Hades - Lament of Orpheus 

BAHAHAHH

So, that's actually a really fun question to ask, are we joining Achilles for a drink or Orpheus for one?

@@OGGuaves Both, together. Bust open the ambrosia.

Count one on me too , dear Orpheus , and Great Achilles .. 🍻

I think Orpheus would be 'older' than Achilles actually. Achilles father and Orpheus were together on the Argonautica(aka a comic book crossover event for greek myths) and Achilles died very young.

every time he sings i like to stand in front of him and listen

XD Yeah, that seems like how everyone would be like 😆

You froze for a whole five minutes? You didn't move at all? Okay, buddy, whatever you say

@@zohaibmehmood3027 such a weird thing to be skeptical about. I didn't even say "literally"

@@Salocinist yea fr mans probably having a shitty day

Well hey, at least in the Underworld, the only people around him are immortals and shades so no harm no foul, right? Right? (We're just gonna ignore how massively upset Achilles would be listening to this okay? We'll deal with him later)

as a woman im happy i dont have any buns in this oven. it would be Most Unfortunate

@@alesabelen1558 what did I read

@@leonardo9259 "buns in the oven" is a way to say someone is pregnant so she's saying she is glad she isn't pregnant.

@@C-7827 thanks captain obvious

??? he sound beautiful

@@pupykig4914 Yes, so I completely understand why Hades would lock him up for REFUSING to sing.

imprison him, lock him in a cage, destroy the keys

@@kevo8664 Then watch your son bail him out

@@diromiz He will join him befor he commits such a crime

Me when group project

He also wrote all the music for the whole game and voices both Zagreus (MC) and Skelly.

@@tonyq7364 Yeah, yeah. I know. He’s truely quite a sight to behold; however, it’s funny to me.

@@tonyq7364 That man is a powerhouse, like holy shit I feel so untalented

High notes hit by: Darren Korb

That is the best description of Darren Korb's voice I've ever heard.

In Greek mythology Orpheus' voice is so beautiful he causes gods to weep. And, somehow, Korb lived up to that. Darren Korb is amazingly talented. He voices the main character, composed the game's score, brought a legendary musician to life, and held an early Hades speedrun record.

@@Pan_Z Also voiced Skelly, the most dedicated employee of the Underworld!

@@thugles104 Charon would like to know your location

@@mayorgeneralramirez1997 To be fair Skelly is in Charon's employ

Welcome to Supergiant, where "early access" has the possibility of being even better than some released games

@@META_mahn It is definitely better than a lot of AAA released games.

I also just realized they do the same thing if you alt-tab

@@aidenauty9716 thats so cool!

@@aidenauty9716 too bad they don't do it when I go to the home screen on my switch

in some versions of the myths, Orpheus actually accompanied heroes on their journeys across the sea to counteract the siren songs, allowing them to pass without harm.

@@kir9107 Source please. Would really like to read up on some of these myths now that I've played the game.

He was so good that when his wife was killed he sang a song so sad the gods cried and allowed him the chance to be reunited with his love but he fucked up.

@@alexburn4014 The moral of the story is to not look back when you're told not to look back.

@@kir9107 Orpheus having a singing battle with the Sirens? That is a show I’d love to see! Or game! Heck, dlc or sequel please! (Even though I haven’t finished the Hades just yet).

rogue lite*

I hate that there is this division. It is understandable, but it just sounds weird.

Totally read that in Ruck's voice 🤙🏽

This is...advanced roguelite dungeon crawler

GET OUTTA MY HEAD. D:

Don't look back

What is his story about? Does it say what happened EXACTLY? Its very "Hinting", IDK. Is it the same as in the Greek Lore?

@@martir851 Best poet in the world is like "hey can I have my wife back for a lil bit? Eternity is long and I like love her or some shit" Literally everybody in the underworld is like : "damn dawg that's a fantastic argument sure!" Small caviat. She can come back out of death back into the real of the living if you do one thing. Just like walk all the way back out. She's gonna follow you the whole time. Just walk out and you'll have her back" If you trust, she gon be there. If you falter and check she gone forever. He walks 99% of the way out And then is like... But like... Is she there? Yep. But also game over. You looked. Goodbye forever.

Is it really *self* doubt? More like distrust of Hades/The Underworld.

M S M The version in the game is pretty much the same as the mythological version, though there are a couple of changes. In the myth, Eurydice is Orpheus’s muse and he’s the one that made music, but the in-game version says that they were both musicians but Orpheus was simply more well known than Eurydice, and she’s a bit annoyed because it felt like the spotlight was being taken from her. In the myth, Hades and Persephone are the ones that offer Orpheus the chance to go to the underworld, but in the game, it seems only Hades offered it (though obviously since Persephone isn’t in the game right now, it’s impossible to say what involvement she had), and he also says that he offered it to Orpheus knowing there was no way Eurydice would be allowed to leave.

My favorite thing about it, really. Every bit seems crafted with genuine love and care and respect for the source material in all sorts of little puns and jokes and contractor orders and background bits and bobs. The emotions the shades make, the impeccable design of everything (motifs everywhere like hades' sigil, and so much of the art has these incredible levels of detail and references). I genuinely think having Darren voice Zagreus was one of the best decisions, I'm sure it afforded him and Supergiant a LOT of leeway with recording and rerecording lines since The Zagman has to have a response to almost everything.

And that's the case with every single one of Supergiant Games's Games, which is utterly fantastic ♥

Except the four witches room. FUCK that room.

Zagreus’ delivery just seems off to me at times but I’ve grown accustomed to it. The VA has such a unique voice that I’ve come to love it.

@@blakethesnake6686 Trick is to get into a corner.

@Vicente Hamel a small unknown indie band

@Vicente Hamel haven heard of those

ah, a fellow countertenor

you legit get it

i can sing baritone if i have to but my falsetto is my strong suit and i NEVER let anyone hear it besides when i sing this

Backstab then

I shed a tear

Fr, i only know little about his myth, yet hearing this really got me in the feels.

Orpheus has Shadow Presence confirmed

Honestly laughed at the irony, but it was one of those counter feeling reaction of shock you know XD

Extra bit of fun on that fact: The song he played when she first died was so upsetting that it made the gods weep

Funnest fact of all ORPHEUS IS THE BIRTH OF METAL

Another version of the myth was that wild animals that were affected by his music tore him apart.

@@erikaconley1175Theres a third version where dionyses's crazy Maenads tore him apart because he refused to sing anything else and ignored the lot

The way I heard it is that either Dionysus's maenads became angry for him to refusing to pay tribute to Dionysus even though he had done so earlier in life so they ripped him apart, or they did it because they loved him and he couldn't or wouldn't love anyone besides Eurydice, or that it was because they were sick of him only singing sad songs. But that either way they tried first with sticks and stone but they refused to hurt him and actually stopped themselves from touching him (like how when he first tired to kill himself after failing to bring back Euridyce the wind caught him and carried him down when he tried to throw himself off a cliff, nothing would let him die), so they had to rip him apart with their own hands. And then the trees were weeping and in such agony that their leaves fell and they looked like women tearing at their clothes and hair in grief. And then the Maneads or nymphs who killed him were turned into trees by Dionysus either in order to protect his followers from the death sentence that lingered over them or out of anger at them for killing Orpheus since he still considered him to be his musician.

Can’t believe this is the same guy that voices Zag

@@maiakromer1747 And skelly lol

@@maiakromer1747 WHAT??

I can agree with this. As much as Good Riddance got me to stop dead each solo performance, this song made me stop dead for two cycles of the song. I saw someone once say that Orpheus' performance of GR made them understand how he was the voice to drown out the Sirens and make gods weep, but nah. this song. there is so much that is impressive about this song that it sucks how I don't hear anyone talk about it.

I was on that train before I knew this song existed. I had to play the game a while before I heard this song! I beat Hades in the pre release so there was no story reason to keep returning to the surface. So I kinda lost interest for a couple of years thinking I kinda played everything the game had to offer. I recently decided to do a run, won, saw Zagreus mother for the first time, died, and came back to this song for the first time. I couldn't move for 10 minutes while I kept listening over and over. My point is, I would bet many people who have played the game have never heard this song.

for me personally, good riddance is my least favorite (not that that says much when i love all of them) simply because of how much more i love this + hymn to zagreus. the fact that hymn to zagreus establishes a motif for zag also used in house of hades + the way that this compares to the actual myth (especially w/ the "don't look back") puts those above good riddance for me

I think that's what makes Zagreus special. Despite his godly heritage, he's still humble and has a lot of humanity in him, unlike a majority of his family. Personally, I think Achilles had a lot to do with it, considering he played a big part in Zag's upbringing.

Maybe it was because of folks having the same feeling back then that they had him rise to godhood. I remember seeing somewhere that Orpheus had his own followers after he died.

Same. This was the first time I heard him sing in game, and as soon as I heard this in game I knew I had to hear more of his songs.

The lungs on this lad,,,,

I am semi-trained and I can't even manage that note

It's even more unsettling when you realize that line is probably a reference to how he died: Dionysian worshippers murdered him and threw his body into the river, along with his lyre.

This game is polished like glass.

@@bazzfromthebackground3696 and it ages like fine wine, but with a 20 year head start, because it has always been a Mastahpiece

So he sounds like orpheus

There was a new clip documentary yesterday that shows thieves breaking in and stealing instruments at supergiant games

i am currently writing a paper on Orpheus and i wish the content was that interesting as the stuff from hades is

I personally love greek myth and history But i think the dryness of academics kills many an interesting topic

@@dj_koen1265 it kinda always does lol, i don't get why it has to be like that

Thank you for this because for some reason RU-vid decided to automation this in Korean

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(Orpheus, tapping his mic) "Alright, you morose fucks, get ready for some of that unreleased shit. This next one's called 'i miss my wife'." (Hades)"Oh, no." (Achilles) "Oh, *no.* "

I mean it is kinda just actually Canon.

@Jacob Newell Well, he kept saying he was going to sing, but it felt like he never would. It was a little frustrating.

@@dandyfeller It was a nice build up to when he actually did. I think it was pulled off rather nicely and felt in character for him.

Yeah he was getting on my nerves a little. But after my maybe 6th successful run today I finally came down to see him strumming those notes and I HAD to pause everything and just absorb.

@@aster5035 I loved the scene when it came up. Orpheus singing his regrets he's also making a plea to Hades to reunite them. The imagery of Orpheus singing this in the great hall with Hades quietly doing paperwork beside him was great. Hades is likely moved but knows he can't break the rules of the Underworld.

How could he even come across as "annoying." If you DO know who he is, you immediately recognize a sad, depressed husk of a man. If you DON'T know who Orpheus is, he is still a sad musician who wont play because his heart obviously aches.

Thanks for this, I know nothing about music and I keep hearing how much of a genius Darren korb is for technical reasons. Auston Wintroy said he finds it brrilliant that you can take any snippet of a song and it still retains it's mood.

I didn't understand a word of this, but yeah, I totally agree.

what a fucking nerd

Im gonna pretend i understand what youre saying and act smart by denying that no, you're wrong. The first stanzas was actually archaic altimeter in a centimeter kilometer

Erm, could you or someone uh...translate? Preferably in caveman speech.

The highest being a D, it takes a lot of work to get there

Kevin Tang Funny thing is I have an incredibly high singing voice so I can reach it, I’m just really ashamed to do so because I only started singing classes a month ago and my voice simply isn’t clean enough to make it sound like anything nice yet. I feel like I’m doing the song a disservice anytime I try.

@@BonDieu617 Think like that and you'll never be able to sing it. You've gotta practice those notes, to get them clean. Keep going! (and don't look back).

@@gombles I'll give it a proper try once I'm a more practiced singer, first I want to get the basics down. Thank you for the encouragement, one day I'll get there!

I read this in skelly’s voice.

yemin ederim aynısı yaşandı adamsın

It's hard to think about when you know the subject matter I guess, but afaik I didn't think about the subject matter at all when I first heard the song, the pacing and the tone just made it for me :) It's also one of the reasons why I dislike a lot of universally recognized "good" songs I think, I mostly disregard the lyrics the first few times I listen to any given track, because to me that's very secondary :^^ That's no fair way of judging a song though and I know it, lyrics do matter and subject matter/subtext matters a lot when it comes to lyrics :) Also all this being said, I do have songs I like where the lyrics are a big part of it, it's just a rare thing for me is all.

the moment he sang "don't look back", I immediatly knew this was the best song.

@@MrKlausbaudelaire indeed bro

birebir aynı sıralamasıyla yaşandı her şey. şimdilerde hikayeyi bilerek dinlediğim her seferinde şarkı bir kat daha ağır geliyor.

Zagreus is Dionysus and Orpheus at the same time 🤔

He composed the whole game. And @buff isabelle just Orpheus' singing voice. His voice actor is a different guy.

And Skellys !

Orpheus didn't die for this

@@remratsuken It's kind of tragic because all he needs to do is going out of the underworld without looking back. It's like don't press the button yet you still press it. And he's so close to above too.

@@cestalia To be fair, we don't know how long the journey was. Zagreus notes that it was kind of an unfair condition.

@@korsekil plus Orpheus didn't realize that both him and Eurydice need to be outside the underworld, so when he stepped out of there Eurydice was still inside and you can guess what happens next

@@slurpfung906 so it was kind of euridice’s fault too in a way. She should have exited faster lol

goddd imagine darren korb as Orpheus thoo......

WAAAAIT FOR ME I'M COMIIIIIIIN

“Keep on walking *and don’t look back* till you get to the bottom land”

@@giselle3964 wAAAAAAAAIT FOR ME, I’m comiiiiiing

This comment gave me whiplash at 4:36 am jdjgjtjvjgjv

@@zakaria653 Sorry for the silly question, but where in the hell IS Orpheus??? Must have missed him.

He started singing to me after one gift, I think it has to do with how many times you hit his and Eurydice's event conversations.

@@zakaria653/videos I think Tyler Mills is right, because I only gave him two nectar, but progressed enough in the storyline with him and Eurydice and he also started singing again.

i got him to start singing after like 15 runs, i just freed him early on, and talked to him and Euridice a lot

Yeah I can’t wait until they are reunited. I fought the last boss once but I lost. Hopefully after I clear they get back together

It hit me when I had to go into Hades’ room for the first time to find the picture of Persephone after she says she doesn’t actually want to return Perfect timing really

For me it was also right after the run before Zagreus gets access to Hades’ room. Perfect timing, since it felt like the beginning of a turning point in the story

Because he's just FABULOUS!

Hypnos is blissfully ignorant to everything

Hypnos is too pure, leave him alone

@@petitbloom742 Sleepy boi

I like Hymn of Zagreus a lot more now that I know that it depicts the character Zagreus as the Orphic mystery cults understood him, but don't look back is just such a demonstration of vocal range.

Me too!

I've become a fan of Hadestown ever since I came upon your comment, and I just want to say thank you! I've fallen in love with everything about it, and I wouldn't have found out this amazing musical without you, so thanks again!

Mary L. Dam

WAY DOWN HADESTOWN!! WAY DOWN UNDER THE GROUND!!

Dude! Same!

I won't say that much. The core part for me was gameplay, which didn't stand out much. There are other indie games that surpasses hades in game play like dead cells and enter the gungeon. Tho everything else is amazing in hades. The character design, VA, dialogues etc

Lol Korbpheus

same ;’( the first time i heard that bit in game i just froze

@@notapprovedtrash1628 yea it's so sad, went all the way to hell just to bring your wife back to life, moved the goddamn stone-hearted Hades, looked back for irrational affection, jesus christ

@@rosemaryrao6714 yep, poor guy went so far just to fall prey to his own self doubt