Ham Radio Local Area Network via New Packet Radio

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This is an introduction video to many cool things to come. This will be the first in a playlist all about the new packet radio, NPR-70 v05 Modem by F4HDK. The link to buy the base model, or build your own can be found here:
Build it:
hackaday.io/project/164092-np...
Buy it:
elekitsorparts.com/product/np...
The model in my video can be found here:
www.tindie.com/products/kuek/...
Check out the Flag and Torch Society:
www.flagandtorchsociety.com/
We will be doing lots of cool things with this device. First in this video we talk about the general use case and give an introduction. Next we will prep a windows operating system to work as a master and client.
After that we'll start accessing resources over the 70cm amateur radio band via the NPR modem. We will build an amateur radio IP network.
0:00 Intro
1:25 Flag and Torch Society
2:45 How it Works
4:25 Whats coming
5:30 The Base NPR
8:45 NPR-H 2.0
14:20 Video Summary
14:45 The Speed
16:00 What's Next
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Комментарии : 67

@EgoIsFlawed Год назад

I am very happy to see this line of thinking explored old elmers love their analog, but this is far more useful.

@mossup- Год назад

My friend just posted me a link to this video, was excellent, we managed to get 6800 baud on 2m over A 7mile range while everyone else was still using 1200 baud. but we could never get 9600 to work on 70cms, the NPR blows that out of the water and I'm interested to see the outcome of your experiments with it, thankyou 😄

@ModernHam Год назад

Glad to hear someone else toying around with packet! Lots of cool stuff coming up.

@RookieLock Год назад

Thats exciting ! Something that always interested me as well.. Loooking forward to seeing more!

@DanielWiley Год назад

Good to see ya pick back up on this project.

@patrickm9953 Год назад

Wow amazing. Thanks for doing the review, I'll check your channel regularly.

@GeorgeAdams Год назад

This is going to be a fun series!

@theodoreboyer2275 Год назад

Excellent work as always

@willross6468 Год назад

Cool video, thanks for posting on the odd sea, too

@goodfriend6428 Год назад

WONDERFUL WORK! Thank you!

@perkyjerky7731 Год назад

Great video Billy, I'm looking forward to trying this out with you in the future! - WQ2Y

@aaronlindemann2669 Год назад

Just found your channel, You got my sub! Thanks!

@googlemustdie Год назад

I fell in love with HAM radio when building one of the first. tcp/ip stacks for the Macintosh OS back I. The early 90's when packet radio Had the only freely available working source code. It wasn't until I got my license 2 years ago (FINALLY!!) and found out that packet radio was all but dead and it was being used for idiotically simple stuff like winlink and none of the HAM people I found knew anything about computer networks. I am so happy to see your series!! Thank you!!

@tomad4051 Год назад

INTERESTING ⚡️💡⚡️

@dantv23 Год назад

...liked and subbed from KK6VDR Thousand Oaks, Cali!

@TheKrillWillRule Год назад

....and I just subscribed.

@mr.miniaturesmodels8465 Год назад

This was clear as mud but I’m looking forward to future videos to demonstrate what was overviewed here…

@WX4CB Год назад

you've been able to do that for years.... AX25 has been able to do that for God knows how long... now was it worth screwing around with it? not for web pages but we used it for linking packet nodes and bbs's with things like ROSE and bpq etc worked great. this does seem a better way of doing it, but it's nothing new :D

@ModernHam Год назад

IP over radio is by no means new, but the things were about to do with it will be due to the speed being about x50 and the ping being about 1/8th without the AX25 overhead.

@WX4CB Год назад

@@ModernHam that's what I was saying... it's nothing new, but it does look interesting and i look forward to seeing the results.

@c172jeff 6 месяцев назад

Great video. I think the Symbol rate in the USA was increased recently

@ModernHam 6 месяцев назад

It has on the HF bands! Good news all around.

@thuff3207 Год назад

I hope you get this working in the area at the limited bandwidth of our rules. This is faster than packet I beleave can connect to an arden system. Ps ARDEN runs in the bands without symbol rate limitations so they definately have more speed. Good luck and I will be watching.

@ModernHam Год назад

I didn't know that. I wish we could do without a limit in the lower bands as well.

@gmanshackshack6822 Год назад

This might be good on the under used 1.25m band.

@kf5hcr176 Год назад

Worthwhile challenge you've embarked upon. It will give unexpected benefits. Thank you for your presentation. Is there any reason it can't be used on VHF or HF? 73

@ModernHam Год назад

Not that I know of. May get in touch with the maker sometime and ask about it. Or see if tweaks can be done.

@va7dgp Год назад

I need to buy the Btech Amp. I have NPR and it's connected to my Mikrotik Hap which is connected. Hills and mountains don't to well unless you have that amp

@justanoldcowboy8326 Год назад

So it all stopped when I gave up on packet radio? I was using Linux and a gateway in the 90s. The locals were happy when I turned it all off long ago. I'd like to try this to connect the Raspberry Pi in a vehicle to the laptop/joysticks on the Linux ground station to replace the wifi that replaced the RC gear. How small can it be made?

@Aintyourbuddy_guy 9 месяцев назад

Is it was fast as dial up? I thought of this just out of the blue, because dial up Internet was done through sound over phone lines.. So why can't we use Ham radios or short wave or whatever, to do the same thing? Is that what this is? Is that possible? Star Link is another way too

@A_scope Год назад

Linux user along for the ride. Happy to see Gerber's available, and open source. Now you say it can tx a website... This is very interesting, I would like to locally enc markdown and send. Would this be capable of this?

@ModernHam Год назад

It's all over IP, so yeah basically. I'm going to be doing a lot of windows use to make sure its the most accessible to follow. But I will get into linux too, especially for the server

@Chuck1855 Год назад

I use packet radio and I am interested in the new packet.

@johnkreno2488 Год назад

I'm up near Elizabethtown. I picked up a few of these units. Would be interesting to build some sort of link across the state.

@ModernHam Год назад

I need to get an amplifier and some more height before I can get out that far. Maybe if we had a station between us. Which model did you get, and how are you getting along?

@johnkreno2488 Год назад

@@ModernHam I picked up 2 of the 7 Watt units. So I'm waiting for those to come in.

@Siskiyous6 Год назад

Essentially aHAM Wide Area Network depending on the (I will use this term) baud rate

@DanKuches 4 месяца назад

I'm glad I found your channel. Im a techie and understand tech, but I am not a pro or expert. Your delivery and explanations are extremely clear and concise, which is helping me to understand that I can create a network over ham! KE8KES. Funny note... I had dial-up and still remember the days of dialing in, getting a cup of coffee, and then checking my email just about when my coffee was finished 😂. Im going to be going through your videos and working to get up and running with the digital networking. Thanks!

@Zachsnotboard 7 месяцев назад

there has to be people using this for malicious purposes, crazy stuff. Windows does really does reach out a lot, noticed when messing with firewalls

@DonzLockz Год назад

Sounds very interesting. Looking forward to seeing it action.👍 I used to use dual 56k dial up to download torrents faster (phone and fax line). Lol, I was on fire!🔥🔥😆

@WadeAbout Год назад

1MA has a couple

@DonzLockz Год назад

@@WadeAbout has he got them working Wade?

@ModernHam Год назад

Our wiring was so bad we'd it at around 24k. Was awful.

@SharpsBox 3 месяца назад

This need to be downsized for smaller devices. It could be helpful for conflict zones.

@corradoQC Год назад

The first thing that came to my mind is why should someone use this over AREDN ? I did a little research and I believe you could use this when line of site isn't achievable. The hardware is cheaper and more readily available for AREDN and throughput are going to be way better. The symbol rate limitation has to go. Rules that prohibit encryption are also holding us back. I can build encrypted PTP links using unlicensed spectrum all day long. I'm having to worry that something on my OS or using an specific Application on my OS might send something encrypted. The norm is encrypted communication by default now, we don't have the control over every packet that goes through the IP interface. As an example, If you use SMBv3 built in protocol for a file transfer over the ham bands you might get in serious trouble.

@ModernHam Год назад

I definitely agree. It's going to be difficult maintaining this in this age.

@MetalAcitistJim Год назад

Good idea for bypassing ISP?

@johnwest7993 Год назад

I'm curious how it generates the call-signs of all those who are using the network.

@ModernHam Год назад

It's within the protocol itself to ID every 10 minutes. That's all I know.

@charlierumsfeld6626 Год назад

DMR amp??

@danielktdoranie Год назад

I am interested in this

@Aintyourbuddy_guy 9 месяцев назад

I know you can stream live Internet radio with like 32kbps

@DP-ym4dg Год назад

Why can't you use encryption?

@Siskiyous6 Год назад

FCC regulations

@kd5inm Год назад

In the USA amateur radio has to be in the open and cannot have a hidden message.

@rifleshooterchannel208 Год назад

I’ll encrypt anything I please. The Constitution gives me the right to be free from unreasonable search and seizure 🤷🏿‍♂️

@Robbie-sk6vc 3 месяца назад

@@rifleshooterchannel208Search and seizure, and FCC rules, are two different things! Sounds like you need a lesson in federal rules, and the law.

@rifleshooterchannel208 3 месяца назад

@@Robbie-sk6vc The Constitution is the supreme law of the land. My First Amendment Right to Free Speech means my speech can be conveyed any way I please.

@tittiger 3 дня назад

You seem to conflate the idea of military and a standing army. What you refer to the military is in violation of article 1 section 8 which limits funding of a standing army to 2 years. Read the Constitution specifically the second amendment and it clearly states that the malicious necessary if we wish to remain free. Article 1 section 8 also says that it is the duty of the militia no one else to deal with insurrection and to execute the laws of the union. That was article One section 8 paragraph 14.

@elementbr Год назад

Remove the click to sub and bell animation.

@bradyjunk1 Год назад

Interesting topic, but please outline your topic before hitting record. Good content, but presentation needs more organization.

@kylew4678 Год назад

What. I thought we were limited to 1200 baud on 2 meters and 9600 baud on 70cm - when did that change?

@ModernHam Год назад

56,000 baud on 70cm. Although I'm not sure when this took effect.

@kylew4678 Год назад

@@ModernHam about 15 years ago I was doing some experimenting with Doodle Labs OFDM boards on 70cm. I was able to do megabit speeds from over a mile away. There’s an article about it in TAPR. Of course that was a different time and what I was doing was largely frowned upon. If I still have those doodle labs boards I’ll give them to you. I have a foot in two worlds… I enjoy just talking, 1200 baud packet, you know, The old stuff. But I also enjoy experimenting with the new stuff. I find a lot of value I. Both worlds. The issue is that it gets stressful because I don’t 100% fit in with either group which is why I kind of left the hobby. Anyway. I will look for those boards.

@kd5inm Год назад

@@kylew4678 things have changed since back in those days, you should come back and get on the air!