The downside from this setup is that in not only wants to keep the bike up right , but also wants to keep it going in a straight line, kinda resisting the steering.
Is use a weight stabilizer that shifts side to side as opposed to having a gyroscopic disc. This way it doesn't resist turning, and still stays upright somewhat.
I rode motorcycles for many years. A little-known trick is to Rev up the engine when you're moving very slow or coming to a stop. The engine acts as a gyroscope and does help stabilize the bike. Not a huge difference, but it helps.
Don't the wheels already act as a gyroscope? And wouldn't slowing down just lessen that effect? Also, there's no parts in the engine that are large enough and rotate in a complete circle or the right direction.
The engine provides little to no gyroscopic force, the crankshaft simply has a too small diameter. Being in higher rpm provides you with more power, so when feathering the clutch or pushing against the rear brake, you have more power stabilizing you.
Instead of using the front wheel to steer, push the flywheel left and right to lean the bike. This is very similar to counter steering a motorbike. Push right, lean right. You'll have to swap to curved profile tyres too.
Try an active gyro or a reaction wheel maybe Active stabilizing steering? They all have down sides but a combination of some might be the best (steering and active gyro) for a bike this size. Also most bikes 🚲 have the front at an angle to passively keep it up right at speed. I'm 13 so this might be wrong.
Seems like everybody is trying to give you more ideas. I'm here to cheer you up😊. This project is brilliant. Your prototype works. I hope to see it developed soon.
Bike design itself is a self balancing one while moving, u don't necessarily need a gyroscope fly wheel to keep it upright, it all depends on the angle both wheel touching the ground, just research a bit and u can make it
@@_dnkMy dear, I definately watched the whole video before commenting, Gyroscopic Wheel is never practical for a moving vehicle as he prevents it to turn in corners, he made the connecting wheel rods parallel to the ground that is why it is unstable that much. Correcting angles can be done in so many way. By the way if you are into bikes then you will know engineers always tried to keep the gyro wheel effect in a moving vehicle as low as possible as we have the flywheel magnet in the engine to able to turn the bike easily. Pls know the science before Commenting.
I have a remote control motorcycle from the early 80s. No gyroscope, it could drive slow. The big thing about your motorcycle is the steering is all wrong. The steering should be free turning. You want the server to change the lean of the wheel. Off set to the right and offset to the left. This will change the CG and the bike will fall to the right/left and it will steer towards the CG.
from what i see so far....the front wheel needs a camber, its gotta flop sideways a little when it turns. like a bike wheel, it will turn better. and a flat truck tire type tread is going to fight ya too.. and it needs a higher stance so the side rails don't touch down so easy. cool design
That gyroscope needs to be 'active'; it has to roll inside the bike on 3 axis to counteract the bike reactions when turning and trying to be vertical. What you doing now is just following the gyroscope 'starting' direction. What you need is to use the gyroscope as a 'reference' point and spin/stabilize the bike under or to it. Great job!
IF IS A FAILURE WOULD BE IN THE PLASTIC PROTOTYPE, YOU CANNOT MIX METAR AND PLASTIC IN THE MECHANICS, IT WILL BE A 100% FAILURE SI HAY UN FRACASO ESTARIA EN EL PROTOTIPO EN PLASTICO, NO SE PUEDE MEZCLAR EL METAR Y EL PLASTICO EN LA MECANICA, SERA UN FALLO 100%
I just played with an RC dirt bike that requires the Gyro inside of the back wheel to spin up to a top speed before you launch it by hand with a bowling motion. I don't remember the name , but the Gyro was inside of the back wheel, it wad encased in 2 clear disks so you could see the Gyro spin up. It worked, but I think if the Gyro was spinning at a higher rpm, the bike might be able to stand up on its own. The rc bike toy seemed to have a limit to preserve battery life.
One will do, if you use gyroscopic effect by rotating the gyroscope over vertical axis. Once turned you can use momentum also from the reaction wheel principle. This stabilizes the vehicle at any speed without any singularities.
In 2 wheelers, when you turn the steering wheel to certain direction, the vehicle itself wants to lean to the other direction because of gyroscopic effect on the wheel itself. You can observe it in the video. Using separate gyroscope helps stabilize the vehicle, but also made turning much harder.
Yo so just a little suggestion. Your getting a perpendicular torque from direction of the spin. Get it spinning and have it hinged so it can move in an axis to stabilize itself. Right now it always wants to pull because it’s locked in place if it’s free to tilt up as it gains momentum it’ll right itself perfectly assuming its mass is enough to counter the force of gravity trying to force it down with the added weight of the vehicle offset on its side in its resting state
Rather than using gyroscope. U can also use weight at the center of mass and lower the height of mass to the ground and also connected with bearing on sides which not tilt the mass sideways..
This is exactly what they do in the higher end RC motorcycles. They put the flywheel in the rear tire. Another thing you should try is raising the frame to allow the battery pack to be slung under it. use a servo to swing that pack assembly slighly to the right or left of center to lean the bike to turn.
The original RC ones back in the day had a small spinning gyroscope in the middle, and the only way to get it to spin since it was a fairly light motor, was to be in a big parking lot, and turning I believe left, in a circle to trigger it to work. This was back when we still used Crystals in RC, that bike was a fortune too :D
try to build a front wheel steering with caster angle, that does stabilize the bike and not the gyroscope effect as said in the comments, research "Most People Don't Know How Bikes Work" and see bikes going at 10km/h without any person only with that caster angle
Cool. But you should look up how bicycles work. It's a myth that they're stable because of the gyroscopic effect, it has nothing to do with it (well technically contributes a tiny bit, but isn't needed). It's entirely due to how the front wheel and steering is setup. I think if you had the steering correct you wouldn't need a gyro at all. In fact I remember having an RC toy bike when I was a kid, and it had no gyro - but it did have the same steering setup as a bike - it was stable and could turn pretty well, at least for a cheapy RC kids toy from the mid 2000s Edit: it's perfectly possible you know all this, and just want to experiment with a different design. If so that's really cool and you can ignore me. If not, this thing is still cool anyway! Don't think I was insulting you or anything - just trying to offer some advice.
All motorcycles have two gyroscopes when theyre going fast enough. Thats why you have to counter steer. Its also the reason you'll probably only see stuff like this in concept vehicles
Should check out these legit rc ones that they sell they some how manage to put the gyro in the rear wheel seems to help when it’s lower on center of gravity and near the rear.
There is no gimbal for yaw motion. You need to provide freedom for gyroscope axis to yaw. Or mount the gyroscope axis perpendicular to ground and then provide freedom for axis pitch motion. If you do the above modification, you can balance just with one gyroscope alone
Just make a program that self rights itself while driving and only uses the gyroscope when it’s stationary, this will keep it upright whenever it’s not moving and when it is the steering won’t be affected by the gyroscope. You could also have the gyroscope on a servo so when it starts to fall it can rotate and correct itself
Motorcycles can only drive slowly because the rider uses the steering to keep it upright until he has to put a foot down. Tandem axle cars or tilting three wheelers need support from retractable undercarriage up to about 10mph. It’s no big deal. Just add the outriggers.
Would work better and not require the 2nd gyroscope if you evenly distributed the weight. That was one of the main factors in making that old car work.
It will be consuming more fuel for middle wheel to spin only for making balance we can't afford it it will be automatic balancing vehicle but not for all people i guess but bro you made it. I don't have money and that much equipment but just make a generator wheel inside zero gravity vaccum ball and only port of power output should be linked with external circuit. We can have energy source. 😊
with a tight perpendicular gyro you wont need a steering set up if it can be programmed on a tilt limiter to prevent falling over by adding a speed boost and travel the knifes blade
I used to have an rc dirt bike back in day that was like this very hard to turn obviously but it was still so fun. Pretty sure it was blue and yellow and had a person on it..
I ended up scraping mine due to the large power consumption needed to keep it running. Remember that it was back wen cellphone weren't even a thing yet. Back then, the best battery for size was a 9v, run that through a small flashlight balb in line with your moter to keep it from blowing up.
gyroscopes must be arranged in an x-y , thats the only way it will stabilize. need about 20,000 rpms on each flywheel, one comes to mind, a gyroscope mounted to machine guns for the military stabilize both axis creating resistance locking it in space unitl you act a force upon either axis
This isn’t at all how gyroscopes work, you can’t just put a spinning thing in there and expect it to hold its orientation. If you restrain a gyroscope in one axis (the wheels stop the gyroscope being able to rotate about the vertical axis) then you get no stabilising force in the other axis (the roll axis). The two wheeled car you showed works by using the precession of the gyroscope to provide a corrective input to the steering
This is really interesting but man is using those thick tyres like he's making the batman bike which I'm not against and would look totally cool but I think bro needs to make it a bit smaller on the sides so the bike can go closer to the ground on the sides or change the tyres to those of a actual motorbike (if you get what I mean, keep the size the same but make the types longer vertically like a motorbike tyres) would absolutely love to see more.
