shotgun because other videos said that's what you need. Thanks for the info. I'll be heading out for some 0000 on payday.
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 4 года назад
Dread Spawn Nice! Let me know how it turns out.
@veronder
@veronder 3 года назад
This is why I dont trust the internet, Dread spawn states one has watched videos (more than one) then implys more than one content creator then proceeds to say this one video has they right methodology. The OP replys after having made a video saying they've done this to countless firearms and yet ask you to report back how it went as if one doesnt know.... Humans are strange creatures, I shall try on homemade first.....all I own
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 3 года назад
@@veronder I know it’ll work I just want to hear how happy they are with their guns in better condition. With this video I’ve probably saved 10,000-50,000+ guns from being irreparably damaged from improper cleaning methods. Over 400K views and I would bet the viewers also tell their friends how to do it. I love hearing stories of how they saved their family heirlooms or how they saved money and a trip to the gunsmith.
@stealthmode2168
@stealthmode2168 3 года назад
@@veronder it's a good trait not to believe everything you see on the internet, it's also a good trait to use critical thinking.
@jayroller7054
@jayroller7054 5 месяцев назад
@@veronderYou’re overthinking this buddy. 😂
@PLAZALOT58
@PLAZALOT58 2 года назад
I’ve used this method for years. Works great. I’ve alway just used Rem gun oil but I like your idea of using motor oil, much cheaper and probably better lubrication. This 0000 steel wool method also works amazingly on chrome although I use chrome polish instead of oil.
@chuckjenkins4830
@chuckjenkins4830 3 года назад
Been doing this for years! First time that I actually saw someone else do it!! Subbed!
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 3 года назад
Thanks Chuck!
@avidhuntr
@avidhuntr 3 года назад
0000 steel wool is also great on the windshield of your automobile, learned this trick from a gentleman who detailed cars for a living. It removes all the road grime bugs you name it....gone. I've also used it for polishing my firearms. I wouldn't recommend this method on stainless barrels for polishing or cleaning
@kennkrizsanitz7820
@kennkrizsanitz7820 2 года назад
Just a FYI for bug mess on the truck paint use a dryer sheet wet works like magic, will need to wash off residual
@sethhahn4109
@sethhahn4109 5 лет назад
Thank you so much brutha I have a brand new 10 22 never fired sitting around has a bit of oxidation on it, had me worried
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 5 лет назад
Should come right off no problem. You would be amazed how many new guns ship out rusty
@markgoostree6334
@markgoostree6334 7 месяцев назад
I have used this method to clean up several older guns with great results. You, with this one video , may have saved thousands of guns from total destruction!! good job!
@Squarehead45
@Squarehead45 3 года назад
Been doing this since the 50s,,,only I used 3-in-1 oil.
@Monster11B
@Monster11B 3 года назад
Save the firearms... they matter
@stonescapelamps
@stonescapelamps 5 лет назад
Thanks for sharing your knowedge and experience!!!
@jimmymckay73
@jimmymckay73 2 года назад
Video you won't need any chemicals . Proceeds to break out a jug of oil . 😆 great tip though . I will add to break down the fjirearm as far as you are comfortable doing so . Rust gets everywhere .
@tomballard8877
@tomballard8877 3 года назад
Been doing that for years,also l have used heavy denim
@johng2880
@johng2880 3 года назад
Earthly denim will suffice as well.
@slastname7224
@slastname7224 3 года назад
What kind of oil?
@creativetradesman6833
@creativetradesman6833 3 года назад
Will this work with chromed pieces as well? I have a old H&R 12g break action that was my grandfathers. The chromed receiver is pretty crusty. I have left it alone because I didn’t know what would work without destroying it.
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 3 года назад
If it’s older than 40 ish years old it’s probably nickel plated, not chromed. It’s a fragile finish. If it’s flaking or bubbled nothing can be done for it except get the loose stuff off and hope the rest stays bonded. Steel wool and oil will take off the loose stuff but you might end up with a lot less nickel than what you started with.
@1EVILZ06
@1EVILZ06 3 года назад
I’ve got one a old old gun guy showed me. Works flawlessly.
@williamcollins4082
@williamcollins4082 3 года назад
Well ??? Carpenters Pencil ??? Worn out jeans ? Wool ?
@himalforrest749
@himalforrest749 4 года назад
I have a KK Wehrsprortgewehr i was about to use acid on and I wanted to do more research before I got started. I’m glad I did, thank you.
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 4 года назад
Happy to save another gun!
@sluggger
@sluggger 4 года назад
You say not to use CLP or Hoppe's because they don't dissolve rust. But my understanding is that both contain petroleum distillates which do dissolve rust (well, to a certain extent anyways - I know it won't break it down like certain acids, but it should penetrate and sop it up, or at least that's my understanding and I'd like your correction.) You say instead to use standard oil. What exactly is standard oil? Any motor oil? Does weight of the oil matter? Does synthetic/blend versus regular matter? Do additives matter? Also when you say not to use Hoppe's are you talking about Hoppe's #9 solvent, or Hoppe's oil? I know these are a lot of questions. Hope you don't mind answering. Thanks for the video.
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 4 года назад
You’re overthinking it. Hoppe’s refers to No.9, the solvent product of theirs everyone knows. That and CLP suck as lubricants and they also don’t remove rust like people think they do. Literally any oil that can provide film strength and separate the steel wool from the gun will work. Any grade of new motor oil, used motor oil, gear oil, transmission fluid, cooking oil, mineral oil, baby oil, molten bacon grease, etc. doesn’t matter what’s in the oil unless it specifically states on the package that it dissolves rust (like liquid wrench and some penetrating oils). Aerokroil is fine even though it says it loosens rust. All the oil does is prevent the fine steel wool from ever making contact with bare steel. Then you wipe it all off. It’s a whole other conversation what kind of ‘gun oil’ to put on after to prevent rust in the future.
@dougtaylor7724
@dougtaylor7724 2 года назад
Tried that on the wife. She looked 25 years younger. Big mistake. Ran off with a guy half my age. Just stick to guns with this.
@Tripp426
@Tripp426 6 лет назад
Wow! So simple, yet so effective. Thanks for sharing this very valuable info. I have an older GP WASR-10 that has some surface rust on it. I'll have to give this a try.
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 6 лет назад
Absolutely. My first MAK-90 was a rust bucket that I bought cheap because of that. Five minutes with oil and OOOO steel wool and it looked like a new gun. Sold it a few weeks later and doubled my money.
@عشقالأحجارالكريمة
Which oil out of all that you’ve used you do recommend?
@randomweirdo2701
@randomweirdo2701 2 года назад
This is great and all but it's only a cosmetic fix. The steel wool and oil trick only diminishes the appearance of the rust. Those rusty areas will be the first to start blooming red again the second the oil film breaks down and they're exposed to humid air. To actually fix red oxide rust you need to convert it to black oxide. This is done by thoroughly degreasing the area and exposing it to hot steam. The hot steam reacts with the red oxide we don't want and chemically converts it to the black oxide we do want. Ok, so how do we do this? For spot areas I place a wet rag over the rust and heat it with a heat gun. For a whole barreled action I fabricate a cone out of several pieces of poster board and tape that's long enough for the barreled action to sit above an electric hotplate and a pan of water and wide enough at the base to rest on the ground around the hotplate. I first make my cone then worry about trimming the ends flat. I run a string down the barrel and out the election port and secure with a small dowel in the manner of a toggle. The muzzle end of the string gets secured to another dowel that spans the opening at the narrow end of the cone. I place a rag over the top of the cone to hold in the steam and wrap the cone in a moving blanket to insulate it. It takes 10 to 20 cycles of steam followed by buffing with 0000 steel wool soaked in acetone to fully convert the rust. Steel wool comes fumed with oil to preserve it. This must be removed using the acetone. Any kind of oil including fingerprints will block the steam from converting the red oxide rust to black oxide gun finish. Be warned, the process looks like a trainwreck the whole time right up until you follow the instructions of this video to buff in the base coat of a good quality oil. Motor oil works best. Red rust will bloom everywhere that's exposed to steam. The conversion to black oxide takes place at the surface of the steel underneath the red bloom. The red bloom gets in the way which is why one needs to keep buffing it away with the degreased steel wool and acetone.
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 2 года назад
I would caution people that rust bluing as a method of rust removal can give the appearance of a bad refinish job and will hurt the value of collectible firearms far more than having a bare patch of steel. A 1st Gen SAA is worth far more brown and silver and pitted than pitted and black. There are plenty of suits of armor from the 1500’s that are bright silver steel and even though they may have rusted at some point, they don’t now because they are protected by wax. I always try to preserve guns for what they are rather than try and improve their condition. Guns that have rusted will not rust again if they are taken care of.
@randomweirdo2701
@randomweirdo2701 2 года назад
@@HughesEnterprises I should've prefaced. My suggestion was meant for modern guns only. If it's worth more than its simple utility then diy is out of the question inside and out.
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 2 года назад
@@randomweirdo2701 Absolutely modern or utility guns, go for it. But I’ve seen far too many collectible and semi-collectible guns ruined I thought I should mention it. I’ve seen cold blue, Cerakote, or rust bluing without draw filing out pits and re-engraving markings ruin guns like pre-lock Smiths, pre-64 Win lever guns, even foreign milsurps that aren’t super desirable today but any collector value they did have is gone.
@melgillham462
@melgillham462 2 года назад
I was blessed to learn this trick early on. My stepfather had a circa 1913 6.5x 55. Swedish mauser he brought back from over seas. Sadly the armorers disc was removed but I watched him clean it and he edjumacated me..😉 still have it, still a straight shooter. Took many deer in my youth with it.
@DeezCheez69
@DeezCheez69 2 года назад
Does it still have the full stock?
@melgillham462
@melgillham462 2 года назад
@@DeezCheez69 yessir.
@themergen1
@themergen1 2 года назад
I also oil my guns after cleaning. I put and leave oil on gun and loosely wrap in a rag and put it in it's case.
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 2 года назад
Surprisingly most people don’t oil the exterior of their guns. It’s really weird.
@catfish4110
@catfish4110 3 года назад
Thanks for letting us know how to make a firearm look like newI have been considering rebluing my childhood BB gun but thanks to you I’ll try it your way thanks thanks thanks
@spiffyspiferson1662
@spiffyspiferson1662 6 лет назад
Thanks a bunch, ill have to try this on my rusty 870.
@JohnSmith-py9fx
@JohnSmith-py9fx 4 года назад
Spiffy spiferson did it work?
@spiffyspiferson1662
@spiffyspiferson1662 3 года назад
It definitely helped. Depending on how bad the rust is I'd try it.
@RaineyPowerTraining
@RaineyPowerTraining 4 года назад
Thanks so much! I have an old Ruger Mark 3 I am going to do this on.
@95ZR580
@95ZR580 3 года назад
Leave the motor oil on it or wipe it down then use a gun oil?
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 3 года назад
Motor oil is my gun oil. Use it on everything from $100 single shot .22’s to SxS shotguns and Colt Pythons.
@tinos1975
@tinos1975 3 месяца назад
Worked great! Thank you for sharing.
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 3 месяца назад
Glad I was able to save another gun!
@johnlshilling1446
@johnlshilling1446 2 года назад
I'm 65, your average outdoorsman throughout my life, and I've always had a particular interest in "fixin' things".., from an early age. Before my teens, I discovered -- on my own -- how well steel wool worked at removing rust. 60+ years before I've come across anyone else that knew of its worth. Running in the wrong crowd? From some of the comments, it appears that steel wool is not a secret, but it's secret enough. 😉 Thanks for this video. As you mentioned, far too many firearms are ruined unnecessarily. Far too many -- of all types of things -- are ruined by an overabundance of desire, ignorance, and confidence.
@josiahwyncott7519
@josiahwyncott7519 2 года назад
The people using the angle grinder also get to vote in elections, hehehaaaaa.
@qz2026
@qz2026 3 года назад
I've cleaned hundreds of guns too. By far the absolute best for surface rust, like the rifle in your example, is the Big 45 Frontier Metal Cleaning (pad). This eliminates the rust without affecting the bluing of the metal. For significant pitting oil and 0000 steel wool is probably required but I wouldn't use motor oil - it stinks and is very difficult to remove. But you still have to be able to get into the pits to remove all the rust. That said, steel wool will create oxidation even if immersed for some time within oil or grease. You can't get around this buy using oil and steel wool together. You will always have traces of steel wool held in place against the steel by the oil. I can't tell you how many old weapons I found with active rust growing under grease decades old. For this reason, I rarely use steel wool or any metal that will corrode to remove rust from a rifle or pistol.
@Its_Melissa_Yall
@Its_Melissa_Yall 2 года назад
So what do you use then?
@qz2026
@qz2026 2 года назад
@@Its_Melissa_Yall Most of the time I use the Big 45 Frontier Metal Cleaning (pad). This will remove rust but not the bluing. If significant rust or what some people call patina, I boil the rusted part for an hour or so. Then use either steel wool or a carding wheel to remove the residue. Some metal will need multiple treatments. This method is the only sure way to bring back the original bluing
@Gruin
@Gruin Год назад
Bronze Wool, No Rust
@charlespratt8663
@charlespratt8663 3 года назад
I like brass wool myself. Very gentle on the finish.
@paulcallicoat7597
@paulcallicoat7597 2 года назад
And unlike the steel wool it won't get into your skin and hurt for days if you aren't wearing gloves which Hughes wasn't doing.He might have thick skin but I don't.Wear rubber chemical gloves and disassemble the gun before starting as you will want to get under the stock as it will have rust,too.
@dannyarrowheadstalker3054
@dannyarrowheadstalker3054 3 года назад
The ones that used an angle grinder are modern day cave men. Gun owners are usually pretty careful with their firearms.
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 3 года назад
You would be surprised of the horrible things people do to their guns...
@dannyarrowheadstalker3054
@dannyarrowheadstalker3054 3 года назад
@@HughesEnterprises I understand, some folks don't have an over abundance of common sense.
@Fast2Whls
@Fast2Whls Год назад
Great video. Simple techniques proven over time. People have been taking care of guns for about 3 centuries now without harsh chemicals.
@867diesel
@867diesel 3 года назад
the civil war sharps story broke my heart . how can people be so stupid ??? .... oh wait they had high school kids work on it
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 3 года назад
Poor guy got convinced by his son the high school metal shop taught gunsmithing.
@867diesel
@867diesel 3 года назад
@@HughesEnterprises so sad
@Lanther85
@Lanther85 4 года назад
I just used this method to clean up my dad's Taurus UltraLite that had rust on the sites, barrel, and cylinder. It worked great.
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 4 года назад
Nice! Pretty sure that’s a stainless gun? I’ve found once stainless rusts once it’s likely to rust in the exact same spot again. A very light coat of Renaissance wax or even Johnson’s paste wax if that’s all you can get will prevent rust again and will protect a carry gun longer than just oil.
@Silvermeow
@Silvermeow 4 года назад
@@HughesEnterprises what about petroleum jelly?
@fly_swatter_
@fly_swatter_ 4 года назад
@@Silvermeow petroleum jelly will collect every single speck of dust that passes it. If you are curious if I'm right or wrong...smear some imin a paper plate...let sit in the cleanest area of your home for 72 hours. Brace yourself for the results.
@Silvermeow
@Silvermeow 4 года назад
@@fly_swatter_ nice as long as it protects it
@fratersol
@fratersol 3 года назад
What about a dremel tool with the bronze wire bush extension? In the military we would also use oil and a copper penny which is 1909 to 1982 pennies. Some 82 are zinc so weigh it and make sure it weighs 3.1. The zinc penny will weigh 2.5. The copper pennies are 95 percent copper compared to less than 2% on newer pennies.
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 3 года назад
Way too abrasive with the Dremel and too easy to take off the blue. Penny works but will take forever on a whole gun.
@raider762
@raider762 4 года назад
I have some boom sticks to try this on...
@scotttyger4856
@scotttyger4856 10 месяцев назад
Got to 1:13. I didn't click on this for old man stories.
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 10 месяцев назад
30 going on 65
@joshmichiels9904
@joshmichiels9904 3 года назад
I've been using this method for years. People are always amazed at how I make their guns look in a matter of minutes right before their eyes.
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 3 года назад
Thanks for watching! I’m amazed how many people didn’t know to do this.
@akgriffin
@akgriffin 3 года назад
clr will remove the blueing off of the gun. I have to buy a new bcg for my ar now.
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 3 года назад
Yep takes the rust right off as advertised! Sucks you need a new one now.
@kenadams3951
@kenadams3951 5 лет назад
the good old day's we worked on guns in MR MILLER'S MACHINE SHOP. OVERLEA HIGH. 1978....
@racistinfidel5118
@racistinfidel5118 2 года назад
This is basically a type of "rust blueing," a very old method of bluing firearms.
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 2 года назад
Yep, only difference is you don’t boil the parts before carding off the rust.
@chrisfangeat6651
@chrisfangeat6651 3 года назад
Copper penny and oil works good, also brass or bronze wool and oil work great
@tomryan9616
@tomryan9616 4 года назад
I have a new redhead gun safe with 2 silica moisture absorbers and a heater. My bolts on my rifles got discolored and any brass in the safe also. The humidity is 32% in the room the safe is in and humidity in the safe is 28%. I’ve read online we’re the drywall and glue for the carpet react. If you have a fix I would appreciate it. Thanks
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 4 года назад
Should have bought a better safe like a Brown. There can be A LOT of moisture trapped in cheap safe drywall that will steam your guns like broccoli if there is ever a house fire. They won’t burn but there won’t be much that isn’t destroyed. Important paperwork included. Also if you have guns with wood stocks, some moisture in the air is better than none at all otherwise the wood can shrink and crack over time. Like if your house is 50% humidity, outside is on average 75%, and you keep the safe at 15%, that can cause problems. My house/safe is usually over 50%+ humidity and I don’t have rust issues unless I handle the guns and don’t wipe them down afterwards. But you’ve got the safe so what do you do? It may take a very long time for any leaching moisture or chemicals to go away. Clean all your guns thoroughly and apply a light coat of Renaissance Wax to all surfaces (except the bolt face and the bore- those get light coat of oil then clean patch dry). For added protection keep them in a silicone treated gun sock. Cabelas sells those by the six pack. Ammo, store it in milspec cans with good rubber seals with their own drier packs inside. Or Plano ammo boxes again with rubber seals and drier packs. Don’t wax the ammo.
@michaelhowell8489
@michaelhowell8489 3 года назад
Thanks for getting it RIGHT! (Ex-USCG Armourer)👍👁👁🇺🇸
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 3 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@sage5757
@sage5757 4 года назад
Question what type of oil?
@sage5757
@sage5757 4 года назад
He say's use any oil including gun oil but at the end says dont use clp or hoppes can anyone suggest there favorite oil?
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 4 года назад
Sage CLP and Hoppe’s aren’t oils they’re cleaners. Motor oil, transmission fluid, cooking oil, WD-40, anything that’s an oil that doesn’t say it removes rust as a feature will work fine. Whatever you use you want lots of it and you want it slick because the oil is providing the barrier so the steel wool doesn’t scratch the finish. CLP/Hoppes only provide minimal lubrication and will allow the wool to scratch the gun.
@randomidiot8142
@randomidiot8142 3 года назад
For some reason I thought boiling was the way to go to convert the red rust to black rust.
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 3 года назад
That works, but boiling a 30” shotgun barrel is not fast or easy and still requires you to card off the excess rust with steel wool.
@rhpicayune
@rhpicayune 3 года назад
I used an angle grinder to shine up and modify my fathers prized African safari rifles and British double rifles. I can’t wait to see the joy on his face when he sees them 😀
@NordPrecision
@NordPrecision 4 года назад
Does this work on chemical blueing?
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 4 года назад
It works on all factory firearm finishes. DIY bluing out of a bottle is very soft and can be removed with this process. However this may be desirable as building up 3-5 thin layers of cold blue will give a stronger darker finish. Brownells recommends this with their Oxpho-Blue products. If the gun is very old or high end it may have nitre blued or strawed parts and care must be taken to not remove that very thin finish.
@clist9406
@clist9406 3 года назад
I remove rust with a water tank with sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) electrolysis few hours at 11 volts rust is gone
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 3 года назад
But your finish will also be gone! Might get lucky with some very strong finishes, but traditional blues on old guns will be stripped off just as easily as the red rust.
@hananas2
@hananas2 4 года назад
I'm not a gun guy but I'm gonna see how well this works on classic bicycles where I wanna keep the paint but get rid of the rust
@ferrallderrall6588
@ferrallderrall6588 2 года назад
Had a outdoor smoker and a bbq with no cover that both started getting pretty rusty ,both seemed rejuvenated with a paint brush and used canola, still seem ok after a couple more seasons
@imclcinforzahorizon8951
@imclcinforzahorizon8951 20 дней назад
Sir, that wasn't a Rusty Rifle 😁
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 20 дней назад
@@imclcinforzahorizon8951 nope, it was a rusty shotgun!
@aqualust5016
@aqualust5016 4 года назад
I have a 308 rifle that may have some rust inside the bore, what tool do I use to clean the interior of the bore?
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 4 года назад
Try just a bronze bore brush soaked in oil first, chances are that’ll take care of it. A lot of times dust or unburned powder can look like corrosion. Make full passes of the bore starting from the chamber side. Don’t stop halfway or try to scrub. 5-10 passes should do. Unless you’ve been shooting really old surplus corrosive ammo all your problems will be resolved with just the .308” bronze bore brush. Of course clean dry patches or snake afterwards to get the oil out of the bore. Should shoot just fine afterwards. If you shot old military corrosive ammo didn’t clean it and the bore is rusted, more aggressive methods are necessary.
@aqualust5016
@aqualust5016 4 года назад
Hughes Enterprises ok I’ll give that a try. I made the mistake of assuming my gun case that got wet during last hunting season had dried out all the way and it looks pretty bad. It’s mostly the barrel surface so the bore may be in pretty good shape. Thanks HE.
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 4 года назад
Aqualust No problem. Despite what you might read or hear in a gun shop, even if the bore is pitted from corrosion once rust is removed, the gun will more than likely shoot exactly the same. I’ve got a sewer pipe bore mosin that’ll do an honest 1.5” 10 shot group at 100 yards. Hope the cleanup works for you!
@aqualust5016
@aqualust5016 4 года назад
Hughes Enterprises thanks sir I’ll let you know how it goes.
@aqualust5016
@aqualust5016 4 года назад
Hughes Enterprises WOW I thought the barrel was pitted for sure. Everything looks brand new, even tried it on my 10/22 from the 80’s and it took almost all the rust off. Thanks for the help, made both my rifles look great 👍🏻
@eliwallace1990
@eliwallace1990 3 года назад
You just saved my 105 year old gun thanks I was so scared
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 3 года назад
Nice! Another old gun saved from a wall hanger or parts!
@joet-sk4sw
@joet-sk4sw 5 лет назад
Got a good price on a old m6 scout ,it has some rust specs on barrel,gonna try this, thanks
@Asstazztic
@Asstazztic 4 года назад
joe 9990 t how’d it go?
@kyleleffew7287
@kyleleffew7287 3 года назад
Is a Brillo pad with tons of oil okay to use? If I lightly scrub with it?
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 3 года назад
No way. Brillo is way too coarse and will scratch the finish.
@kyleleffew7287
@kyleleffew7287 3 года назад
@@HughesEnterprises gotcha
@TheSonsOfSimon
@TheSonsOfSimon 4 года назад
Thank you! This really helped me understand the concept. I have always been told not to use steel wool (no matter the coarseness), because it is steel, and will damage the steel upon which is lapped. I had been told to use a brass/bronze brush due to the softer steel. I had heard that lubrication should used, but I had never been told that gun lubricants were inadequate (though it does make sense).
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 4 года назад
Most gun lubricants are just overpriced repackaged automotive lubricants or various combinations of common solvents. The only time OOOO steel wool will hurt the finish is if you’re rubbing too hard or not using oil. I’ve even used a very coarse brillo pad once and did not scratch the finish when applying little to no pressure and just letting the wool cut the rust and suspend it in the oil. I don’t like bronze/brass wool because it doesn’t cut the rust as well and you have to clean bronze fouling off with a solvent when finished.
@supressorgrid
@supressorgrid 4 года назад
Steel wool is much softer than gun steel 0000 will not harm bluing.
@exitar1
@exitar1 2 года назад
Use mineral oil
@alexisJonius
@alexisJonius 4 года назад
Can you remove in-barrel rust?
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 4 года назад
Try using two or three bronze bore brushes and oil. If that doesn’t work you can wrap the brush in OOOO steel wool. Just understand once you use the steel wool you will be risking serious damage to the sharpness of the rifling and you will remove the rust and increase safety, but may significantly decrease accuracy. Go slow and check for results.
@alexisJonius
@alexisJonius 4 года назад
@@HughesEnterprises thank you :D Ill be honest, i didnt expect a response on a video this old
@nmoran2046
@nmoran2046 2 года назад
Use that same stuff for cleaning windows dry it 0000 One of my favourite things for cleaning polishing stainless you can use it for all kinds of things that stuff is fantastic
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 2 года назад
Good fire starter too! Touch a 9V battery to it and blow on it and you get molten burning iron.
@BigATB
@BigATB 6 лет назад
I'm particularly fond of two methods. For light surface rust, I do what the military arsenals did when guns came in rusty. STEAM! It's the same process as slow rust bluing. Gently brush away any grime or rust flakes, degrease, and hang in a PVC pipe hooked up to a pressure cooker for the steam. The Fe2O3 is converted to FeO, card off the black dust, and it perfectly matches the pre-existing finish on many early arms. The other is a process used by museum curators and archaeologist to neutralize and remove rust from priceless artifacts: ELECTROLYSIS. 12v at 500-1200mA will pull off the rust and convert wants left to FeO, very efficient.
@pyrogothica3906
@pyrogothica3906 5 лет назад
I know this is an old comment but could you perhaps elaborate on the process (the steam one) a bit more? I have a 1942 no1 mk3 smle and was wondering if this process would work for it.
@kylefarris4686
@kylefarris4686 5 лет назад
@@pyrogothica3906 midway USA has a gunsmithing video on how to rust blue a gun. They use a homemade steam chamber and card off the dust.
@jaychapman6448
@jaychapman6448 5 лет назад
Hadn't thought of it for a barrel but I've used electrolysis to take care of badly rusted cast iron frying pans - works very well and there are lots of videos on how to do it. One thing I found is that some battery chargers will not produce current unless there is the right load in the circuit so I had to hook the charger to an old battery with the battery connected to the cast iron.
@dalef7291
@dalef7291 3 года назад
Transmission fluid works better!
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 3 года назад
ATF is great gun oil!
@tptexan6290
@tptexan6290 3 года назад
Thank you. I will try this on an old BB gun setting out in the garage
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 3 года назад
Let me know how it turns out!
@vixnix2812
@vixnix2812 3 года назад
And here we see a extremely bad bit of advice from a “expert” cloth or burlap maybe a toothbrush some oil and time... but yah know go ahead do what he recommends and take that steel wool to your gun and fuck it up. Put grooves in the surfaces, damage that coating that keeps rust from penetrating beyond the finish. To many times iv seen a perfectly functional firearm fucked up by experienced experts, claiming to have a simple trick for rust. Here’s a simple trick a rag a can of oil time and effort!
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 3 года назад
You referring to your own comment because it’s obvious you don’t know anything about gun finishes? 0000 steel wool and oil is the final finishing step on a fine rust blue. Doesn’t hurt the gun one bit.
@vixnix2812
@vixnix2812 3 года назад
@@HughesEnterprises ah yes ye ole you don’t know anything rebuttal, let’s face it you got caught spreading bad advice and now your pissy you got caught. It’s okay I’ll just listen to the manufacturer and historians like Ian and a few others with credentials to back their information.
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 3 года назад
Is Larry Potterfield a hack? Or the gunsmiths at Numrich Arms? Or the Brownells gunsmith tech line? Because they all recommend steel wool and oil. I’ve used steel wool on $40,000 Beretta shotguns right in front of the owner to their amazement the rust was gone and the finish left was perfect. You mentioned Ian. I’m assuming from FW. I sent him one of my rifles to do a video on a Winchester 1895. It got covered in water and mud. It got rusty. Guess what he used to clean the rust! BTW- what is this mystical coating that protects the blue from rust that the steel wool supposedly removes? Are you talking about oil? Because no regular production gun maker uses anything but cheap machine oil to protect gun finishes.
@vixnix2812
@vixnix2812 3 года назад
Since your such a experienced individual I would expect you to be familiar with all finishes used.... as for your claim that Ian features one of your weapons can you give the exact video to back your claim? Asto your rebuttal that it’s just cheap machine oil.... really? So the weather coating used by S&W is just machine oil huh? Not poly carbonate weather coating? Or the galvanized weather coatings? You go ahead and spread your “tips”. I’ll stay trusting the manufacturer and people who restore weapons. You go ahead and keep recommending damaging and destructive “tips” I’ll just rest assured I know what I’m doing after 25+ years of being a armory rat
@bcabmac
@bcabmac 3 года назад
Been doing just this all my life to my guns and for restoration. When it comes to old bluing, you really have to use alot of finesse. And he's right about using brass or bronze mini brushes for deep or heavy rust, but they must be fine soft bristle, or it will lift bluing or other finishes around the edge of the pin holes of the rust pits. I often use wd40 and oil mix on very old bluing in delicate areas. Make sure you change to a new pad frequently as you bring the rust down. Or the grit will cut micro abrasion marks in otherwise good save able bluing. On shotgun barrels you can use a solid older copper penny and gently rub back and forth in lines to knock down heavy rust and preserve bluing, but again, lots of finesse and oil. The softer copper is the trick. But learn first on a less valuable shotgun before attempting saving a valuable one and hone your skill. Good luck. Great advise video here. He probably just helped save thousands of historic guns by posting this.
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 3 года назад
Finally someone who understands what I’m trying to do!!! Great tips.
@ace-kz9id
@ace-kz9id 4 года назад
I will be trying this out on my Remington model 31 soon in so glad to see there is somthing I can do to save my super old gun I inherited. I will update this after I try it
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 4 года назад
Keep me posted. I love those old shotguns. It would be a shame for it to be relegated as a wall hanger, or worse, parts.
@ace-kz9id
@ace-kz9id 4 года назад
@@HughesEnterprises I haven't done it yet but I do want to inform you it does fire but sadly a small part of the stock broke off when I tested it. It's a fairly small piece so I can live it with. On a side note do you have any advice on how to clean the inside of the gun. Because the inside is fairly clean outside of 50-60 year old gun that had been in there. And I dont own a gunsmith kit so I cant remove the pins Only reason I haven't tried cleankng the rust off is in waiting on Amazon to deliver my OOOO steel wool.
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 4 года назад
ace142014 Save that piece that broke off it can be glued back on. I’m guessing the stock was kinda loose? The action will batter into the wrist of the stock and break it. There is a product called Gunscrubber that comes in a spray can. Take off the stock and hose down the inside. Do it outside. Try to scrub what you can get to with a toothbrush. Then re-oil what you can get to anywhere parts move. And of course re-oil the outside to prevent further rust.
@ace-kz9id
@ace-kz9id 4 года назад
@@HughesEnterprises the little bit that broke was weirdly was right by the bottom side of the recoil pad at it went flying so I could only find some of the wood that broke. And honestly I dont think with this model I can remove the stock without removing a pen. I will say thanks for being very helpful because I havent been able to find nothing about this online honestly. Also one more maybe dum question but do all all old shotguns kick like a 12 gauge. This gun has a ton of recoil and is much louder compared to the single shot 20 gauge I grew up shooting (again this is a 20 gauge) so I am just am curious
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 4 года назад
ace142014 The toe of the stock which is the piece you’re describing is pretty common to see broken especially if the gun has been dropped before. No big deal. If you remove the two screws in the butt pad/plate and take it off there will likely be a deep hole and at the bottom a screw that holds the stock in place. If the stock is tight and doesn’t wobble, don’t take it off, but if it’s even a little loose that screw needs to be fastened or you risk damaging the stock more. You’ll need a very long screwdriver. Yep, all 12 gauge manually operated guns will hit you the same. Lighter guns hit harder than heavier guns. Hard plastic butt pads definitely don’t help. If you’ve got a rubber pad, it’ll take most of the pain out of it. But you’ve still got to pull the gun tight into your shoulder so it pushes your whole upper body. If it’s up at your shoulder but you’re not pulling it in, you’re giving it a chance to get up to speed and punch you in the collar bone. Also leaning forward a bit into the gun will help. But if that doesn’t help, you’ve discovered why 20 and 28 gauge shotguns are so popular.
@Leif1963
@Leif1963 3 года назад
Let me add that if you have serious surface rust to clean- lets assume its not in the action or bore...BEGIN Cleaning with clear water, after disassembling. This is the first step to always take with anything more than minor surface rust. Wiping away the obvious build-up then dry thoroughly before taking the steps the video gives. Also you can use old fashioned Crest tooth paste as a make do lapping compound if you need to do the job faster than waiting for the internet to deliver- yes it will be minty fresh too! this will help eliminate minor surface structures that will only collect moisture and dust and rust again. Be careful not to be over zealous and remove good blueing. I have never lapped a bore but I suspect this would work well.
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