This is seriously one of HK's most underrated firearms in their lineup. I've noticed new prices on these creeping way up over the price of the P30. A lot of people want to slam this for being an outdated design, I think it's really stood the test of time and will still be an excellent pistol for decades to come.
I think most of the HK line up is underrated , and certainly doesn’t seem like they get the attention it deserves from the community. I get it, it’s DA / SA but that gets a wrap worse than it deserves and I understand they are a couple hundred to several hundred dollars more than a Glock but your getting what you pay for imo. Also difficult to locate a decent number of them in shops it seems. But I love them.
I remember for a little while there before the pandemic you could find a p30 for 550. That's when I bought mine. Even after paying my ffl I came away less than 600. I had to sell it and was thinking about buying a new one and they're back up to 800🤦♂️ so mad I sold it now
@@diceydie-c hmmm that does seem a little high for P30, more like p2000 range , at least from what I’ve seen as they run higher than p30s. It is funny the variance in pricing from shop to shop, easily 50 to 100 differences some times 150 at times. I own several used ones now, in fact maybe a 1/3 of them are used and I can say no functional differences, sure some have slide wear, others didn’t have a case or papers which drives me nuts but run just like the new ones. Granted I look them over pretty throughly and usually change out a recoil spring, but I’ll also say most of the used ones I come across are in great shape to begin with.
@@BIGGIEBAG-XL it really is the ideal size. Heck I sometimes carry it with the 17 round mag but for summer time in shorts and a t-shirt it doesn't always conceal as well as I'd like, so the 13 rounder it is. I do like the p30sk as well... But the only difference is the barrel length with the 13 round sk mag.
I just got one 2006 made for 300 . Been sitting there and stores in my area can’t sell 40 at all . Hysterical thank you 9mm only guys for making this lose so much in used price .
While having as many rounds as any of my 3 glocks the p2000 hits different, they knew what they were doing with this pistol. Quite a hidden gem as some may say....one of the most under-rated pistols. I truly feel in 2024 we've come full circle with "carry guns" and have seen alot of ppl going back to a more simple platform instead of the latest and greatest....
Great comment, I think most of the HK line is completely under rated / misunderstood given guns shops don’t carry many and thus people don’t come across them much so they don’t get to see and hear about them. I not quite sure we’re past all the Gucci and race guns yet, certainly a place for all of that in our community, but I agree a simplier Uber reliable firearm should be one of the first buying criteria for carry. I absolutely cringe when I see pics of these modified guns with broken or snapped aftermarket triggers and other issues. I sincerely hope many of those are not finding their way into carry holsters- but then I’m old,school.
I love mine in a .40 with the P30 9mm conversion barrel. I had a bit of a learning curve coming from Glock and PX4 but living in a 10-round state was a factor in this purchase. Although I learned over the years to be proficient with it; I ended up trying a Hogue Beavertail grip that was designed for the Springfield XD-E and it just feel like butter in the hand and shoots even softer. The recoil system is barnone, but that thick spring is hard to dry out after cleaning because you cannot disassemble the recoil assembly without force and the right tools. If HK did a slight redesign on the slide; it would become more relevant today. People love the feel and appearance of front slide serrations. If they redesigned it similar to the HK45c, I think it would attract the younger tactical dudes of today.
Solid comments and good points, there is always a learning curve with the hammer fired guns but ultimately I think they are an excellent choice for ccw and still quite popular in mil circles especially overseas but that too continues to go the way of the Glock, but I completely understand the market currently and the ease for new or newer shooters to come up to speed quicker with a striker fired gun. I think that we continue to see hammer guns from HK, Sig, CZ even FN although they have dropped the FNX9 which is a bit of a shame, is a good sign. I’m not sure we’ll ever see the civil market truly make its way in the HK dna as they seem to have an extreme focus almost on mil and LE , which I think is what also makes the brand appealing to many of us, seems like the VP9 maybe closest to a shift in thinking there.
To answer your question about why we dont see more .40 s&w p2000s on the used market. First these are no longer in federal service. Next, federal agencies, specifically CBP and Border Patrol, do not allow their officers to keep their firearms when they leave or retire. The weapon is destroyed with very few exceptions (if any). When these agencies switched to their new sidearms (I believe Glock) all the p2000s in current use were destroyed. This has resulted in very few government contract p2000s escaping to the used market.
Thanks for the information, as sad as that is. I thought perhaps the feds / us govt had changed thier tune on that as I know they had destroyed firearms in the past.
I got my P2000 40 S&W in about year 2004-5. I like the double/single action with the decocker for safety reasons. It's a well built handgun and is high quality and fun to shoot. I keep it on my nightstand with a TLR-2 for the laser and light.
Thanks for the comment, couldn’t agree more and HK does a nice job with their recoil reducing system / spring on the .40, at least my USP does a very good job.
I bought a P2000 last year, over the P30 - slightly smaller w/13 rd mags (but H&K P30/VP9 17 round mags with the X Grip spacer function perfectly). Pleasure to shoot and will gobble up anything you feed it with 100% reliability, even fouling Egyptian surplus ammo I use as a "torture test". Added an oversized mag release paddle as the standard was troublesome for me to actuate, which I'd advise everyone to do. Also added a Wolff 11 pound hammer spring, Handleit griptape, and Trijicon night sights. I like a slightly heavier trigger pull for a CCW but after break-in, it's DA trigger pull was reduced from the OEM hammer spring and it's smooth throughout DA pull. SA is a bit long, but not objectionably so and is also smooth and without staging. May be a "dated" design, but so is the 1911, and this pistol exudes quality, durability, and reliability. This is one of a small number of pistols I own I'll never sell.
Hey thanks for the great comments. I find my 2000 doesn’t get grabbed as much as my usp compact, just love that thing , but my 2000sk is pulling more and more CCW time. I like both the p30sk and p2000sk but feel the 2000sk to be just a little more compact to me. I’ve never had an issue w the mag release but may have to try a larger one just to see what’s it’s like. Feel the exact same way about the dated design comments from others and yet 1911 is still relevant. I think it all comes down to what you want out of the pistol and what your ultimate goal / mission requirements are for it.
I love my p2000. I changed mine from da/sa to 4.1 LEM. (Reduced take up LEM) with gg short reset kit. 10 lb hammer spring made by Wolff, and it’s about 3.5 lb pull everytime. Put on the 45c mag release, slim slide releases, tlr7a light, milled the slide from wright armory and sporting a holosun 508t on there. I’ll have to get those grips! It’s a tack driver and super reliable. I carry the flush mags without the elephant toe for CCW and I have a backup p30 17 round mag with the x spacer on it.
Did you swap out factory sights for supressor height to co-witness or did you even need to, if so, what sights did you install? Slip pickings for p2000 tall sights. Best I can find are trijicon for $130
Awesome video. The one thing about the comparison between the V1 & V3 I believe though, is the trigger pull weight. The V1 is more similar to the V2, as far as same pull every time, but the V1 is significantly lighter, being a consistent 4.5lbs. A v2 can easily be converted to this same setup by replacing the Trigger return spring to a light version, and dropping the hammer spring from 12 lbs - to 11 lbs. Either way, loved the detail. You’ve added a new subscriber
Hey thanks really appreciate it. Thanks for the additional info on the different HK Variants, that is one detail I need to spend some more time on. Probably I should do a video on it as well as I think there is some confusion out there or at least it’s a topic we should cover off and spend some more time with.
@@thedailydefender1408 no problem at all. I get confused as well with all of the variants at times. To sum it up, here is the breakdown. Variant 0 is a hammer down variant (even when chambered), and has a trigger pull of 4.5 lbs. But does have a decocker, and spurred hammer (decocker placed to provide an optional 11.5 trigger pull on first shot). V1 - Same as V0, but removes the decocker, and spurred hammer (providing the spurless V2 hammer), but has a 4.5 lb consistent trigger pull. V2 - same as V1 -but has a 7.5 lb trigger pull V3 - DASA model, offering 11.5 lb pull hammer down, and 4.5 lb pull on follow up shots (spurred hammer, and decocker included). V4 - basically the same as a V2, but has a 6.5 lb pull. V5 - Double action only, with a consistent 8.5 lb pull. I learned these due to originally owning a V3 model. I ended up changing part out, creating a V0, but with a spurless hammer. I am a bigger guy, and appendix carry. The hammer spurr was killing me while sitting😂. But to avoid leaving a gaping hole at eye level, I elected to leave the decocker (V3 models are designed differently, providing room for the decocker placement). Although never used while carrying, I have the option, should I want a more defensive trigger pull on the first shot (heavier pull). FYI, if you do want to lighten the trigger (down to 4.5 lbs consistently), the trigger return spring is a frustrating ordeal. You'll want to replace it with a light trigger return spring. If you replace your hammer spring, I wouldn't go below 11 lbs. I had attempted the 10 pounder, but began getting light primer strikes. The 11 lb hammer spring seems to be the sweet spot, in regards to the known HK reliability. And with going from the stock 12 pound spring down to 11 pounds, your trigger pull will be reduced to just shy of 4 lbs. Hope that helps. And again, love the detail of your videos. I enjoyed the thoroughness from start to finish. I look forward to more videos in the future.
Hmmmm, interesting haven’t heard that. I could see that potentially though, the p30 is the most current design in that series and there is still a mystique to the USP and I believe there are some mil units still running them, heck I think Polish GROM just recently moved to Glock (say last couple of years). The p2000 is a great pistol but I think it falls into a gap now of the USP and its spotlight and the ‘modern’ P30, but just my opinion.
New subscriber. Nice review. I just purchased a P2000 from Sportsman"s Warehouse here in California. This is one of the few great handguns left on the unconstitutional Roster. I'm excited to get it out to the range when it gets out of California jail.
Good to hear. I like how it felt and the design and weight!, along with grips fit a larger hand. 9MM. Ide like a safety. I was not a fan of the trigger, felt cheap and like a pellet gun! I would consider upgrading trigger (H&K), as well as sights and the larger mag release (H&K) offers... Need to watch how you paint yours. fyi Sportsman's Warehouse is selling the P2000 V3 with OD lower for $799 ouch
Hey thanks for the comment. It’s funny you mention the cheap or what I feel as a heavy plastic trigger or your pellet gun analogy because I get the same take away. I really love HK but there are a few funny quirks to them and the trigger is one but they work, and never hear of that component failing. I think the metal trigger and SRT from Sig is better but really at the end of the day it’s all da/ sa, pull the trigger and it goes bang.
@@kmern6979 I think it’s a pretty cool set up, great trigger and each time I pick one up I think it’s better than my 365. Just don’t see many of them or hear to much about them minus initial info. But I really like what I’ve seen / felt so far.
Thanks I’ll have to check that out, I was in a shop about a week ago talking about it and they agreed that NATO was essentially +P , which is interesting because I’ve never paid that much attention to that in the past.
You’ll like that LEM trigger, I think it’s one of the best in the business. The Sig DAK is a little unique in its design and function but every time I shoot it and refamilerize myself with it, I forgot how effect it is too and just how well the Sig P series pistols shoot .40 cal, I have to give them the nod over HK on that one, IMO.
I’ve been wanting one of these for a while and finally shot my friends P2000 V2 LEM and the trigger wasn’t for me but I did buy the V3 with three mags and night sights.
Thanks for the comment, the LEM takes a little getting use to but it’s a neat concept that does work well IMO if you jump into the deep end and work with it. Not sure how much you shot it but I’d bet with about 2-4 boxes in you’d get quite comfortable with it. The Sig DAK is a different animal altogether but again if it’s all you shot or it was your issued sidearm, you’d master it quickly. Trickiest part is going to the range with a half dozen different trigger types trying to remember the exact touch and feel to them all.
I'm not a fan of it either. My gf has a P2000SK with the LEM trigger. It works for her because she hasn't the finger strength for DA. I do. I like the safety aspect of the DA trigger and the ease of the SA trigger.
@@Lexicologist1971 I like them both actually generally I like DA/SA but then start shooting the LEM and I’m like “oh yea, that’s kind of cool”. I go back and forth….
I like the standard grips. They don't eat my flesh while I carry the gun all day long IWB. I've carried a 40 S&W P2000 for over 2 years. I converted it to 357 Sig a few months ago. The gun is awesome. I keep hearing that 40 is snappy. The only H&K 40 that is "snappy" is my P2000SK. I've also converted it to 357 Sig. It is less snappy, now.
I believe they do which I just came across myself. My understanding is the p2000, p30 and USP compact in 9mm all use the same metal mags. The USP 9mm full size uses the poly mags.
@@Lexicologist1971 sorry yes, I think I read that original question too quickly, 2000sk mags would be too short for the 2000 but I was in a shop this weekend and I did confirm the p30sk mags will fit in the p2000sk, which is pretty cool, especially if you own both. I’m still of the opinion that 2000sk is a slimmer , slightly smaller pkg than the 30sk. I can see that p2000sk becoming a serious contender for summer carry.
@@thedailydefender1408 The SK P-2000 is certainly on my 'short list' for warm weather carry but finding one to fondle is really tough. A local shop has the full sized P-2000,so I'm looking at it tomorrow...before it turns up missing too!😯
@@charlesbeall2589 I found the 2000sk to be a much better fit for my hand than I originally anticipated it would be and unless I need a gun to disappear like a Sig 365, the 2000sk will be my summer carry. For whatever reason it just seems smaller / thinner than my p30sk although the dims are very similar.