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Halo Infinite - Legendary Ending EXPLAINED! 

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@EvazeOfficial
@EvazeOfficial 2 года назад
The Flood Are Already In Halo Infinite: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iDz2lgYe4fI.html Halo Infinite The Endless Explained: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UGqUr9oKTSs.html Halo Infinite's Story Explained: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-k1bqIXlGQPc.html
@matthewwheeldon668
@matthewwheeldon668 2 года назад
If I fall remember two most rise . One that hinds in the shadows the other to distracted the enemy
@matthewwheeldon668
@matthewwheeldon668 2 года назад
I still think that if bungie was given creative freedom over halo then it would of become destiny over time Spartans would of become guardians after finding a precursor in stasis inside of the traveller
@joeycampbell940
@joeycampbell940 2 года назад
I'm gonna assume that the endless is actually the timeless one aka a precursor, and I thought it was made plenty obvious the the harbinger is the same race as the prophets based on their identical appearance and what she says about one race (humans) were aloud to continue while the other was punished severely since they couldn't be controlled (the prophets race).
@nagendramishra8947
@nagendramishra8947 2 года назад
Ending is all about time traveling bullshit just like every other sci-fi
@theelite49
@theelite49 2 года назад
The fact that the legendary ending mentions Offensive Bias makes it even more mysterious. Perhaps Grand Edict was talking about the battle between Offensive and Mendicant?
@LazyFaux5656
@LazyFaux5656 2 года назад
He is. In the beginning of the ending, it states "Zeta Halo 97,368 BCE." That puts it right at the ending of the Forerunner Flood War when Offensive Bias led the assault to retake the Ark and Zeta Halo from Mendicant Bias and the Primordial.
@trav2190
@trav2190 2 года назад
Nahhhhhh
@atrealjesus
@atrealjesus 2 года назад
Maybe we'll get to see my boy Virgil from odst. The engineers are mentioned. In the next game?
@sultankosmitov6293
@sultankosmitov6293 2 года назад
@@atrealjesus Forerunner engineers, sir.
@chrisp9098
@chrisp9098 2 года назад
I love that halo lore is so extensive. Thank you for being a "True believer."
@VenomSnake00
@VenomSnake00 2 года назад
The voice acting in this scene is top notch. Gave me chills
@Dan_Therapist
@Dan_Therapist 2 года назад
nearly as good as Halo 4s Ur Didact's speech
@TheWagenaar
@TheWagenaar 2 года назад
The music is 🤯
@chriswhite3692
@chriswhite3692 2 года назад
@@Dan_Therapist Fun fact- the guy that voiced Didact is the cop in The Dark Night that Joker captures from the interrogation room.
@predamanger
@predamanger 2 года назад
Well the actor who voiced the Grand Edict is Jeremy Irons, you’d expect it to be some good dialogue from him.
@hollowrenegade845
@hollowrenegade845 2 года назад
BatChest I GOT THE CHILLLZZZZZ
@angelsalinas6625
@angelsalinas6625 2 года назад
The fact that everything could tie in with the flood is amazing. Because not only does it set more story between the Banished, Master Chief, The Endless, and more, but it brings back one of the most greatest, nastiest, coolest enemies in Halo and video game series.
@npc6254
@npc6254 2 года назад
Bringing back the flood would lessen the end of Halo 3
@GreyMagee74
@GreyMagee74 2 года назад
@@npc6254 not really since they were in HW2... and The Endless/Precursors are the cause of The Flood.
@陳潔明-w6y
@陳潔明-w6y 2 года назад
@@GreyMagee74 I doubt bringing the Precursors into the fold would make sense... These guys used Psychic tentacles to wipe out star systems en mass... Unless we are to believe Chief's shielding can regenerate from being slammed by a planet...
@npc6254
@npc6254 2 года назад
@@GreyMagee74 Do we really know that the endless are the precursors? Why would 343 call them the endless if they’re just gonna turn out to be a race we already know of?
@GreyMagee74
@GreyMagee74 2 года назад
@@陳潔明-w6y seeing as The Precursors were the only known race that the Forunners yeeted and did what Harbinger was harping about, and the fact she looked and did some poses like the Precursors we've seen in art for them.... I'm gonna say they are the same race with a different name. It's kinda like we call Native Americans that, but they want to be called indigenous peoples or something else than natives.
@latrodectusmactans7592
@latrodectusmactans7592 2 года назад
"They believe we are here to help." This is really important. Help with what? Were the Endless fleeing the Flood and seeking shelter? Or were they were hoping the Forerunners could help control time to erase the Flood from history? There are a lot of possibilities, but it's clear the Endless trusted the Forerunners way more than they should have.
@masterchief5603
@masterchief5603 2 года назад
It's likely it was precursors.. but again it's so much fun
@jetstreamsam7853
@jetstreamsam7853 2 года назад
Forerunners lied to them about them coming to help The Endless so they could imprison them.
@jadeno.2872
@jadeno.2872 2 года назад
@@masterchief5603 nah not precursors, different species
@masterchief5603
@masterchief5603 2 года назад
@@jadeno.2872 I suppose it to be them because they are the ones to be called "timeless ones". Maybe trapped in those devices shown here by forerunners.
@0XIIIIII
@0XIIIIII 2 года назад
@@masterchief5603 its a new species its not precursors, or primordial. The primordial wasn't the only one capable of traveling dimensions and controlling time life etc. So much mystery in this universe what stories have we been told that are actually true? Think ab it
@HLGToys
@HLGToys 2 года назад
Just to add-on, the "fog" in the room reminded me of the Flood's spores, the Precursors tried to preserve themselves as dust that eventually become corrupted then turned into flood. The dust in that room is probably the pure dust that is leaking out of the cylixes.
@St.j.arthur
@St.j.arthur 2 года назад
There’s is a theory that the Precursor preservation dust didn’t become corrupt and that the Flood is their returning form in order to create a “true living universe.”
@GazzyD
@GazzyD 2 года назад
I either thought that The Endless were the Flood or the Precursors (before they became the Flood or whatever they did to bring the Flood into existence)
@ooziepro
@ooziepro 2 года назад
@T Rocka the endless are immune to the Halo. so yeah, probably worse
@shangothunder1055
@shangothunder1055 2 года назад
@@St.j.arthur Nah the Endless are returning.
@LazyFaux5656
@LazyFaux5656 2 года назад
My Take: Atriox want's to be able to utilize the time-warping capabilities of whatever species is within the Cylix to undo what Cortana has done and bring back his home world, or this is 343i Retconning the entirety of H5 lol. I also believe we'll get a playable Atriox, as the scene is from his POV.
@pepsigubben8972
@pepsigubben8972 2 года назад
Ooh you're probably right, Atriox would certainly want to bring back the Brute homeworld. He's probably gonna fire off a couple of new wars against the endless doing it too.
@AdamSmith-vj5uk
@AdamSmith-vj5uk 2 года назад
Playable Atriox... now that would be awesome!
@Ripa-Moramee
@Ripa-Moramee 2 года назад
It's not a trailer lol
@iseepoo
@iseepoo 2 года назад
I could agree and its very possible that the next halo game will be modeled very similar to halo 2 in regards to being able to play as master chief and the arbiter filling in both story lines
@Ripa-Moramee
@Ripa-Moramee 2 года назад
@@iseepoo This is not likely to happen, it's more likely 343 will just make DCL's for halo infinite as it has a 10 year life journey.
@jflo333
@jflo333 2 года назад
When you collect the 7 artifacts. The weapon says that the data was filled with deep regret and sorrow from a long long time ago. In halo CE, guilty spark says to chief "Why would you hesitate to do what you have already done?" before attempting to activate halo. And now this time travel talk with the endless. Does chief travel in time and activate halo? Does Infinity signify a time loop of events?
@shugo5130
@shugo5130 2 года назад
No, Master chief has a Forerunner geas of the ISO-didact, it’s an imprint. That’s what guilty spark was talking about, his ancients past.
@8BitNostalgia
@8BitNostalgia 2 года назад
@@shugo5130 correct. Also as a "reclaimer" he technically has fired the Rings before. Around 97,000 years ago.
@spartancecchi
@spartancecchi 2 года назад
@@8BitNostalgia can you elaborate more on that?
@L0v3dNL0st
@L0v3dNL0st 2 года назад
@@spartancecchi the ISO Didact fired the ring and marked humanity as the inheritors of the Mantle and Reclaimers of the Galaxy. We also know human were once the rivals of the forerunners and that the forerunners then killed the precursors (which makes one wonder what they did to humans since it's literally millions of years later when the flood comes into the picture). But since humans and forerunners were set as rivals and their similarities are often talked about it seems likely that the two are very genetically similar. If you assume the ISO Didact set them to recognize humans AS forerunners then Spark's comment makes sense. (Though the real reason is because Bungie were planning on the forerunners actually being ancient humans and the firing of the rings set everyone back)
@imd2565
@imd2565 2 года назад
I think what Guilty Spark meant something more along the lines of “why hesitate to kill when you’ve done it before” implying that Cortana and chief had it in them to kill everyone
@thekimmyist220
@thekimmyist220 2 года назад
You can tell he survived the explosion caused by cortana from the scarring on his face, he also no longer has the war paint of the banished. Very interesting! Can't wait for more as always lol
@Foxyman18
@Foxyman18 2 года назад
Was his left eye always red too? Maybe that shows he’s on a new side???
@johnkenley4687
@johnkenley4687 2 года назад
@@Foxyman18 that just might be his eye being bloodshot from damage
@thekimmyist220
@thekimmyist220 2 года назад
@@Foxyman18 I don't think it was actually, I just played halo wars 2 and I didn't see it red. Idk about a new side per say except that he's definitely trying to build a new army. One that might kill him.
@nR00R
@nR00R 2 года назад
His face was always scarred tho..??
@thekimmyist220
@thekimmyist220 2 года назад
@@nR00R It was, I should've explained there's a difference to that instead of saying it was just now scarred, cause yes it always was. you can compare the first cutscene to the last and it has clearly worsened. Especially on his nostril and on the side of his face leading up to his eye and beyond. His scar used to mainly be his cheek and slight cleft from a wound on his lip.
@Bittzen
@Bittzen 2 года назад
Atriox didn't go back in time. They show him standing looking over the cylixes to show that he is about to free the endless. The forerunner dialogue in the past was giving us insight about what atriox was about to do, since the endless are new to Halo. I also think that maybe those rings that are broken that look like portals we find around the Halo ring might actually be portals once the endless are freed. Remember, this game is going to be serviced for 10 years, and obviously the campaign ended on many cliffhangers intentionally to show that there will be more content added to it. It'd be a cool practical aspect if those portals bring us to different locations on the ring that we can't see in the distance, so we can experience different biomes, for one, because the pines and mountains are eventually gonna get old over 10 years. Also, it's clear atriox thinks he can control the endless and wants to use them to reverse what has happened. when I forgot who it was, a female, told him the endless will change everything he knows, he said good. Also remember Cortana wiped out his people. Atriox wants to control the universe or something and thinks he can change everything and con the endless. Then we'll probably see that he can't. I wonder if the endless will be an ally to us or an enemy, clearly we now know the harbinger isn't one of the endless since she can't control time and the way she talks about them. And the forerunner flood war ended at the time in the ending, so we might expect flood to return to infinite. That'd be awesome. I'm thinking they're calling it Halo Infinite for a reason. Infinite things to do, or infinite things changing, the endless creating infinite things or changing things on the map. or the fact the endless would be infinite since they control time and I guess can't die. That must mean the endless will play a huge major role in infinite, I think the game's story ark will revolve around them over the next few years
@anthonycarlisle6184
@anthonycarlisle6184 2 года назад
Exactly 👍
@chrism8961
@chrism8961 Год назад
If they control time do you think they're lining up a reunion between Cortana and Chief somehow before she turned?
@thecapone45
@thecapone45 11 месяцев назад
In the game they jumped forward a few days though. And later cortana says she picked up a message that was old... really old. Harbinger was talking to someone and I really think thats why they showed Atriox. That was definitely him going back in time.
@jeep3r
@jeep3r 2 года назад
Maybe the Endless are the Precursors and the Foruner's truth is that hey were gifted the mantle of responsibility instead of stealing it by destroying the Precursors.
@TaMightyM00se
@TaMightyM00se 2 года назад
Original lore is that ancient humans were supposed to up hold the mantle, the forerunners were upset with this and attacked the precursors. Along with that humanity had been wiping out flood infestations some on forerunner planets. The forerunners thought they were being attacked so they nearly wiped ancient humans from the galaxy, the kept some alive on the rings and setting back their evolution. So unless 343i changes the lore that's been established, the endless or "PUNISHED" are most likely ancient humans. That's just my assumption.
@Rrgr5
@Rrgr5 2 года назад
I was thinking that too, there were some ancient humans on Zeta Halo indeed, but probably isn't human, since the Harbinger said that the reclaimer wasn't the future, so, humans out of question.
@teyvattravelguide8555
@teyvattravelguide8555 2 года назад
@@TaMightyM00se i doubt ancient humans can control time which is a construct even the forerunners cant grasp. Harbinger is one of the endless since she was released from a cylax in the beginning and she looks alot like precursor
@Skoopman
@Skoopman 2 года назад
@@TaMightyM00se I would agree with you but the Harbinger is very obviously not an ancient human. My money is on the original comments theory that the Endless could be the precursors. I do like that theory though.
@AlbertusSalvatierra
@AlbertusSalvatierra 2 года назад
The Harbinger is a Xalanyn aka “Endless” - a brand new Halo faction & species. They’re immune to Halo blasts - funny enough, the Forerunners didn’t even know they existed until after the blast. The were brought from their homeworld onto Zeta Halo - where they lived for some time. Then were eventually experimented upon, interrogated, judged, and then imprisoned - all of that by the Forerunners. Supposedly they threatened the Forerunner’s claim to the Mantle. Which makes sense, cuz the Forerunners are easily offended pompous jerks. Which is why the Endless got imprisoned… and now their free, thanks to Atriox & Harbinger.
@scott_clarke
@scott_clarke 2 года назад
"time is not a construct we can control" "we cannot let it be theirs." this implies time as a construct can be controlled by someone
@princeharris2660
@princeharris2660 2 года назад
Ironic, considering the Didact used a chamber to age the last known Primordial's physical form out of existence, billions of years over the course of seconds. Time was a construct the Forerunners could control, but maybe the rapid aging of the Primordial occurred after they imprisoned the Endless? Makes sense to me.
@mkat9249
@mkat9249 2 года назад
@@princeharris2660 this conversation during the legendary ending takes place after the firing of the halo array.
@Spherecaster
@Spherecaster 2 года назад
@@princeharris2660 The forerunners had limited time manipulation abilities utilising slipspace bubbles yes (I believe onyx is a good example of this if I remember correctly), but it's being heavily implied that the endless have complete control over it as the harbinger was sending a signal back through time. As for the chamber you mentioned, it was actually precursor in origin, a "Reverse Timelock".
@eric.waffles
@eric.waffles 2 года назад
Given the fact that Chief and the Weapon accidentally jump 3 days into the future when escaping the Auditorium, it seems like they might be going full time travel. Curious if that means Chief will go back to previous games, or if he'll go back to the ancient times of the Forerunner's rule. Only time will tell.
@TMek42
@TMek42 2 года назад
doubtful, jumping forward in time would be more like stepping outside of time and reentering later, much like a form a stasis. Going backwards in time is a whole different can of worms
@chriswhite3692
@chriswhite3692 2 года назад
What the Weapon said at the end was interesting. "The signal is old. Really old." Whoever Harbinger was talking to at the very end was WAY back there. I think Atriox WAS 100,000 years back
@eric.waffles
@eric.waffles 2 года назад
@@TMek42 nah they put a lot of emphasis on Zeta Halo being different than the others and that it holds a lot of secrets? and then we find out Chief went 3 days into the future and Atriox is somehow thousands of years in the past? It really does seem like time travel is going to happen.
@Wyatt0987654321
@Wyatt0987654321 2 года назад
yeah time travel seems possible especially if you look at the fact that they used the new armor for scenes in the past
@P4PKing
@P4PKing 2 года назад
@@eric.waffles They never specify who the ancient signal was, and we don't know if Atriox was put into the past either.
@themetroidprime
@themetroidprime 2 года назад
The Grand Edict's voice is also very, very similar to the Didact's. Also, note that the Endless' cylaxes are different from the Harbinger's that we can see at the end of mission 2.
@comradejack5376
@comradejack5376 2 года назад
He sounds like Valkorian
@ryankoh917
@ryankoh917 2 года назад
Entirely possible that hes the other Didact. The IsoDidact, or Bornsteller-Makes-Eternal-Lasting
@cherrypoptart2001
@cherrypoptart2001 2 года назад
There are many other high ranking forunners above the didact so who knows...
@themetroidprime
@themetroidprime 2 года назад
@@ryankoh917 That would be great. We have very little info on what happened to the few surviving Forerunners after the fixing of the Halo array.
@UskaVII
@UskaVII 2 года назад
With the endless being capable of time manipulation it's not far fetched for Atriox to have been sent back in time. It also brings sense to the person the harbinger was talking to since the signal was ancient
@ASimpleMangoMan
@ASimpleMangoMan 2 года назад
The technology producing the signal is probably just old. Probably older than the forerunners tech. The message was definitely for Atriox, but if they literally sent him all the way back in time it wouldn't make sense. No one would have a chance in hell of stopping them. It's obviously still taking place in the present or we're in for a shitty cluster fuck of a game with terrible plot holes coming up. If time was that drastically changed then no one would have memories of what happened and shit. Entire races might not exist anymore, etc. Everything would change and there is no way the writers could keep up.
@marcocortese6558
@marcocortese6558 2 года назад
I also found curious the the harbinger could teleport during the final battle as if she was anticipating your moves and travelling through time
@maxnicely8926
@maxnicely8926 2 года назад
@@ASimpleMangoMan I can't yet disagree with the time theory because its curious that Atriox was absent the whole game and seemingly ignoring theBanished. They all thought him dead when cortana blew up part of the ring. But he may have been teleported in time instead. I don't think Atriox would have any reason to ignore Echarum since there isn't anything suggesting that had altier motives.
@joebestavros
@joebestavros 2 года назад
@@ASimpleMangoMan yeah I don't think Atriox time travelled although I could be wrong. It wouldn't make sense that no forerunner could stop him from freeing the endless. I think the dialogue is taking place in the past and the scene is happening in the present. The only thing that confuses me is when the weapon says "the signal is old, like really old". Maybe she was talking to someone else in the past who wasn't atriox but helped present atriox get to the ring. One more point to prove that wasn't in the past, look at atriox's face, it's half burnt. That happened when Cortana sacrificed herself in front of atriox which happened recently
@andrewmeyer3599
@andrewmeyer3599 2 года назад
The problem with the time travel theory is this is when the Ring's and their defenses and Monitors were still basically at their peak and not undergoing rampancy or disrepair. it would be almost impossible for Atriox to singlehandedly get to where the Endless are in a Halo Ring that was only freshly left to the Monitors meaning still a full stock of Sentinels and other goodies the Monitors got to use to defend their installations
@goldenjarl7913
@goldenjarl7913 2 года назад
The guy who voices Grand Edict is the same guy who Voiced Valkoreion in The Old Republic! No wonder why I’d recognized him!
@GaelinTheBeast
@GaelinTheBeast 2 года назад
Oh lovely, now I'm remembering how he betrayed his Wrath. I trust the Grand Edict even less now.
@ShabazDraee
@ShabazDraee 2 года назад
Haha good ear
@scott_clarke
@scott_clarke 2 года назад
Darin De Paul is a top notch voice actor.. best of the best.. he voiced multiple characters including the forerunner speaking in the legendary ending.. he also voiced escharum. he voiced emperor valkorion in star wars the old republic
@TonyTheTostone
@TonyTheTostone 2 года назад
Imagine if the endless can still be infected by the flood, and they can’t even be killed by halo… The Endless Flood 🤯👀
@maxnicely8926
@maxnicely8926 2 года назад
If they can’t be killed by rings then they can’t be infected by the flood. I doubt they are machine organisms because they are preserved in Cylixes, but if they are then they might get the logic plague.
@TonyTheTostone
@TonyTheTostone 2 года назад
Why wouldn’t they be able to infect the Endless? If the Endless are like the Harbinger then they can most definitely infect them as she is an organic being and the flood can infect and assimilate any organic matter and infect them at will, and if the Endless are Precursors then they can also be infected because the flood is essentially just corrupt precursors.
@maxnicely8926
@maxnicely8926 2 года назад
@@TonyTheTostone the Rings destroy nervous systems which is also required for flood assimilation.
@boltPoke
@boltPoke 2 года назад
@@maxnicely8926 I wonder if the endless will control the flood
@sadiqahmed4143
@sadiqahmed4143 2 года назад
@@boltPoke if they are Precursors they could just End up being Flood +Precursors Abilties
@thebigonion2073
@thebigonion2073 2 года назад
In the Harbingers last moments she is talking to Atriox in 97.368 BCE. The weapon confirms that the signal is really old. The Harbinger is telling Atriox that he has what he needs to release the endless and we see him do it in the legendary ending
@Vexies
@Vexies 2 года назад
It's after the credits right? I saw that too on normal
@danielllitpek2014
@danielllitpek2014 2 года назад
@@Vexies The Dialogue is on Legendary, other difficulties are cutscene only
@Vexies
@Vexies 2 года назад
@@danielllitpek2014 yeah just realized
@almighty5839
@almighty5839 2 года назад
Yup spot on
@renegadeone9479
@renegadeone9479 2 года назад
No you are probably over analyzing without any proof. 97,368 BCE means Forerunners are still there reseeding life.
@IronVigilance
@IronVigilance 2 года назад
You ever notice how that last room had a bunch of Jiralhanae Cylixes? I think Atriox was trying to bring his people back since Cortana did the deed on his homeworld
@chaosbringer9007
@chaosbringer9007 2 года назад
YOOO YES, since forerunners have the technology to move whole PLANETS I believe that is one of the things he's trying to accomplish since he got sent back to the past.
@joebestavros
@joebestavros 2 года назад
Which room? The boss fight one?
@Yeffy
@Yeffy 2 года назад
@@ILootStandingStill I think he means the room of the Silent Auditorium.
@codycortez8660
@codycortez8660 2 года назад
@@chaosbringer9007 he didn’t get sent back to the past bro lmao
@rileynoble8013
@rileynoble8013 2 года назад
What if the goal on zeta halo was a new home world for the banished
@TheEcho112
@TheEcho112 2 года назад
The Endless being Precursors seems like a red herring to me. Firstly because they (Precursors) were supposed to have been eradicated by the forerunners eons before the Halos were even built. Secondly, the Precursors were the ones in charge at the time, the forerunners overthrew them and took over the mantle of responsibility from them. Lastly, aside from the primordial who was the last Precursor, the rest basically turned into the flood (short version). So that being said, if the Endless are Precursors, there's no way they would think the forerunners were there to help them.
@TheSeanyJC
@TheSeanyJC 2 года назад
The precursors never went extinct mate
@TheEcho112
@TheEcho112 2 года назад
@@TheSeanyJC Wait what? I thought they confirmed that in the Forerunner trilogy of books?
@masterchief5603
@masterchief5603 2 года назад
@@TheEcho112 I suppose it goes bit further.. precursors fled to some stellar cloud. While take the context that they have travelled to many other galaxies as well, eradication from milky way is sure but not from universe. Secondly after fleeing, some turned to flood (if I suppose that's right..) while others perhaps maybe just went away.
@TheCosmicGuy0111
@TheCosmicGuy0111 2 года назад
@@TheEcho112 no they weren’t totally eradicated, plus they had the power to bend time and space at will so if Anyhting they just made it seem like they were killed off
@TheEcho112
@TheEcho112 2 года назад
@@masterchief5603 Oh right ...I forgot about that part.
@javabucket561
@javabucket561 2 года назад
Harbinger said she was a messenger during her fight, so I assume she’s the one who is supposed to wake the precursors from their deep sleep after they half-destroyed themselves in the forerunner-precursor war. Also when the surviving precursors did destroy themselves into dust and some got corrupted into flood, she might have just contacted the FLOOD…. 0_0
@Kawasaki10rr
@Kawasaki10rr 2 года назад
I doubt they will end up being precursors, I really hope they are bc ive wanted more lore on them since I first read about them.
@mcfeddle
@mcfeddle 2 года назад
The Precursors are extinct. The Flood is the only remains of them.
@misery9870
@misery9870 2 года назад
@@mcfeddle there are actually a few left, but these definitely aren’t them.
@masterchief5603
@masterchief5603 2 года назад
@@mcfeddle I think precursors were inter galactic civilization. They even got to black eye Galaxy and fought something like flood but it was black in color called enigma. There isn't really much written on it around but I read that if I remember correctly.
@Rrgr5
@Rrgr5 2 года назад
Could be, maybe even a different kind of them, but if they went asking for help, seems like they had an common enemy, the flood, quite interesting how they could be worst than the flood but also weak to them, would be interesting to see how this workout, also, Zeta Halo wasn't the ancient human Halo? Like, where they were imprisoned after the war.
@blitzwolfer4154
@blitzwolfer4154 2 года назад
At first I thought the Endless was The Flood as it is technically endless and has been trapped on Halo rings for study, but it is probably something else, and it could very well be a precursor or something.
@mr.ditkovich6379
@mr.ditkovich6379 2 года назад
Cortana said the endless are worse than the flood
@javabucket561
@javabucket561 2 года назад
Some precursors did turn into the flood, so she could be contacting the flood either way, as she did state she was a messenger…. HMMM
@blitzwolfer4154
@blitzwolfer4154 2 года назад
@@mr.ditkovich6379 That's true, then it begs, if the Flood is a threat to all sentient life... That means the Endless has the power to do so much more worse things...
@powderhounds77
@powderhounds77 2 года назад
Isn’t it also mentioned that the rings don’t affect the endless? Which it’s also been said that the rings don’t kill the flood they just kill their food.
@TheCosmicGuy0111
@TheCosmicGuy0111 2 года назад
@@blitzwolfer4154 probably precursors, I mean they had to power to manipulate time and space at will for most part so.
@derek4666
@derek4666 2 года назад
I’m guessing the endless can do what happened at the end kinda if the rings are fired they can travel like chief did a couple days into the future hence the rings can not destroy them since they can just skip 3 days ahead that’s my best guess as there’s no other reason to send chief 3 days into the future without context
@windingroadelven
@windingroadelven 2 года назад
I absolutely agree with this.
@jwhiskey534
@jwhiskey534 2 года назад
The only species in Halo Lore that I can think of to get to that level of manipulating time & space are the Precursors.
@derek4666
@derek4666 2 года назад
@@jwhiskey534 either them or could it be a brand new species never talked about or any data recorded since the forerunners didn’t want anyone knowing about them idk
@Zunedoodle77
@Zunedoodle77 2 года назад
@@jwhiskey534 Interesting.... because the only "known" secret of the Forerunners is that they weren't the true inheritors of the Mantle (that was supposed to be Humanity by the Precursors design). The Forerunners stole the mantle, killed the Precursors (who actually created the Forerunners, so it was a case of the created rebelling against the creator), and prevented the rightful owners of the mantle from acquiring it.
@jwhiskey534
@jwhiskey534 2 года назад
@@Zunedoodle77 Indeed just finished playing Halo Infinite Campaign. The notion of something “that’s worse than the Flood” lead me to the Precursors/Primordials/Endless ones as they basically are the progenitors of the Flood. Here’s an interesting snippet from Halopedia: “the Master Builder had the prisoner (Precursor) taken to Installation 07 so that it could be interrogated by Mendicant Bias. At some point during the long interrogation, which lasted roughly 43 years or 379,807 hours, the prisoner convinced Mendicant Bias to betray his Forerunner masters via the use of the logic plague. From this point on, he began conducting experiments on the Human and Forerunner occupants of Installation 07, consisting of infecting individuals with the "Shaping Sickness," known more commonly as the Flood. At the end of Halo: Primordium, it is revealed that the prisoner is actually a Gravemind, re-enforcing the established canon concerning the betrayal of the Forerunners by 032 Mendicant Bias. In the ending of Primordium, the prisoner was captured by the Didact using ancient Precursor technology called a Reverse Timelock, which accelerated time within its immediate sphere, causing the Primordial to rapidly age and eventually decay.”
@AnnisAdventures
@AnnisAdventures 2 года назад
I think this is so interesting, because I began writing a story that included offensive bias a long while back. He was the only AI that could defeat mendicant bias and was tactically Superior. Offensive bias was deployed because mendicant bias turned against the forerunners, and defensive bias beat him by capturing him and dismantling his software piece by piece and confining each of those pieces.
@legion4902
@legion4902 2 года назад
Does anyone see similarities between Offensive and mendicant, and Cortana and the Weapon.
@ek9595
@ek9595 2 года назад
They fucked up that story line with halo 5 and how they had to retcon
@crusader7eth163
@crusader7eth163 2 года назад
Yeah it’s meant to be a little magical same way cortana almost looked like she merged with chief and the weapon maybe she gave the weapon more life like cortana and she even calls herself cortana so I’m pretty stoked for the next part😆
@dr.stephenstrange8471
@dr.stephenstrange8471 2 года назад
Not really the weapon and cortana weren’t trying to kill each other.
@weybye91
@weybye91 2 года назад
@@crusader7eth163 weapon and cortarna is one and the same, weapon is just cortana without haveing meet master cheif in the first place
@LazyFaux5656
@LazyFaux5656 2 года назад
@@weybye91 It's really funny seeing 343i retconning an entire game.
@Ty-wf6mg
@Ty-wf6mg 2 года назад
I’m not sure how monumental this moment is in mainline halo games. The endless is most likely the precursors. And then throw in offensive bias in the mix and you got a crazy future for halo games.
@malachiflannery9093
@malachiflannery9093 2 года назад
As far as I know the precursors are all-but confirmed extinct. The Primordial (Gravemind) even claimed to be the last one. The Flood is all that remains of the Precursors, which is why I think it’d be weird if the Endless were the Precursors. Because they often compare the Endless to the Flood throughout the game.
@Ty-wf6mg
@Ty-wf6mg 2 года назад
@@malachiflannery9093 There can be multiple grave minds I believe. But the primordial in particular was not necessarily a grave-mind. In the lore the primordial was brought to installation 7, zeta halo, to be imprison it around 100,000 BCE. Right around the time of the ending in Halo. Idk who else the endless could be seeing how they can control time I beleive.
@malachiflannery9093
@malachiflannery9093 2 года назад
@@Ty-wf6mg With that assumption about the Endless in mind, and knowing that the Precursors turned themselves into the Flood as a last-ditch revenge against the defiance of the Forerunners, I feel like it would be silly for the Precursors to go through all that nonsense... if they already were able to control time in their pre-Flood state to begin with. Also, the whole reason the Flood happened was because of a powder-like substance created by the Precursors which was supposed to be able to survive the firing of the Halo Array, and then this powder would somehow form into a Precursor. But something went wrong, and they instead became this bastardized form of a Precursor, which eventually became known as the Flood. It was also said in the story that the Endless were immune to the firing of the Halo Array to some degree, we aren't exactly sure how yet (presumably through their meddling with time). But, we also know (given all current knowledge) that the Precursors WERE vulnerable to the firing of the Halo Array, or at least, the Domain was. Which was Precursor technology. The Endless were also around alongside the Flood, which is one of the more "in your face" reasons that I think they're separate from the Precursors. So, although I don't think the Endless are the Precursors, I do think it is very possible they're some kind of disciple, or descendant? Maybe even a Precursor to the Precursors? Or a Forerunner experiment gone wrong? We do know that the Precursors are responsible (to some extent) for the existence of sentient life. But honestly, Atriox is probably the only one that knows what the hell is going on.
@pagado6076
@pagado6076 2 года назад
I assume the endless and Harbinger were other aliens in the universe that challenged the forerunner and obviously lost.
@sultankosmitov6293
@sultankosmitov6293 2 года назад
@@malachiflannery9093 What if The Endless are not exactly a form of sentient life as we know it? I mean - they could even stand above of what's called "life". Time manipulation would be a countermeasure to passing away, but I feel like there's something else about their nature.
@ryangow4881
@ryangow4881 2 года назад
I literally have said since the beginning, chief will be the one (alongside guilty spark) to fire the rings...he will travel back in time to stop the endless! That's why guilty sparks line from c.e is "why do you hesitate to do that which you have already done...
@OriginaLTrzin
@OriginaLTrzin 2 года назад
Oh my fucking god..
@arlaux1099
@arlaux1099 2 года назад
The line is in reference to Guilty Spark seeing the culmination of the Geas of Bornstellar rising in John 117. It shows that John 117 is the reclaimer, and so too is much of humanity. John is special though as it seems he has a particularly strong tie to the geas of bornstellar, which is why characters keep referencing it as such from Halo CE with Guilty Spark to The Librarian, all realize that in chief is a part of the Iso Didact, od Bornstellar. In John 117 are the echos of the genesong of the Iso Didact, this is partly what pushes him - and much of humanity - to continue persevering, no matter what.
@elifernandez331
@elifernandez331 2 года назад
You got this in the bag
@ryangow4881
@ryangow4881 2 года назад
@@arlaux1099 I've read every single novel, got just about every piece or merch...I'm well aware what 343 want us to think. Just with time travel being introduced into it now...makes perfect sense. What a poignant ending it would make, that to save humanity, John has to wipe it out...possibly alongside himself!
@TannerHinzeFitness
@TannerHinzeFitness 2 года назад
@@ryangow4881 it would be a hell of a thing for that to happen. Halo 1 came out 20 years ago I doubt they planned that far ahead but who knows maybe 343 will make the tie themselves
@StephenMoreira
@StephenMoreira 2 года назад
I think missing a big part here is who was helping the MC and the Weapon? It just being Cortana's echos doesn't add up for a system that was actively helping them the whole fight and teleporting them out. Maybe it was Offensive Bias?
@ILootStandingStill
@ILootStandingStill 2 года назад
Thinking the same thing too, Offensive could have been left on the ring since his win over mendicant. I just found one of the forerunner rings/audio log and the Weapon said something about sensing another intelligence on the ring that feels lonely. Honestly it makes an insane amount of sense when you think about the fact that even mendicant helped Chief back on the Ark in H3. If the timeless are the precursors/primordial/flood it would also make sense for Offensive to still be around the area that they’re imprisoned incase they somehow get released again.
@andrewmeyer3599
@andrewmeyer3599 2 года назад
@@ILootStandingStill It wouldn't make much sense for it *not* to be, Offensive knew the Humans were the new holders of the Mantle and would absolutely do anything to help the Reclaimers keep the Endless imprisoned, especially if he himself isn't able to do so for whatever reason
@markhohenbrink5230
@markhohenbrink5230 2 года назад
@@ILootStandingStill I think the lonely part is actually the fragments of mendicant bias itself. After the Forerunner Flood war, Mendicant was shattered to only feel regret for what it had done, was sentences in silence, and broken apart. Mendicant has shown multiple times it is willing to help humanity. The Ark and its resistance in High Charity are some examples.
@ILootStandingStill
@ILootStandingStill 2 года назад
@@markhohenbrink5230 mendicants core was on the dreadnaught from H2 while his seperate fragment was buried deep beneath the sands on the ark. There aren’t any fragments of him left on installation 07. We don’t know what they did with offensive after the war though, the legendary cutscene at the end definitely solidifies that offensive bias was deployed to assist Despondant Pyre with her imprisonment and secrecy of the Endless.
@markhohenbrink5230
@markhohenbrink5230 2 года назад
@@ILootStandingStill mendicant bias was not broken into just 2 shards. It was broken down into as many shards that offensive bias had ships left. This number is not known, and judging by how mendicant actively helps Master Chief throughout the series there is a chance that its Mendicant. The forerunner artifacts on the rings can either be interpreted that its the remaining thoughts of the shard or Offensive Bias thoughts. You are probably right that its Offensive Bias, but there is a slim chance its another shard of mendicant bias.
@Maou_cat
@Maou_cat 2 года назад
Maybe Endless is a race of AI? Since they can last forever and cannot be killed by Halo firing. Also since offensive bias is meant to fight other AI.
@tristanwalker2858
@tristanwalker2858 2 года назад
maybe like the reapers from mass effect
@sandipansarkar4932
@sandipansarkar4932 Год назад
7:41 we do have to notice the fact that after harbinger talked with atriox, the weapon says that Harbinger was contacting something old, something really old which implies that Harbinger was contacting with atriox in past
@codyboop4617
@codyboop4617 2 года назад
I'm so excited that you are involved with Halo's story as well. I really enjoy your content bro, and the effort is very much appreciated! I just finished the campaign and had such a blast!
@TheGamingSpartanA113
@TheGamingSpartanA113 2 года назад
Honestly leading towards the idea that Zeta Halo can warp reality and travel people through time. There are some key facts to note that happened that may build into the idea of time-travel, aside from the fact that 343i might end up using it to rewrite Halo 4/5 (5 more specifically): - Atriox's homeworld was obliterated by Cortana. Cortana was made by Humanity, so Atriox took his revenge out on Humanity. - Atriox is probably wanting to reverse the destruction of his homeworld and seeks out Zeta Halo to change something, if he already took his revenge on Humanity, why would he need a Halo Ring with an Unknown purpose to be rebuilt? - Cortana damaged the Ring enough to disable it, so Atriox couldn't use it. Clearly has more power potency than the Guardians destroying Atriox's homeworld and is a threat enough to warrant it. - Eschurum and the rest of the Banished keep talking about how Atriox died, Atriox died. But why do they think Atriox died? Did Atriox tell them to lie about it so he can fake his death and proceed unimpeded. OR Atriox traveled through time to that 97,368 BCE, and him going missing without warning led Eschurum to believe Atriox was killed. - When Chief travels through the random open portal at the end of the game, 3 days go by in a matter of seconds without Chief being aware. The Forerunners can build galaxy destroying super-weapons that specifically target sentient life. They can build Guardians that can cull evolution/development and/or destroy entire planets. Build (essentially cryo-pods) Cryptums that can imprison and maintain the life of sentient beings within (Ur Didact/Halo 4 and then also Chief/Halo 5). Not entirely off to think Forerunners could have a method of time-travel. So I don't necessarily believe that it's just historic dialog playing over present-day cinematics, otherwise why would they time-stamp it? Halo has a history of playing dialog over current cinematics as a callback/flashback/memory/history, but they never timestamped it before. See movies/shows like Avengers: Endgame, Loki, (and maybe if I recall correctly) Back to the Future where timestamps are a common practice if characters are jumping through time-lines and establish context. Watching and theorizing about time-travel a lot over the years leads me to believe that Halo: Infinite is leaning into the idea of time-travel. Even from a cinematic/storytelling perspective, that time-stamp is not misplaced or an after thought addition for the legendary ending, and it's almost definitely to establish where Atriox is presently, since the time-stamp or location does not appear in the normal ending. There's also the very specific key phrase of "Time will forget *they* ever existed", followed by "Time is not a construct we can control", then "And we cannot allow it to be theirs". Time, itself, is an entity in this context. Then circling back to a point you talk about, the single being Old "Really Old". If she is indeed talking to Atriox, he is 100% in a different timeline and communicating with The Harbinger.
@abyssal-labs
@abyssal-labs 2 года назад
The endless can control time and are the precursors, the endless might be the same race as the harbinger was I can’t wait for when they release the next bit of the story in a few months as they said this games a 10 year live service
@LazyFaux5656
@LazyFaux5656 2 года назад
I'm certain it'll be when Co-op is released. My reasoning: This ending scene is from Atriox's POV, eluding to a playable Atriox if you ask me.
@daltonhickman4855
@daltonhickman4855 2 года назад
The endless aren’t a species there a group
@unscinfinity3337
@unscinfinity3337 2 года назад
@@daltonhickman4855 facepalms through my fucking eyes
@Ty-wf6mg
@Ty-wf6mg 2 года назад
Few months? I’d temper your expectations for that. I’d imagine bare minimum a few years.
@LazyFaux5656
@LazyFaux5656 2 года назад
@@Ty-wf6mg I’d reckon my expectations are rather tame, as it’s not hard to see so much was cut from the game.
@thehelpingwrench1845
@thehelpingwrench1845 2 года назад
Those who can complete on legendary, truly are legends…..I struggled in normal sometimes
@R-SXX
@R-SXX 2 года назад
to be honest, its not that difficult if you watch out for the snipers; and make heavy use of every suit upgrade, especially shieldwall and grapple with emp expl. The most difficult thing for me was one of the mini-bosses that starts off with a wraith, because he is surrounded by snipers and its very open.
@thehelpingwrench1845
@thehelpingwrench1845 2 года назад
@@R-SXX I just suck haha but I was so dumb when it came to fighting escharum I forget there is a grapple 🤦🏻‍♂️ to move faster when he switched to the gravity hammer and then after halfway I started utilizing the shield but I’ll have to try again I guess on a harder level and actually utilize the equipment
@Norwoodg00ner
@Norwoodg00ner 2 года назад
You would straight up not last a second on halo 2 legendary.
@mrdonut1231
@mrdonut1231 2 года назад
I just cant understand how the endless can be a bigger threat than the friggin FLOOD. I get that they can survive the firing of halo but its the flood man come on
@plantlord1079
@plantlord1079 2 года назад
Hmm idk, the job of the halo array is to kill the food source of the flood, the endless considered such food, if the flood were to get their hands on an endless genes or DNA, who knows what the flood could do with their ability to survive the halo array. Also supposedly there is going to be story expansion expanding on the endless I think, so we gotta wait and see. They basically throw a massive wrench into the forerunners grand plan.
@EvilDuckOfDoom
@EvilDuckOfDoom 2 года назад
It seems to be heavily hinting at time control. The Endless may have had some level of control of time. The Flood were very bad but if the Endless had control of time it's understandable the Forerunners saw them as a bigger threat
@latrodectusmactans7592
@latrodectusmactans7592 2 года назад
The ending implies the Endless can control time. Which means they can erase history. All the accomplishments of any individual, any civilization can be completely obliterated. Destruction by the Flood is horrific, but at least you can leave a legacy. Destruction by the Endless offers no such mercy.
@SuperFAILMC
@SuperFAILMC 2 года назад
@@plantlord1079 flood infect simply by nervous systems meaning the endless don't have one, so they couldn't infect regardless
@plantlord1079
@plantlord1079 2 года назад
@@SuperFAILMC how can that be possible though, that means they're on the same level as sea sponges, the only life form with no nervous system.
@oceiros9199
@oceiros9199 2 года назад
Why is no one talking about the fact that Atriox looks completely different in this cutscene than he did when seen at any other point? His hair is black instead of grey, half his face is badly scarred, he doesn’t have his usual white face markings, and he doesn’t have the odst chest piece on his torso.
@andrewmeyer3599
@andrewmeyer3599 2 года назад
That's because Cortana blew up Zeta Halo right in his face. Like, actually
@kratos3500
@kratos3500 2 года назад
This is such a prelude to the primordial ugh 😩 this is so good and how the flood are both immortal beings and how their species as a whole are making a return
@darthball2723
@darthball2723 2 года назад
Like his og name "the timeless one" like bro it's the same thing just different phrasing
@kratos3500
@kratos3500 2 года назад
@@darthball2723 yeah I'm so hyped and the only question that lingers for me is how will the story go? Dlc story or a new game? That's the only thing that's goes through my mind right now
@thelordkindly
@thelordkindly 2 года назад
@@kratos3500 dlc
@kratos3500
@kratos3500 2 года назад
@@thelordkindly source?
@LazyFaux5656
@LazyFaux5656 2 года назад
@@kratos3500 343i advised they're supporting Infinite for the next decade, believe it's on the Halo Waypoint site. It'll be DLC story expansions.
@horrorpleb249
@horrorpleb249 2 года назад
Offensive Bias is likely active in the halo universe right now. 2 pieces of evidence support this. 1. In the harbinger battle the weapon mentions that something in the system is helping her. 2. After harbinger disappears the facility collapses and all of a sudden a portal opens to which the weapon responds with an uncertain voice about how the portal appeared, she more or less just said yes as a way to comfort John but clearly she didn't create the portal. An unknown presence helping her and then a random portal showing up in the room? Now you could say "Cortana likely helped her." Here's the problem with that, Cortana died after destroying a portion of the ring, all thats left are just data memories or as the weapon likes to call it "Just dust and echoes." which is a reference to CE's ending. Offensive Bias after the forerunner flood war was no were to be seen as far as we can tell, there is nothing about what happened to offensive bias after it so really anything could happen and its not impossible for offensive bias to pop up one day and commit the same act as mendicant, help master chief defeat a common foe. In halo 3 mendicant helps chief escape installation 08 as its about to be destroyed since it fires its array when its semi-built which causes the ring to collapse and all that to target the flood. Offensive bias in infinite is helping chief defeat the harbinger who seems to be of the endless race. Both Forerunner Ancilla's help chief on a halo ring, a bit poetic especially since in halo 3 Cortana is your A.I too which mendicant helps you and in infinite the weapon or Cortana 2.0 is your A.I to which offensive bias helps you and that she was tasked with locking down Cortana who went rogue in halo 5 which is practically reliving the battle of offensive and mendicant bias. Plenty of similarities. In the legendary ending Despondent pyre seems to be tasked with studying the endless and containing them and offensive bias being deployed to assist her efforts does confirm that his actions align with the chiefs 'To keep the endless contained' Offensive Bias is very like active on zeta halo.
@demonblade001
@demonblade001 2 года назад
I'm kinda frustrated that they used zeta halo to introduce a new enemy instead of using the flood. Its zeta halo. It's synonymous with humans and the flood.
@simonbirch8689
@simonbirch8689 2 года назад
Especially when the endless are compared or mentioned alongside the flood throughout the game. Kinda felt that they were gonna present them hand in hand but nope. Honestly felt a bit of a slap to the face for them to actively talk about the flood being on the ring and not have them actually present in the game.
@totallynotlogic9849
@totallynotlogic9849 2 года назад
@@simonbirch8689 they'll almost definitely be in either the next story add on or the one after the harbinger even lifts quotes directly from the grave mind during it "I will talk and you will listen" etc plus in the ending cutscene there is a green glow around the cylixes
@elifernandez331
@elifernandez331 2 года назад
@@simonbirch8689 I actually like that the flood wasn’t included, it’s good they talked about it hand in hand with the endless but they might drop more in the future, I wouldn’t doubt it
@TannerHinzeFitness
@TannerHinzeFitness 2 года назад
@@simonbirch8689 that might be to hint at the fact that they’re precursors since the flood are the corrupted remnants of them
@dougrasmussen151
@dougrasmussen151 2 года назад
Flood wouldn't work too well in this new formula. I, for one, am grateful there was no flood.
@san4th
@san4th 2 года назад
I think Atriox went back in the past, because when the weapon tries to track the signal she says "its really *old* ". It might be that Atriox was in the past the whole time and was awaiting something from the Harbinger to awaken the endless and maybe bring them to the future? The Harbinger also says "tell them sorry it took so long" so maybe it was all planned beforehand? Just my theories
@RC-zb8tl
@RC-zb8tl 2 года назад
This is another definition that came up for “Harbinger” on my search engine: One who or that which precedes and gives notice of the coming of some other person or thing; a forerunner; a precursor.
@Michaelthegrape7680
@Michaelthegrape7680 2 года назад
Basically this in a nutshell is: Forerunner AI that defeated the flood now guards a room full of a race called the endless
@shrimpy2688
@shrimpy2688 2 года назад
THEORY: Maybe the voice speaking is the iso didact. He speaks of the engineers. And as we all know, he used OB as a tool to stop MB and the flood. So I feel we can say with some level of certainty that he’s a forerunner. That’d explain his motivation to hold xalanyns/the endless on the ring. Perhaps iso fears that the xalanyns will try and release the flood. The precursors created them to survive the firing of the halo array and to repopulate/take hold of the galaxy after the mass extinctions that the array would cause. Im sure a race that was showed mercy by another incredibly powerful race would come to respect them and take the opportunity to bring them back if they could do so. Thus I would imagine that the xalanyns would know that the precursors are essentially the flood (the defective sand/stasis form that created the flood) and that the primordial is in control. Makes an awful lot of sense to me, but I don’t remember exactly the fate of the bornstellar didact, so perhaps I’m wrong.
@kalealcerafici8450
@kalealcerafici8450 2 года назад
A lot of people say that the Harbinger is one of the endless. Her cylix is in your base at the very beginning, and it’s not the same as the endless. Her disdain and cryptic quotes on injustice might point to the forerunners punishment of the precursors, even another disciple of the precursors who would contend with their claim to the mantle of responsibility.
@johnholland5419
@johnholland5419 2 года назад
The description of the mission to the silent auditorium describes the Harbinger's goal as "trying to free HER people" implying she's one of them
@kalealcerafici8450
@kalealcerafici8450 2 года назад
@@johnholland5419 fair point, I thought maybe she meant it in the sense of the elites technically being covenant’s people. Because it seems like skimmers are anatomically related to her, and what’s the big mystery and surprise of it all if they are just more of her.
@Koriaxe
@Koriaxe 2 года назад
I'm pretty sure Atriox went back in time somehow with the help of the Harbinger. This is why I believe that. 1. When the Harbinger was talking to someone at the end the single was " Old really old" Atriox time travel making the signal OLD. 2. After the fight with Harbinger Chief went into a "unknown portal" most likely caused by Harbinger death and the weapon said "when are we?" They were gone for 3 days like the Harbinger was minuplationing time when she teleports. Just my thoughts on this.
@TerraRyzer
@TerraRyzer 2 года назад
Valkorion is so powerful he migrated from the Star Wars universe to the Halo universe.
@spencerhoff7373
@spencerhoff7373 2 года назад
Just watched this in game... feel like atriox did travel through time. Afterall, chief was gone for 3 days in the final mission. I think the "key" mentioned is really a way to manipulate time. Would also make sense why they said "time is not a construct we can control." Im assuming he went back in time to awaken the endless... there is so many references to this, i feel like it has to be the meaning behind all of this
@kakamedsaft
@kakamedsaft 10 месяцев назад
" doesn't it scare you that the forerunners locked something away and threw away the key? " and yet in that scene Atriox has the key to release them, and the voice say that they cannot be allowed to control the construct of time, and this harbinger is not locked inside one of these tablet looking things so, its possible that she send him back in time before the key got lost or destroyed. I do think that there is some sense in that The Endless was supposed to receive the mantle but the Forerunners got angry and maybe a bit jelly. And since Offensive Bias was deployed around the flood wars its possible that they sought help or shelter with the forerunners, even if they were not a target for the flood, and didnt know it. Thanks for a awesome video, i look forward to the next game.
@monkaeyes3417
@monkaeyes3417 2 года назад
One thing I will say is that as soon as you start fucking with time in a franchise you know there are 2 outcomes. It’s either the start of an increasingly boring loop of content that never ends. Or, it’s the beginning of the grand finale. Or it’s a plot hole like the time turner in Harry Potter lol.
@philosopherofinfinite4558
@philosopherofinfinite4558 2 года назад
The rings he came out standing by perfectly resembled the actual rings because they matched the actual broken ring you where on and the others.
@joey7308
@joey7308 2 года назад
God I love this games story lol
@princeharris2660
@princeharris2660 2 года назад
Pretty sure only the Forerunner audio was from the period 97,368 BCE. It wouldn't make sense for Atriox to travel back in time to free the Endless because then he'd be surrounded by Forerunners who imprisoned the Endless and they'd immediately deal with him too. The Harbinger was probably talking to Atriox, who then went to finish freeing the Endless afterwards.
@leegofilms
@leegofilms 2 года назад
The Grand Edict mentions to maintain “their truth.” What if…what if the Endless were an alternate solution? They were beings capable of fighting the flood. And if word got out-if people knew-then the Forerunner’s legacy would’ve been that of fools.
@thibodeaux7059
@thibodeaux7059 2 года назад
If the endless ones can manipulate time, maybe atriox wants to use it to try and bring his world back? And with chief using a portal that manipulated time, maybe atriox went through one which would explain why the signal the harbinger was taking to was really old.
@my8thaccount236
@my8thaccount236 2 года назад
All I know is that these endless, whatever they are, truly have to be above and beyond dangerous to make THE FLOOD seem trivial. What could be worse than an indestructible, hyper-intelligent, intergalactic contagion?
@ronkerdonker3226
@ronkerdonker3226 2 года назад
Suicidal grunts
@my8thaccount236
@my8thaccount236 2 года назад
@@ronkerdonker3226 No. Jackal snipers that constantly reproduce by mitosis. Kill on, two replace them. Oh and the rifles are part of them. The ultimate bio weapon.
@ronkerdonker3226
@ronkerdonker3226 2 года назад
@@my8thaccount236 yeah that’s just a war crime and a half
@boltPoke
@boltPoke 2 года назад
Hunters
@shay1724
@shay1724 2 года назад
Just a theory, but you can tell that when the weapon is telling master chief that the signal she is tracking off of harbinger is really old, the signal could just be because she’s communicating with atriox through the past which is why it’s considered “old” it acts as a barren signal.
@somerandomdude7785
@somerandomdude7785 2 года назад
What if the Endless are actually the Precursors (the Flood before the Flood) & Harbinger is one of the last remaining Precursors?
@RC-Sev
@RC-Sev 2 года назад
Honestly got the feeling in the audio log where the Harbingers states soemthing like "you don't even know what "containment" means" (underneath one of the comm beacons I believe)
@VGeos_
@VGeos_ 2 года назад
The Harbinger is a Xalanyn.
@SuperFAILMC
@SuperFAILMC 2 года назад
@@VGeos_ precursor is not a race... it's a term "precursor means to come before something" so the Xalanyn could be the precursors....
@HollowDog5899
@HollowDog5899 2 года назад
The first thing I'm gonna do when halo full dive vr becomes a thing is teabag someone.
@anthonydigrazia1126
@anthonydigrazia1126 2 года назад
The name endless obviously indicates they are immune to or can manipulate time. Even when atriox inserts it, it ticks like a clocks gears
@marcd8576
@marcd8576 2 года назад
Man I hope they don't add time travelling stuff, halo's lore is already massive if you add time travel its going to become a mess
@JackzTheIcompetant
@JackzTheIcompetant 2 года назад
It is possible the endless are the precursors reborn and the forerunners stopped them because they knew it was them and put them in containment to keep the mantle
@atlanteanking1
@atlanteanking1 2 года назад
I was thinking the same thing
@Zyrxs
@Zyrxs 2 года назад
If by containment you mean indexing their species, it takes place after the firing of the Halo Array, by when forerunners had already given up on the mantle.
@Cheapshot512
@Cheapshot512 2 года назад
This is supported a little by the audio logs you get from scanning the Artifacts. The monitor admits that the forerunners greatest fear was losing their power.
@JackzTheIcompetant
@JackzTheIcompetant 2 года назад
Couldn’t think of the word
@akemidryzz9387
@akemidryzz9387 2 года назад
"the signal is old, really old" maybe it s a sort of confirmation that Atriox went back in time ? Maybe when Cortana "killed" him, she actually sent him in the past ?
@ABoxIsMyHome
@ABoxIsMyHome 2 года назад
Really old sounds more forrunner or precursor not just a year or so
@Thraggx
@Thraggx 2 года назад
Halo Infinite soundtrack has a nice mixture of old and new.
@Zupecki27
@Zupecki27 2 года назад
Weapon does say “The signal is old. Very old”, which could mean the communication was happening across time, where the receiver is some time in the past.
@Sky_Shiniga
@Sky_Shiniga 2 года назад
It really seems like time travel is being introduced into the Halo universe. Im pretty confident Atriox and the key he had were sent back in time by the Harbinger, also once you see the end credit scene along with the date it makes sense that the Harbinger was talking to Atriox while he was in the past awakening the Endless. I imagine the next game will have some time travel shenanigans, if it does I just hope 343 do the story right and doesn’t do some muddled and crazy time travel plot.
@unscinfinity3337
@unscinfinity3337 2 года назад
i think atriox's real motivation is to save his homeworld from cortana plus time travel can allow halo 5 to be retconned maybe banished may attack unsc during halo 5 before cortana went banana
@shar8528
@shar8528 2 года назад
Any time that time travel is involved it will get messy. It's so hard to keep anything straight when you're mucking about with time... Cause after all time is not a line it is a circle. That is why clocks are round! MJ Caboose.
@blitzwolfer4154
@blitzwolfer4154 2 года назад
Why would there be time travel though? The Harbinger of Truth literally said, "I'm sorry it took so long", which indicates that they have been waiting. If this was a case of time travel then that means the Endless wouldn't have to wait that long after being imprisoned so your deduction/theory doesn't line up. This also implies that the audio is a past voicing over the scene that is in the present, which means no time travel. However, Time Manipulation is a different concept than time travel, as it's not necessarily going back in time but changing time if that makes sense.
@xyreniaofcthrayn1195
@xyreniaofcthrayn1195 2 года назад
Slip space can deposit you anywhere in time and space if containment is breached humanity's slipspace is almost in capable of this but it still will desist you anywhere at the intended point weeks later,the covenants slipspace engine is more presice, in it would deposit you days instead of weeks and forerunner slipspace drives, a matter of hours or minutes, precursors transcended the need for slipspace as they are implied to have a dragon age elder elven highway (just look in the dragon age wiki under the inquisition dlc trespasser for better context) , that would seem to take hours or days but would be instantaneous.
@ZeroGravity141
@ZeroGravity141 2 года назад
@@unscinfinity3337 The reason why I don’t like the time travel plot is because there’s to many plot holes. Because you could so why didn’t Atriox just go back at the beginning of The Covenant and warn his fellow brutes or even kill the prophets. Even worse you could even take it as far as bring old characters back from the dead.
@SoulHorizon1313
@SoulHorizon1313 2 года назад
0:58 that music and shot is so incredible
@smashcab8379
@smashcab8379 2 года назад
I feel like there’s a connection between the 2 times Chief used the teleported and what Weapon said after, as well as the endless and their implied control of time. They cannot be killed by rings, so they don’t exist in the physical world. It’s safe to assume they’re AI then. Weapon mentions a data cluster the first time they teleport, implying the teleportation system works digitally. To top it off, the second time they teleport, it apparently happened over 3-4 days. Time was skipped somehow
@lucasduggan6037
@lucasduggan6037 2 года назад
I agree. I think atriox allied with the harbinger in an attempt to find out how or what controls times. That would allow him to become an unstoppable force.
@justinclark6331
@justinclark6331 2 года назад
I'm throwing it out there, BCE = Before Combat Evolved
@cleggonator
@cleggonator 2 года назад
One thing you left out is that at the end of infinite, the weapon mentions that you both had been gone for several days since you went in to fight the harbinger even though it had only felt like minutes. I wonder if that has to do with the time manipulation that you mentioned as well.
@MrMac1138
@MrMac1138 2 года назад
Yeah. If the Forerunners cannot control time, how did that portal send him into the future? That could imply the Endless did it. There’s a lot more here and I wonder if Atriox and the Harbinger may not even know the true power of the Endless.
@nepspartan-7597
@nepspartan-7597 2 года назад
@@MrMac1138 the only form of time control Forerunners seemed to master (that we know of) is small pockets where people within can be advanced millions of years ahead of the time of the rest of the nearby area or frozen in a single moment (such as the Primordial's prison)
@dummyquiccc9695
@dummyquiccc9695 2 года назад
They constantly say that this ring is different than the others. And the fact that the weapon (aka new Cortana) and chief traveled three days into the future then we have reason to believe the ring has some kind of time bending/ time traveling effect. I believe that Atriox was sent back in time and he was there almost 100,000 years ago. Also: Despondent Pyre says that time isn’t something they can control, maybe that means they were trying to but their time jumps were at random. That would explain why atriox would have randomly been sent back.
@SpartanDusk
@SpartanDusk 2 года назад
I couldve sworn it said the time was from like 100K BC, and if you look at Atriox's hand, its not robotic, its his flesh and blood. What I thought when I saw the legendary ending was Atriox was a clone or like Master Chief being the culmination of 1000s of years of prediction by the Librarian but to the "Endless" or what I assume they are, the precorsors, but Ill settle for clone, since for some reason, he knew about the endless ones when nobody did, like Cortana said, there are worse things than the flood in Zeta Halo, so how did Atriox knew? How did he know to let out the Harbinger and made sure the Banished listened to her? I still think Atriox is dead, which makes sense, he "killed" Master Chief, so Cortana kills him. TLDR: I still think Atriox is dead and the Brute we saw was the one we saw in nearly 100 000 BC is the original Atriox while our dead one was a clone.
@raybesgaming9686
@raybesgaming9686 2 года назад
Nice little theory. But idk about bringing cloning into all this. Seems ig somewhat cheap
@SpartanDusk
@SpartanDusk 2 года назад
@@raybesgaming9686 Could be he cryoslept for those few milenia, still wonder how he knew about the Harbinger and the Endless when literally nobody knew about it in the game besides Cortana and the monitor of Zeta Halo
@SpartanDusk
@SpartanDusk 2 года назад
@@wesb337 Just giving my 2 cents considering we are seeing Atriox nearly 100 000 BCE in the past
@RoachCatJr
@RoachCatJr 2 года назад
@@wesb337 true but them showing Atriox not having a robotic hand means something.
@nicholascecere4335
@nicholascecere4335 2 года назад
i have theory atriox wants the endless to do some time stuff and help bring his home planet back or something
@derek4666
@derek4666 2 года назад
The harbinger was talking to someone saying you have what you need sorry it took so long tell them I’m sorry” and it was to someone very very old from a long time ago I think this may be mendicant and we get a mendicant/atriox vs chief/offensive
@elifernandez331
@elifernandez331 2 года назад
I doubt chief and offensive because of the weapon, but that’d be cool !
@19972zach
@19972zach 2 года назад
Mendicant helped the chief in halo 2 and 3. He wouldn’t help atriox against the chief nor humanity
@derek4666
@derek4666 2 года назад
@@19972zach hm so is there any bad old ais if. Not then maybe just the precursors?
@19972zach
@19972zach 2 года назад
@@derek4666 nothing forerunner no. I’m thinking precursors as well maybe even the primordial itself. Maybe they had AIs
@SuperFAILMC
@SuperFAILMC 2 года назад
​@@derek4666 Offensive bias is alive but he's scattered on so many locations, he was on high charity, he was on the ark, whos to say he wasn't on zeta halo, in a cutscene the Grand edict, says " offensive bias is deployed to help you " in the subtitles he's talking the the monitor of zeta halo, the weapon even says "somethings pushing back" which is the same thing that cortana said when she interacted with offensive in halo 2
@MagnanimousEntropy
@MagnanimousEntropy 2 года назад
Whatever the 'Endless' are, 'time' seems to be an ability that they can manipulate and exist outside of. If they can not be killed by Halo's pulse then perhaps it is because of this ability. Perhaps what Cortana and Atriox were after was the same thing the Forerunners were trying to learn from the Endless, the power to control and move though time - so that they may change the past.
@jackroberts6114
@jackroberts6114 2 года назад
Can I just state the endless can’t be precursors due to them being wiped out before the flood came into existence the campaign had me thinking the endless one was the primordial at first. However it is a good theory until you get into the eu
@unscinfinity3337
@unscinfinity3337 2 года назад
you really think forerunners could wipe out multi universe travelling species bruh that too millions of years before they were at the level of technology at forerunner flood war
@reednichols2983
@reednichols2983 2 года назад
Not all precursors were killed. A lot of them went into Stasis Sleep, others were turned to dust (now the flood) and I’m assuming some of them were victims of the Forerunners scientific antics.
@blitzwolfer4154
@blitzwolfer4154 2 года назад
I hope you realize that the Precursors are basically Tier 4 civilizations on the Kardeshev scale... A civilization that spans over several galaxies or perhaps as far as galaxy cluster(s). They may have been mostly wiped out in the Milky Way galaxy but in no way as a whole wiped out... In fact, even the Forerunners are still alive, the remaining just left the galaxy if I remember correctly before or after the Halo rings fired.
@19972zach
@19972zach 2 года назад
The precursors couldn’t really die. They turn into a dust that is supposed to recreate them. However the dust got corrupted and they turned into the flood. It’s highly possible the precursors who still had some sanity went to the forerunners to help with the corruption so the forerunners imprisoned them so the truth of how the forerunners got the mantle of responsibility would be revealed
@SuperFAILMC
@SuperFAILMC 2 года назад
@@19972zach that's an interesting story, precursors is not a species name.
@mathiasadderley2988
@mathiasadderley2988 2 года назад
Can we talk about halo mini time travel where chief went 3 days into the future
@charleswoodward5026
@charleswoodward5026 2 года назад
Now are the Endless actually Precursors or a species that were created by the Precursors like the Forerunners and existed during the same time.
@raybesgaming9686
@raybesgaming9686 2 года назад
That’s what I think. Because the forerunners hated the fact that they weren’t given the Mantel. So maybe the endless wanted to stop the forerunners?
@weybye91
@weybye91 2 года назад
then they were stupid enough to create something far worse than the flood
@LazyFaux5656
@LazyFaux5656 2 года назад
@@weybye91 The Precursors are the Flood..
@weybye91
@weybye91 2 года назад
@@LazyFaux5656 wasn't it another race?
@LazyFaux5656
@LazyFaux5656 2 года назад
@@weybye91 the precursors turned themselves into a dust when the forerunners began their genocide, they did so in hopes of reforming at a later time. During which, it became corrupted and turned into the Flood.
@mspionage1743
@mspionage1743 2 года назад
Zeta Halo is the ring that held the prisoner from the book trilogy as well. The prisoner was indeed a Precursor.
@imagoloop4819
@imagoloop4819 2 года назад
It was a great game, but there are massive plot holes like what happened to Spartan Locke and captain lasky? We’re the banished aware of the palace of pain? I just wish we got more answers rather than just more questions
@cmibt
@cmibt 2 года назад
Yeah this is the worst part. I am sorely disappointed that they decided to cater for newer players more than older ones, because the older players now are sitting here after ending on Halo 5 like "that's it? I learn about Cortana through memories? Sick "
@victime4360
@victime4360 2 года назад
thats not a plot hole, its an unexplained thing
@merlindev1085
@merlindev1085 2 года назад
It's not a plot hole, plus the lasky and Locke ones are answered in the audio logs
@darmansbar7900
@darmansbar7900 2 года назад
It's said in a audio log that Locke is on a mission as part of another campaign, Lasky is alive but most likely is on Zeta Halo and we have to find him in the next game
@joehernandez2506
@joehernandez2506 2 года назад
Campaign isn't over there is planned dlc campaign im pretty sure
@stevenjacobo7853
@stevenjacobo7853 2 года назад
I’m surprised you left out the part when chief goes through the portal and says, “where are we?” Then Cortana responds, “I think a better question is when are we?” Plus those ancient rings look like time portals. Idk just seems pretty obvious that time travel is the secret of that halo
@stevenjacobo7853
@stevenjacobo7853 2 года назад
Also, who wants to bet that chief will try to use the time portals to save Cortana? Lol
@tomboi123live
@tomboi123live 2 года назад
@@stevenjacobo7853 that’s exactly what I’ve been thinking that it’ll progress and he’ll use this time manipulation to go back and save her before she turns etc
@adamwieser
@adamwieser 2 года назад
Cortana had access to the domain Precursors created the domain and meant to pass it to humanity Forerunners stole the domain Cortana knew about the endless to Despondant Pyre's dismay because of the domain and the precursor's knowledge being passed down to her. The best theory is that the endless ARE the precursors. The primordial, a precursor, essentially mutated into the flood but that doesn't mean they all did. If anything it reinforces that precursors cannot be killed just like the endless and Grand Edict says. Honestly all of these names are just over the top. Halo Infinite, Infinity, Eternity (Infinity's sister ship that will probably come in down the line), Forerunners, Precursors, Endless, Primordial, etc
@evankamminga4321
@evankamminga4321 2 года назад
The Primordial was the last precursor after the forerunners butchered them so I don't think it can be them.
@shugo5130
@shugo5130 2 года назад
This theory doesn’t work for many reasons, the precursors were essentially eradicated by the forerunner eons before, the monitor clearly states that they believe that the forerunners are there to help, the precursors would know for a fact that they are not there to help since they’ve been hunted by the forerunners before. Lastly while the domain is a precursor construct, and the halos firing heavily damaged it, and nearly destroyed it, it is not immune to the effects of the halo like the endless are suggested to be.
@SuperFAILMC
@SuperFAILMC 2 года назад
@@shugo5130 Think about it, this was talking about the time the ring was fired. a few thousand years actually Whos to say the Precursors (not a species name it's a title) so the xayalnyn could be the precursors before mutation
@Sea-Bass
@Sea-Bass 2 года назад
I didn’t think they could fire all the rings after destroying the Arc in Halo 3. And each ring only has a certain distance. This is all getting too confusing.
@Quetzalcoatlus100
@Quetzalcoatlus100 2 года назад
Can you imagine the flood infecting beings with time warping abilities? Assuming the endless aren't precursor related. If they are, the truth could be that they like the flood are precursors and these endless are simply an alternative form the precursors took instead of grinding themselves into dust to spite the galaxy of life.
@nemesis2445
@nemesis2445 2 года назад
If the endless can control time, then Atriox may want their help to bring his home planet back. it also makes sense why the forerunners would want them imprisoned. if they control time, then anything that threatens them, such as firing the rings; they would simply nullify it. they may already employ it to prevent the flood from taking their home but that would obviously be much more limited in scope than the galaxy wide action of firing the rings.
@RylisPro
@RylisPro 2 года назад
Why does Atriox look much younger at the end of the cutscene? He has black hair instead of aging white when compared to the beginning of the game
@SuperFAILMC
@SuperFAILMC 2 года назад
did you see the time frame? he's 97 thousand years before HALO Combat evolved XD
@Mr.Green918
@Mr.Green918 2 года назад
And that’s why the game is called Halo “Infinite”!!!
@cmibt
@cmibt 2 года назад
No Arbiter, No Spirit of Fire, no other spartan 2 contact, no Halsey plot explaining, just banished bullshit with a little bit of explaining how we fixed the Cortana problem from memories. At least the game was beautiful, but the writers need to stop pushing the envelope
@rinnarbetta866
@rinnarbetta866 2 года назад
As I remember Spirit of Fire with Red team remained on the Ark, we are on Zeta Halo, that's why we didn't get any info about them
@Frostmear
@Frostmear 2 года назад
Tell me you haven’t played the game without telling me you haven’t played the game
@nightbandit1260
@nightbandit1260 2 года назад
It sounds like you should have tempered your expectations lol.
@Stormbreaker1173
@Stormbreaker1173 2 года назад
Honestly why did you expect any of that stuff we went into this knowing it was a soft reboot. All those characters and plots can easily be introduced when they are ready this game had to tell a great self contained story and it did a great job of that
@TheLastDrPhil
@TheLastDrPhil 2 года назад
I'm sort of new to halo so I don't really know much about the halo lore but this really helped
@damo408
@damo408 2 года назад
The endless are immortal. And the halo rings are a massive reverse time lock. The rings rapidly age all sentient life a billion years in 1 second. The endless do not age therefore the rings have no affect on them.
@Obama_Hunter
@Obama_Hunter 2 года назад
I remember beating the game on Heroic on day 1 and not understanding the scene and then a few days later beating it on Legendary and still not understanding it with audio
@Deno8818
@Deno8818 2 года назад
I feel like the endless are synthetic in nature since halo only destroys organic material and not machines.
@mightytaco123
@mightytaco123 2 года назад
What if the endless are just regular dudes that are only immune to the halos. Like they were just chillin one day watching “house” and then the forerunner fired the halo and got salty because the endless didn’t die and we’re still just chillin watching a TV
@veryelaborate5689
@veryelaborate5689 2 года назад
Offensive Bias was probably the AI that helped cortana at the end of the campaign. And we're definitely getting some sort of time travel
@ASimpleMangoMan
@ASimpleMangoMan 2 года назад
My theory is that the Harbinger probably promised Atriox that his home world could either be rebuilt or brought back in some way.
@zylojacalne1925
@zylojacalne1925 2 года назад
Regarding possible time travel/time control reference….has anyone mentioned that the Endless cylixes kinda move like a clock?
@josejoaquinsalazarservin6067
@josejoaquinsalazarservin6067 2 года назад
I am the only one who sees the similarity between the history of the forerruner and humanity? Born of the stars he was like the master chief, the hero of his people an example made a friendship with an enemy (chacas and the inquisitor respectively) both civilizations created powerful IAs both turned against him and created a clone to stop them I am fascinated by the similarity that exists
@thecapone45
@thecapone45 11 месяцев назад
7:05, nice little easter egg there. 77 years... Since the Halo developer team loves the number 7!
@alexz1341
@alexz1341 2 года назад
Man if we get into time travel shit there’s hope to see noble team survive
@christianyaerger1751
@christianyaerger1751 2 года назад
Besides their ability to manipulate time, the Endless cannot be killed by the Halos. If the Flood ever infect them, it's Game Over. That's what makes them so dangerous. Morevoer, I think "The Truth" Harbinger and Grand Edict both refer to is history itself; imprisoning the Endless prevents them from manipulating history, preserving the Forerunner's prominence.
@christianyaerger1751
@christianyaerger1751 2 года назад
@TheSovietOnion l Then there's obviously some discrepancy. As living, breathing creatures, I'd think the Endless would have a nervous system -- unless it's revealed they're some some of technological organisms, eg grey goo that has taken an animal-like form.
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