Gyeon Q2 Mohs Coating Review - ESOTERIC Car Care 

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Do you think this is too much for someone to tackle on a new vehicle who has never even waxed before?

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ESOTERIC - Fine Auto Finishing I will get those pics to you as soon as I am done!

When do I use gyeon Q2 moths coating after I clay - polish - glaze- seal and was?

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Thank you, and please be sure to let us know how we can help you out! We have a lot of Gyeon videos, so please be sure to watch them as well as there are some spectacular maintenance products in the line!

Thank you Clint!

Todd those red microfibre towels are the nicest I ever used. Can i get them here in Australia?

Thank you Steve. Yes, we put a lot of effort and investment into these educational videos, and all of the purchases help finance them. So given that, we appreciate the fact that you wish to support our store so that we can continue to develop more educational material. To answer your questions: 1. "Hardness" is one of the most overhyped aspects of coatings today. No coating is going to be that hard to where it can't be marred by improper washing and drying methods. In our opinion, the biggest benefits of coatings are self-cleaning characteristics, and long-lasting shine. 2. That is called the Syncro kit. Skin is only available in that kit. You should watch our video on that: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-98NoaubSqVs.html. You should also watch our video on how to properly maintain a coated vehicle as it talks specifically about what to use, and what NOT to use on coatings. This topic is also highly misunderstood, and mis-represented in the detailing space. Most people are preaching to buy more / layer more products. We're the only ones telling people to actually stop buying more products to put on top of coatings! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gTZF1nHoAIg.html 3. Unless it's a film like STEK that has an incredible hydrophobic layer built-in, you can pretty much use coatings on film just as you would paint. Kamikaze-Collection makes a coating designed specifically for film, and it's called Film Surface Coat: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-d1dauU3WhTQ.html

Thank you Ben...we try our best to bring you the important information without the fluff or the hype. As for your question about Cure, and without trying to pretend to be a chemist, I would call it more of a coating-lite than a sealant or wax-type product. We even recommend diluting Cure 50/50 as it makes it easier to use, and you can literally make it part of every wash process. And no, you do not need to throw away towels as it won't harden them. I hope this helps!

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24h. You can drive in 24h. Just dont wash it for a week.

MOHS is the top of the offerings, and it doesn't compete side to side with One.

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ESOTERIC - Fine Auto Finishing You're welcome too, always enjoy watching this channel :)

Thanks Chris. You could go with either Mohs, or with Gyeon Trim. Both will work well, with Mohs being the more premium of the two.

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Thank you Rich! We typically use Gyeon Trim on head and tail lamps, but you could also use Mohs without any problems.

No you do not. Please watch the following video for more information on that subject. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gTZF1nHoAIg.html

No problems with bonding at all...

If your coating is relatively fresh, I'd just recommend adding a product designed for maintaining coated vehicles. Check out this video to give you some more insight on what / what not to use on it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gTZF1nHoAIg.html

It's more of a work-ability issue than a bonding issue. With higher humidity, most coatings may become a bit finicky, and they need to be removed much more quickly than in an air conditioned environment. So if you're working in high humidity, just plan to apply to smaller sections, and remove more quickly. I hope this helps.

It's just a part of Syncro and is not sold separately.

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Sure you could...but do you really want to risk damaging the next car just to save a few bucks for a few towels?

That's handled directly through the manufacturers. But you also need to ask yourself a question on why you would need to be "certified". Don't get me wrong...there's nothing wrong with that. But too many detailers think they need some kind of certification to get customers, and that's simply not the case. Customers come to you because of your qualifications, skills, and reputation, and not because they are certified by a manufacturer. If you simply want to learn a lot more about coating, how to sell it, how to apply it, etc, we do have a 1-day coating course that we offer. www.esotericcarcare.com/ceramic-coating-training-1-day-course/

@@Esotericdetail I agree my main reason of getting certified is mainly for me to have unrestricted access to purchasing the ceramic coatings which require a license to apply but the one day course you provide sounds like a great start .

Correct...you'll want to completely remove the Cancoat before trying to apply a coating.

ESOTERIC , thank you for the information.

I wouldn't. Gyeon is very specific about using a minimum of 2 layers of MOHS.

@@Esotericdetail many thanks for getting back to me much appreciated. I'm based in Capetown thanks for the prompt reply and you reckon the two layers will give 2-3 years protection.

Ultimately it depends on the polish you're using, but for the most part, Prep is all you need. Thanks.

@@Esotericdetail Thanks :-)

Well, nobody missed Synchro because as of now, the product hasn't been released to market yet. As for your question, we do not layer any different types of Gyeon coatings unless they're designed together. Given their chemical makeups, I don't think they'd play well together.

If it's a coating that has been on the surface for a year or so, then it shouldn't be a problem. If it's relatively fresh, there's no way of knowing if there are any potential compatibility issues until you try it.

Mohs+ has yet another layer of coating that you can't get with the Mohs. Mohs+ comes with two different coatings, both sharing Mohs as a base.

30ML would be enough. Skin is only sold as part of the Syncro kit. You would only need to maintain it with Cure...nothing else on top!

For the hardness level and chemical resistance, I'd probably go with the Mohs. Do 2 coats of Mohs, and top it with Cancoat...brilliant!

Joseph Brightenstine I think MOHS would be an excellent choice; applied to a vehicle at work last February, holding up great, looks fantastic even though very little post application attention given to vehicle. Bright red paint is always looking excellent!

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Mohs is the same base coating that is found in Mohs+ and DuraBead. Those two products are only available to Gyeon Certified Detailers.

Do it at your own risk. To us, it's not worth it...cost of doing business.

ESOTERIC Thanks Todd. Thought so.

If it still looks good, with no water spots, then you're good to go!

You can use it on wheels, but not on glass. For that application, use Gyeon View!

The biggest part would be to make sure there's nothing on the surface before coating...no residues of waxes, sealants, quick detailers, etc. If you're happy with the paint work, then clean it, hit it with Gyeon Prep, and coat!

Not on trim...use Gyeon Trim for that! All other areas OK. Apply, let it set for about 30 seconds, then wipe off. I hope this helps!

ESOTERIC - Fine Auto Finishing increrible,fast reply! You are the best !!

The temperature post-coating doesn't really matter. I wouldn't put a freshly coated car out in the extreme cold, but otherwise you should be good to go.

No we do not...

You can if you wish, but it is not necessary. If you get a little on the rubber / trim, just wipe it off right away. Yes, it's fine to use on badges and plastic chrome grills.

It's all dependent on your wash / dry process and media. Be sure to watch both of our videos on how to wash and dry, as well as our how to maintain a coated vehicle.

ESOTERIC - Fine Auto Finishing ok so assuming car is washed carefully with the correct methods? Would be disheartening to follow all of the proper maintenance procedures and STILL end up with swirls/defects a year later and not be able to correct it without removing coating and another trip back to the detailer who applied it.

I followed precisely, then yes...you should still have an absolutely fantastic looking car after a year or two. Keep in mind that you'll have a bump/bruise - scrape/scuff here and there from normal use after a few years, but following the proper procedures should make all of the difference in the world.

I'd give it a few months, unless the painter cured the paint in an IR booth. If that's the case, you should be fine to coat it within a few weeks.

Thanks Todd. Will do.

Andy...Mohs is not known for tight water beading like other coatings. It's a hard coating with a high level of chemical resistance. The beading will come from Cure as you maintain it.

While the protection will remain beading will indeed decrease. Topping it back off with something like Cure is a good idea.

Thanks for taking time to reply :-) The one thing I am confused over though is that I have paid for the dealer only mohs PLUS which on the Gyeon website is advertised as having really top hydrophobic properties. Only the durabead is advertised as being slightly superior. I would understand if it was base mohs but I always assumed the extra layer that was applied with mohs plus is what gave the extra hydrophobic protection and that it would have lasted longer than 3 months. Especially when consumer grade booster is advertised as having up to 12 months. I keep using cure (after every wash actually) and I may invest in some cancoat to give it a bit extra durability, I’ve been put off by booster a little by quite a few negative user reviews. Again, thanks for your help and advice

Thanks for the questions Andy. This adds a little insight to the product for us considering a purchase.

You can't go wrong either way. With Miyabi, you can lay down just one coat, or go with two for a little extra looks and durability. With Mohs, you have to do 2 coats. What color car?

@@Esotericdetail it's called atomic silver (grey). Lexus GS F. Did the paint correction 6 months ago, have just applied sealant/wax.

You can do that, just make sure you're not driving it in between.

Thanks!

You don't have to clay and polish before any type of paint. It's just that you'll maximize the looks that way. With a brand new car, in most cases you can simply do a chemical decontamination first (Gyeon Iron), then when rinsed and dried you can go straight into coating application.

Thanks for the fast response

I would go with Mohs+!

​@@Esotericdetail Thanks a lot for a quick reply! Much appreciated! Which advantages Mohs+ holds over DuraFlex in that situation? Asking out of curiousity, I have already told them to do Mohs+ as soon as I've seen your reply

MTM Hydro...

Usually you will use 30ml or less for 2 coats on an average size car (not including wheels).

If it's a 50ml bottle, you should be able to get 2 coats each on 2 small cars.

No, you do not.

Thanks!

Be sure to watch our video on how to wash and maintain a coated car...we talk about how waxes, quick detailers, etc are NOT recommended. Use a product specifically designed for coatings, such as Cure.

It can be used on it, but instead I'd recommend using Kamikaze Film Surface Coat that is designed specifically for paint protection film. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-d1dauU3WhTQ.html

Oh ok sweet would you then suggest using Mohs for the painted surfaces or one of the kamikaze products so there all the same?

That would be considered a normal market value for the service!

For that you should be using Gyeon Trim. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3ROqv5hb9cM.html

Yes, you can apply on top of PPF.

You'd need to contact Gyeon USA for that.

Incorrect. In some cases, the coating will start to reject itself after so much of it. You quickly get to diminishing returns to the point where you don't gain durability, hardness, etc...you're only spending more money and time.

Yes, you can use it on chrome and metal. I'd wait at least a few hours after your final coat of Mohs before applying Booster!

Thanks!!! I will be jumping over to Esoteric's website to grab some supplies for my new 115th Anniversary edition Harley! Referred from Obsessed Garage

I would apply Gyeon View to it...it's designed specifically for glass. If the plastic hood vents are painted, then just use your regular paint coating. If it's unfinished plastic, then use Gyeon Trim.

ESOTERIC - Fine Auto Finishing Got it thanks

Yes...here you go! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3ROqv5hb9cM.html

Either works, but a few coats of MOHS would be more durable.

You'll start to notice a drop-off in hydrophobic properties and self-cleaning as well. Usually by the 2 year mark, you also have some other bumps and bruises that the paint has endured, and it would need to be re-polished and re-applied at that time. There's no magical "signs" that it's time to re-apply.

By polishing it, you will remove it...

You'd have to strip off any sealant and / or wax before you can apply a coating.

Not recommended...see the following video for more information on that subject: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gTZF1nHoAIg.html

Dynamic Mobile Audio no kidding! It's out of hand

I'd stick to using something that is developed by an actual coating company. You should also watch our video on how properly maintain a coated vehicle!

Use Gyeon Prep...multiple times if you have relatively fresh wax or sealant on it.

Thank you!

Yes you can!

I wouldn't. I would probably use Gyeon CanCoat on top of Mohs.