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H&K G41: The HK33 Meets the M16 

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The H&K G41 was developed for the NATO trials of the early 1980s, which were set up to look at both rifles and cartridges for NATO standardization (although they did not end up choosing a rifle). The gun is a basically an HK33 roller-delayed system set up to use standard M16 magazines and with a selection of other M16 features like a dust cover, forward assist, carry handle, and bolt holdopen/release. Two versions were made, a standard length rifle and a shorter barreled carbine with a collapsing stock. The system was not a commercial success; most potential clients opted to either buy the HK33 or the M16, rather than this sort-of hybrid.
It is worth noting that the G41 was the first H&K rifle to offer a 3-round limited burst option and the first to use the universal bullet icon selector markings, both of which have become commonplace on all their other weapons since.
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Комментарии : 718   
@LuisLopez-zh9kh
@LuisLopez-zh9kh 4 года назад
it's ironic that in the effort towards making it more M16 like they instead ended up with a rifle heavier than the G3.
@edwardsallow6518
@edwardsallow6518 2 года назад
It has less recoil and it fires 30 instead of 20 . The weight was a ok sacrifice
@felipeaugusto2600
@felipeaugusto2600 2 года назад
@@edwardsallow6518 You know all this mags are interchangeable right?
@ah64dbeast37
@ah64dbeast37 2 года назад
It's about the same weight as a g3 actually a little less but far too much BS on it. The hk33 was just fine
@craykard8325
@craykard8325 2 года назад
the Teutonic Gods said it needed more steel
@Gameprojordan
@Gameprojordan 2 года назад
@@ah64dbeast37 yeah honestly the only thing really interesting me about it is the AR style mag compatibility and the scope mount
@andiheinrich2830
@andiheinrich2830 5 лет назад
for interested people: S stands for "Sicher" - secure E stands for "Einzelfeuer" - single shot F stands for "Feuerstoß" - full auto
@edwardkelliher4039
@edwardkelliher4039 3 года назад
How do you pronounce the last one ?
@DJDiarrhea
@DJDiarrhea 3 года назад
@@edwardkelliher4039 "Feuer" is pronouced basically the same as how you'd pronounce it in an english accent. "Stoß" starts with an "st" sound which is pronounced with a "sht" sound and ends on a "ß" which is basically a sharp s sound, like in "seal".
@Anvilshock
@Anvilshock 3 года назад
@@edwardkelliher4039 foya shtows, with the ow like flow, not cow, and emphasis on foya
@Reinecke32
@Reinecke32 3 года назад
or S afe, E conomic and F reedom
@DaDudeb
@DaDudeb 2 года назад
@@Reinecke32 I've learned in german military service, that F stands for "Frieden"
@AIM7Sparrow
@AIM7Sparrow 5 лет назад
30% comments : great. variation of G3 but using 5.56 70% : G F
@SIERRA-sc8mt
@SIERRA-sc8mt 4 года назад
*WEEB FRONT LINE*
@syrehn7684
@syrehn7684 4 года назад
as it should be
@겨자-y9k
@겨자-y9k 4 года назад
핰핰핰
@TheUnboxer073
@TheUnboxer073 2 года назад
@@SIERRA-sc8mt 100% raifu moment.
@codiserville593
@codiserville593 2 года назад
Lol
@Luca-wn8tz
@Luca-wn8tz 4 года назад
Day 847 Ian is rumored to still be in the HK grey room
@김유민-k4w8i
@김유민-k4w8i 4 года назад
Ian looking at the comments: *what in the world..??*
@allengordon6929
@allengordon6929 3 года назад
He evidently plays GFL
@x1xx1x1xx1
@x1xx1x1xx1 3 года назад
@@allengordon6929 I'm not doubting you just asking if he ever alluded to it or there was a slip (:
@Munroe031
@Munroe031 5 лет назад
The Silent Bolt Closure Device: For all those times you need to silently reload after dumping your entire magazine.
@Munroe031
@Munroe031 5 лет назад
@@SonsOfLorgar You mean for all those times soldiers bring unloaded weapons to ambushes which require at least a little forethought and planning.
@nercksrule
@nercksrule 5 лет назад
@@Munroe031 The idea is that it's always safer to keep the bolt open until you're ready to fire. A second safety, if you will. If you were going to use the Silent Bolt Closure Device, you'd open the dust cover and proceed to walk the bolt closed.
@Munroe031
@Munroe031 5 лет назад
​@@nercksrule Sure. It's always safer. For your enemies. Because either it's safer because your own troops are so poorly trained they can't handle a loaded weapon; in which case they're so wet behind the ears they're not going to remember to send the bolt home when it's time to fight. Or, your troops are so well trained they're going to remember to send the bolt home when they're ready to fight, in which case they don't need that feature either. And let's remember, they're sending the bolt home in order to ready the weapon *_BECAUSE THEY'RE ABOUT TO MAKE A LOT OF NOISE ANYWAY._* This is the kind of shit POGs come up with when they're not busying themselves getting fighting men killed with even stupider ideas.
@MrTiti
@MrTiti 4 года назад
@@Munroe031 no. you have not got it right. start thinking: you think in either or case. now... simple as that: it is for the case happening and you will just want to be unexpected as long as you can. there is NO FUCKING TIME FOR A COMMAND TO DO wHAT YOU WANT. it is just a matter of situation you cant control. but of yourse you are more experienced than H&K
@stevenbobbybills
@stevenbobbybills 4 года назад
@@MrTiti what's the point of putting yourself at risk by doing this instead of just using the first safety and keeping your finger out of the trigger guard?
@commandernightstrike
@commandernightstrike 5 лет назад
you gotta give it to HK, they lost out to their own rifle for commercial success. Meaning that no other manufacturer had a rifle that fit their clients requirements. ALSO thank you HK for letting Ian come over and see your stash of AWESOME!!!
@Kargush
@Kargush 5 лет назад
On the subject of pin holes and storage. During basic in the Norwegian army, we were taught to put the pins from the handguard back in the handguard after we'd taken it off. Kept them safe, and prevented loss without losing the entire part.
@norad_clips
@norad_clips 5 лет назад
Looks like the dolls captured this comment section.
@ReonMagnum
@ReonMagnum 5 лет назад
Captured it just like Sangvis Command Posts.
@norad_clips
@norad_clips 5 лет назад
ReonMagnum Heck yeah!
@Kowalowe
@Kowalowe 5 лет назад
"silent bolt closure device"
@knutdergroe9757
@knutdergroe9757 5 лет назад
They tried a few different styles of those....
@GB-sh9st
@GB-sh9st 5 лет назад
"which in my opinion is a little dubious"
@TrigonixZeNW
@TrigonixZeNW 5 лет назад
Leises Bolzenverschlussgerät ;)
@johnq1753
@johnq1753 5 лет назад
Trigonix ZeNW Lautlose Verschlussschließungsvorrichtung
@TrigonixZeNW
@TrigonixZeNW 5 лет назад
John Q wollte ihn nur 1zu1 übersetzten :)
@nickythenickname
@nickythenickname 5 лет назад
I think it says something about H&K's designs when i just see two oversized MP5s in the thumbnail
@sylum3
@sylum3 5 лет назад
Somehow that trickled down to the IDF, where they told us in boot camp that the forward assist on the m16 is a "silent bolt closure device"
@xXponyinthestarsXx
@xXponyinthestarsXx 3 года назад
Like bro literally just push it with your thumb
@Halvspenn
@Halvspenn 3 года назад
@@xXponyinthestarsXx This. Norwegian and Swedish G3s (AG3 and AK4 respectively) have a serrated thumb groove in the bolt to aid in closing it, should you need to, because that's all you need.
@TheUnboxer073
@TheUnboxer073 5 лет назад
Oathed the doggo.
@kazuhiramiller3033
@kazuhiramiller3033 4 года назад
its a cat
@toxicblood115
@toxicblood115 4 года назад
It’s a fox
@afelias
@afelias 4 года назад
The artist's official comment is "Is she supposed to be a dog or a cat or a fox? I forgot, I was so horny when I drew her and didn't write it down."
@mekingtiger9095
@mekingtiger9095 3 года назад
@@afelias Haha, but I still go with fox. No way those are cat or dog ears...
@aish_workshop
@aish_workshop 3 года назад
it a fuck nugget
@BucketPukes1969
@BucketPukes1969 4 года назад
God man I wish I could get one of those. I’ve wanted an HK93 for as long as I can remember. This is for sure the machine gun I would somehow get a license and sell my future house for... I mean it’s a full auto hk93 with ar 15 mags! Also, it’s pretty amazing how high quality HK guns are for being mass produced. I’d say the same for Sigs.
@WPSent
@WPSent Год назад
Good news! PTR is making a sort of clone of this gun!
@hvymtal8566
@hvymtal8566 5 лет назад
I hoped you would eventually get to handle them, and I am so pleased you did! Not the best 5.56mm rifle by far (rifle-caliber delayed blowback guns tend to have harsh recoil, especially 5.56 relative to other 5.56 rifles), but certainly one of the coolest!
@Pyrosis22
@Pyrosis22 5 лет назад
This would have been a cool weapon to have on the market even the best 93 clones that take STANAG don't have a bolt hold open.
@cosbyc2
@cosbyc2 5 лет назад
The parts kits are very rare as not many of the guns made it into the US but TSC Machine will built a clone off a 93 with a parts kit. He has also made a C version. They are neat guns, I was at his shop a few weeks ago and he was finishing one up.
@rafihardadi8002
@rafihardadi8002 5 лет назад
@@arvidalexatsinch1163 OP means that once the magazine runs dry, the bolt remains open after the last round like on an AR15 platform. What you described is the standard reloading procedure for HK styled rifles and the MP5.
@AnimeFanatic5602
@AnimeFanatic5602 Год назад
PTR just introduced a version of this at Shot Show.
@georgewhitworth9742
@georgewhitworth9742 10 месяцев назад
@@AnimeFanatic5602I really hope they step away from all the "AR15" parts to something more authentic. Kinda starts killing the point of getting a non-AR 5.56 rifle in my opinion.
@zatoby6705
@zatoby6705 5 лет назад
Bushman IDW when?
@Dreadnought_Toaster
@Dreadnought_Toaster 5 лет назад
IDW DA NYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@shrimpfrylu
@shrimpfrylu 5 лет назад
IDW DANYA
@PillowRageTV
@PillowRageTV 4 года назад
DA NYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@christopherbruderle684
@christopherbruderle684 4 года назад
[1:10:00]
@helsreach8954
@helsreach8954 4 года назад
@@christopherbruderle684 the sacred numbers
@reuploadsofquantumofconsci2507
Heckler & Koch is awesome.
@operator6438
@operator6438 5 лет назад
Yup
@Krondon-SSR
@Krondon-SSR 5 лет назад
They need to make more guns damnit
@cassius_705
@cassius_705 5 лет назад
@@chickenfishhybrid44 German export laws. Not H&K's fault.
@ostiariusalpha
@ostiariusalpha 5 лет назад
@@chickenfishhybrid44 Believe it or not, the intersection of U.S. import laws and German export laws does make for a lot of hoops for HK to jump through just to sell semi-auto magazine fed rifles to Americans. And they've been burned a number of times by changes in gun laws in the U.S.
@ostiariusalpha
@ostiariusalpha 5 лет назад
@@chickenfishhybrid44 HK can be prissy, but believe me, they'd love your money. HK has become the German de facto service rifle manufacturer, which ironically makes them a big, fat target for anti-gun legislators in Germany. They have to walk on eggshells all the time to avoid losing that lucrative defense contract, and selling anything that even resembles their combat models to American civilians puts them in a very precarious position.
@ahensley63
@ahensley63 5 лет назад
I've been waiting for this one forever. One of Hk's best looking rifles, IMHO
@revolverDOOMGUY
@revolverDOOMGUY 5 лет назад
*Me putting all my heart in a sentence* : I LOVE YOU H&K RIFLES !! *The short variants* : ....... K
@Mrgunsngear
@Mrgunsngear 5 лет назад
great video and an interesting gun for sure
@beargillium2369
@beargillium2369 3 года назад
What amounts to a German roller locked ar? Sign me up.
@eviethewinterwitch8370
@eviethewinterwitch8370 Год назад
Dog?? Cat??? Fox????
@stardust_2339
@stardust_2339 5 лет назад
Now I want to see this in 7.62. Or just a modernized G3... and FAL... and all cool cold war rifles.
@ShortT-RexLikeArms
@ShortT-RexLikeArms 5 лет назад
Well there is Ian's custom G3 in InRange TV.
@williamprince1114
@williamprince1114 5 лет назад
Brownells seems to be working that retro revival thing ....... I bet before long you will see a FAL/SLR brought to market.
@GuardianOfTheHeaven
@GuardianOfTheHeaven 5 лет назад
Technically, the HK G41 is just a 5.56 version of the HK G3 battle rifle, but I get the rest of your points otherwise. Would love to see them being modernized(but at the same time, retaining some of their authentic mechanics as well, like having the ability to mount the HK79 grenade launcher attachment)
@ramuhhorn8264
@ramuhhorn8264 5 лет назад
Modernize G3 ?, hmmmm AG3F2 maybe your choice
@keppachi1216
@keppachi1216 4 года назад
@@williamprince1114 DSA is making FAL both the classic & modern version btw
@FalbereChan
@FalbereChan 4 года назад
normal people: G41 me, a man of culture: *big bullet mp5*
@austinm.9832
@austinm.9832 3 года назад
The standard version fits that definition better.
@mickbowling4412
@mickbowling4412 5 лет назад
One of the most bad ass rifles ive ever seen. Love the MP5 look with stanag mag capability.
@MISTERLOLCRACKERS
@MISTERLOLCRACKERS 5 лет назад
That Selector Switch: Nope Dat DatDatDat DATDATDATDATDATDATDATDAT
@blonik22
@blonik22 4 года назад
@Joshua Ngau Ajang WWWWWWAAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
@thegeforce6625
@thegeforce6625 3 года назад
No bullet Bullet More bullet All bullet
@basmus
@basmus 3 года назад
well I guess that works in all languages ^^
@themeatpopsicle
@themeatpopsicle 5 лет назад
do you feel like that forward assist is taunting you?
@roboticrebel4092
@roboticrebel4092 4 года назад
yes that thing disgusts me
@purplepidgin
@purplepidgin 4 года назад
That fire select switch, so honest and simple 👍🏾
@edwardsallow6518
@edwardsallow6518 2 года назад
The gun it’s self was made to be as simple and reliable as possible . Who cares about the weight if they’re is less recoil . More rounds in each mag. And easier to find ammo . Also it’s just as reliable as the g3 already was .
@garysherwood2501
@garysherwood2501 3 года назад
Anything H&K is just awesome in my opinion. The 33 is my favorite rifle all the way around, please keep the Cetme & H&k stuff coming. Thank you, great video
@hali666
@hali666 4 года назад
This gun is so good looking, cool features and very universal, I don't understand how this piece of beautiful history would fail like that. Would definitely get myself one if these were still on the market, always wondered what an 5.56 G3 would feel like recoil wise and now that i see this, wondering what an M16/G3 hyprid would feel like. Great video, love it.
@edwardsallow6518
@edwardsallow6518 2 года назад
They are . Gb
@edwardsallow6518
@edwardsallow6518 2 года назад
It didn’t fail it’s just that Germany didn’t really think they needed an upgrade yet . It was by all accounts a success and if they were going to adopt something around then it would have most definitely been this gun
@tylersmith3139
@tylersmith3139 8 месяцев назад
@@edwardsallow6518 It did fail, it was barely adopted by other nations.
@BigBigBigJeff
@BigBigBigJeff 5 лет назад
Newer videos are really good recently Ian! You're becoming a lot more descriptive whilst getting more concise, keep it up!
@flyingninja1234
@flyingninja1234 4 года назад
I like the H&K selector switch markings. No bullet. 3 bullets. Lots of bullets.
@chuckhaynes6458
@chuckhaynes6458 5 лет назад
Used forward assist several times in Viet Nam as a "Silent bolt closure device" pulling back slightly on charging handle while pushing forward assist gently several times to quietly seat the bolt carrier.
@themeatpopsicle
@themeatpopsicle 5 лет назад
ok here's a REAL question that hopefully by writing out i'll remember by the time the next Q&A submission comes around: what's the advantage of a pin that comes out all the way? was it just the standard of the time? attack of the bean counters? seems a better way to make sure you don't lose your takedown pins is to just make them captive.
@ThZuao
@ThZuao 5 лет назад
It's cheaper. In these weapons, the stamped steel is too thin to allow for a channel to be drilled to put a retainer. This, of course, is thinking on how it is done on the AR-15. You'd have to weld a little plate to accommodate a little spring and a ball to make an AR-15-like retainer in stamped steel. However, they do have a retaining system in place for the pins. Only it's for keeping them in place with the weapon assembled. I think they could work with that to make them captive, but I don't have a G3-like rifle around right now to see if that's really doable. Perhaps the rationale was that you could bend the receiver and maybe even the pins themselves if you handle them roughly? I'd take that chance anyday rather than being in combat and needing to take my weapon apart, only to lose the pin and render my rifle inoperable because I can't put it back together.
@hhaxden
@hhaxden 5 лет назад
If normal pins are bent you can replace them without any tools or special skills, making it easier for a military to distribute replacement parts. With captive pins you either need to always have someone with the appropriate equipment available or be prepared to exchange the receiver over a bent pin.
@SuperAWaC
@SuperAWaC 5 лет назад
captive pins aren't generally truly captive and can still be pulled out with force.
@slthbob
@slthbob 5 лет назад
@@stanleyjedrzejczyk2966 been there, you pick it up like you are kewl and no one knows it happened... mass of the receiver from shoulder height is not enough for the pins to notice.... as well as the mythical fantasy of stripping an AR firing pin in low light field conditions... nice attempt though... just because someone once told you it was made of eggshells doesn't mean it is :P
@ashley587
@ashley587 5 лет назад
@@hhaxden armorers are always available in theater. That's not a legit concern for a military.
@undying1177
@undying1177 5 лет назад
I love some fucking fox girl holding that gun.....
@newdefsys
@newdefsys 5 лет назад
Thanks Ian and HK. The G41 is one of the legendary guns
@kagurakagome
@kagurakagome 3 года назад
H O M E TE
@PlasmaHH
@PlasmaHH 5 лет назад
I can see why that bolt closure thing is useful. For the G3 it was rather loud to let it snap, you could make it go forward almost silently, and then with a gentle tap of the buttstock on your shoe, it would snap into position. We were trained to do that in situations where silence was necessary. That device would have helped a lot there. In german military training, the real purpose of a forward assist would have never been an option. When there is a reason it won't lock, then that reason has to be resolved.
@EMERTHERofficial
@EMERTHERofficial 5 лет назад
Deutsche Qualitätsware ist nunmal etwas schwerer, aber dafür auch robuster und zuverlässig. *Keep up the great work!* :)
@brettimkopp7514
@brettimkopp7514 5 лет назад
Ja, schon, aber wie in der WWSD Reihe erwähnt, je mehr Gewicht der Waffe, desto weniger Kapazitäten um Munition mitnehmen zu können und damit haben Ian und Carl ja durchaus Recht. Und Grüße werter Landsmann.
@MlTGLIED
@MlTGLIED 5 лет назад
So ist das 💪
@TrigonixZeNW
@TrigonixZeNW 5 лет назад
Deutsche Soldaten müssen halt stärker sein ;)
@DannyArcher32
@DannyArcher32 5 лет назад
Beim G36 haben sie den Fokus dann ja viel stärker auf leichtes Gewicht gelegt und entsprechend stark auf Kunststoff gesetzt. Dafür wird es dann wieder massiv schlecht geredet, obwohl es für normale Infanterie eine exzellente Wahl ist.
@TheWilferch
@TheWilferch 5 лет назад
nicht immer......
@invictusprima4437
@invictusprima4437 5 лет назад
Just don’t put any Fookin laser sights on it Thatcher approves
@fnzer0
@fnzer0 5 лет назад
Invictus Prima But his is the 33 tho
@invictusprima4437
@invictusprima4437 5 лет назад
FNZero close enough
@ReiruYT
@ReiruYT 5 лет назад
HOEMETE HOEMETE
@ShogunMongol
@ShogunMongol 4 года назад
What?
@thenumberfour6455
@thenumberfour6455 4 года назад
@@ShogunMongol Teehee
@engred1721
@engred1721 5 лет назад
HOMETEHOMETE HOMETEHOMETE
@MPdude237
@MPdude237 5 лет назад
One thing I found interesting about the mag retainer is that despite using M16 mags, the mag release is in the left side and low enough for someone to grab the mag and hit the release with the thumb, which is the same type of mag system on the MP-18, MP-28, MP-38/40, MkB-42, MP-43/44, STG 44 and the Gerat 06H.
@michaelhorner912
@michaelhorner912 5 лет назад
I want a grey room!!!!
@john-paulsilke893
@john-paulsilke893 5 лет назад
michael horner everyone wants a grey room.
@edi9892
@edi9892 5 лет назад
Yes, with secret elevator to it...
@Vaasref
@Vaasref 5 лет назад
I'll take 2.
@jorgschimmer8213
@jorgschimmer8213 5 лет назад
Michel bist du das ?
@tuomopoika
@tuomopoika 5 лет назад
Love the graphical design of the fire selector :D
@666philipfry
@666philipfry 5 лет назад
As someone who has used firearms in combat, the idea of a silent blot closure device is very good. To get the device to work "silently" you have to use one hand to pull back on the bolt handle whilst using the other to push the bolt closure forwards; that way there is no "snap" as your two opposing hands create equilibrium. The other style of "silent bolt closure", i.e. the serrations on the front of the bolt, actually works even better because you can control all of the pressure with one thumb. It takes practice, but once you're proficient the silent bolt closure does exactly that. The number of tactical reasons to do this are far too many to mention, but being able to operate or charge a firearm silently (or nearly silently) may mean the difference between life and death.
@hunterstanis3322
@hunterstanis3322 3 года назад
H O M E T E H O M E T E H O M E T E H O M E T E
@rmod42
@rmod42 5 лет назад
You wait for years upon years for a video on the G41 and then two come along in less than a week!
@Devin_Stromgren
@Devin_Stromgren 5 лет назад
I've been saying for years that PTR needs to make something like this.
@fennekommando
@fennekommando Год назад
I bet youre real happy now
@mybrad7812
@mybrad7812 5 лет назад
Please do a PP-19 bizon
@borismuller86
@borismuller86 5 лет назад
mybrad78 such a weird weapon. Would love to see Gun Jesus bless us with it.
@krassertyp9087
@krassertyp9087 5 лет назад
It's basically just an unuasually shaped and shortened ak with the ability to take these weird mags. I'd still love to see it though
@thkarape
@thkarape 5 лет назад
Larry Vickers should just get Ian on one of his russian trips. Ian will probably get banned from entering russia after that though. Saying anything negative about russian technology is considered a sin there.
@boocomban
@boocomban 5 лет назад
@@thkarape Larry talk negative stuffs about Russian stuffs all of time. matter of facts, they take Larry opinions quite serious and based on it improve a lot of things. So no, unlike Ruskiephobic people think, they actually quite transparent. The only problem for Ian to get there is the cost. it is expensive so unless someone want to fund patreon for the trip, I don't see why Ian can't go there and return later. and a lot of Russian folk following this channel as well.
@oneproudbrowncoat
@oneproudbrowncoat 5 лет назад
@@boocomban hell, RUSSIANS joke about Russian technology & engineering. When you're proud of the positives, you do that about the negatives.
@masterrab3060
@masterrab3060 5 лет назад
Love your content you really know your stuff before you talk about any firearm or cannon. Keep it up I always learn loads whenever I watch you.
@nocturne1990
@nocturne1990 5 лет назад
Yeah the comments are as bad as everyone said
@TIBORANGE
@TIBORANGE 5 лет назад
We only needed two bolt-holders because of the procedures of a field strip where you are not removing the hand guard in the Field...so you wouldn’t lose the third pin... 🤓
@Vidar_Odinson
@Vidar_Odinson 5 лет назад
The Danish Frogmans Corps also purchased the G41, before adopting the Colt Canada(what used to be Diemaco) C8.
@DXLT2
@DXLT2 5 лет назад
At least at the swedish version of the G3 (AK4) there is a sort of rifling at the bolt to help put it forward. Works like a charm.
@mikefenton5634
@mikefenton5634 5 лет назад
H&K is so cool. The MP5, G3, HK33 all classics.
@ExON00
@ExON00 5 лет назад
The G3 or at least the norwegian AG3 had 4 disassembly pins, and SOP was to put them back there they belonged(which is also quicker) after disassembly, but the two pins for the stock was impractical to put in their holes so thats why they added the retaining holes in the stock. Also they had a thumb ramp on the bolt carrier for "silent bolt closure".
@DannyArcher32
@DannyArcher32 5 лет назад
Why didn't H&K use roller-delayed-blowback for the G36? It might have been neat to see a modernized version of the G41 with lightweight materials like in the G36.
@JohnHughesChampigny
@JohnHughesChampigny 5 лет назад
I'd guess because their experience with the SA80 rebuild convinced them that a gas operated AR18 style action was better -- leading in the end to the HK416, the lower of an AR15 joined to the upper of an AR18.
@GiuseppeSimonetti
@GiuseppeSimonetti 5 лет назад
It's pretty awesome that it can shoot burst and full auto.
@zacharykelly7434
@zacharykelly7434 5 лет назад
those are some very Lancaster-esque welds lolo
@hauptmanndosman
@hauptmanndosman 5 лет назад
I was thinking the same thing. I know that it is meant to be a combat weapon not a faberge egg, and while I am not great at welding, damn, those look bad.
@zacharykelly7434
@zacharykelly7434 5 лет назад
@@hauptmanndosman I kept waiting for him to say it was an early prototype because it looks cobbled together tbh
@MontegaB
@MontegaB 5 лет назад
The weld on the bolt is pretty sexy though
@ChuckSneed88
@ChuckSneed88 5 лет назад
Hk is notoriously bad at welding lol
@NikoMoraKamu
@NikoMoraKamu 5 лет назад
totally , they looks like made by me and thats wrong
@greygray6230
@greygray6230 5 лет назад
Wowww I got no notifications, can’t find video on your channel and only way I found this video was by you mentioning it in the video today and searching for it. I know RU-vid is having issues (like always) but this is the most ridiculous issue I’ve seen.
@astrokaizer
@astrokaizer 5 лет назад
This is the result of a loving relationship between a mp5 and a g3
@thesturm8686
@thesturm8686 5 лет назад
Isn't that practically incest tho?
@Abby_Normal_1969
@Abby_Normal_1969 5 лет назад
Can you still slap the charging handle to bring the bolt forward? I have no doubt that the AR style bolt release is much more efficient in literally every single situation imaginable. But it seems less HK-ish - dare I say less German? - not to slap it. I would not be surprised if 'slap it to tap it' is a German saying...one that probably does not translate well into English.
@moosemaimer
@moosemaimer 5 лет назад
I would imagine that if the bolt isn't caught by an empty magazine, like if you racked it open to load it, the slap would still work.
@waltrohrbach2459
@waltrohrbach2459 5 лет назад
Well, actually "slapping" the charging handle is no endorsed procedure for the G3 in the german army, the only official standard procedure: draw charging handle back and immediately let it go, to slam back by itself. The locking Position of charging handle is only used for inspecting or servicing the chamber, i.e. a group oft recruits have to show all at the same time open chamber in order to establish safety, verified by the instructor passing line of trainees. If dark vor Bad visibility, the pinkie is to be used to check chamber. The described procedures are "by the book" and official i can assure, as former infantry instructor.
@matthewmoss1589
@matthewmoss1589 5 лет назад
You can indeed.
@perto1970
@perto1970 5 лет назад
Swedish army use the "slap" as standard loading. But when things is bit more intense you kind of pull out the mag, put in a new and then just pull the bolt back and let it go
@Abby_Normal_1969
@Abby_Normal_1969 5 лет назад
@@waltrohrbach2459 - great to know. It's not like I will ever get my hands on an HK - I am working class - but knowledge is power. And I am fascinated with historical firearms. Thanks for the info!
@dylanridge-storer2471
@dylanridge-storer2471 5 лет назад
Franchi actually started making G41s under license as well.
@STGN01
@STGN01 5 лет назад
Danish special forces used this under the designation M85 together with the MP5 sized HK33 .
@Tokax
@Tokax 3 года назад
Master
@MrTacticalkilla
@MrTacticalkilla 5 лет назад
My new favorite rifle
@mobiuszero1018
@mobiuszero1018 5 лет назад
Really reminds me of a PSG-1...as a assault rifle,that is. H&K really makes some sexy guns(and this is coming from a guy who's more into aircraft)!
@lilinamagnum8871
@lilinamagnum8871 5 лет назад
I just want to know where can i got the HK G41 , in Washington ...... The girl in Dolls Frontline who is called G41 have saved me , when i got suffered from clinical depression ....... I do konw her real name isnt G41 , she is just called in this way because her weapon , but at least , i do want to get the weapom that she uses .
@DuzzinsSama
@DuzzinsSama 4 года назад
I'm sorry my friend... but sadly they dont make the cute g41.So I don't think you can get one.
@DuzzinsSama
@DuzzinsSama 4 года назад
@@ShikikanAventa perhaps it will be reliable when they do that
@memer2823
@memer2823 Год назад
That gun looks like a mix breed of the mp5 and g3
@herosstratos
@herosstratos 5 лет назад
Non captive pins can be inserted from either side. For left handed persons the pins can be inserted from the right side, then the body will ev. press the pins to the left into the receiver.
@chadchadison2591
@chadchadison2591 4 года назад
everybody gangsta till it fucking homete'd
@RandomGuy9
@RandomGuy9 5 лет назад
You shall not open a bottle with the G36.
@twobrotherscycleanda
@twobrotherscycleanda 5 лет назад
I can't figure out who's got the better job, Ian or automotive journalists.
@WrightOnTarget
@WrightOnTarget 5 лет назад
Ian
@WrightOnTarget
@WrightOnTarget 5 лет назад
Because cars are lame compared to guns
@giggles0051
@giggles0051 5 лет назад
Damn, that's some nice welding!
@Pcm979
@Pcm979 5 лет назад
What does H&K have against captive pins?
@nindger4270
@nindger4270 5 лет назад
I think when they started doing this, someone walked in on the design team and went "Haha! Why don't you make those pins captive, are you stupid?" And then they dug a shallow grave for him and kept doing it like this largely out of spite.
@BradPanoff
@BradPanoff 5 лет назад
If the captive pin is damaged somehow, not out of the question with a combat weapon, it's harder to reassemble the weapon. If a loose pin is lost, you can just swap in a replacement. Ymmv.
@eldiablo7862
@eldiablo7862 5 лет назад
More simple assemble with the push pins....I build M16, G3 and MP5 firearms and the HK style is much easier to work with. The captive pins require a small spring and detent pin that can be a bit annoying to install without proper tools. Both systems have their pros and cons and really just boils down to personal preference.
@ThZuao
@ThZuao 5 лет назад
These weapons are stamped steel. In the AR-15, a channel is drilled perpendicular to pin's axis in the hole of the takedown pin to put in a spring and a little ball to serve as a retainer. That's what that ridge right next to the front pin on the AR is for. In stamped steel, that's not really doable. You could weld a plate to retain a spring and ball to make a similar captive pin system. But that's thinking on how it is done on the american rifle. I think they could have done something with the little spring on the tip of the pins to hold them in place while the gun is assembled.
@23GreyFox
@23GreyFox 5 лет назад
@@stanleyjedrzejczyk2966 Just that german WW2 weapons are simple.
@liliwinnt6
@liliwinnt6 5 лет назад
8:16 nice sound
@welchiemacneil7659
@welchiemacneil7659 5 лет назад
I think this would have been a fantastic service rifle--the robustness and simplicity of the roller lock with the efficient controls of the M16.
@josuelservin2409
@josuelservin2409 5 лет назад
This video does not appear in my subscriptions, nor in the channel video page, I get here via the link at the end of the shooting video...
@TheRogueWolf
@TheRogueWolf 5 лет назад
"Okay. It's a forward assist, but it'll look bad if we just CALL it a forward assist. Karl, grab the dictionary and pick some random words." "Silent... bolt... closure... kumquat... device." "Drop that one word and we'll use the rest." "Silent bolt kumquat device it is!" "Karl, you're fired."
@halo7oo
@halo7oo 5 лет назад
This is just beautiful, cold war weapons seem to look either really good, or really bad.
@CowboyWubWub
@CowboyWubWub 5 лет назад
I would be interested in seeing the G41 sight radius compared to an M16.
@bushmonsterwilhelm6716
@bushmonsterwilhelm6716 5 лет назад
Appreciate it. I was just thinking about finding information about the thing. Thanks
@jannegrey593
@jannegrey593 5 лет назад
Guys at HK really know their stuff. This rifle is perhaps not the best, but it was meant as a compromise gun, since Governments (especially, but not only US government) have their agendas, and don't like changes. In Poland MSBS is finally being bought by army (although for now only for Territorial Defense - the unfortunate child of mentally ill Minister of Defense). We still operate Beryls - although there are now many more variants. Wz. 96 was changed and improved numerous times, "thanks" to lessons and experiences learned from Afghanistan and Iraqi war (I don't even remember how many iterations there were) - which showed that original rifle (variant of an AK really) wasn't really field tested. Of course it is still referred to as wz. 96, though unofficially now produced versions are variants of "wz. 2004" (latest being "wz. 2017" I think). Today produced Beryls look nothing like those produced 20 years ago. My knowledge of guns is limited to what I read - thanks to our Gun Laws that are very (in my opinion - too much) restrictive. While I am not a fan of being able to buy a gun without license, I am also not a fan of being super-restrictive. Also hopefully, from March I will be able to support you on Patreon - either this channel or InRangeTV. So again on the outside Beryl changed a lot (Picatinny rails are practically all over the rifle in some variants), grips, Reflector sights etc. Internal changes as far as I know - Last time I've seriously read on the matter was in 2014 - are minimal. So if I could be your Patreon, would you rather it be to this channel or InRangeTV? And what's your opinion on wz. 96 Beryl? Of course I am an optimist that you will read this.
@jannegrey593
@jannegrey593 5 лет назад
​@@itsnodawayitustabe5654 In a way. Although they are not the same as reserve. The legislation in this case is very murky, but usually it means if you're 18 years old you can register to become soldier in Territorial Defense. It means that you receive basic soldier training, you go back to your job, but you have to spend at least 30 days a year in training (usually in the summer) - Military in theory pays your employer for the trouble (since it doesn't count as a payed leave - you cannot be fired because you were ordered to do your duty - the problem is being hired in the first place). And of course you can be "mobilized" at any moment. Usually the Territorials are sent along military to combat Natural cataclysms, such as floods etc. And there are rumors that Territorial Defense cannot be used outside of the country - of course it is branch of an army, so if you want to, from there you can ask to be reassigned to regular army, and even deployed - though of course you have to go through additional training. Duties are (outside of fighting Natural disasters) to act as a force that would be doing the guerrilla warfare on the lowest way, when country is invaded. At least that one is clear. Guerrilla warfare on the more difficult scale is supposed to be carried out by "AGAT" Special Forces group - which has speciality in unconventional warfare and it's area of expertise is broadly defined as "logistics". There will be some groups that will be specialized in removing the effects of Chemical contamination etc. But because it's tougher to get a job while being a Territorial, only about half of projected personnel is staffed. They say that in the end of 2019 there will be 17 brigades. As of now it is quite of a problem since only 3 brigades can be honestly described (and that's by the loose Territorials standards) as operational. You get some additional money every month (not much - it's only for being ready), and when you train, or when you're mobilized to let's say fight the effects of a flood, you are being payed exactly the same as normal soldiers of your rank. The problem is no-one wants to hire people that serve in Territorial army (which boss would like to have an employee, who has to go for a month and train, or can be called in moments notice to put sandbags on the bank of the river), so at the end of 2017 there were 7600 people there (20.000 are required to fill all positions). Now it is about 8.500 if my information is correct - the official data for 2018 is not available yet.
@jannegrey593
@jannegrey593 5 лет назад
​@@itsnodawayitustabe5654 About MSBS - from what information I have it is far superior to the Beryl. It was supposed to be bought by Army (well, first batch anyway) in 2014, but the government had it's doubts (financial), and military brass while happy to have a new rifle - well, soldiers were more reserved. They have reliable platform - Beryl being arguably the most sophisticated version of an AK - especially after modifications. I'll give you an other example. For years our military wanted to change helmets for our soldiers. Polish factories make some of the best helmets in the world. But soldiers don't want them, because they offer little less protection. Even though on the old ones you have bunch of problems - they're uncomfortable, heavy, cover so much that using headphones is impossible and even rifle scopes is difficult - so basically not suited for modern combat with the modern flow of information. But they are really durable - one of our soldiers in Afghanistan though he got ambushed by some Taliban and hit in the head really bad during firefight. After this he discovered that the helmet stopped an 7,62 mm bullet from AK from a distance of about 30 - 50 m. Obviously they won't always stop it, but they cover such big portion of the head and neck, that on any other helmet, it would be either unprotected (I've heard it being called - translation - "mullet cover"), or wouldn't stop the bullet. That's one incident in 12 years - and soldiers because of it don't want new helmets. Even though it means that Company still has to use messengers (I might be exaggerating a bit - but the whole idea of "new" helmets - some of them began development in early 90's was that every soldier would have a radio link to his commander etc.). I suspect the reason behind Beryl being still in action is 2 fold. 1 - It's good, known quantity - though it is past the limits of modernization. 2 - we had government change in 2015 - which decided to cancel every order (that is going to cost us Billions in compensations and breaking contracts) the previous government did. 5 years ago military didn't want MSBS, now they realize they need it, and they need it Yesterday - the easiest way was to adopt it for Territorials (they bought like 3 for each - which tells me a lot of it is going to end up in some modernized brigades), it will keep company alive, they won't lose the know-how of producing the rifle, and soldiers will get used to that weapon. 5 years ago, there were teething problems, now it is fully developed and long overdue. And it is easy to make almost any kind of rifle of it. M stands for Modular, so there are standard rifles, bullpups, they have versions in at least 4 different calibers, 3 or 4 sizes of barrels etc. Completely ambidextrous, and easy to field strip - though since it is rather complicated design (compared to Beryl) it might be not as easy to field repair - from what I've heard maintenance is still pretty easy on them.
@bobthompson4319
@bobthompson4319 3 года назад
Also when closing the bolt with a round in the chamber it will need help to get the extractor over the cartridge rim. You can use the forward assist on the AR/M-16 rifles for the same thing. And as we all know it's all you should really use it for.
@YouDice
@YouDice 5 лет назад
Great video as usual.
@aaronskuse2207
@aaronskuse2207 Год назад
And now we have PTR making this as their 63 model. I mean, I’m happy it’s being done, but they were so close to making an HK33 copy due to the PTR-32.
@Prmni
@Prmni 5 лет назад
Something weird is going on with this video, I was unable to find it from my "subscriptions" tab or the channel uploads, I had to search for it specifically to find it
@carriertaiyo2694
@carriertaiyo2694 5 лет назад
That looks like a really good gun! I am surprised nobody wanted it...
@ohredhk
@ohredhk 5 лет назад
Appearently this gun quite expensive, specially if you compare to m16 which is produced in huge quatity. Just this alone is enough to prevent people from buying it
@jessicasimp4459
@jessicasimp4459 5 лет назад
More HK clips because of their inventory of underrated but effective weaponry.
@WrightOnTarget
@WrightOnTarget 5 лет назад
>HK >Underrated You gotta pick one
@natorious314
@natorious314 5 лет назад
Other than the giant forward assist I really like the look of this rifle.
@edwardsallow6518
@edwardsallow6518 2 года назад
It takes everything good about the g3 and makes it better
@Chevypotamus
@Chevypotamus 5 лет назад
This is interesting given that their trying this again with the 433
@WeAreSoBackBros
@WeAreSoBackBros 5 лет назад
How did you....
@Dhari1
@Dhari1 5 лет назад
@@WeAreSoBackBros Patreon supporters have early access. I'm not on Patreon but I fully understand why this is done. :)
@nindger4270
@nindger4270 5 лет назад
Uh..no, mechanically the 433 is a cheaper 416, they just went back to the old style charging handle for nostalgia reasons as far as I can tell.
@hansmeyer7225
@hansmeyer7225 5 лет назад
@@Dhari1 Nooo its magic. I repeat *MAGIC!*
@charlesmartel9502
@charlesmartel9502 5 лет назад
Yes, the 433... the ACR that speaks with a German accent.
@DanceMonkeychg
@DanceMonkeychg 5 лет назад
This video is still in my Watch history and you can find it if you search for it, but it has disappeared from my subscription feed, and is no longer visible on your RU-vid page. Friggin' RU-vid is screwing around again.
@gerrard71
@gerrard71 3 года назад
1% Positive Comment 0.2% Negative Comment 99.9% H O M E T E
@LikeMint_
@LikeMint_ 3 года назад
lol
@MrRickRoffel
@MrRickRoffel 5 лет назад
I nearly cry thinking about that something like this could have been adopted over the G36
@jitaek01
@jitaek01 5 лет назад
Thatcher: Fookin laser sights...
@lemmy8947
@lemmy8947 5 лет назад
It's called the hk g41 as 33+16=41, it was also made in 1941
@lemmy8947
@lemmy8947 5 лет назад
@Charlie homie that is flawless math right there
@alexralston22
@alexralston22 3 года назад
Look at all those welds! The g41 is trying to fit in;)
@BjarteHein
@BjarteHein 3 года назад
The 3rd pin (in the G3) was put back into the front hole in the handguard when I did my service.
@turbowolf302
@turbowolf302 5 лет назад
Does anyone know of a good semi-auto clone representation of this rifle? I actually quite like what it has to offer, and I do enjoy being that bastard that just HAS to be different at the range, and I find the average selection of AR-15s to be....just all the same... it's all the same and I'm tired of it. Did the Drunk Monkeys with Arc Welders over at Century ever punch out semi-auto G41s? I know they made HK33 rewelds, but I like the availability of STANAG magazines.
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