H.L.M.S. - Tallgeese series, Justice For WuFei 

yeah 15gs of acceleration is very much in the lethal range for humans for any extended period of time. Really anything past 6 is looking at "you're a fighter piolet having a very bad day." and the highest even they get up to is about 9 for just a small period of time...

I've read somewhere before (when GOL wasn't out yet), that Treize designed Epyon, TG 2 & 3 together during his exile but decided to finish first Epyon to counter the threat of Wing Gundam Zero being the strongest MS at that time. Further, his 1st design of Epyon was supposed to have both armaments of the TG 3 but changed it to just having a boosted beam saber and heat rod due to chivalrous reasons. Also Treize planned to equip all of them with the Epyon system (similar with ZERO system), but only Epyon and TG 3 were equipped with it. Moreover, Treize planned to take TG 3 into battle with Libra but due to additional design mods made by him it was not finished and instead took the TG 2 color modified. Originally TG 2 had same color scheme with TG 3 but the change (obviously patterned with Treize outfit color scheme by the creators) was so it could be identified easily by soldiers in the battle field (that explains the plumage). Lastly, when the Preventers found the unfinished TG 3, they completed it using just the base design of TG 1. It was never clear what were the modifications in the design Treize wants with the TG 3 but it was only the beam cannon and heat shield rod was finished. Perhaps the final design could have been a gundamish looking MS since he intended the TG 3 to be a counter against Epyon and Libra at the same time.

The first Tallgeese also had a beam rifle. And Tallgeese III had head vulcans.

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I disagree. The OG is by far the most best looking and most iconic.

Yeah I agree with you the tallgeese 3 looks the most powerful too

No argument. I love them all, but tallgeese 3 is fantastic.

@@MC-pt8kv I'd say both Tallgeese III and Tallgeese.

I disagree I like 2 the best and then OG 3 doesn't fit the theme at all. Let's start at the the top and work down. The Spartan crest on the OG looks cool no issues there, and the white paint theme adds to the idea it's unfinished. Tres finishing it in his signature blue, gold and white makes sense no issues there, then topping it off with a knight's plume shows progress in a way that makes sense. But adding a mandate looks out of place. Not to mention Preventers should have done dark green accents which is their signature color, Instead it looks like they ran out of paint part way through. Unlike the gundam helmets Tallgeese doesn't look a kabuto helmet; That make the mendate on it look... goofy, especially since they took 01's face plate off. Next the cannon, OG and 2 cannons look legit they look like they might actually work (almost... Where does the bolt reciprocate?). 3's cannon looks like a rail gun but fires a laser? A laser that doesn't have an emitter that even looks like anything else in the GW universe..... Stupid. It should have just had the square emitter so you could rationalize his salvinging it from Vayeate or a drone suite. Then the shield, firstly the physics of the "whip" (or as I like to call it awkward chainsaw chain) are dubious at best, ineffective and provided zero benefit over the sword. It would have made more sense to use it to hold the rocket launcher and pistol like before or just have the spike on the end for jabbing, Secondly It's upside down, Kite shields don't get held like a darksouls game. How do we know? Paintings, common sense, the hand holds; also Tallgeese doesn't ride a horse so a a smaller heater would make even more sense, but my biggest problem is def the whip it's just stupid. Basically everything they changed is a mess. The body is the body which is fine unless Zex was set on his weebo ambitions then he should have samuraized the rest of it. My perfect kit bash would have Tallgeese II's frame and paint scheme, Retain the Dobber Gun, salvage Epyon's sword, Just take the Whip's last spike end and put some extra magazines for the for the cannon or the pistol, rocket launcher, or even an old Zaku's hand grenades or axe if the mission called for it, in the shield. You would basically loose nothing over the 3. In fact you would likely gain a speed boost, fire rate from the gun and more versatility. I would keep OG face though.Zex should have done Red accents which is his signature color, Instead it looks like ran out of paint part way through. Unlike the gundam helmets Tallgeese doesn't look a kabuto helmet; That make the mendate on it look... goofy. Next the cannon, OG and 2 cannons lo

Man 15 straight line must me enormous when turning. Turning Gs are far more intense.

Is it fifteen G' or fifty ? Either way our fighter pilots take like 5 to 10 Gs so yeah.

That’s someone who got the knowledge, this is explained very well!

Piloting the Tallgesse is as physically more demanding than flying the F-16 Viper.

Wait fighters pull 7+G straight line?

@@zethythonix Don't know the maximum speed of the Tallgeese but I doubt it's much higher than Mach 1 in atmosphere, it's just not a shape that could handle it even with enough brute force to get it there, so seen as a 10 second acceleration at 15G's would get you to around Mach 4.4 I think a 2 or 3 second 'boost' of 15G's would top it out, wouldn't be comfortable but easily survivable and with few if any damage to the pilot as long as there is nothing loose in the cockpit(that would most definetly suck for the pilot).

Thanks for the detail explanation!

"Extremely uncomfortable" is a massive understatement to how much 15Gs actually is.

15gs Straight Line means it pulls massively more Gs when turning under thrust.

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@@zethythonix LOL. That's true too. Anyway, what my friend meant by that was that Wing was the story of 2 people (because the only 2 who moved the plot along were Treize and Zechs) trying to decide what to eat (Zechs and Treize's main conflict with each other was figuring out how to end war) then escalating into eating leftovers at home (by the end, they fought against each other in a final war) except for 49 episodes (the rest doesn't matter).

Yeah your explanation is correct, did I really said it wrong? Why is everyone saying that I said 50G when I said 15G XD

Tallgeese was always different because it was a gundam like with gundam powers but not being filly gundam I'm design or name..... when everything in AUs that's worth the power is a gundam type (except for maybe relienglaze juila)

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Very funny how things turned out, ay?

Reminds me of the time when Zechs and Heero traded gundams with each other in the anime like two kids who liked each other's toy more than their own lol

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and the wing zero is even faster

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Wing zero is the upcoming episode!

@@zethythonix I thought it was just the Wing Gundam? Either way that just made my day

@@justinandrew5849 wing zero was developed before wing Gundam according to the history line, which was why the whole episode is based on wing Gundam itself

@@zethythonix This is true lol Can't wait for that video!

Thanks! Glad that you liked the video!

I want to start my own Gundam story since I was a kid, but I can’t draw neither write a good story

@@zethythonix I can write a decent script. That's technically where it starts, but we need good models of Gundams as well as enemy models

@@zekeodima3708 I already have the concepts of the Gundams, MP type MS and MSV designs

@@zethythonix what's the difference between all the types like the Ms and what not...?

Gundams = Protagonist, Prototypes for future Mass-Production Plan, Generally Strong Mass Production MS = cheap, easy for pilots, heavily scale down from the Gundam design, able to mass produce in a short time, and easy to modify due to the unified design MSV = Gundams or mass produce MS appeared in side stories or never existed, it can be test units, potential concepts that got scrapped, weapon testing, full armor concept, environmental concept, or different variations extended from one design

Never heard of it before

Sure. After the Duel and Buster video

I don’t think that’s Tallgeese III? Never read any information about your mention

@@zethythonix the Wiki labels it as an interface system that's the precursor to the Epyon System.

Most definitely. The Tallgeese II was superior to the original in every way. One of the reasons I believe Zechs refused to duel Treize is because of the real chance Trieze would win. It's really understated how good of a pilot Treize was.

@@SniperCR39 On that we are completely agreed. Zechs couldn't risk a duel with Treize when his plan was about to come to fruition. And it was Heero that he really wanted to fight anyway. Treize knew the Epyon inside and out because he built it. And that likely was Zech's biggest worry.

@@Felix24148 Yep. Treize piloting techniques utilizes precision and no wasted movements, and Zechs loves to show out. Despite Epyon's superior speed and agility Trieze's style would probably win out...

@@SniperCR39 Well both the Epyon and Tallgeese were MS designed for duels. The Epyon was superior technologically speaking. But it had limited armaments. Treize was extremely intimate with it's design and performance, as well as that of the Tallgeese. Plus Treize was so dangerous not just for his skills, but also his genius. Who else was known for that? Amuro Ray, that's who. Amuro wasn't just a powerful Newtype, he was a genius that knew exactly how his MS worked, and exactly how many aspects of his enemy's machine worked, an was fully capable of designing and repairing his own unit. That's what made him so unbelievably dangerous. When you combine wicked skills of either mutation, natural talent, or extreme discipline, then add in genius level intellect with combat and strategy, then add in the mind of a scientist or engineer. Both Amuro Ray and Treize check those boxes. Treize very well could have only been taken down by someone like Heero Yuy who had the abilities to match him. Heero was genetically augmented to have superior strength and intellect, and was military trained from a very young age. Both by Doctor J and his own father, who was ironically the assassin who killed the real Heero Yuy. Someone like Heero was truly the match Treize needed to fight. Instead he allowed himself to be killed by Wufei so he wouldn't have to exist in the post war era. An end I still hate to one of the most talented people of his time. Treize was so smart that he was actually aware of the Gundams before Operation Meteor even took place. And had already begun taking measures before they arrived. Which is why he was able to build the Epyon to begin with since he had a personal factory fully stocked with materials ready to go on his own property. He likely built the Epyon using reverse engineered designs from the Wing Gundam when Zechs had it rebuilt. And filled in the technological gaps with his own technology. Who else besides the scientists who created the Gundams could do that?

@@Felix24148 Epyon was limited in armaments because because it didn't need any additional armaments. A testament to Treize's genius. The dude literally took over the world twice! I do believe though that Epyon's Zero system showed him his death. That's why he resigned himself to defeat. I also believe he wanted to duel Epyon as well hence why he gave it to Heero. As we all know however Heero gave it to Zechs instead because he didn't understand Treize and didn't want to. All Heero understood was that he would become an unstoppable killing machine if he continued to pilot it. Heero's piloting style also revolves around precision. What separates Heero from everyone else though is his direct get the job done no matter what approach. He doesn't care how many hits he takes or how ugly it is. (ex. Crashing the Wing Gundam into the ground why transforming into MS mode. Dude is just crazy like that. 🤣

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@@zethythonix splendid ! 👏 I would love to see it in the future

After WuFei

Wing's story is the After Colony timeline, in that timeline, Tallgeese is the first of the first

Epyon system? You mean ZERO system? No the T3 don’t have any system like that

@@zethythonix thanks for the info must be an error in the wikki then. When talking about the interface being related to the epion system it didn’t make much sense since the epion has the zero system installed not its own thing

@@zethythonix actually it had more or less the prototype of the Epyon System installed in it, nowhere near as demanding as the actual system but didn't have all the mind messing effects either

I did, just recently

@@zethythonix That's cool - w- I only got the RG with some mods parts set

Try the RG, all 3 of them were awesome

I actually like the T3 instead lol

I said 15...

@@zethythonix sorry I heard 50, 15 G's will be breaking bones though

They are both pretty good, but I like the T3 better

Well it is possible in the GW universe. Wing Zero was destroyed by the recoil of its Buster Riffle in endless waltz though only because it had been heavily damaged by that point, and I can only guess beam blaster weapons create those beams by creating small energy reactions similar to nuclear fission then direct those outward so its probable higher level reactions would create larger reactions and thus more recoil

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@@sunrisespartan1765 oh ok , i have never watched gundam wing before

Should be after the five Gundams

Yes, I will

@@zethythonix thanks, i know it will be short, i just want to know how wu fei copied(or not) it... 😁

Thanks for the explanation!

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@@zethythonix thank you

Zechs never lower the output whether in anime or manga, so he mastered it by himself, it’s anime anyway, so people handling 15G will happen for sure. Even at one point, Tallgeese can’t react to his thoughts and became too slow for Zechs (you can see the details when he was fighting Taurus)

@@zethythonix I always found it kind of BS Zeches was able to master Tallgeese. I mean the series took place over only a year or so (Relena's birthday was basically the start and her next Birthday was the end) and it would take years of physical training to get your body to be able to even handle a few more Gs of gravity let alone the Tallgeese

The weapon of tallgesse 3 called rail gun or mega cannon.

Now color it red so itll be much faster

I don’t really know the impact...

Perhaps I should include the line about all Gundams can use it, but forgive me if I sounded rude, manga is part of the settings so we should respect it. There’s no such thing called anime fact or manga fact

@@zethythonix it's fine just different info for us who only watched the anime

15G not 50G, I think I said it correctly

@@zethythonix Okay, I probably misheard then. 15G is potentially survivable in extremely short amounts of time. It would still cause serious injury in most cases and there is no way a person could keep conscious and pilot a machine though. Not unless some fictional technology was used to help the pilot withstand high G forces.

Its actually more confusing IMO. I mean he fights for a woman but acts like a total douche towards them in the series.

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Technically many of them do. They involve the world so obviously they would take place in the US or whatever it would be referred to in that universe, and I doubt everyone would have one, they are very costly and if anyone could afford one then in real life everyone could own their own tank or jet

I LOVE EPYON

@@zethythonix That's cool, you just keep on loving the Wannabe Dark Gundam! 😉

Because I saw a lot of people just straightly saying that he is an idiot and shouldn’t in the anime. This backstory was planned when the anime was out but the producer just didn’t put in the anime which was why a lot of people misunderstood him

NGL, but that backstory doesn't justify anything :/. Also believe it or not, more people actually like him more than dislike him. Besides if we are talking about being an idiot almost every cast in Wing is one anyway, so Wu fei isn't alone.

@@zethythonix a backstory doesn't justify how he acts nor does it justify him never growing out of his bs