Not underage if they're the same age Not sexual if there's nothing sexual involved just normal assault at the very most Don't happen to people outside of our own people and only 5% try this thing anyway. So you're talkin out your arse
@@jimmyboynottknown7713 We have a horse fair that draws a lot of travellers each year. We also have a permanent travellers site. It’s a small town and “grabbing” was not uncommon on nights out. There are plenty of reports of girls under 16 being assaulted. How would you feel if that was your child, sister or wife?
@@chrisb4009 you seem to be putting a lot of this upon the female gender species . change the sexes round an you probably wouldn't have even commented .
@@jimmyboynottknown7713 Is this the best justification you can come up with? It’s OK that travellers descend on your village assault men and “grab” women because men wouldn’t mind if they did it to them? Men tend to be sexually assaulted less frequently than women and are generally able to fight off a typically smaller/physically weaker women.
@@jimmyboynottknown7713 Do you think the fact it’s normal for 16 year old girls to get married skews your view in society? The fact the travelling community seems to be OK with such young girls getting married.
@Paul Bunyan The question? You’re seriously asking me why a guy turned his head a bit while standing in the street? Are you that slow? Turning your head isn’t an indication that a crime is about to take place mate.
They have no respect for anybody outside there community & the women in there community. Yet the minute you show them any disrespect, it's all cries of discrimination or 5 of them turning up at your door.
'Outside THEIR community......'. Why do so many people not understand THEIR/THERE/THEY'RE? It's so simple.. We're talking basic primary school English here, not rocket science.
@@heiltd1286 THEIR/THERE/THEY'RE it's so........SIMPLY?! 😂😂 Maybe you should proof read your own comments, before giving out grand lectures in the ol' queen's English. Ya neek 😜 sic
That's the funny thing. Even when they feel "disrespected or discriminated". They never turn up alone. To scared maybe. Always with their cousins and brothers
@@narcissus79I’ve found them they don’t even act like travellers my best friend is one and her and her whole family are the nicest people you could get you would even think they were travellers there are good ones out there 🙏🙏
I don’t care how anyone tries to justify this by calling it a ‘tradition’ it’s absolutely fucking disgusting. It’s sexual harassment. Plain and simple.
@Traveller Myths No they don’t clearly know each other ffs. Stop defending them just because you’re a gypsy. Assault is still assault whether you know someone or not. If someone got raped or killed, the perpetrator saying “well I knew them” wouldn’t be an adequate defence and the same rules would apply here. Grab : verb. 1 : to take or seize by or as if by a sudden motion or grasp grab up an ax grabbed the opportunity grab attention. You are blind.
@Traveller Myths I live in England and here we don’t allow shit like this to happen. If someone is seen grabbing girls like this then we would confront them and ask if the girls are okay. I don’t know for sure that they don’t know each other, but in this scenario if you witness this it’s always best to make sure and check if the person needs help. You literally said “they clearly know each other” so you’re the one making assumptions and presenting them as fact. How would you feel if you just walked past this and did nothing because you seemingly assume that everyone knows each other and is good hearted, and later found out they got raped or killed? You have absolutely no evidence to suggest they know each other and even if they did, it’s inappropriate. Do you feel up all your friends like that?
@Traveller Myths hitting and crying are two different things, what do they have to do with grabbing someone? He used his hands to grab her and take her away, I’m not sure why you are so offended by this verb. Did you go to school? I’ve never known any adult who doesn’t know what the word ‘grab’ means before
@@UserName-br5zu u a idiot wats to say that they aren’t going out the person videoing was inside use gorjas always assume the worst of travlers fucking colyers always assuming the worst for travlers but when use do it it’s totally different nout gets mentioned but cause a travler might or might not done it everyone goes mad fuck clowns
It's a common enough sight if you live anywhere en route to Appleby horse fair, but it's usually your lawn mower, bicycle, garden tools etc that get grabbed.
And my clothes drying machine out of shed. A neighbour saw them parked outside on horse and carriage and saw everything. He called police and the travellers got caught halfway down street and had to return it. I slept through the whole thing and woke up to my dad arguing with them outside my window. I was having an afternoon nap and my dad came home from work as they returned it and where getting arrested 😂 The travellers even tried saying that they knocked on the door and I told them they could help themselves to whatever they wanted 😂
Traveller friendly name for sexual assault, class it as a cultural identity thing and the law then become too scared to do anything about it incase of racial discrimination.
@@nifty512 they genuinely aren't. A study of traveller genetics has shown they are ethnically Irish in the same capacity as the rest of the wider Irish Population. What is seen is a genetic restriction arising roughly four centuries ago putting their origins at around the time of the Cromwellian Conquest of Ireland where many Irish Catholics were removed from their lands. It seems a culture of landless itinerants arose, and their descendants continued a landless lifestyle becoming strangers to the rest of Irish Society forming secretive and criminally versatile strategies in order to live off polite society in a form of hostile parasitism. Cromwell isn't a popular historical figure here in Ireland, and I often find myself cursing him more over the theft of my lawnmower when the horse fair comes to town ,than I do for the genocidal tenacity he aimed at my ancestors in the mid 17th Century.
@Stephen Lindsay indeed in this clip. I was referring to the term 'grabbing' in the title. Grabbing someone is a physical action not harrasment but point taken this clip seems to be more harrasment if anything. I'm not against or anti traveller in general, live and let live is my motto, however I am against actions by any religion or culture that either breaks laws or inflicts harrasment or harm under the cover of religious or cultural freedoms, anyone that does needs those feedoms removed.
I'm a Irish traveller and I want to say this so called grabbing is shocking and it's never been our way as a culture we are far from perfect but this carryon is just beyond awful and I can't for the life off me figure out when this became a thing I know that if a fella came over to me and done that he would be taking a trip to the hospital it angers me so much that alot off travellers have started to do this i mean we have a bad enough name and reputation and things like this is just making it worse . If there is any country People reading this I want you to no that this so called grabbing thing is not tradition and I know for a fact that it's not accepted with alot of travellers and I genuinely don't know who started this or how it became something some travellers do it's so disappointing
It's not just the grabbing us country folk don't like, it's the scams, and generally everything you do is just horrible or has a negative impact. Yous don't give a toss about people in any situation, not even for your own. I cannot think of one kind encounter I've had with a traveller and I've not seen or heard one. They make a total mockery of boxing shows when their boys get beat fair and square and bully the refs n judges every single show and cause total mayhem. You've only got yourselves to blame for being hated but you will carry on regardless not giving a shit.
@@chrisjohnston5411 there is much more to the behaviour of the travellers and the relationship we all have now. Up until the war, travellers were valued highly. They did the work that the eastern Europeans now do. They had stopping places they had used for 100s of years, which were slowly blocked up. During the war, the travellers tried to continue to live the life they always did... however, the government decided they wanted the men folk for military conscript and began arresting them and sending them to war by force... in order to do that with public support, a campaign was started about how bad they were and all indiscretions focused upon publicly. The families of kidnapped men were left without the head of their family. Post war, the attitude toward these "shirkers" remained, the stopping places were gone meaning they had to pull up where they could. The government convinced the gypsy community to buy up land (cr@p land that no one else wanted...) so they could park up and so families put together savings to do so... this allowed councils to take advantage of the post war income from gypsys buying up this land. Once a sizable sale purchase effort had been achieved...councils went around fining, evicting and confiscating... because what they didn't tell the gypsy community was... you can buy the land, but we won't give you the permissions you need to be able to use it. And of course, they had the full force of the law behind them. At this point travellers started putting children in schools to learn basic academic skills. Prior to that, they worked on honour and this had left them open to being totally deceived by the government and councils, and bitter. The relationship between both sides totally broke down and the prewar respect that both gypsies and non gypsies had for each other was lost completely. With the loss of other things like public toilets on parks and open use of tips, a once very naturally living community began leaving waste in public spaces...and why wouldn't they, they will be evicted in a few days anyway... There are so many spiderlegs in this web that it's would require an essay to cover it all.
@@micrasheep The Law required that all men of age and fighting fit had to go to War. Stop trying to make out that the Tinker was victimised by this Law.
Here we see 2 young males try and impress two young females. And it looks like it hasn’t worked, so the males attempt to grab the female but she gets away
I remember watching this courting ritual on that prog about the Travellers wouldn't be my way but if the Females accept this as part of their Culture then who are we to fault them still a bit nuts though.. Grab your mine woman 😂😂
Ladies!!! This is why you carry body spray with you! Literally any, lynx is my fav. You can use it as a pepper spray substitute and you won't get in trouble because you can easily say that it was intended to be used as it's original purpose but desperate times called for desperate measures. I'd rather get in trouble trying to defend myself rather than end up dead for not even trying, fearing the consequences.
Dumdum888888 it's not babe all traveler girls try and get away because loads of people are watchin and it's shameful but you wouldn't now what love is anyways
@@dannydbrown90 learn to quit judging what you don't know they'll grab anyone. It's assault and your comment on the matter of whether the girls are travelling people or not makes you just as bad as the dick in the red top.
Mate it's not a thing the only reason travellers even know what it is is big fat gypsy wedding and if your getting your information about gypsys and travellers off of that I feel sorry for ya
@@williamlewis7023 fair enough. Well then they documented it wrong. How come you don’t hear about the traveler community publicly condemning the practice and complaining about misrepresentation from the media?
@@coldworld5 honestly I dont know why probably the same reason we dont take pubs that wont serve gypsys to court our culture makes it so we dont care as much about getting discriminated we tend to just say f@#$ off and go about are day but you will find the odd one that will complain and the odd one that will get violent over it same as any ethnic group
Elliot Tarrant why would there live heavily impact on you if you mind your business don't be involved stop looking out the window like a nosy neighbour let people live their lives and stop getting involved waiting for something that to do with you you're a lonesome person
Bloody 'ell. I thought the grabbing thing was just something they did playing up for that reality TV rubbish years ago. Didn't think it was actually real!
@@memphisdaniels3218 the power of 📺, I got rid of the TV at the start of the pandemic I have read/ heard a few stories in the UK, where young teenagers have been drugged and smuggled in England It is human trafficking into a crime of bribing the Girls into Prostitution I was living in a shared house with 3 others, 1 Girl, age 20/21 came back one day in tears Said she was being chased by a coloured guy, who she didn't know Lucky her Dad, was a Policeman We told the landlord, who quickly changed the locks It was during the day in the Summer time It seems that our society is rapidly changing into a brutal jungle The lack of Police force and soft punishment is futile The war on drugs is somewhat out of control Life is a scream 🤌💰💊
Mcufre You assume a lot, that girl could be sweet and kind, etc but you label her as a whore. If you knew anything about gypsies you would know that she would be shunned in her community if she had sex with him before marriage.
Bruv she wanted it clearly they ain't snowflakes that are worried about everything they take action like how men should sitting round a girl butterflying round her ain't gonna get her nickers off mush
@@georgeparry1132 bruv they still getting pussy and they are clearly kids with girls there own age they still walked away with them boys smiling you don't know shit and them girls don't seem bothered racist bastard just cuz they are travellers they still human
@@robbeaumont2168 BTW i wasn't referring to stealing. I was referring to hugging and cuddling my transit because they're well into transit vans.( like when they grab a girl they like ).
star beauty That doesn't make it acceptable, you complete plum. Let's use another example, certain cultures marry men to girls of 9, is that okay, Considering that's how they do it? Stupid, uneducated logic.
J Len Sexual harassment is wrong in any context, you complete imbecile. So by your views, Indian men getting married to 9 year old girls is completely acceptable, because it's their culture? I'm also guessing genital mutilation is okay, in Africa? I guess the slave trade should still be a thing too? You're beyond uneducated, you complete imbecile.
You have been indoctrinated to believe that - the reality is we have no idea how 'cavemen' behaved. Given that they needed a woman to procreate, they may indeed have treated them better than the silly cartoon image you guess at.
I just wanna say that isn't how early homosapiens behaved. The cavemen had complex emotions just like us & fell for women they met. We're a monogamous species for the most part and so were our ancestors, if the woman didn't want to be part of it she would just leave while the male was busy or something. Cavemen had to attract and impress potential mates into actually wanting them then just as much as we have to today haha
"Grabbing" also known as assault and sexual assault. If its part of your "culture" then keep it in your culture. Dont try "grabbing" girls that aren't part of that culture
Many years ago at Apppleby some Irish traveller grabbed my finance, this is before I met her. Her cousin sorted out the offender. The grabbing is a Irish traveller thing not a gypsy thing.
Ahhhh the matting ritual of the young gypsies, The male needs to show his feathers so using his wing man starts a spot of boxing skills to prove he can earn money in the bare knuckle pit fights and hold his own in a family battle while the third boy proves his video and social media video uploading skills with his phone to send the matting gypsies foes , the female gives in but brings a friend to take note of the male gypsies caravan colour so the matting females wedding dress can match the caravan , the wedding itself could be as soon as in just 2 weeks time.
How boring. You actually wrote this. People who have seen the film alteady know the qoute. People that havent seen the film, Simply havent got a clue what your on about.
The issue is with these people they think they can have anything and no one's going to stand up to them (because people don't) so the kids think they're untouchable. 😏
@@paddywhack9817 So just because 1 traveller did this. You're calling the whole lot of them scumbags? Isn't it the Dublin younfellas who do well worse like Rob shops and steal bikes and are going around drifting in cars and lighting fires? Change your stance and views buddy. If travellers are scumbags then I'm absolutely speechless for regular Dublin youngfellas
And no not all of us are like that. My Dad is quiet and so is my Mam. I'm full educated and well mannered. But you are right about the standing up part. If anyone wants to start a fight let them. Because 100% I will finish it.
@@risevision1080 100% I agree you aren't all like that. How often do you need to finish a fight though? Who's fighting and why? It seems to be more the travellers are fighting or picking a fight.
@@risevision1080 quite an aggressive response, decent people in the UK and Ireland have had enough of these types that think they can get away with testing girls that way. It doesn't matter if your parents are well mannered or if you're educated, this needs dealt with and soon as we've had enough. Stop inviting trouble and behave and maybe life can go on, keep this behaviour up and we have a problem, simple, have a think. 👀😉
Dean Watt did you see that young girls body language? Did she look like she wanted to go with him? Was she not trying to get away? Watch it again please.
I hope these boys' parents see this and take the appropriate action, and report them to the police for this behaviour so they face the due consequences. Unacceptable; they need to be punished.
These days, you need evidence though. If they just called the police it would be a case of "he said, she said." At least if they film, they have the proof.
@@heythere9339 He didn't sexuality assault her. The girls were stood talking with them and you can see them smiling while he was grabbing her and they walked away with them. That was just harmless and playful. Not sexual assault. Some people really need to learn the words sexual assault Sexual harassment Rape Before carelessly throwing them around
I am not sure what is going on here or if this is indeed something which is part of their culture, but I have met quite a few travellers and they have been nothing but nice and kind to me. People are people, I am sure there are some bad apples out there, no matter what the culture.
This isn't tradition . for 99.999999% of us it don't happen at all we frown upon it because its another reason for people to judge all of us as the same when we don't at all. The ones that do try this us ourselves we smash their faces in because of it . Because we're already judged enough as it is so why we beat them is because of that reason especially. The girls are like glass eggs so we don't touch them in this sort of way ever cuz its shameful dishonorable disrespectful uncourteous and no real men no real one of us would ever dare think let alone try this . and there is no factual information to prove these kids are one of us anyway , but the assumptions of majority will always rule over logic sense facts evidence
I thought grabbing should and is kept within their own community? Odd that they'd expect someone not in their community be familiar w their rules and culture
The rules of a functional society do not apply to them, they are open about this. Question is; what as a society do we do about it? Have they been suffering victimisation or simply a valid response to their behaviour under the circumstances? Hardest thing of all is,this is their normal! They are a minority and thank god for that at least!
This is rare but they re a different breed . The last group of people who can't be controlled and neutered and brought into line with the rat race . The Do what they likeys should be respected Not in this instance though.Grabbing is wrong and most travellers don't like it
@UU’s as a society we have come a long way from killing, raping and pillaging in the street. This is why our sisters and mothers can ( for the most part) walk down the street in relative safety. It has taken thousands of years and although it is still a flawed system, it is inherently better than what stood before it. This section of society refuses to adopt the social norms, yet benefit from all they have to offer, taking advantage of the empathy that has evolved because of our cultural advancement and giving almost nothing in return, stating that they are separate and will conduct themselves as such. By the way Uu’s, you would utterly unacceptable as a gentleman of colour within the vast majority of this group as it is also true that their attitudes are also from a time when this was deemed acceptable, just like grabbing young women because you feel like it.
@@hammersmashedspud4345 we should be fighting to keep some old cultures alive but to say that they should have free reign in a modern world is ridiculous! I’ve lived in close proximity to this and can tell you from experience that your romanticised views are unfounded. Within their own groups, this behavior and other destructive behaviours just like it are institutionalised and have no place in a functioning system. They have been ostracised throughout history and although I believe this to be wrong, it does raise certain questions if as a society, we are brave enough to ask them and deal with them in a compassionate, assertive way.
they are taking the piss out of all of us. What I would do is recruit 10,000 of the hardest prisoners in our prisons. They would be taken to Appleby for the annual lawless meeting of these vermin and unleashed. For every prisoner participant they would get a year knocked off their sentence. When these vermin come up against the likes of Bronson they will understand they aren't that hard.