For 9 years, Dream Theater was my absolute favourite band and I thought they always would be. I never believed I would discover anything greater. Haken is my favourite because they beat my favourite.
It's very difficult for people, as they get older, to change their ways. As such, bands get "stuck" in a rut. You can see this in people's taste in music who are older (like me) who, after their early formative years, don't seem to change much (not like me). There are always exceptions to the rule but get past 30-40 years old and people will still be listening to the same stuff they were 20 years ago. I believe it is the same for making music. I'm constantly on the lookout for more interesting music (with a heavy bent). Rush used to be my fave band. Dream Theater took over. Now it's Opeth. Haken sounds really good and may end up being my favourite band but then, strangely, I like the sound of Sunn O))). Go figure. :-)
Must say I'm inclined to agree on all points. Opeth's been my fav band for years some years now, with Watershed as their best album so far. Must admit that Haken have some potential though. som parts are really cool. Only just "found them" and i'm a little delighted to find a new band that have this potential :)
you can actually see in the vidéo Tool's Lateralus at 9:12 (recognizable by the unique artwork of the album's box with the kind of glasses on it) Not sure if it was on purpouse but found it was a pretty cool easter egg!!
07:17 - 08:00 - prog metal heaven :) Have been a huge prog fan for 15 years now and haven't listened to Haken yet. I'm ashamed of myself. But this changed today :D
This album has to be my favorite progressive rock/metal album ever, tied even with DT's Scenes From a Memory in my book. So musically diverse. Beautiful, yet epic. Makes great use of a lot of music theory that gets neglected in modern music, from the use of harmonic minors, to the use of cadences that only resolve rhythmically. The Mountain is a corner-stone in progressive music, and I deem it a staple album to any prog fans out there.
My main playlists before Haken consisted of Yes, Flower Kings, ELP, King Crimson, Dream Theater, Symphony X, Arena, Kamelot, Mastodon, Pain of Salvation, Opeth, Rush, The Mars Volta, Spock's Beard, Ayreon et al... no particular order there! I hear influences here and there, but overall this band is a total original. While eclectic, it avoids being derivative. To me this is the extension of musical ideas I first heard in the 70's. While on the guitar side I can hear the DT influence, overall the composition has more in common with the Yes Years of Close to the Edge and Relayer, in addition to the Crimson years with Wetton and Bruford. Melodically complex with the quirkiness originally introduced by King Crimson and later demonstrated by Spock's Beard and The Mars Volta. These gents are influenced by the best of Prog and Prog-Metal while presenting an extremely original sound. Overall, very exciting to hear some fresh prog ideas!
I think that is the mark of a true progressive band overall, their ability to create something completely original, something new and unique. All those bands have achieved this in their own way and have progressed music style, not forwards but in any direction they feel free.
All my kingdom's gone It's burned to the ground Reason leaves me As future sits upon a solitary throne A treasure is sinking Seems now long gone The desert takes away Our fears and dreams but they Always will return [Chorus] Be the moon and sun Be the wind and cross the storm See the stars begin to swarm Read the writings in the stone Be the moon and be the sun Be the wind and cross the storm See the stars begin to swarm Read the writings in the stone Seeking patterns Envisaging pictures of a dying dream Fallen prison The façade of wisdom in old scars [Chorus] Be the moon and sun Be the wind and cross the storm See the stars begin to swarm Read the writings in the stone Be the moon and be the sun Be the wind and cross the storm See the stars begin to swarm Read the writings in the stone [Solo] Breathe in the air "Breathe deeper" Don't lose the stars "Keep sinking" The old spirit ware's "Perceiving" Speaking within "Conceiving" Show me the way "Old spirits" Uncertainty "Deceiving" Feelings arise "Believing" Take what is mine "Retrieving" Breathe in the air "Breathe deeper" Don't lose the stars "Keep sinking" The old spirit ware's "Perceiving" Speaking within "Conceiving" Show me the way "Old spirits" Uncertainty "Deceiving" Feelings arise "Believing" Take what is mine "Retrieving" As I've been forsaken My veins feel unshaken In the skies a secret lies Well disguised before my eyes "The Universe is all around us kept in motion Alleviate our pain and fear test our devotion" Breathe in the pain "Keep breathing" You won't break these chains "Keep digging" For what you've foreseen "Believing" Was only a dream "Deceiving" Give me what's yours "Retrieving" You've dug your own tomb "Keep digging" Your kingdom is gone "Keep grieving" It's burned to the ground "defeated" All my fears have drowned All my fears have drowned Seems now long gone The ocean took away My fears and dreams but they Never returned [Chorus] Be the moon and sun Be the wind and cross the storm See the stars begin to swarm Read the writings in the stone Be the moon and be the sun Be the wind and cross the storm See the stars begin to swarm Read the writings in the stone The universe is all around us Read the writings in the stone
I just found this the other night. My mind has officially been blown. I've listened to this song like 20 times, and it's even more mesmerizing each time. Then I listened to Atlus Stone. These guys are the pure essence of what progressive is. Pure complexity. Easily in my top 5 favorite bands, now.
There's a big problem in the Post-1992 Prog Scene: Thinking that everything in the newest prog is derivated from DT music... as if Gentle Giant, Premiata Forneria Marconi, KC, Focus, VDGG and Mahavishnu Orchestra never existed.
The "Problem" is that Dream Theater was the First Prog Band MOST people born after 1983 EVER heard Images & Words was their First Prog Metal Album They never heard of Fates Warning, Queensryche, Sieges Even, Rush, So Dream Theater is their Non Plus Ultra Prog Metal Band
musicisthebestF Just because people have not heard anything else but DT does not make them the main influence for someone else. Imho Haken is more prog then metal (this song is somewhat of the most metal they go on The Mountain. DT is more metal and technical show off then prog and emotion. Even King Crimson and Gentle Giant have had their hard rock moments.
Nisse Hult I think the point was, simply, that Dream Theatre is viewed as the only point of reference for prog-metal fans born post-1983. For me, the first nearly progressive band I heard was Tool. I compared virtually everything I heard to them for years. Fortunately for me, I expanded my horizons and listened to something other than Tool. I started to listen to the bands members of Tool cited as influences, listen to similar bands as they, etc. That sort of intelligent musical appreciation is something I recommend to the dudes saying Haken is a foreigners' impression of DT.
Man, this song is incredible. Reading the lyrics I suppose the song talks about seeing though things or see things in a different way... the metaphor of Pareidolia (seeing faces in objects when they arent really there) fits perfect! Diego writes and sings niceley! This band its outstanding, every album have different things to enjoy and love... I hope Restoration and Affinity are good too, I suppose it! Love you, Haken!
I stopped listening to music for a long time. The last band I remembered touching me was Dream Theater... Nothing after that. I didn't know it at the time, but I just couldn't find anything I could identify with. I didn't have those words yet. I was almost completely music free for at least 10 years. I would "hear" music, but would rarely play it for myself, but honestly I couldn't really listen... Funnily enough, some musicals were powerful enough to "get to me" but that was it. Then Haken came into my life. I listen to them daily, and have done so for months. I get it now. I remember what music meant to me. How I did use it. What it gave me. Music is prayer. The music you love, the text that follows you The rhymes or lines that really GET YOU GOOD The wisdom you have gained from it, the hardships it helped you overcome All those are held in the memory of their songs... To be met again, like an old friend from the past... I think... yes, trying to describe how I feel about music, I practically spelled out "Crytallised"...
Haken, their music is like a mandelbrot fractal. You can keep zooming in on smaller detail levels but you never stop hearing detail. You don't just listen to this song a view times. This music keeps you busy for months. Just like Dream Theater used to do.
I don't know why but I do enjoy DT and Haken so much!!!!!! Their music really make me feeling so good!!!! So stop comparing them, just enjoy their music!!!!
This remains my favourite tune from this stellar album. The songwriting is mature but still exploratory, I adore what these guys do. The future of progressive metal is bright indeed!
@@n3rdg4m3r wait, when did they open for DT? I didn't think they had done that yet? I'm a huge DT fan, but I think Haken would steal the show as the opener!
Absolutely Amazing. I listened The Mountain several times and I've to say it is a MASTERPIECE!! Never heard about Haken but now they have all my atention for sure! Nice Melodies, heavy and tight rithms, great great great sound. Is a great idea to play 8 strings guitars but noy always ... Looooove IT!
Charlu Go Well I imagine the budget for putting together some epic 11 minute music video to accompany THIS would be more than just a pretty penny, so..
6:54 Breathe in the pain (Keep breathing) You won't break these chains (Keep digging) For what you've foreseen (Believing) Was only a dream (Deceiving) Give me what's yours (Retrieving) You've dug your own tomb (Keep digging) Your kingdom is gone (Keep grieving) It's burned to the ground (defeated)
Cheers from Toronto fan .... since that , i've seen them on three other occasions , absolutely perfect . Opera House show was particularily fantastic .
Omni Codex Thank you sir, to bring another amazing and very unique prog band in my life. I suggest you to listen to 'Bad Salad' as they are very unknown and very good prog as well ;)
Как апологет жанра, я не мог проигнорировать этот релиз. Третий альбом британцев Haken, думаю не уступает лучшим работам Pain Of Salvation и Dream Theater. При прослушивании альбома рождаются самые разные ассоциации, от Gentle Giant до Rush. А чего стоит удивительное соло на бузуки( 3:44 - 4:18 ) в этой композиции...
The Mountain - best prog release of 2013, perhaps sharing that title with The Raven That Refused to Sing. We've been spoiled this year, progheads. If you don't already own this, do yourself a favor and spin it from beginning to end - it's brilliant (and this track I might even consider one of the weaker ones, minus the instrumental section).
***** The Theory of Everything is brilliant. I had never heard of Ayreon until a few months ago. I can't believe what I was missing! The Human Equation is incredible too.
Para quienes dicen que esto es DT: mi opinion, esta influenciado claramente por dream, pero tambien tiene mucho de otros estilos. El estilo que tocan (siendo prog metal) no se parece a dream. Este es un estilo más versátil, más innovador, más "movido" por asi decirlo, a veces mas complejo en termino de arreglo de compases (sobretodo este ultimo album). No estoy diciendo que es mejor banda que dream... solo digo que no son comparables ;D amo a estas dos bandas
Guys been listening to all the prog greats for to many years to mention and been a musician for all of those years so i know a track when i hear one , and that is one special piece of music .. stunning work !
The Ocean - Pelagial is amazing. TesseracT's new album is really good as well. Have you heard of Guilt Machine? They only have one album (an Ayreon side project) but it's really good. You can find the whole album on RU-vid.
Did you see the definition of Pareidolia? I think the band just sat down and went: "Shit, everyone's gonna compare us to anything remotely prog for this one..." - "Well, we don't have a title for this yet, let's fuck with them."
3:44 - 4:42 I can't help but laugh at the imagine of a bearded dude with only pink pants on dejnting this part whilst only staring at you angrily, not moving besides playing the notes, never breaking eyecontact
tomorrow the vinyl of it comes to me (hope so) ! haken,i know of u since the first demosongs of myspace,your music is amazing and u top it every new album
Been listening to this album for weeks straight. It's been a long time since an album stuck with me for so long. Prog album of the year IMO with the Flower Kings "Desolation Rose" the runner up!!
