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Hall Scott: The King Gas Truck in the USA 

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@warmstrong5612
@warmstrong5612 Год назад
"No replacement for displacement" was practically their business motto.
@basiltaylor8910
@basiltaylor8910 Год назад
Luke Hobbs Chief Engineer for Pratt&Whittney said exactly the same.
@toddamtmann3528
@toddamtmann3528 Год назад
There's some truth to that, with the exception of how much air you can force into the cylinder, on the compression stroke.
@basiltaylor8910
@basiltaylor8910 Год назад
@@toddamtmann3528 , with a decent intercooler , turbo or supercharger, four valve lean burn cylinder head, a beefed up crankshaft and connecting rod, 98 Octane Premium Petrol, quite a lot. Look at the latest lorry diesel engines from Scania ,Volvo, MAN ,and Mercedes Benz that comply with Euro 6 Emission Standards ,in order to do so, they have no alternative but use very high compression ratios.
@ThePaulv12
@ThePaulv12 Год назад
No there is - it's called boost. Essentially you can make the same power at half the displacement. Why would you have a 30 liter engine when you can have a 15 liter engine that makes the same power and torque, is 1/3rd the size and uses about 1/3rd the fuel and about 200% lighter allowing greater payload? For example, a 15 liter Cummins with 35PSI boost makes 600hp and 2000ft/lbs torque at half the cubic capacity. That means off boost the engine is only 15 liters. A 30 liter engine is always a 30 liter engine so always consumes fuel like a 30 liter engine.
@basiltaylor8910
@basiltaylor8910 Год назад
Yes I know about increasing an engines power with a gear or an exhaust driven blower ,look at Roller,s Merlin 26 litres in 60 -70 Series Form 1600to 1750 ponies, the 130-140 Series burning 115\145 grade petrol 2,030 ponies. Turbo Compounding is another means of increasing a engines power without increasing its fuel consumption and internal stress. All petrol and diesel engines including the one in your car ,use the energy of the burning fuel once, with turbo compounding that wasted energy is recovered via an exhaust driven turbine coupled to the crankshaft via gears and a fluid drive . You are using the energy in the burning fuel not one but twice or three times. It works!!!! How do you think Trans Polar airline travel was made feasible in the early 1950,s ?. Not long after World War Two engineers at Curtiss Wright of Dayton Ohio modified an R-3350 Duplex Cyclone Radial, the same engine that powered Tibbet,s Boeing B-29 Superfortress 'Enola Gay' to end World War Two. A standard model R-3350 of 2,500 ponies had a new rear section fitted with three exhaust driven turbines at '12 ,4,and 8' o clock . That same engine same fuel consumption on the test stand 3,250 ponies, for example an early model Pratt&Whittney R-4360 a much bigger heavier engine 3,000 ponies, for the turbo compounded R-3350 in 1947-48 a serious pony count. That year 1947 'Truculent Turtle' a US Navy Lockheed P2V Neptune Patrol Bomber circumnavigated the world with a few exercises in flight re-fuelling , an aviation feat all down to the Turbo Compounded R-3350 Duplex Cyclones exceptional fuel consumption. @@ThePaulv12
@nickthompson9697
@nickthompson9697 Год назад
I came for Visioracer, I stayed for the big engines. I had no idea how influential Hall& Scott were in the industry.
@apancher
@apancher Год назад
Phrasing...
@SW-qr8qe
@SW-qr8qe Год назад
@@apancher BOOM!
@brianpedersen4714
@brianpedersen4714 Год назад
Well after Hall & Scott, Daryl changed his focus and joined Oates. That failed after about twelve years when Hall stopped "going for that".
@torquetrain8963
@torquetrain8963 Год назад
@@brianpedersen4714 NICE!!!😂
@dancouger3677
@dancouger3677 Год назад
These became obsolete right before I started driving truck… if’n I was born 10 years earlier, I could have gotten my hands on one of those. Magnificent!
@seabulls69
@seabulls69 Год назад
In 1966, when I was just 15, I remember riding a mid-engine powered Crown school bus that had this really cool sound. I asked the driver what kind of engine it had underneath. He told me it was a Hall-Scott 590. We were out dropping off students in a remote area and I asked him what it would do. He floored it and that bus accelerated like a car. He backed off at 65, not wanting to be too obvious, but we both smiled. I'm not sure which impressed me more... that wonderful sound, or the raw power. Great engines. Particularly at a time when gasoline was around 30 cents a gallon.
@jimtrook3597
@jimtrook3597 Год назад
Saw one oñce in a bus. It was mounted on it's side under the bus. I had never heard of one previously. I think it was an inline six & the time was between 1964-73. Working in a GM C shop at the time.
@jeffstone7912
@jeffstone7912 Год назад
A lot of crown school buses had Detroit 6v53 diesels these were two stroke diesels and they were loud.
@parsnip7349
@parsnip7349 Год назад
Sounds like you're describing the good old days ☺️
@De19thKingJulion
@De19thKingJulion Год назад
Diesel must have been pretty cheap back then too?
@h8troodoh
@h8troodoh Год назад
@@De19thKingJulion was told it was about 2/3 the price of gas.. couldn't give it away..
@Mcbunaen
@Mcbunaen Год назад
Finally, my curiosity about the Hall-Scott has been satisfied. Danny Rios, the guy who taught me to drive a Cummins 335 5x4 tractor in 1972, used to brag about his Hall-Scott, butane engined Autocar that would blow all the other trucks, and even Greyhound busses away up the Grapevine back in the fifties. He said that the stack put out a two foot blue flame that would light up the night when it was pulling hard. Thank you!
@VisioRacer
@VisioRacer 7 месяцев назад
My pleasure!
@dennisyoung4631
@dennisyoung4631 7 месяцев назад
Thanks. Dale told me about “A-Cars” with Hall-Scott engines - and your description matches what I recall.
@dukie1616
@dukie1616 Год назад
This is the only channel on RU-vid that focuses solely on the history, specs and comparisons of so many different Internal combustion engines. Very impressive. Keep up the good👏
@VisioRacer
@VisioRacer Год назад
Thank you, I appreciate that!
@caesar1295
@caesar1295 Год назад
Just found your channel and subscribed, I absolutely loved this great job. Looking forward to many more videos.
@VisioRacer
@VisioRacer Год назад
@@caesar1295 Thank you very much!
@davidsignor7931
@davidsignor7931 Год назад
You got to give it to them that was alot of horsepower at that time. Now they are at 600 horses but I am sure the torque is much more and the weight is much less
@danhuttinger5040
@danhuttinger5040 Год назад
I am a retired truck mechanic and I have always been impressed with the early engineers and manufacturer's how smart they were to be able to figure all that stuff out they didn't have computers to tell them they had to have some Sharpe minds.
@h8troodoh
@h8troodoh Год назад
And likely why there's so much garbage being sold as high tech, everybody relying on computers to do their thinking for them.. the result is, garbage, short lived products..too bad.
@danhuttinger5040
@danhuttinger5040 Год назад
@@h8troodoh Thanks for the reply Mitch you hit the nail on the head those old trucks were sure easier to work on and I think they were much more reliable. I twisted wrenches for close to 55 years and the troubles started a little over 20 years ago and they steadily got worse with more electronics and stricter emissions standards.I am 74 years old I retired a little over a year ago and I sure don't miss the hassle of working on that new stuff.
@h8troodoh
@h8troodoh Год назад
@danhuttinger5040 the thing is,too many electronics, period. Take me back to my old 250 6 banger Chevy engine.. it was a happier time in mine and likely everyone's lives.. take care my friend, enjoy retirement..
@markbroad119
@markbroad119 Год назад
Some of us feel they were better, more simple times. I dislike computers for cars
@mccrackenphillip
@mccrackenphillip Год назад
Because there were real men & women not children that age says there adults. Pvt non ASE gas engines so far for 12 years I learned what I know from actually doing some college family helped too.
@wintonhudelson2252
@wintonhudelson2252 7 месяцев назад
An older friend and co-worker mentioned he had worked before WWII at Century Carburetion in LA. The produced the propane/butane carburetors that Hall Scott used. These were the biggest dry gas carburetors they made. They used linkage and a barrel valve for fuel control. Jack mentioned that a fellow would show up and buy a box load of their barrel valves. The individual's name was Stu Hillborn and he was using them on his fuel injection systems for race cars.
@williamstel9330
@williamstel9330 2 месяца назад
Interesting story about Stuart Hillborn and buying the barrel valves for the hot rod industry.
@olsonspeed
@olsonspeed Год назад
My fire department had a twelve cylinder Hall Scott powered aerial ladder truck. The sound produced by the engine was mechanical music, it was my favorite truck to drive.
@ATruckCampbell
@ATruckCampbell Год назад
What happened to it?
@olsonspeed
@olsonspeed Год назад
@@ATruckCampbell It was sold at auction. A 100ft Arial truck would be a very expensive hobby.
@richardalexander2305
@richardalexander2305 Год назад
What make was that aerial ?
@olsonspeed
@olsonspeed Год назад
@@richardalexander2305 I believe it was a Seagrave.
@A50S2D
@A50S2D Год назад
In 1970 I worked on a ranch in South Central Idaho that used 2 or 3 Hall-Scott V12 engines for irrigation wells. They would idle all summer long bringing up water from 300 feet below. They had dual ignition systems and a the mechanic could change spark plugs while in operation. We got some of the best tasting water from one well and another had so much sand it wasn't drinkable.
@h8troodoh
@h8troodoh Год назад
Love to watch the wrench change those plugs while it's running...🤣🤣🤣
@antarcticmoongiant2691
@antarcticmoongiant2691 7 месяцев назад
Probably had a compression release on it.
@hoost3056
@hoost3056 Год назад
I actually suggested doing a Hall Scott video and appreciate the excellent job you did. I've been in trucking for a long time and have been into internal combustion since I was a kid. I agree about H-S not developing a diesel engine, truly a missed opportunity. All they really needed to do was convert the existing gasser over to a bowl in crown piston design and flatten the combustion chamber in the head. The engine was so overbuilt that it would more than handle the cylinder pressures.
@jamesgeorge4874
@jamesgeorge4874 Год назад
Right on. The accessory drive was there already. An after cooler on that blower would have been a world class diesel powerplant.
@3RTracing
@3RTracing Год назад
no need to flatten the combustion chamber. Just build a bigger dome in the piston crown. Having the opposed valve head and hemispherical combustion chamber would have been very efficient. And given the two spark plug ports, one could have easily been used for an injector and the other a glow plug port. I have a 400 in a 46 Kenworth and have worked on a number of Hall Scott power plants
@V8Lenny
@V8Lenny Год назад
@@3RTracing hemi is not efficient, even worse with diesel. And injector must be in center of cylinder.
@HeyItsJonny
@HeyItsJonny Год назад
@@V8Lenny not as efficient, but would have worked with minimal re tool in the plant. From a production cost standpoint, hemi would work. From a engineering standpoint, flattening the parts would work best. One of you is Hall, the other is Scott lmao
@V8Lenny
@V8Lenny Год назад
@@HeyItsJonny but today when LNG engines are becoming popular, gasoline engines would be better starting point, now they are all converted from diesel, not the most efficient.
@3RTracing
@3RTracing Год назад
Finally!! Thanks!! I have worked on a number of 400's and own a 400 in a 46 Kenworth. EVERY Hall Scott motor was bench tested, dynoe'd, balanced and rebalanced. That was one of the reasons they lasted so long. The dual plug feature was a requirement for any power plant used in fire suppression. Another significant placement of the Hall Scott engines was in oil field work, where they ran off of blow off gas and natural gas. At one point, Oshkosh had a manifold set up for their Hall Scott powered US Air Force tugs that had 2 Holley 4 barrell carburetors. Nice piece. I wish I had have kept my promise to you and provided you with more information and video content. My apologies.
@matthewshambler2644
@matthewshambler2644 Год назад
That’s very true about balancing.. it completely changes an engine and certainly would help it last longer. As said in the video, it wasn’t about price- that’s the key difference I guess- you cannot have the best product at a discount price.
@rickwedman1375
@rickwedman1375 9 месяцев назад
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@kimmer6
@kimmer6 Год назад
I was 3 years old when we moved to a mountainous area near Los Angeles. A wildfire started on a hot Summer day and fire trucks arrived, strung up hoses and began fighting the fire. A very big pumper truck parked by the corner of our street had its hood open with the engine running the pump system. That engine fascinated me, and my dad said it was a Hall Scott. I can still remember the sound it made. That was 67 years ago.
@prosper.sguerrechaley6972
@prosper.sguerrechaley6972 Год назад
It was great to hear somebody else talk about a Hall Scott engine. I only heard 1 other person talk of them my grandfather. He said only GMC came close to them.
@mikeaporter5231
@mikeaporter5231 Год назад
My dad had a Hall Scott 12 in a Kenworth .i[I was his favorite truck and he rarely stopped talking about it ,Thanks for the video
@jonfranklin4583
@jonfranklin4583 Год назад
When I was a kid our local fire department had a Kenworth tanker truck with with a six cylinder Hall Scott in it, was a great sounding engine and they used it up until the late '70s. A friend of mine had a fairly large cabin cruiser built in the late 1920's that had a pair of Hall Scott engines for power, not sure but think they were the smaller versions and they were still powering that boat into the 1980s. I was around them several times when the owner was tinkering with them and they too were great running and sounding engines. Thanks for the video!
@eldrenbiddle9358
@eldrenbiddle9358 Год назад
They were probably 6 cylinder. Did they have highly polished valve covers?
@6h471
@6h471 Год назад
My dad spent a good deal of his time in WW2 Europe driving an M25 draggin wagon tank transporter. Hall Scott 440 engine, 1091 cu in. He said it had a single barrel updraft carb with a throat about the diameter of a 3 lb coffee can. 2 gallons per mile, maybe, top speed just under 30 mph.
@heartland96a
@heartland96a Год назад
A rare beast now a days , BUT I still want one ,or at the least to drive one
@charleshouck4309
@charleshouck4309 Год назад
The M25 Dragon Wagon tank transporter was made by Pacific Car, which now makes Peterbilt and Kenworth trucks. It supplemented the Diamond T 980 tank transporter. My father had a Diamond T farm truck in the 40's and early 50's.
@warrenjones744
@warrenjones744 Год назад
It's nice to see Hall-Scott getting some attention here on You Tube. Along with the Buda's they are my favorite engines
@edsmachine93
@edsmachine93 Год назад
Very good video. My Dad worked on Hall Scott's in the early 1960's on truck used in the logging industry. Had these engines. He always talk about the HP and torque of these engines and how the outperformed early diesel engines in trucks. Thanks for sharing. I just subscribed to your channel. Take care, EM.
@genewalter5022
@genewalter5022 Год назад
Hall/Scott's are a great engine. I was able to work on a few of the V-12's with my father who was a master mechanic that cut his teeth on them from the 40's in the Navy and onward. They are fuel hungry monsters.
@gregm4441
@gregm4441 22 дня назад
Any engine with that kind of displacement is fuel hungry. The sound they make though... is worth every drop.
@edwardelliott5756
@edwardelliott5756 Год назад
As a boy (I’m 71 now) my dad showed me a city bus with a Hall-Scott 6 cylinder laying on its side under the floor. A massive power plant that dwarfed anything I’d seen before. Very powerful but being a gas engine was not great on gas mileage. My dad was looking for a base vehicle to turn into a home built motor home. He said it would make the bus go pretty fast but put us in the poor house from all the fuel it used. We got something else and put a Buick V8 in it.
@fryreartechnology7611
@fryreartechnology7611 Год назад
They believed in no replacement for displacement... love it!🥰
@keithstudly6071
@keithstudly6071 Год назад
I was glad to hear you mention the cam design work Hall did for Duesenberg as it was vital in the development of high speed engines and was copied by all the racing engine builders of the time. A Duesenberg with a Hall designed cam won the French Grand Prix in 1921.
@tomgretiredelectrician1162
@tomgretiredelectrician1162 Год назад
Very interesting ... My dad was a propane distributer back in the 1940s to 1960s and he got Crane Mills, a local logging company in Corning and Paskenta, CA to get their logging trucks to run Hall Scott s . They ran about 12 to 15 of them for years back when diesel power was very lacking. I don't know what size the engines were, but they also ran with hydro-tarders which was a method of using water for braking going down hill loaded. AND they were loaded, they ran 12 foot bunkers and who knows what weights they carried bringing a lot of virgin timber out of the coast range mountains. It was all on private roads, so no load weight restrictions. I was too young to know much about it all at the time, but my older brother (now decesed) did work for them for a while running a water truck over the logging roads on the night shift. I did forget to mention these logging trucks ran on propane. Hydro-tarders, now maybe that is a new subject for a new posting. In the logging trucks they carried a 500 gallon tank for the water to use to slow down the trucks, and they had to refill the tanks about half way doen the run to the mill. Like I said, weight was no a problem for these rigs.
@V8Lenny
@V8Lenny Год назад
It is called watercooling. Hydrotarder is a hydraulic retarder, no need to fill tanks.
@tomgretiredelectrician1162
@tomgretiredelectrician1162 Год назад
@@V8Lenny The way it was explaned to me (over 50 years ago) is, there was an attachment around the drive line that the water was forced thru (vanes?) to slow down the speed of the truck. It created massive amounts of heat and much of the water evaporated which is why they needed to refill the tank halfway down the mountain. Huge tanks were mounted behind the cab for the water supply. There is a photo of one of these trucks on the Facebook pages for Crane Mills. I do not have permission to use the pic so will not try to provide it here. In the picture you can see how the truck cab is shifted to the left side of the vehicle and you can also see how the log bunkers are at least two feet wider than the wheels on the right side of the vehicle. I tried to find something about this method of waterbraking or hydrotarding but was unable to find anything on the web about it for anything that far back in time. Not too many logging companies had their own roads and thus not subject to load limits.
@V8Lenny
@V8Lenny Год назад
@@tomgretiredelectrician1162 ok, but they could have used engine coolant and radiator. I have seen water cooled brakes that they just poured the water over drums, thats why big water tanks. Race trucks and some cars use pressurized system to actually spray water inside drums or discs.
@allenscott3138
@allenscott3138 Месяц назад
I really appreciate your comment about the Hall-Scott powered trucks your Dad sold parts for. I had never heard Hydro-Tarders mentioned in any of many stories or videos, I'm also an engine fanatic. Please share more of what you have experienced !
@andyharman3022
@andyharman3022 Год назад
Visio Racer is firing on all cylinders as the on-line historian of internal combustion engines. I've read of Hall-Scott in different references over the years, but never delved into them as VR has done here. I tend not to be interested in pre-WW2 truck engines because of their valve-in-block architecture, but Hall-Scott had overhead cams and hemispherical combustion chambers, putting them far ahead in design. Their heavy-duty gasoline engines carried the load for many years before the diesel was perfected. And given the EPA's apparent mission to kill the diesel engine, maybe the heavy-duty gasoline engine will come back.
@ThreenaddiesRexMegistus
@ThreenaddiesRexMegistus Год назад
With the stated intention of the WEF and the climate-change cult to destroy private vehicle ownership and IC in particular, this might be a forlorn hope. I sincerely hope I’m wrong in this observation. But it’s happening everywhere.
@andyharman3022
@andyharman3022 Год назад
@@ThreenaddiesRexMegistus Cummins is already developing a gasoline engine based on their diesel.
@paulm749
@paulm749 Год назад
Probably won't happen. The big Hall Scott engines made lots of power, but it came at the cost of high fuel consumption, so the economics just isn't there, and that's something the EPA can't dictate without sending us all back to the brutality of a medieval, subsistence lifestyle. So, Hall Scott engines were very innovative for their time, but that time has come and gone. All that aside, this was a great presentation.
@WyattWillis88
@WyattWillis88 Год назад
Blown away by all the stories shared here in the comments! Man the VisioRacer followers make the comments as interesting as the videos and that's no small feat! Cheers to you all and hope you all are doing well 👍
@VisioRacer
@VisioRacer Год назад
Thank you! I do my best
@jamesdalton1346
@jamesdalton1346 Год назад
My Dad talked about working on these engines in log trucks, i had seen one until now. Thank you keep up the good work.
@slantfish65sd
@slantfish65sd Год назад
I really appreciate your work I've heard of Hall Scott engine's before but I haven't seen much detail about there engines I really appreciate this
@chrisretired5379
@chrisretired5379 Год назад
Years ago, one of my dad’s friends stopped by our house, with an old Kenworth with a Hall Scott V-12. You could feel it coming towards the house. The family friend had said it was used for logging and could not be beat. Of course, huge fuel capacity tanks a plenty.
@gregm4441
@gregm4441 22 дня назад
I think it was like in the video where the V-12 Kenworth was an experimental truck that never saw production. They did put the straight 6 in Kenworth trucks. I think those were mainly fire trucks.
@ericl2969
@ericl2969 Год назад
I stumbled upon this by accident. I've heard of Hall-Scott engines and knew that they were used in big snowplow trucks by FWD, Oshkosh, and I think also Walter. However, somehow I always thought they were as primitive as nearly all other gasoline engines of that era. I had NO IDEA that they were so highly advanced, reliable and long-lasting. What an amazing example of top-notch design from long ago!!
@bgreenwo2
@bgreenwo2 Год назад
In 1966 I was a member of the College Park Volunteer Fire Department and we purchased a Peter Persch pumper truck with a six cylinder Hall-Scott engine. I had never heard of Hall-Scott, but it was a great engine. It was replaced with a two stroke Detroit Diesel many years later.
@legiran9564
@legiran9564 Год назад
There's a modern analogue of the V12. The Cummings QST30. Up to 1,500 HP and 4,877 lbs-ft. Too bad nobody thought about dumping that on a Kenworth frame.
@bills6093
@bills6093 Год назад
"Cummins"
@andyvonyeast332
@andyvonyeast332 Год назад
Thank you Bill S.
@legiran9564
@legiran9564 Год назад
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@V8_screw_electric_cars
@V8_screw_electric_cars Год назад
Nobody has enough testosterone anymore
@MitzvosGolem1
@MitzvosGolem1 Год назад
Kta 1100 in Genset s Onan
@ImForwardlook
@ImForwardlook Год назад
As a Finn I do know that Hall-Scott engines are legendary! Thank You for the video!
@TarmenAmzarian
@TarmenAmzarian Год назад
I enjoy the way you go down the rabbit hole on our behalf. I had encountered the name Hall Scott a few times while looking in to weird old engineering, but I have never done any more research, and then you serve up a fabulous history leason. This is just perfect.
@loenhorst80
@loenhorst80 Год назад
I own a 59 kenworth which came from the factory with a 250hp hall scott lpg. I still have a copy of the original title were its on. When i bought it, it was already changed with a cummins 855 engine from 61. Real nice you were able to get all this information.
@upsidedowndog1256
@upsidedowndog1256 Год назад
Nice history lesson! I don't do big trucks so I have never heard of them. As an engine nerd I look at all of them when possible. I have probably seen several but didn't know what I was looking at. You should make a video about how many manufacturers have used hemispherical combustion chambers. (Jaguar, HD Sportster iron head Shovel, etc...) to show the Chrysler Hemi addicts that Chrysler was not the 1st or only brand to make a Hemi.
@Thinginator
@Thinginator Год назад
My favorite non-Chrysler Hemi is the four-cylinder engine in the Citroen DS! Probably one of the slower Hemis out there, but still neat. Also those little Predator engines you can buy at Harbor Freight have Hemi heads, so there are many Hemi-powered go karts in the world. Plus, oddly enough, Chrysler themselves actually produced a version of the Ford flathead V8 with Hemi heads in South America after acquiring a brand that had been building cars with license-built flathead V8s, which were in need of an update.
@3RTracing
@3RTracing Год назад
@@Thinginator many hemi combustion chambered engines all over the world way back into the 20's, and the first and original hemi was built at the beginning of the 1,900's.
@michaelharrison1093
@michaelharrison1093 Год назад
Thanks for the video. It is great to get the history of engines and vehicles for the companies that have faded into obscurity. I have heard about Hall Scott but didn't really know that much about them. Very interesting.
@jayztools4038
@jayztools4038 Год назад
Amazing info! Thanks for sharing. I have been a mechanic for over 20 years. This was my first time hearing of the brand.
@ThreenaddiesRexMegistus
@ThreenaddiesRexMegistus Год назад
I love this channel! New gems every time. . Americans, eh? - “Elbert, we need to stay ahead of the competition. Make a new engine, tough and reliable as usual, it has to outlast the pyramids, and throw some cubic inches at it!” “You got it Bert, how big?” “Yes!” God bless them! We’ll probably never see the like again but this is really something. The optimism, know-how, quality, and sheer will pervaded everything made in this time. Just look at Pratt & Whitney for example. Even an M1 Garand! I drive a little 392 to capture the last of it. Makes me happy! 😁
@Roddy_Zeh
@Roddy_Zeh Год назад
Learning more on every video! Never had heard about this company! Pretty cool! 👏🏻😁
@edwardschuck6986
@edwardschuck6986 Год назад
Never heard of them before but I'm not surprised...America was built with people like this...quality overs sales...We need to go back to that
@johnelliott7375
@johnelliott7375 Год назад
We are floored with this one for the standard as always is💥blown to pieces and I think you went above and beyond just like Hall Scott company did with their quality control and materials for the engines themselves! Couldn't ask for anything else from your devotion and details on this one. Bravo we salute you for a historical masterpiece and finding the samples of the engine to show us all was a great feat in itself. For this in the time of historical change as they are calling it is a masterpiece. Good morning and I hope that you have a wonderful Sunday.
@VisioRacer
@VisioRacer Год назад
Thank you very much, John!
@johnelliott7375
@johnelliott7375 Год назад
@@VisioRacer you are very welcome and I hope that you have a wonderful day. From the old farm lands in Western Pennsylvania North of Pittsburgh, PA. You and your family have a great day. Hopefully it is warmer where you are, 27 and chilly here.
@VisioRacer
@VisioRacer Год назад
@@johnelliott7375 Sadly, it is barely freezing out here. We have to travel to the mountains to see the white winter that I love very much.
@1oldskoolluvr
@1oldskoolluvr Год назад
Your videos NEVER cease to amaze me brother. The depth to which you strive to share as much knowledge that there is out there with us, is astounding to say the least! I remember hearing about these engines as a kid growing up in the 70's, but i can't recall if i saw one at any of the shows we frequented. Always a pleasure to watch another one of your videos. Thanks for sharing more of our forgotten internal combustion history!
@VisioRacer
@VisioRacer Год назад
Thank you!
@1oldskoolluvr
@1oldskoolluvr Год назад
@@VisioRacer 😉🍻
@elstondias9172
@elstondias9172 Год назад
Meanwhile Scania be like Hold my V8
@YCS-186
@YCS-186 Год назад
Hall Scott is the true embodiment of “no replacement for displacement”
@wilburfinnigan2142
@wilburfinnigan2142 Год назад
Thers NO substitute for cubic inches displacement !!!
@williamarnett9064
@williamarnett9064 Год назад
Great video. I’m interested in you making a video on Continental straight sixes. The 427ohv is what my grandpa used on the farm for an irrigation pump. He barely cracked the butterfly on the carburetor to get the power he needed. These engines were in the Brockway heavy duty trucks. Please make a video.
@HLife719
@HLife719 Год назад
I had previously not known about Hall Scott, but after watching your video, I’m in love! Only the best materials and sound engineering are exactly what I aspire to in builds. Mr. Hall and Mr. Scott are the kind of men I personally admire. Thanks for providing what is for me a new and proud chapter of U.S. motor accomplishment and history. 😊
@VisioRacer
@VisioRacer Год назад
I am happy to read such words, thanks!
@billrobertson1507
@billrobertson1507 Год назад
Wow I'm speechless. I had no idea they had so much HP in the 40's.1000 is crazy.
@ricepony33
@ricepony33 Год назад
Truly one of the best RU-vid channels out there.
@paulmartin8212
@paulmartin8212 Год назад
thanks for keeping this important history of technology alive.
@VisioRacer
@VisioRacer Год назад
My pleasure
@craigmclean8260
@craigmclean8260 Год назад
Great episode! The first Boeing aircraft (well, Boeing-Westervelt), the B-W1, was powered by a 125 HP Hall and Scott engine (two were built). Seattle Fire used to have a few Kenworths which were H-S powered; they had a distinct, deep rumbling exhaust note at a time (ca. 1970 and on) when SFD was replacing most of its engines and ladder trucks w/ Detroit Diesel-powered KWs. The old gassers (including some Mack B-Series trucks) were faster on the hills than the newer rigs...
@geofjones9
@geofjones9 Год назад
I never heard of these engines before. They sound awesome!
@petermacdonald3061
@petermacdonald3061 Год назад
Thank you for the informative and well documented video, I recall H/C in marine applications amazing to think these ran on gasoline or LPG, today we only think oh high displacement engines as diesel. Great work from you. Peter Mac Donald (Penang, Malaysia ).
@vladpootin5973
@vladpootin5973 Год назад
American power and reliability, unmatched !
@Rendraco79
@Rendraco79 Год назад
Your research and videos are excellent, as usual. THANK YOU SR.
@NBZW
@NBZW Год назад
If I’m not mistaken, a number of H-S were butane powered, drivers had nothing but praise for that engine, that would have been in 48-51. Old Donner Summit was the testing ground. What really impressed me about the H-S was the exhaust note, mufflers were not used then
@jessekalahar417
@jessekalahar417 Год назад
VisioRacer. you are literally my favorite engine spec channel on RU-vid. Everyone else covers the cars history more than the engine. I love your wide range of different combustion engines, especially the outboard two strokes🤜🏻🤜🏻🤜🏻
@VisioRacer
@VisioRacer Год назад
I love engines, history not as much. But I like the basic history needed to explain the engine roots and origin. Then the engine it is what I love to talk about the most
@jessekalahar417
@jessekalahar417 Год назад
@@VisioRacer love from sunny California🙏🏻
@DannyWalker1949
@DannyWalker1949 Год назад
I remember these Engines Very Well as my Dad had several of them. 1 thing I remember about these remarkable engines was Hoe They Would Backfire and Though Out About A 2 Foot Flame Up ansd Out of the Stack's (My Dad put on the second Stack) and the LOAD Backfire was so LOUD T00! Nothing compaires today like those engines. And with BIG Heavy Values it didn't seem to hurt it either...I remember Dad would Pass all the 0ther trucks unless it was another Hall-Scott powered truck this was in the 1050's when he started buying them. My brother still has Dad's favorite one of them in a barn/shop where Dad had the business back then. And it will Still G0 T00!
@cluricaun78
@cluricaun78 Год назад
What a cool and interesting episode! Thanks Sam :)
@Hydrogenblonde
@Hydrogenblonde Год назад
Magnificent engines, magnificent video. Another great insight into unusual engines from the past.
@wolftmfg
@wolftmfg Год назад
There was a guy who requested a video on hall and Scott I believe! This is nice to see 👍
@VisioRacer
@VisioRacer Год назад
Yes, quite often. Then I looked into the topic and had to make this video happen
@MAGGOT_VOMIT
@MAGGOT_VOMIT Год назад
Excellent report on this Visio!! I knew very little about this engine. Thanks!! 👍
@1ratdog1
@1ratdog1 Год назад
No, I had never heard of Hall Scott before.....VERY interesting! Thank you.
@dplant8961
@dplant8961 Год назад
Hi, Visioracer. Thank you for this video, much appreciated. I am pretty sure that Benjamin Holt of Holt manufacturing, one of the two companies which merged in 1925 to form Caterpillar, used a Hall Scott 4 cylinder engine in his 2-ton T35 tractor in the mid-1920s. Just my 0.02. You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.
@paulomiranda1717
@paulomiranda1717 Год назад
Awesome, smooth running gas engines.I never knew about these .Great video
@jongmans38
@jongmans38 Год назад
Really good video, had not heard of Hall Scott/Big Scot engines.
@josedanielrodriguez1126
@josedanielrodriguez1126 Год назад
Thank you for showing the history of engines
@matthewjones8620
@matthewjones8620 Год назад
Thank you for your time making this video, I have a 1948 kenworth hg825 (hg) for hall scott gasoline
@JosephCuratolo-eo3gu
@JosephCuratolo-eo3gu 2 месяца назад
Thanks for making this video. I have never heard of Hall Scott before. Very good engine design.
@fj9460-lr
@fj9460-lr Год назад
I don’t believe I had ever seen these engines, but as a kid growing up on a farm in the mid 1950’s I recall listening to all kinds of farm engines and nothing ever sounded as sweet as those in the video. Man what a treat!!
@apancher
@apancher Год назад
I've only ever heard a Hall Scott run once. It was in a fire truck and had a bad muffler. It was incredibly loud!
@RambleOnIan
@RambleOnIan Год назад
Yeah, you mentioned these recent videos are a big commitment and it shows. Love the direction of the chanel 👍
@pinkyellowblue007
@pinkyellowblue007 Год назад
Interesting video, I've had books on old American trucks but they didn't go into detail about the engines, Hall Scott was mentioned a lot in the books and I was always curious about these.
@greggpaul8053
@greggpaul8053 Год назад
That was amazing! Never knew about the v12 hall Scott engine, Al gore and his cronies would never allow great machinery like this exist today
@a3970010
@a3970010 Год назад
I had never heard of Hall Scott prior to this video. Their approach to quality over cost is something that I miss in today's market. There are so many cheap engines and transmissions today that buying a new car is a total gamble. Although on the other side of things, enormous engines consume enormous amounts of fuel. Today we have small engines that make huge power compared to their displacement but are being pushed to thier limits to do so. I'd wager very few of today's engines could make the 1M mile mark without needing some refreshing. Can you imagine the power of one of these Hall Scott engines if the efficiency per cubic inch was as good as some of today's engines?
@monsieurcommissaire1628
@monsieurcommissaire1628 Год назад
I liked your last sentence- now that's a dizzying thought! A marriage of the high standards of materials and workmanship from days past and modern day advances in technology that increase efficiency is fascinating to speculate on.
@guyforlogos
@guyforlogos 5 месяцев назад
Nice video, this is the first I’ve ever heard of Hall-Scott, what a great story!
@martinbuysabus932
@martinbuysabus932 7 месяцев назад
I have a friend with one. He pulled it out of an abandoned yarder that was a WW2 tank retriever originally. It has been sitting in his shop ready to go to work for over 30 years now.
@adriaanboogaard8571
@adriaanboogaard8571 Год назад
Nice video. I love the quote saying It can pass anything but a Fuel station. 😁
@GTA3Modder
@GTA3Modder Год назад
Awesome story, thanks so much for sharing with us! No, I had not heard about Hall-Scott before but they really built great and massive engines from what I learned here today. I approve!!! 🙌🏽🙌🏽 Greetz from Germany
@robertmoffett3486
@robertmoffett3486 7 месяцев назад
My first acquaintance with these was in about 1976. I found a bus frame in a wood off a highway ramp on Staten Island. I knew it was an ACF, with a (to me, then), unusual powertrain layout. I knew little about them, until this channel, and similar appeared. Back then, I only knew of Hall Scott as an early aircraft engine builder
@anthonyxuereb792
@anthonyxuereb792 Год назад
I first heard of Hall Scott due to my interest in fast patrol and torpedo boats, I think the British used them a lot .
@jw4620
@jw4620 7 месяцев назад
Amazing for their time, and still right up there.
@eldrenbiddle9358
@eldrenbiddle9358 Год назад
In the 50s I traveled from GA to Cleveland, OH on Greyhound. The bus I think was a Crown (?) and I had previously traveled on a GM 6-71 powered bus. When I asked what engine the bus had, the driver answered Hall-Scott. He also said that it was faster and a better hill climber than the 6-71 powered. In the summer we were live aboards at Lake Side Yacht Club in Cleveland and our adjacent boat neighbor had a beautiful 45 foot high speed yacht that was rumored to have been a rum-runner. One day the owner had the engine hatches open and the dual engines (six cylinder) were a work of art. The valve covers seemed to be cast cast aluminum finished to a high polish almost chrome like. And they sounded great, no mufflers. As a side note, there was an Armada of night time boat traffic between Cleveland and Canada during Prohibition.
@BaronVonDoom-xi7ih
@BaronVonDoom-xi7ih 4 месяца назад
I give the kid a lot of kudos. Most people don't even remember Hall Scott's. Or The old green diamond and Red diamond motors big cubic inch gas pots. They were faster than a diesel pass anything on the road has a commercial truck. except the gas pump. I worked on a 501. In a crane. got about 4 miles a gallon I think at best. I changed the carburetor from the old Holly haystack. around and put a Carter. on it did. some tweaking with it got more power out of it and got them up to 7 mi a gallon considering the crane weighed almost 100,000 lb. And would actually do road speed. Worked on a lot of Mac gas pots over 600 cubic inches also. Most people don't remember Mack used to make big cubic inch gas pot 6 cylinders. That were over 600 cubic inches. Annabelle 3 me if you were lucky to get one of those fuel efficient maybe five. But the diesels never did much better. 1693 cat motor got like. 2 to. 4. miles a gallon depending if you had the motor pumped up to 750 horse. Anne granite it was one hell of an engine it was out of a crawler. Yes it was a bulldozer motor. That was put in a lot of highway trucks when I was a kid. The Detroit 71 series and 92 series got about 6. Depending on gear some guys got like 7. Miles a gallon. Cummins diesels it didn't matter it was 150 is all the way up to the big cam 400s they always got about 4. To 5. Miles a gallon.. depending on gears you might get a bit more. Little nostalgia for everybody. Like I said kid did a cool video I'm glad you did something on call Scott motors 😀😀😀😀😀
@kirstenspencer3630
@kirstenspencer3630 Год назад
I worked for a school district in the mid seventys. Half of the 79 passenger school busses ( crown coach ) were powered by Hall Scott A 590 motors. Single overhead cams, the machine work was second to none. The first time I removed valve cover I was pleasantly surprised by the finish of the parts. Gorgeous comes to mind. Super reliable motors. Still miss them and the music only 590 cu inches can play. .....
@Tchristman100
@Tchristman100 Год назад
In the late 1960's, I took a Crown 35ft school bus with a Hall-Scott lay down engine rated at around 250hp. I easily beat the other buses with Cummins 220 or Detroit 238 Diesels. But got only about 3 mpg. I'd be curious to see how they would perform with today's variable valve timing, electronic ignition, direct fuel injection. I bet they'd be only about 15% less efficient than Diesels-which is the power difference between gasoline and Diesel.
@timmungenast
@timmungenast Год назад
I'm glad to learn about these wonderful monsters! Thank you!
@lindsaythomas2283
@lindsaythomas2283 Год назад
I never heard of Hall Scott till this video. Thanks.
@jackrichards1863
@jackrichards1863 7 месяцев назад
Excellent bit of research . Not my first viewing and still a refreshing foray into the Hall, Scott marque. 600 H.P. a wayy back then is always worth hearing recited over every year or so. After ten years I may be able to recite it myself? (vocally)
@jasonweir6345
@jasonweir6345 Год назад
Huge engines, but you still can't beat the simplicity and reliability of a diesel engine.
@shadowred1980
@shadowred1980 Год назад
I'd not heard of Hall and Scott before. I don't think it's an engine we got over in Europe. Thank you for putting the video together.
@marzsit9833
@marzsit9833 Год назад
during ww-ii hall-scott defender v12 engines were used in british fairmile patrol/torpedo boats. they were also used in other military equipment given to britain under the lend-lease act.
@Nobluffbuff
@Nobluffbuff Год назад
Very interesting engine company...never heard of it, nor the history. 👍
@SulCoCrazy
@SulCoCrazy 2 месяца назад
I work at a private collection, aviation museum. I heard of hall Scott because they initially started out making large displacement four-cylinder engines for airplanes. We have one of those on display. Eaglesmere air and Autumn museum in Eaglesmere Pennsylvania.
@ShopKatIndustries
@ShopKatIndustries 7 месяцев назад
Where I work they still have a 1948 ACF Brill transit bus with a Hall-Scott horizontal I-6...I want to get it running!
@garyelkhorn2116
@garyelkhorn2116 Год назад
Yes, I have known of Hall-Scott since the early 1960's when I saw the name in an old Motors Truck Repair Manual of my father's. I am a retired vehicle mechanic and historian and found that some of the marine pleasure boats used the Hall-Scott. The marine industry had many special engine manufactures in the twentieth century and I believe that they made many contributions to the mechanical engineering science that are unknown today.
@780brando
@780brando Год назад
awesome, I had never heard of the brand before
@invisibilianone6288
@invisibilianone6288 Год назад
If you heard a truck coming, 5 miles away, you KNEW it was a Hall Scott engine😁☕
@finehit
@finehit Год назад
That's one very cool engine surprised that V12 with 2000 ft lb of torque did not make it into the trucks. Thanks for the video very interesting👍👍
@ruxoneto6560
@ruxoneto6560 Год назад
Fuel consumption!!!!
@wilburfinnigan2142
@wilburfinnigan2142 Год назад
Those V12's were marine engines, sea rescue but NOT PT boats...Packard M2500 that were supercharged had that role larger and 1200 to 1500 HP
@whatsreal7506
@whatsreal7506 Год назад
My dad (RIP), was a fire equipment mechanic 1950s thru 80s. A Seagrave firetruck was equipped with a Hall Scott, IL six cylinder engine. 935 cubic inches. A real beast! The rest of the numbers very impressive as well. Truly, these engines were built to a very high standard! Thanks for sharing! Good stuff! 👍 👌👏
@DoWorkNP
@DoWorkNP Год назад
One of the top 5 uploaders on RU-vid. Love your videos big dog keep it up.
@michaelguerin56
@michaelguerin56 Год назад
Good video. Thank you. I first read about Hall and Scott engines in regard to the WWII ‘dragon wagon’ tank recovery vehicle (the truck and trailer combination is a tank transporter). I have more recently come across the Hall and Scott name via Ivan Dutton’s Shed Racing RU-vid channel. Ivan is a retired mechanic and former circuit racing champion who, inspired by his father’s racing mechanic history, eventually created a Bugatti restoration/repair specialist business, sold it to his son and is now doing some very interesting work in his so-called retirement. P.S. I have become a Patron.
@VisioRacer
@VisioRacer Год назад
Thank you, I appreciate that!
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