I watched another Canadian team load up with a bunch of offensive forwards, then I watched them struggling to get out of their own end for the next three years. This is an unpopular move but maybe management saw a lot more developmental upside to Reinbacher. Since D men take extra time to develop, they may take that forward next year.
Habs are covering their asses .. they got Slaf as the first overall pick.. and so, they want results fast. They did not want to wait Michkov 5 yrs.. Tbey got a Reinbacher.. a responsible D that will shine in the +\- .. nothing fancy but will contribute to win games… They want to also make an easier job for Monty.
@@anthonytiramani-ct3tt Reinbacher isn't playing here next year, he's finishing school, and when he does come in two years, he may not be NHL ready, so he will probably spend time in Laval, so it may take 3 years before we see him full time, which is the same amount of time we would have had to wait for Michkov, OR they could have taken Ryan Leonard, I think that's a better pick anyway, he's going to be an exciting player to watch. We got a defensive defenseman who scored 3 goals in the Swedish Elite League last year, so dont get your hopes too high. Im sure he will be a great defensive defenseman, and every team needs at least one, but to get it with the 5th overall pick with so much talent left available, we r going to regret this one for a LONG time.
Went to the world Junior bottom team games in Halifax this year, and watched all 3 games. Even saw mark the burger man bergevan. This kid stood out from the rest, especially on the Dmen. Great player
A rare right handed D. Montreal are pushing for a run in 2 seasons. You have a D core that is legit, plus you have entry level deals to save money to add big name forwards to support the youth up front. Overall a smart move. Defence wins cups!
Who do we have offensively except Suzuki and Caufield that is proved in this league ? Dach, Slaf, Newhook are all project. We don't know there full potential yet and habs once again went for the safe pick and picked for needs and not the best available player. ONCE AGAIN !!!!!
@@chazlucifer Florida was a Wild Card team and Boston was the President's Trophy Winner, One team made it to the Stanley Cup Final, the other team was eliminated in the 1st Round. Standings mean nothing in the Playoffs; all that matters is getting into the Playoffs and getting your 1-16 shot at winning the Cup.
Great pick ! A good D plays >20 min per game...not many forwards do that. He has the potential to be a terrific defenseman. Lets hope he is as good as Seider who went #6
I don't know why so many are getting bent out of shape with this pick. Reinbacher is a solid player and very talented defenceman which Montreal desperately needs on the back end. Hughes is building a foundation and no team ever goes deep into the playoffs without a good defence. Everyone take a deep breath and forget the so called "sexy" pick. I personally think the kid is going to be a great addition to the club and congratulations to him.
Nothing wrong with taking the best Defensemen in the draft and he plays RD. All the people being critical need to understand something, you can not trade for a top RD without paying high prices for it whether through FA or trades. When you have a chance to draft one you do it!
What will we pay for a high scoring game changer ? At the end of the day, we over paid for a defensive defence man that will be second or third pairing
@@amurgatroyd Thats his floor right now, his ceiling is top pair shut down D with offence. That doesnt sound like 3rd pairing D. Even if he doesnt progress much more he is a 2nd pair.
Honestly we got our forward yesterday with Newhook...but Right Defense are insane rare and honestly he is more of a 2 way than a pure defensive one. Elite prospect has the same analysis. He definitively was the best D.
@@Rrabows Do you want me to list all the bad decisions hockey managements did in the past ?! A few names for you McDonah for Gomez Sergachev for Drouin Beaulieu Tinordy Galchenyuk Kotkaniemy So.. i am not allowed an opinion ? Get bent.
I had a similar reaction when the pick was made but the more I think about it, the more I understand it. A top 4 D core of Hutson, Reinbacher, Guhle and Mailloux will be scary in the future!
Who they gonna pass 2? Pezetta on the 2nd line? What about barron harris xhekaj kova matheson trudeau struble norlinder. This team just drafted abunch of goalies and defence in the deepest forward draft ever but we cant score goals
Toronto and Edmonton have stacked up with offensive talent. Where has that got them in the last 10 years? Defense wins championships. Now, our priority is finding a petention number one goalie.
Alot of people said similar things about Moritz Seider in 2019. I don't think we should panic yet. We have lots of forward prospects and we could possibly get even more next year.
I'm disappointed. I feel like the Habs just drafted Jarred Tinordi for the second time but this time, there was great offensive players available. Yes, I have to give him time and yes, he might turn out to be good but with the Defensemen they already have in the system, I was hoping they would draft an offensive forward. I still can't believe Michkov and Leonard where still available. They could have waited till next summer to draft a defenseman.. Sigh,....
@@robertgosselin14 I'm not comparing the players play styles.. I'm expressing that I feel the same way about the Habs picking a none flashy defensemen with their first pick. And it sucked to see such offensive talents go. I'm not bashing the kid BTW. I just don't like where he was picked by the Canadiens. Had they picked him at 18th, I wouldn't have mind so much.
Reinbachers “lack” of offensive game is overstated. He had 22 points in 46 games as an 18 year old d-man in the 3rd best league in Europe (only a small handful of players in this draft played against tougher competition). He had 3 goals, 12 primary assists and 7 secondary assists, so 0.33 primary pts/game as a d-man in his draft year is actually quite good. But more importantly, it’s not like he hasn’t reached his offensive ceiling. He’s 18 so of course there’s lots of room to grow.
The Red Wings fans were also disappointed because of Moritz Seider four years ago. Today they are happy to have him on the team! I also expected a different pick and hope Jack Hughes did the right thing. Have trust people, we have no other choice. Go Habs go. I hope that the best and most well-known team in the world will soon be able to build on successful times again. Greetings from Meran, South Tyrol, Europe.
Maybe a smart decision in the long run. D man tend to take longer to develop than forwards so maybe we get a high pick again next year and get an offensive player. Then Reinbacher has another year under his belt. one thing is for sure, Habs D core will be the envy of the league in a few years.
As fans, we still haven't swallowed the Kotkaniemi fiasco, last year was somewhat of a surprise and this year...That! Slaf is still a question mark and now we've added another one. I REALLY hope they both become very good players if just for our sanity's sake.😅
Right handed D are hard to come by but damn!!!!! I have faith he is going to be solid. Come playoff time we will probably be so happy we have him but damn…. We were all thinking a player that would help us get to the playoffs. This pick felt like putting the cart before the horse.
Our team is nowhere near good enough to make the playoffs 😂 get off the pipe. You need talent to make the playoffs and make the playoffs before you can judge whether you have playoff performers on your squad
@@ren2871 I think you miss understood my comment. I was saying Reinbacher is going to be good in the playoffs. But he isn’t going to be much help to get into the playoffs. Obviously we are not playoff contenders yet. But when this pick is blooming it would have been nice to have a forward that can score goals to get us into the playoffs.
@@jhenz1926 the Habs can't get out of their own way. They simply can't, they're allergic to skill and making the obvious choice. Two years into the rebuild, you come out with Slaf and Reinbacher with pick #1 and #5, yikes. These aren't franchise players, these are complementary pieces at best. It's not getting you into the playoffs. Montreal still has one of the worst and least inspiring cores in the NHL.
i was surprised with a d pick but the brass know more than i do so i trust them ~ reinbacher was the first d pick followed by 7 more in the first round & all european except for 2 canadians ~ reinbacher was top rated d for central scouting & 6th for The Hockey News ~ european skaters were top loaded with d so im glad we got the best one regardless of the d position ~ trust my friend trust ~
Reinbacher seems like a good and safe pick. This guy looks like a 20 minute a night for 10 years player to me. Maybe he won't be a "star" but I like the pick
We're not even sure this guy will EVER leave Russia lol, big gamble, there's a reason why he fell to 7. If he was from anywhere else than Russia he would've been 2nd or 3rd overall
I am from Austria! Soccer is in Europe Nr. 1. There are about 3 teams, that have money without end! Resouces without End, the best players in the world! ... but every year most of them fail, because money can't buy ❤. A Top trainer, top players with talent, the willingnness to give everything, the preparedness to lernen and to grow and a ❤ is what you need - then everything is possible!
With 5 of 6 top 6 guys, maybe getting the top D this year was more priority? Dach Suzuki Newhook Caufield Slafkosky Package later on with a top D and forward to obtain that game changer winger?
You don't need a good Player in a position! You need a good orchester, that is fine tuner to each other, by a coach that understands, develops and puzzles together! 😉
I am from Austria! Soccer is in Europe Nr. 1. There are about 3 teams, that have money without end! Resouces without End, the best players in the world! ... but every year most of them fail, because money can't buy ❤. A Top trainer, top players with talent, the willingnness to give everything, the preparedness to lernen and to grow and a ❤ is what you need - then everything is possible!
Did you not watch us struggle to get the puck out of our zone all season last year? We scored plenty of goals we hung Montambeault out to dry on so many nights because we could not get the puck out of the zone.
Michkov, or Leonard... both of which Arizona also decided werent as good as Reinbacher or even Simashev, clearly. I think that showcases what NHL professionals believe in the players outside the top 4 pick. Wouldnt it have been valuable for Hughes to take either forward I mentioned if other team wanted them? They didnt trade down, where they probably could have. Maybe the Habs are wrong,.. which happens every year for teams at the draft (Maybe Fantilli is better than Carlson...). but its not the end of the world. Imagine they took Michkov, he never comes over and Reinbacher is a top 2.... once again... you never know.. so temper any concern and just be happy you get a good pick, and rare piece.
No, you are not exaggerating... Thank you for your kind words... I did need that... I was thinking of throwing myself from the window... but after some reflection time... I realized I live in a basement... when things go bad : --(
Montreal unfortunately went after need over best player available once again. My gut feeling told me that Montreal was going to pick Reinbacher, after all the story from Michkov and the transactions that Kent Hughes made (Sean Monahan re-sign, trade for Alex Newhook)
Give the kid a break. If these so called experts in the fan base, you would be in the Montreal Canadians management. I want to see this guy shine and make all doubters eat humble pie.
I did give the kid a break. Initially I was very shocked, yes. Then I tried looking at the positives and am realizing he’s likely going to be a great fit and help the team a tonne on the right side for years to come.
Right handed defensemen are very hard to come by & you barely know what you're talking about when it comes to defencemen they are money in the bank we needed a defensive D or we would never win a Stanley Cup because you need at least one & here it is 🤔GO HABS GO 💕
Euro D stats in their draft year Josi: 35 games/ 8 points/ 0.23 ppg Dahlin: 41 games / 20 points/ 0.48 ppg Seider: 29 games / 6 points / 0.2 ppg Reinbacher: 46 games / 22 points / 0.47 ppg Montreal will be more then fine
When you draft the best defenseman in the draft, did you make a bad pick? The difference between hockey "knowers" and those who "get it" is there. Those who "understand" that defense is the first key to neutralizing the opponent's offense and getting back on the attack are fine with the Habs' pick. In two years the Habs will have the best defensive squad in the NHL... and, does that bring us closer to a glass of champagne? Yes Mam! Yes Sir! 🍾🥂
Good D is critical. A big, strong, LD is a pretty solid pick. You see they are not going for flash (or flash in the pan) but looking to build a solid, championship team. Hockey is a team sport, and more often than not championships are won by gut and heart performances not superstars.
You can’t be that surprised. There were a lot of rumours that the Habs were interested in Reinbacher. I was pretty sure it would be Reinbacher or Leonard if Will Smith wasn’t available.
when you build a new team you build up the middle. goalie, defense and centre. i have also been told that you don't draft by need but by the best player available. at that point you work around him. i don't know either, this is definately a wait and see.
It all starts in the back end. Strong netminder with a solid D corpse that can skate, shoot, play solid in its end is crucial to the winning formula. Reinbacher has all the tools to succeed. He should have a nice career in the NHL. Mitchkov would be available in 3 years time and will he really score 60 goals one day ? We got Suzuki, CC, Newhook, Slavkovsky with a bright future. Blend them with some solid veterans and we will have a nice brand of hockey to show. PAtience is crucial with a young team... Let the kids play!
@@DrewDekes thanks for your comments. We have not seen so much solid young talent on this team for years now. It is really looking good! I even forgot Dach ! He never got a real chance in Chicago but he comes here with fabulous skills and potential letter A on his jersey if he really wants it ! Too bad Price never had such talent in front of him during his glory years! I hope for a miracle he can play again one day … Keep up the great work!
So i just watched an interview featuring his captain in the swiss league and the guy says he's like a Roman Jossi and will be a top D man in the NHL for sure. Hope he's right.
Wish they took a chance on Michkov but Reinbacher should Be a very good D . Many scouts say he’s a better defenceman than Guhle was at this age. So most likely he’s a top pairing D
People, people, geeeez. Calm down. - For those who wanted for Habs to trade down at rank 7 with Philly to get more as a return for taking David... they most likely knew Arizona were going to pick a D and they would not have gotten him, or at least it would have been too risky to not get their selection. - For those who are complaining about selecting a D in a very deep offensive-oriented draft, i get it. I would have loved that they go with Mitchkov or Leonard as well. But David is not a bad choice either. He has a top-notch first pass that has been the plague of the Habs for i dont know how many years. He gonna kill PKs / shut down other lines, make the goalie more comfortable and facilitate the transition. It is true that we have 5 out of the 6 on the top 2 lines for the 4-5+ years right now: caufield-suzuki-newhook-dach-slav we now have a complete D roaster as well for years to come: guhle-mailloux-harris-hudson-xhekaj-(now)reinbacher and even more. that D will give nightmares to the other teams in 2-3 years down the line.
this management lost all the trust....i dunno how to cope with this...we will always be a mid team trying to get by with safe choices...will never be great....its dissapointing....
Big shut down D is what you need to win cups. And we have that in Reinbacher, Guhle and Xhekaj. We also have 3 puck movers in Mailloux, Hutson and Barron. They set up the D for years to come. They want to build a Stanley Cup winning team, not a presidents trophy winning team. I think this is the right pick. They have enough talented forwards now. With Newhook, Dach could play C full time. A 1,2 of Suzuki and Dach is great. And we have size up front in Dach, Slaf, and Anderson. The only thing missing is a true n.1 goalie. And I think the Habs will address that on Day 2
It s a rebuild!! You re now set on D and have pieces you can deal to get forwards. No clue why people are upset. Armia. Gallagher. Drouin. Edmondson. Monahan. Harris. Anderson are all chips to be dealt. This pick tells me they wont compete next year but they will rsbuild and be champs. All you short term fix guys are lost😊
this whyyou are not a GM...as you said,they were a lot a good point player available in this draft,but we all know that a defenseman with a general attitute is pretty epic and tough to find...now we got one.....don't forget that we don't have price anymore in the goal,we need a general at the blue line like markov was couple years ago...i think the did a great choice with david,he is already used to play with big grown men in his league....more like a futur roman josi,maybe some karlson too ;)
Drafts Slafbust over Cooley, Mesar over Lambert✅ Loses out on Dubois ✅ Trades picks 31 and 37 for a middle six undersized centre ✅ Drafts a D man in a forward heavy draft, passing on Matvei, Leonard and Benson ✅
Also don't forget...trades Lehkonen, Toffoli, and Kulak for what collectively amounts to nothing. Bergevin is beginning to look like a genius next to this clown.
I like your reverse engineering video! To try to understand, why people do stuff and to grasp the vision behind! Enjoyed your analysis, and the evolving thoughts. As Austrian, coming from the Nr. 1 hockey place in little Austria - KAC! I am thrilled, that a player can come to such an professionall league! I am looking forward to see his talent and position and how this will turn out overtime in the future!!
we needed a RD and now we have him, what is there to be upset about.......he will not be here next year as he has 1 year of education needed but was the top rated dman and a RD at that so a big hole filled so a win win...heck I never thought of him till he was picked but I understand no Michkov as a few teams said his interviews were a disaster....and some who do not think his game will convert to NHL...
I specifically remember just a few days ago, Habs management saying, "We are going with the best available player". They DEFINITELY didnt do that. We drafted for position, AGAIN!!! Habs NEED scoring. We NEED goal scoring, like Michkov, or Leonard (Leonard's style of play is awesome, he's fun and exciting to watch, dude hits when HE has the puck! lol).I was talking to my buddy when we were watching the draft, he is a Habs fan too, he said imagine they draft a defenseman!!! lol, i was like NO CHANCE!!! I soooo wanted Ryan Leonard, and when i seen that he was still available, i was stoked. In my mind i was thinking it's DEFINITELY between Leonard, or Michkov, i thought 110% FOR SURE, they were taking one of those guys, and I WISH they would have. We are going to regret this for a decade and a half. I bet we would have gone with Will Smith if he was still available, FUCK!!! (sorry!).(The commentator guy was talking about Ryan Leonard, he said this kid has muscles in his face!!) lol. Michkov is going to be in his prime, and on an entry level contract, so ur probably getting at least a 40 goal guy, maybe more on an entry level contract, so he's making max $950,000 i think it is!! I am sooo saddened by this pick, i woke up this morning, all was good, until i sat up, and remembered what i witnessed last night, then i felt like i got kicked in the nuts all over again... I know he's a defensive d man, but come on, he scored THREE goals in 46 games last year, THREE!!! And that isn't in the NHL, i think it was Swedish Elite league. Im sure Reinbacher is a fine defenseman, dont get me wrong, but he shouldnt have went 5th. If Toronto made that pick at 5, i would be laughing my ass off still, it would have made my day!! lol. But it wasn't toronto, it was us. 🤢 Ive been so confident in Hughes and Gorton so far up to this point, they've been doing such an incredible job, and then this happens. I could have gotten over it, if they didnt take Leonard, or Michkov, but at least go with a forward! Last night if they would have gotten fired on the spot (Hughes and Gorton), i would have applauded!!! I dont want them to get fired now, but i just can't wrap my head around it, i cant wait to see how they explain this pick, without saying we drafted him because he was a right shot defenseman, two days after saying we are going to draft the best available player. They could have at least traded down a little and gotten a decent player, and still taken Reinbacher.
Hockey starts with defense. that in itself is a extra value. The people non recongagnizing that are just casals. Hockey people who knows the game understands the pick. Thats it.
I'm done,..... you get 50 players like Reinbacher every year. You get maybe 1 chance every 10 years to pick a guy like Michkov if you're lucky...... Just terrible choice by management. Picking a need over BPA is just terrible and gives kk 2.0 vibes real bad. just awful night
I agree man. Awful choice. With so much elite forward talent available we pick a guy who averaged 2 goals a season in the Swiss league. Awful choice. On top we traded away 31 and 37 picks for a tiny guy who scored 14 goals tops. Unbelievable. With picks 5 3- and 37, we threw it all away
Awful choice considering they already traded picks 31 and 37 for Newhook. Man, imagine Heidt and Cristall were both there at 31 lol. Could’ve easily walked away with some serious talent
Confused more than disappointed…losing 31 and 38 picks created stress for this pick given there is no second chance after the 5th pick and they did this to get a 5’10” forward I guess to take care of offence and then picked a defence man over what we were told was a generational player in Michkov…so yes confused. Like many on this channel, I still have my reservations about Slaf as a first pick and last year did little to make me feel better…trust has to be earned. And I am also confused if I trust this management
Honestly... what IF?? what IF we just drafted a new franchise d-man?? I'm not saying that's what happened... at ALL!! But seriously... What if? A new General maybe?
MTL turned down, apparently, from NSH: Askarov + 15 + 24, to get Rienbacher...Askarov seems like he will be a solid #1G for years to come, at 15 they could have taken (17. DET - Axel Sandin Pellikka, who is also a RHD) and 24 had solid Fwds available...sooo, yeah, this kid better be amazing or that was a baaaaad move!
They are working to revamp and bring the habs bavk to the top. They are the pros we are the spectators. They do not have to defend their job. Habs history of great teams and winning teams build from net and d 1st. When the net is stocked this is going to take shape . Glad they let michkov go by, welcome to mtl big dave. Ghg!! Always.
Caufield, slav, harvey pinard, dach, susuki, newhook, possibly monahan for a few mor years. Id say they look pretty good up front. Ill admit i was a little taken back with the pick but a right shot d man is hard to come by and hes a good one. A damn good one. Habs bet on slav last year and this pick tells me they still have faith in that pick to turn out they filled a need. After thinking about it. I like it. Look what edmonton did with 4 very talented drafted forwards.....absolutly nothing.
* Copy paste of my comment from Draft video: * Am I missing something here? I live out west and don't get to watch a lot of games, and am not laser focused on the nitty gritty of the team, but why is defense bad? Like what was our Goals Against for the year because we got lit up more than time square. I don't know if Reinbacher is any good, but I can't think of any names or evidence that says our D isn't in dire need of some work. Also living out west I can tell you first hand the joke of the Oilers. I mean putting up amazing stats like Mcdavid does is great...... doesn't mean S@## when your end of the ice is a sieve. I don't know, I won't pretend to know anything about hockey, so maybe someone can enlighten me, but I don't think this is as apocalyptic as I am hearing. * Also he is a defenseman I know you want him getting SOME points, but that's not his job. Given my point stated I want his DEFENSE to be good not his offense.
His +/- was 2nd best on his team last season. Most guys were a - rating. The only guy better is 36 yrs old with lots of experience. Points, especially goals, don't define a defensive d-man. If the defence gives up less goals per game, that gives a better chance at winning.
Trop d'incertitudes avec Mitchkov (1 saison d'évaluation ne fait pas une carrière, situation géopolitique, etc.). Au moins avec le défenseur, tu sais à quoi t'attendre et puis c'était un besoin criant pour un défenseur droitier (en plus c'est le meilleur défenseur du draft).
I have nothing against Reinbacher. He'll probably be a good Dman with the habs. I just feel sorry for the kid, he didn't decide to be chosen at 5. The habs fanbase is not very forgiving and even if he is a decent Dman, I feel that for the next decade the fanbase will consider him like the guy that was picked over Michkov instead of being his own thing. Let's hope he breaks free of this image or else the pressure on his shoulders will be unbearable.
The pick for Reinbacher isn't a popular move, picking D normally isn't. But he is the best developed D prospect of the draft. Shoots right, is mobile and look at the D core for Las Vegas. Big mobile and hard to play against. This is what Reinbacher is going to be like. Plus he is a right shooting defenseman which Montreal needs. A top pairing defenseman that should be with Lane Hutson. Guhle will either be a in the top 4 as well but again he shoots left. Hutson - Reinbacher Guhle - Barron These 4 will win championships together.
