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Hammer Technique - Stop Killing Your Shoulder! 

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In this video I address something rarely talked about in blacksmithing which is especially important for beginners but also very important even for seasoned veterans of the craft, and that is basic hammer technique.
Today I cover how I hold a hammer, the basic hammer stroke, how to get a great deal of power with very little effort, and most importantly, how bad technique can and will INJURE YOU! Learn what causes most shoulder injuries and ends blacksmithing careers and how not to do it.
Also, we'll talk about selecting the right size hammer. So follow along and hopefully I won't bore you to death.
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@magnuspitruzelli
@magnuspitruzelli 2 года назад
I've been smithing for a few years and I learned this from the friend who introduced me to being a blacksmith/bladesmith. Thank you for your time and info.
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 2 года назад
You are very welcome!
@jimhills1265
@jimhills1265 6 лет назад
How to heat steel, how to draw steel, how to drift a hole, how to, how to.... Thank you, for the love of all that is holy--- HOW TO USE THE DAMN HAMMER CORRECTLY! Everyone is always so concerned with the work, no one looks at the tool! Well done, Brother.
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 6 лет назад
Thanks, man. I try!
@mcrekkr
@mcrekkr 4 года назад
I came here from your video being linked on a thread on tennis elbow. I subbed as soon as I saw the glasses. I listened to this while I was working and now I'm watching this on my break. I'm a fitter and turner by trade and an archer on my days off so my elbows are what makes me money and makes me happy so efficiency of motion is really important to me. I was wanting to try my hand at blacksmithing so coming across this video is awesome. Thank you kindly and hello from New Zealand.
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 4 года назад
I appreciate the kind words, thank you!
@gabesantoriello8402
@gabesantoriello8402 4 года назад
You're not a toolbag! Dude very informative thank you for all of that information. Very beginner into forging and want to have the right technique from the get-go
@hotspur4237
@hotspur4237 5 лет назад
I've just started watching blacksmithing videos recently.I've seen a number of blacksmiths using poor technique. They may talk about safety and using PPE, but none have addressed how to swing a hammer. I was looking for a technique video because I knew there had to be a better way. Scored on this my first pick. Great presentation. I liked when you were hitting the wood and knocking it out of your grip. I don't think you realized but you made your point just then. You weren't swinging hard, but the power of the hammer surprised you.If not intentional, it was still brilliant. Thanks.
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 5 лет назад
Thanks for watching, I'm glad you liked it!
@robthecrazyronin347
@robthecrazyronin347 7 лет назад
I like this guy. Direct, funny, no B.S. Mjolnir proudly displayed. Cool tips on techniques. Thanks a bunch.
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 7 лет назад
My pleasure, thanks for watching!
@glassroboto
@glassroboto 6 лет назад
Excellent hammer technique sir! I began hammering "the hard way" a few months ago, and after long sessions, I noticed my technique began naturally becoming more like yours here to conserve energy but still deliver force. After seeing this video it makes so much sense, I just tried out this completed swing a few times and it feels excellent, much more fluid, akin to "snapping a punch" vs "clenching a fist and throwing with your shoulder." I never even thought to allow the hammer to continue it's rotation all the way up. Thanks a lot man!!
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 6 лет назад
I'm happy you like it!
@SkillCult
@SkillCult 5 лет назад
A viewer of mine sent me here. It's always great to run into someone on youtube with significant insight into their subject matter. As a very occasional blacksmith, I can probably really put some of this to use. One of my viewers is always flicking me crap for seeing my thumb on the back of a hammer or hatchet handle lol. I have some insight into psychology and physics of handled tool use stemming from trying to explain axe use to people, which can be useful in trying to communicate this stuff. There are two mistakes that go hand in hand so to speak. One is the death grip as you and I both put it, or white knuckling it. And the other is the false notion that to do work with the tool, you have to push it through the work and that is where the power comes from. Obviously without the death grip, you can't push the tool into the work, so trying to push the hammer leads to the death grip. Any approach like this is inefficient and highly stressful to the user, v.s. your lighter grip with emphasis on the generation of head speed. The energy that does the work comes from momentum, not pushing the tool into the work after it hits. Momentum is the product of mass and speed. if the tool is heavier at a given speed, it will have more embodied energy. Given any one hammer though, the weight cannot be changed, so we are left with changing the speed, and that is where useful momentum comes from. While it is certainly possible to add energy to the process as the hammer strikes, it is absurdly inefficient. This is easily demonstrated by grabbing a hammer or axe, setting it on the work and trying to push the head into the work from the end of that long handle. That is the opposite of mechanical advantage. It is mechanical disadvantage actually, and if we are pushing rather than swinging, we could probably do more work by just grabbing onto the head and pushing on it directly. A long handle only works to advantage if we use it in a way that takes advantage of it's potential use to increase momentum, which, again, is about increasing speed with any fixed wight of tool. The mechanical advantage of a long handled tool revolves, literally, around pivot points. When a body interfaces with the tool, there are multiple pivot points at work, so it becomes very complicated. For instance the shoulder, elbow, wrist and waist can all be pivot points. The mechanics are something equivalent to the hub and spoke of a wheel. If we turn the hub of a wheel, it turns only a little, but in the same span of time, the outside of the wheel turns a lot and travels much faster. If a pivot point, like the wrist, is the hub of the wheel and the hammer head is the rim of the wheel, we can easily create a high momentum with a small movement of the wrist. In your technique, you already have the pivot point of the the shoulder accelerating the hammer head gradually and easily to a fairly high momentum, so when you add the wrist snap, you are creating a very high speed/momentum with very little effort. The overall result is high power and high efficiency with minimal handle shock. Not only is the death grip not necessary, a delicate grip is basically required for the highest efficiency. Some way is needed to impress on people that it's all about momentum, and not what people think of as power use of a tool. Power added after the tool strikes is a path to injury and fatigue, and I think also often to broken handles. The way to get that momentum with any given tool is by increasing speed and the goal should ultimately be to create that speed with low effort. Also, that every blow does not have to be the hardest blow possible with that tool. There is a sweet zone where we get plenty of work done, but the work is sustainable. I should do a video on that stuff. If I do, I'll send people your way for sure! I haven't watched any of your other stuff yet, but it's plain to see you have something of substance to offer. Cheers.
@gregkral4467
@gregkral4467 7 лет назад
Thanks a lot for this video. Beginner myself, would like to be able to keep going as long as possible, this will help.
@CorrieBergeron
@CorrieBergeron 7 лет назад
Brilliant. Basic physics. Another newbie error - holding the elbow out to the side. Did that myself in a beginner jewelry-making class years ago - the wife of the instructor corrected me.
@jimwinchester1305
@jimwinchester1305 7 лет назад
I'm new to Blacksmithing and Metal Work. Great information and well demonstrated. I'll save this as a reference.
@casper1240
@casper1240 5 лет назад
Never teach you this at Blacksmithing classes very informative thanks
@whildknight
@whildknight 7 лет назад
Thanks for the advice wolf's den forge I'm going to be starting the journey of blacksmithing. I am a welder by trade been under the hood for over 25 years. I now want to start banging steel. I plan on building a lot of my shop tools but knowledge is more valuable sometimes then tools. Thank you for the knowledge.
@lenblacksmith8559
@lenblacksmith8559 7 лет назад
Good stuff and thanks for taking the time to show us newbies how to properly swing the hammer, I'm going to use these techniques from now on. Cheers mate. Len
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 7 лет назад
Lenblacksmith you are very welcome!
@lenblacksmith8559
@lenblacksmith8559 7 лет назад
Thanks mate, at 62 I have found my love for blacksmithing again after 30 odd yrs being away from it, used to shoe horses when I was younger and that's when I got into it. So important to do things right, like in any trade there is a right way and a wrong way, you have just help me save my arms and shoulders for many more enjoyable yrs enjoying this hobby....bless you heaps.
@Hawk3G
@Hawk3G 5 лет назад
Thank you so much for this! Im a beginning blacksmith and already tweaked my shoulder/ upper back using just a 2.5 lb hammer and wailing on steel. Will DEFINITELY use this technique from now on once I heal up. Thank you!
@SuperiorEtchworx
@SuperiorEtchworx 6 лет назад
Sound advice. When I worked leather full time , I used a much heavier hammer for setting rivets because I was able to set them with 1 stroke and it saved thousands of strokes a day. I am in the process of setting up a forge and will use a 4lb and a 7lb to start. My brother has a forge and does most of his work with a 7lb minisledge that he has reground to have 1 flat face and 1 round face. We are both built like brick outhouses so the 7 isn't too heavy
@jordanmullenhopkins
@jordanmullenhopkins 5 лет назад
Thank you so very much. I am just starting out and this is a great thing to learn. Thank you.
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 5 лет назад
You are very welcome!
@southernblueblood5402
@southernblueblood5402 6 лет назад
Great video, good topic especially for us just getting started in blacksmith. Subscribed and looking forward to learning more, keep up the good videos.
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 6 лет назад
Greg Chappell thank you, I will!
@benkraul1980
@benkraul1980 6 лет назад
I’m watching thus cuz my shoulder and elbow are in serious Pain I do every thing you said to stop so THANK YOU THANK YOU will work on everything as soon as elbow feels better
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 6 лет назад
My pleasure, just keep your wrist loose or your elbow will hurt.
@samuelrosen137
@samuelrosen137 7 лет назад
Proper use of tools is definitely a good thing, one I try to subscribe to. In general, if it hurts or burns you out fast, figure out what you are doing wrong. Never use an impact type tool with a metal handle, thus do not use a crowbar as a hammer. If it impacts your hand, it impacts your elbow. Here is why hammers can severely injure those who use them wrong: For hammers, 1 point of grip is an axis around which a force will apply a torque on the hammer, 2 points of grip applies the reaction torque around your wrist. When your wrist is locked at maximum extent of motion the torque will apply force indirectly to your elbow. As the elbow has no mobility at the point of impact, the impulse of the hammer propagates directly through the elbow, and as a joint has a greater ability to dissipate power than a bone, much of the energy left over from propagating through the wrist and damaging it will dissipate in the elbow, harming the joint. For those who want the best understanding of this phenomena, put a sheet of paper between 2 round ended hammers and bang them together. For those who like physics, The energy dissipated will be approximately W=(1/2*m*v^2) per moving hammer. The time it takes to dissipate that energy t(1/2m*v^3)/d. For a 1 kg hammer, the power instantaneously dissipated in the paper is 5000W at the low speed of 1m/s and is 625000W at 5m/s. Lasers used to cut steel have that kind of pulsed power. The paper will VAPORIZE at the point of impact. Its almost like impact is a magnifying glass. Through misuse of a hammer, a person does a milder version of that to their elbows a bit at a time. This is also why you don't hit two hardened steel hammers directly together, because as d approaches 0, P approaches TOTALLY UNLIMITED POWER!!! ;) Yes, I am an engineer. Curiosity is the best wisdom, for knowledge is power. It also helps me that I am a rock climber and have a great quantity of strength and grip dexterity. I have noticed that I have a well tuned sense of whether an object will slip in grip. Thus my other bit of advice is before using a sharp tool such as a razor knife, wash your hands with soapy water if they are sweaty, your grip dexterity will be greatly improved. I will on occasion cut toward myself, but usually I will also be holding the knife in such a way that it can't stick me when I do.
@robertmeuser843
@robertmeuser843 7 лет назад
With this video I saw a lot of things I do right and many things I've been doing wrong. So, thanks for pointing out how to hammer safely.
@patroers9571
@patroers9571 6 лет назад
Great info. As a former concrete guy it all makes sense. And every time I have someone over that wants to try their hand at splitting some wood. I watch them struggle for a bit. Then have to step and give them some of this advice. Most people don't take it. But that's cause they've never had to do it all day. Every hammer or splitting stroke. Is weight x velocity. So. Be the fulcrum... not the force.
@jamiemahoney2446
@jamiemahoney2446 7 лет назад
Thanks for this. As with all things, get the basics right and the job gets easier.
@lenblacksmith8559
@lenblacksmith8559 6 лет назад
I love this, could you do one using this technique but on some hot metal and close up, that would be awesome. Cheers mate, Len
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 6 лет назад
I can do that, it'll be a bit though because I'm on the road for the next few weeks and can't setup properly.
@lenblacksmith8559
@lenblacksmith8559 6 лет назад
That's alright when you finish your trip that'll do. Thanks. Len
@marcosromero4026
@marcosromero4026 4 года назад
thank you for the tips as some one who has never forge you got any tips
@wray272
@wray272 6 лет назад
This was exactly what i was looking for and there are few to no other videos like this thank you
@joacomelo6633
@joacomelo6633 7 лет назад
thank you, i started making knifes about 4 or 5 monts ago and this video really helped me
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 7 лет назад
My pleasure, I'm happy to have helped :)
@scottthornton9237
@scottthornton9237 6 лет назад
Very informative and interesting, I learned something today.Thank you for posting this. I must tell you I had a lot of background noise here, as was watching this video. So i turned on the CC. Watch this with the CC on. It certainly adds a layer of comity.
@ScottHaneyHello
@ScottHaneyHello 7 лет назад
I still remember you mentioning the heavier hammer reasoning when I commented on how it must wear you out swinging it all day (at Forge Day last year in Picayune). I appreciate you doing this video. As a newbie, it's important to think about this, and folks don't address it very often like you said. Thanks for putting in the time to explain it all. I'm looking forward to more of the hammering technique videos and would also be interested in seeing more close-ups/explanations of how your grind your hammer face radiuses.
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 7 лет назад
You're welcome, Scott! I hadn't thought of doing a video on making hammers and grinding the faces, I'll put that on my list and work one up so keep checking back, and thanks!
@bigstuscotland3559
@bigstuscotland3559 5 лет назад
Smashin video, great tips and a must know before u start yer forging journey, Cheers from Scotland big chap ;D
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 5 лет назад
Thanks, and cheers!
@kainur
@kainur 6 лет назад
Thanks a lot very good input particularly since i am in the beginning of my hammerswinging enterprice. I will certainly take this to practise. My shoulders and arms already carries 60+years so it is helpful to integrate som good ways to do it!
@clydeulmer4484
@clydeulmer4484 7 лет назад
Excellent exposition of (what should be...) common sense good technique. It's notable that the techniques you show are fundamentally similar to the mechanics of a *good* tennis serve.
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 7 лет назад
I find that the biomechanics of proper techniques tend to be universal. There are right ways and wrong ways to move, at least in my experience.
@terryallen3550
@terryallen3550 5 лет назад
Thanks for the heads up. We've got to do some of this assessing techniques before we start work. Injuries can happen in an instant as well. Cheers and all the best :-)
@RG-xr2rc
@RG-xr2rc 3 года назад
Sir thank you just started working making stairs and my wrist arm and shoulder are in pain
@regnbuetorsk
@regnbuetorsk 7 лет назад
i will never blacksmith in my life, but this is soooo interesting!
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 7 лет назад
Davide Marras Thanks!
@regnbuetorsk
@regnbuetorsk 7 лет назад
Wolf's Den Forge you are welcome, i admire people who can manipulate and transform materials
@sethjones5078
@sethjones5078 6 лет назад
Thanks I'm going to try my best to use these tips.it should help lots.
@mikekeen9710
@mikekeen9710 4 года назад
loved it learnt something bout hammer swing before i even start cheers from new zealand
@BigWillSD
@BigWillSD 7 лет назад
Thank you! Couple points: My elbow has hurt much less after watching an other video on proper grip from an old timer keeping my thumb of the top. So ur spot on with that, and by your demonstration of "how not to swing" I realized I'm still driving the hammer. Very helpful, thank you!
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 7 лет назад
Will M. My pleasure! I'm glad you got something out of this :)
@MonsterRgo13
@MonsterRgo13 6 лет назад
Thank you for this! Great video, I recently forged my first tomahawk from a claw hammer and found myself rather sore afterward. because I was DRIVING the hammer. Never again. Thank you
@oathkeeper926
@oathkeeper926 7 лет назад
I appreciate the tips!! By the way...nice anvil...I couldn't get past the rebound on that thing!!!!!
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 7 лет назад
Robert Snelling thanks! The anvil is a 165# Trenton forged in 1919. I love it!
@philburns4778
@philburns4778 6 лет назад
Great information, most people don't know, getting out the Thor hammer now
@MercerBay
@MercerBay 6 лет назад
An exceptionally informative video - thanks for uploading!
@NKG416
@NKG416 6 лет назад
valuable lesson,thanks for your effort making this,glad i came across this video
@jimburnsjr.
@jimburnsjr. 7 лет назад
Thank you... these are lessons my dad and grandpa made a point to teach me... the point about the videos of improper swing of a sledge as a striker is important... youtube is an incredibly powerful and important resource.. the bad examples are producing more bad examples.. there is a virtuous measure of value to place on it... but as that measure of value is not so much that you destroy lives with trash talk and thereby perpetuate the potential for bad hammer swing... it is also not so small a measure of value that you destroy all potential by putting forth examples of men shackled with fear and ignorance such that they never learn or try to develop a proper swing and thereby gain the benefit of the dignity of the true and magnanimous maturation of their potential as a craftsman... .... the language was not invented by men who didn't respect the potential consequences and rewards of their existence.... it is called swinging a hammer.. not pushing a hammer ... for a reason. thank you for taking the time to make this video.. and thank you for not actually trying to be a total d bag in doing it... thereby increasing the odds of salvaging what dignity and true value in those bad examples that may be salvaged.. along with their children who may be apt to make false claims and get hurt trying to defend them. lets hope they aren't ignorant enough to claim they did it to cause a reaction in the community... but to have decent humility.. and say thank you for giving me an opportunity to be a better man and a better example for the next generation.
@bryananderson9021
@bryananderson9021 7 лет назад
Awesome info! Some stuff I knew but A LOT I didn't know or realize. Thaky you again. Could you by chance post a vid on how to make steel branding irons? That would be VERY BENEFICIAL for me. Because I am currently working on an smithing project using a 7/8 tool steel bolt and turning the head of it into a hot brand.
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 7 лет назад
Bryan Anderson honestly I've never done one before, but I'll think on it a bit.
@allinthedetails836
@allinthedetails836 6 лет назад
I really like your videos, it is clear that you are very dedicated to your craft, do you ever work with a striker, and if so do you have or would you consider a video based on that??
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 6 лет назад
Thank you! Yes, I do work with a striker some times. I have done videos with my apprentice Cameron while we forged him his first forging hammer. There's two videos, I believe of this, the first one you can see him break one of my knuckles, lol.
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 6 лет назад
All In The Details that knuckle is still svwered up, lol. He broke it good!
@kram4040
@kram4040 6 лет назад
Wow, when I first saw you come into frame i thought, "this guy's gonna be a Richard'. But, the subject of your video was intriguing. So, I watched. You were super cool with GREAT information. Well DONE. I subscribed and liked. i look forward to more good stuff.
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 6 лет назад
Mark Phillips thanks!
@lsubslimed
@lsubslimed 7 лет назад
Excellent video and great info! This really made an impression on me and I'm sure it'll stick with me. Thanks for sharing! Btw, just noticed you do a lot of bladesmithing, definitely Subbed 👍
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 7 лет назад
lsubslimed I do, it's my speciality.
@CelticGod220
@CelticGod220 6 лет назад
Just found your channel. I had to laugh during the whole video because you sound like me when I am teaching students how to develop power and speed during weapons training. The techniques seem to directly translate everything from how to hold a weapon to the actually swinging it. Makes me wonder if old sayings/stories are indeed true. The basic idea of the stories is be respectful of the smith because he knows the weapon much better than you possibly could. Watching you swing these hammers I would think three times before accepting a fight from you if you had a hammer in your hand.
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 5 лет назад
What's funny is the exact same technique is how I teach someone to hold and swing a sword. That and a little physics lesson on how a sword behaves. Come to think of it, I'll have to do a video on that!
@darwinschierer8575
@darwinschierer8575 6 лет назад
Excellent video. Thanks!
@dearcastiel4667
@dearcastiel4667 6 лет назад
I'm late on that one but for the up and down motion you speak of around 10:00 it's pretty simple why some people do it: it's way easier to be accurate that way. If you have no training with a hammer, using it like you show is really difficult accuracy wise.
@ryanstern7125
@ryanstern7125 6 лет назад
Good shit. Thanks for the pointers.
@BBCTopgearfan
@BBCTopgearfan 6 лет назад
I've used hammers my whole life and never really stopped to think why I am still swinging long after my co-workers have tapped out. Used to teach martial arts before getting fat in college and the body dynamics make a lot of sense.
@jeremyeichelberger9243
@jeremyeichelberger9243 5 лет назад
Absolute gold. Thank you. Do you feel that these basic techniques apply to bladesmithing as well? I find myself breaking the rules when it comes to that specific work, and would love to hear your thoughts on the matter. Thanks again mate. Cheers.
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 5 лет назад
Of course it does, bladesmithing is the highest form of blacksmithing. All the skills apply. Working your basic blacksmithing skills to perfection is what makes you a great bladesmith.
@Wheels_United
@Wheels_United 6 лет назад
Thank you so much for this video after I’m done forging my back is always killing me so I hope some of these techniques help me get rid of that! God bless!
@frankenstein7722
@frankenstein7722 7 лет назад
Thanks, very useful and now I know better :)
@RedLegBlazer
@RedLegBlazer 6 лет назад
That movement is beautiful. Efficient, powerful, and graceful. It looks like a silat strike. Lol.
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 6 лет назад
Thank you :) I"m a lifelong martial artist and that very much informs how I use my body, even with a hammer.
@RedLegBlazer
@RedLegBlazer 6 лет назад
Wolf's Den Forge So, if you ever have to defend yourself, and you happen to have a hammer handy... You won't wear out your shoulder whilst delivering justice!
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 6 лет назад
Exactly!
@christopherneelyakagoattmo6078
I also see a lot of people that twist their back around toward the centerline of the anvil face. My guess is that after fatigue sets in, they are trying to support more of their swing by bringing the mass of the upper body over the strike point. I'm sure this keeps them from over-extending their shoulder. You of course are showing that this never needs to happen. You can stand all day with your hips and shoulders square to the anvil, or at least in line with your feet. You do not have to resort to contorting every muscle from your hamstrings to your jaw in order to swing a hammer. Here's a tip. If you are gritting your teeth while you swing; you are doing it wrong. Good blacksmiths look like they are dancing a samba; not wrestling a badger.
@nathanwarner4333
@nathanwarner4333 5 лет назад
nice tech, good info Thanks.
@scottreynolds4827
@scottreynolds4827 5 лет назад
I have been blacksmithing for many years. I'm paid to do so. By the state of ohio. Blacksmithing. And I cannot understand why anyone would invert the hammer. I mean, flip it upside down..... And I have never heard of a blacksmith with a bad shoulder. Your video is mentioning shoulder. Blacksmiths suffer from blacksmith's elbow. AKA tendonitis. Another topic you mentioned, the large sledge. I see many strikers on very popular RU-vid channels, including everyone's favorite Alec Steele strikers, lifting it just as you say and described not to. Odd.... You make good points. But watching other videos, contradicts what points you are demonstrating.
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 5 лет назад
And that is exactly my point. Just because particular information is popular doesn't mean it's right. Also, I know several blacksmiths who have had surgery on their shoulder and can no longer forge specifically because of their hammer technique, and I know quite a few more that are on their way to bad shoulder injuries.
@kop1018
@kop1018 7 лет назад
Very interesting and informative thanks did u make the pendant u have ?
@genxfordguy1380
@genxfordguy1380 5 лет назад
Direct, funny, no B.S. cool tips on techniques, but at the end of the day... Hes right!
@fluffbutticusrompus3298
@fluffbutticusrompus3298 7 лет назад
ill make sure to spread these tips if i can find any blacksmiths in northwest florida. they seem nonexistent
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 7 лет назад
Go to the ABANA website, abana.org. Just about all local blacksmith guilds are affiliate members of ABANA and you can find them through the website.
@sooooooooob
@sooooooooob 7 лет назад
Informative AND entertaining hahaha excellent!
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 7 лет назад
Thank you :)
@Michael-yq1oo
@Michael-yq1oo 6 лет назад
Another good video!
@jacquestaulard3088
@jacquestaulard3088 5 лет назад
Great! Great!
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 5 лет назад
Thank you!
@NoBSSurvival
@NoBSSurvival 7 лет назад
So what is wrong with going straight up and down in a punching motion? Is it just less power or will it hurt you in the future? I was shown it as a way to protect your wrist from vibration if you just let it drop and not power it down hard.
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 7 лет назад
No BS Survival Blacksmithing Swords And Armour a punching motion as yiu suggest is one of the worst techniques you could use, it is very harsh on the should and lacks any kind of power at all. The truck with good hammer technique is to get plenty of power with minimal effort and without hurting yourself.
@standaffern6595
@standaffern6595 6 лет назад
LOL...I could teach little girls to do this! Do you know how many wannabe blacksmiths you just insulted? Thanks for pointing out why I been having trouble focusing my eyes on what I'm trying to hit... I been swinging my hammer and bobbing my head like a farrier! I'm going to give your technique a go. It appears similar to Hofi's. Good job on the views...
@bighammer587
@bighammer587 6 лет назад
Thank you sir
@loiczimmermann7217
@loiczimmermann7217 6 лет назад
thank you!!!
@fluffbutticusrompus3298
@fluffbutticusrompus3298 7 лет назад
good video
@scottleft3672
@scottleft3672 7 лет назад
3 pound is perfect unless you stop for a few days at a time then 2 pounds
@TheBestGytax
@TheBestGytax 6 лет назад
I noticed the penguin tattoo. are you a linux fan? ✌
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 6 лет назад
Oh, I've dabbled.
@NotonlyWood
@NotonlyWood 7 лет назад
just found your channel and subbed :D Your technique seems pretty effective. At the time Im using the technique that is teached by Christ centered Iron Works here on YT. But I will try yours out. Im still finding myself since im only forging for about 1 year Cheers:D
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 7 лет назад
Not only Wood cheers!
@hsmith3844
@hsmith3844 5 лет назад
Like holding a bow, no death grip.
@chrisheyer1
@chrisheyer1 6 лет назад
cool beans! I like that bro
@jasonheavenalexander6456
@jasonheavenalexander6456 5 лет назад
Add more cowbell
@seanwalton6208
@seanwalton6208 7 лет назад
You're great! Loved your vid. Now, striking... I am trying to unlearn the thumb-on-handle yutz, but the problem is that the hammer flops around between strikes. I've considered grooving the handle so that it fits my hand better. Thoughts?
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 7 лет назад
Sean Walton Thank you, Sean! You can try laying you thumb along side the hammer handle, I still do this sometimes. It gives you a feeling of more co tool without the vibration issue although it is best to adapt your grip so you don't need the thumb. Use the oblong cross section of you handle as a guide to index yiu hammer properly and remember that change takes practice. Good luck and have fun!
@seanwalton6208
@seanwalton6208 7 лет назад
It has been fun. [Forgive me if I bend your ear too much.] I'm 54+ and have always been profoundly interested in the "lost arts," because I believe that that knowledge will be critical in coming years. It is so very different from what I do day-to-day: computer programming. About a month ago, I began researching blacksmithing, discovering that I have done metal work throughout my life. I'm a "DIY'er" at heart, in part to save money but mostly to learn. So I jumped in and found a couple local masters to learn from. I am starting simple and even taking the knowledge to the youth of our church. Again, your advice on hammer handling is terrific. I will try it. Thank you!
@CorrieBergeron
@CorrieBergeron 7 лет назад
Sean, I'm 55. Been doing historical re-enacting / "making stuff" for 35+ years. More if you count Scouting. Don't tell anyone, but it's really all about developing a post-apocalyptic skillset. "Let's keep the old geezer alive; he knows useful stuff!" :-)
@seanwalton6208
@seanwalton6208 7 лет назад
Yes, I believe we are all feeling it. Technology is fleeting; craftsmanship is enduring. There is something fulfilling in working one's hands. I take a piece and with what my wife would call "single thought intensity," and look at it from several angles. A lot like pottery, only a bit more dangerous. Since writing this, I've made a chisel ( :| ), punch ( :| ), kitchen cutlery knife ( :) ), a pair of tongs ( :/ ), a leather-shaving knife ( :) ), a hammerhead ( :), and a bowie ( : ... ) -- all this once a week! My next projects are: making a grill for our fire ring in the backyard, making handles, and duplicating a hammerhead from a master hammer smith. I will probably try making another pair of tongs. With Wolfden's advice, I've come a long ways.
@CorrieBergeron
@CorrieBergeron 7 лет назад
"Technology is fleeting; craftsmanship is enduring." I LIKE that a LOT. I've often said that human nature and human needs do not change. What changes is the means by which we express our nature and fulfill our needs. My skills are more verbal than physical, but they are complementary. I can use words to teach, describe, inspire. I've found that often master craftsfolk can't really teach well, as they've forgotten what it's like not to Just Know This Stuff.
@Wubbis1
@Wubbis1 6 лет назад
so with your 5lb hammer, how large of an anvil are you using? the 40x the hammer so 200lbs or do you have additional insight?
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 6 лет назад
My anvil is 165lbs. The 40x rule is a guideline and not actually backed by any real physics. I've read it stated as the 10x rule and a few others. As for insight, that's easy, it's called experience. My 5.5lbs hammer moves metal much much faster than my 3lb hammer. That's not a guess, that's a fact I've learned from direct comparison doing the same job with different hammers on the same anvil. The only way to know for sure is to try it yourself. Do a project that requires a good amount of material moving, for example a spike knife, then use a heavier hammer and do another one, you'll see pretty quick. The size of your anvil does not limit the amount of work your hammer will do, if that were true than striking with a sledge hammer on your anvil wouldn't do any more work than a hammer that is 1/40th the weight of your anvil. Cheers.
@Wubbis1
@Wubbis1 6 лет назад
Ok- my home anvil is a 125HB, and I'm working the hammer collection up- I have the basic peens, and the usual hammers, plus a pair of 2-3.3ish lb Swedes, a 2lb mccrady rounder and a 2.5lb cross pein, then a 2lb dogs head currently. I am considering a Brian B style rounder, and have considered getting 2 to fit the weight size/space having them made into 3-4.5lb range. I consider a 3-3.5lb rounder and then a 4.5 for the time being. short of my 8lb sledge, this should round things out for the interim?
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 6 лет назад
That's a pretty good selection of hammers. Most people can get by for the majority of forging operations with just a couple of hammers. A cross peen and a rounding hammer will do 99% of the jobs you'll need to do. Also, I recommend finding a blacksmith who has the tools and go there to forge your own hammers. It's extremely rewarding. They may even be able to teach you how to forge the tools you need to make hammers. Cheers.
@Wubbis1
@Wubbis1 6 лет назад
Wolf's Den Forge I plan on going to one and doing that this next few months
@13odman
@13odman 7 лет назад
Nice Tux! :P
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 7 лет назад
Thanks!
@schmidtforge1946
@schmidtforge1946 6 лет назад
fucking. genius.
@AndrewJordanBladesmith
@AndrewJordanBladesmith 5 лет назад
Ow no ! What a carpenter giving advise on Hammer technique used in Forging either in Blacksmithing or Bladesmithing . Speed of the hammer head the heat in the steel is very important . DON"T use this technique described in this video , Lets see some iron on the anvil and then we see what your technique is . A heavy hammer is not the only way ! Your technique as described is going to hurt people . Another thing "CLEAN UP FOR FORGE " its a mess !
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 5 лет назад
30 years so far, I don't seem to be having any trouble. Meanwhile, if I had a dollar for everyone I know personally who can't forge anymore because of using too light of a hammer and swinging too hard, well, I'd could have a good night at the pub. Meanwhile, there is a comment below where I actually do the math on this whole hammer head speed vs. weight thing. That would be my expensive degree in physics paying off. You, on the other hand, have given little to know evidence to how this is bad. You you care to lay some out?
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 5 лет назад
Also, I'd be interested to know how literally dropping a hammer, as I describe in this technique, is going to hurt someone. I've failed to hurt myself dropping things my whole life unless it landed on my foot. You?
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 5 лет назад
Looking at your youtube channel, I see ZERO videos of you hand forging anything, as a matter of fact, the only time you have a hammer in your hand is to straighten tangs and such. I'd like to hear you out here, but I'm not seeing any basis for your opinion. Also, any first year blacksmith apprentice would tell you to get your thumb off the hammer handle. Just saying.
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 5 лет назад
Here's the math, just to save you digging around: 5.5lbs * 52.5fps = 8.97 ft/lbs 2lbs * 52.5fps = 3.26 ft/lbs 5.5lbs * 19.1fps = 3.26 ft/lbs As you can see, it takes far less energy to get the same force using a larger hammer over a smaller one, so actually ,the chances of you hurting yourself by exertion is much greater if you use a light hammer.
@ohmahgawdfilms
@ohmahgawdfilms 5 лет назад
wait... peoples shoulders hurt when hammering?
@MrWTPunk
@MrWTPunk 5 лет назад
this voice! good video by the way thanks
@stankirtley9106
@stankirtley9106 3 года назад
I like u broken hand
@idadho
@idadho 6 лет назад
Learn the physics of hammer impacts. A lighter hammer with just a bit more speed will impart the same or more energy into the piece than a heavier hammer. www.1728.org/energy.htm keisan.casio.com/exec/system/1224835316
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 6 лет назад
He says to the guy with a degree in physics. It can't be more, because if I swing a heavier hammer with the same speed as a light hammer ,there is more force. Force = mass x acceleration, more mass + more speed = more power. If you would have rolled that around your head a second before saying it, you would have realized that. Thanks for playing, though.
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 6 лет назад
Also, more mass means you don't have to swing as hard, you are letting the mass do the work, not your muscles. As I stated: acceleration of gravity, coupled with a bit of centrifugal force, coupled with the mass of your hammer equals MORE force for LESS WORK. Sure, you can go wear yourself out swinging a little hammer all you want, but physics is on my side. As you said, please learn the physics of hammer impacts.
@Wolfsdenforge
@Wolfsdenforge 6 лет назад
For Example, Mark G: a typical weight farrier hammer is 2 lbs, the hammer I'm using in this demonstration is 5.5 lbs. If I swing a 2lbs farrier hammer at the fastest I"m capable of, about 52.5 feet per second, that is 3.26 foot pounds of energy. Meanwhile I only have to swing my 5.5lbs hammer a leisurely 19.1 ft/s to get the same power. However, if I were to swing my hammer at half the speed I can swing a 2lbs hammer, 26.25 ft/s, I generate 4.48 ft/lbs of force. See what I mean? with literally half the energy I can put into a light hammer I can do much more work. Here's a link to a force calculator, help yourself www.calculatorsoup.com/calculators/physics/force.php
@idadho
@idadho 6 лет назад
Good to see you know the physics. But, in the video you said the weight is more important. Comparing a 5.5 to a 2 pound is a stretch. Moving from a 4 pound to a 5.5 pound with an out of control swing is not going to solve the problem. Plus, a well balanced heavy blacksmith's hammer is going to perform better with a loose grip gravity drop than the common cheap hammers many hobbyist can afford. Just watch the many bad bounces and glancing blows. Many can't control the heavier hammers. You point to shoulder issues but seem to ignore carpal tunnel issues. The heavier hammer can be harder on the wrist. Plus, you should not be dropping the hammer with relaxed shoulder muscles. This puts stress on the shoulder joint because the shoulder muscles are not holding the humerus head snug in the socket. This leads to impingement wear and tear. I had a problem with my shoulder until a physical therapist taught me this important point. There are 4 shoulder muscles than need to work in unison to keep the shoulder stable. You are right than many are wild with a hammer and work harder swinging than they have to. Maybe a video about finding an affordable hammer that has good balance would be worthwhile. Hitting the sweet spot with a lighter balanced hammer can do far more than a heavier unbalanced hammer. For example. When striking, does the hammer head want to rotate and twist the handle in your grip? Does it want to glance one way or the other. Is poor aim an issue? Are you striking the work with the sweet spot? Maybe I'm too picky but I have had hammers that were pure junk and bounced/twisted around and some that strike with a smooth, easy on the body feel. 2 of my favorite hammers are drilling hammers. They go where I tell them and stay put.
@idadho
@idadho 6 лет назад
How does centrifugal force have anything to do with the force on impact? Centrifugal force want to pull the hammer out of your hand. It is perpendicular to the force applied to the target.
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