This video is one of the reasons I love RU-vid and the net. Love learning things like this. I'm older, we had to drag our butts to the library to get info like this and chances of seeing a video like this were few and far between. I honestly think some of the pieces should be glazed and displayed, like the junction box.😁
This stuff requires training, skill, long apprenticeships and an eye to detail; in short, true craftsmen. I, like One of Billions, am older and would have never had the opportunity to see this w/o RU-vid. Absolutely great stuff; thanks you @snadhghus!
@@sampsonsunny6298 thanks for adding such a well thought out and eloquent addition to the conversation. Comments like yours are true evidence that western civilization is on the upswing and true enlightenment is just around the corner. Applause for Sunny!
while i was underpinning a house in north london, i remember digging into a land drain clay pipe about 2 meters down and i split it, and a trickle of water was coming out of the pipe, this irsh voice from above me at the edge of the hole said "be jesus you are going to regret that" with a little chuckle, he was right a bucket of water every 7 mins poured in, i still had 2 meters to dig down.
The series of 37 or 38 programmes was made by Rte. The quality of the narration is second to none. Rte do not seem to have many presenters today who could deliver a similar commentary. We are confronted by hand flapping presenters who have a personal image to project. Not so sure about dedidley outbreak of music intermittently during the program but the quality of historic footage and commentary compensates for that
Irish Stoneware & Fireclays Limited was set up on Thursday the 12th of October 1950. Their current partial address is Dublin, and the company status is Dissolved with the company closing on Friday the 31st of October 2008.
lost skill sets and a lost time, my time, i grew up during these times and when i watch these i feel like a thousand years has passed. i miss those times.
Having worked with pvc pipe and installing underground services, I have a special admiration for this process. Now I'd like to see how these are installed.
The junction is just so impressive. Their art in crafting is second to none, I hope these men can pass their experience down. For generations to come. I am just so amazed at the HANDS work...
Dont worry, they didnt. Tradies have nobody to blame but themselves, for decades it was all a secret club and nobody shared any info. Now they all cry as their last tradesmen die off and nobody knows the work amymore. Seen it dozens of times.
Makes you wonder if the automation of production is what really kills job satisfaction in the modern factory. These guys make the same things everyday, but each piece takes thought and skill, and in the end you end up with something that you uniquely produced. You don't get that hitting a button on a machine all day.
indeed you don't, but your boss gets higher dividend payments due to needing less workers, welcome to capitalism, it doesn't work for most, most work for few. As for the business above, unfortunately ended trading in 2008.
Thank you, I love to know how things are made, especially in the traditional way Ceramics was a huge leap forward in our history, I would love to have work in this factory. I would like to buy around 35 of these pipes for making terracotta wine racks. I do hope that this factory is still in full production. My respect has increased, for this skill.
I wish I could work here. Also Pat the builder of those boxes around the 13:00 minute mark, he should have signature every one of his pieces with the date, works of art
This video is one of the reasons I love RU-vid and the net. Love learning things like this. I'm older, we had to drag our butts to the library to get info like this and chances of seeing a video like this were few and far between. I honestly think some of the pieces should be glazed and displayed, like the junction box.
Great video. I found it interesting that the workforce was super robust--dozens of guys helping out with every task--but also skewed pretty old. Lots of old-timers with 30 years experience and seemingly not many fresh bodies replacing them. And everyone was wearing suit coats.
When I started in the seventies the jacket and a cap with a good pair of boots or shoes was all you had or needed . A good suit jacket had plenty of pockets and kept the wind and rain off .
This doc was made in 83, found this listing on the web; Irish Stoneware & Fireclays Limited was founded on 12 Oct 1950 and has its registered office in Dublin 2. The organisation's status is listed as "Dissolved". It had 3 directors at the time it closed.
Like all traditional factories go and went. First the foreign money pours in, then the "efficiency"-managers come in and automatize everything they can and soon they decide that the whole factory should be shut down and production moved to China.
I could almost read the date on the film's ending as, I think, 1989. Were they making clay pipes at that time, or was this video shot before then, do you think?
A simply fantastic documentary again. Thank you so much for uploading and sharing. By the way: I live nearby the Westerwald in Germany where the most quarries with white clay are. It is called the white gold of the western forrest. For hundreds of years there had been an enormous number of families and companies working with clay. For example making pottery, tiles, tobacco pipes, pipes, plant pots and all kinds of products. Some do even today. It is called " Kannenbäckerland" which means something like potbakercountry. It was/is famous especially for its salt glazed products. Tobacco pipe making for example: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lUEoSioqGzM.html
I bet if a German couple had traveled around Germany in the 70s they could have made an equally fascinating series like this one. Anywhere in the world, as these traditions are as rich and varied as people are.
Beautiful wonderful work...I'm an American irish but my ancestors come from Ulster province....these videos connect me to them as I've always wanted tio go to Ireland....I'm 64 years of age and I've spent my entire life learning about my roots...
Buy Euros at the bureau de change and then when you have enough save your money for a ticket and then you can go back to the old home if your family but it might take a while
Like the clay roof tiles in Miami that still had the hair marks from being shaped over the thighs of Cuban women, these men demonstrate the value of skilled labor in the product they make. Makes me proud to be Irish.
Patrick Ancona Ask yourself if you could afford a woollen three-piece suit to work in if you were a coal stoker in a factory today, and you’ll see what has changed.
If you watch any black and white movie, you'll see that everyone in Europe and America, and a good bit of the world wore a coat and tie and hat, all the time, then starting in the 60s the hippies started to break the mold.
I have watched about a dozen of these (love them!) and I notice there does not appear to be any tradition of special workclothes. From flax growers pitching bundles, stone cutters or clayworkers: they all wear button down shirts, sweater vests, wool blazers. I am sure not Sunday best, but no jeans, Carharts or what I would think of as an uniform. I wonder why they did not keep the tradition of linen work shirts/tunics and less tailored pants for movement that they had in earlier centuries?
The pipes being manufactured in the clips are used for "land drainage" laid end to end, sewage so no joints are needed, mainly for agricultural applications.
@@mwnciboo Not every tradesman was an alcoholic. You did have a drink on pay day and Sunday morning/dinnertime. Drinking and heavy smoking was part of the culture then.
I know they are speaking English, but I cann'ae understand a word of it! I have no idea how this ended up in my Recommended list, but I'm glad I watched it. Learned a few things.
All tradesmen dresses like that. My own father always wore a tie with starch collar fresh everyday. Thats what you call a tradesman. All tradesmen believed in cleanliness when working. It was part of their training. You never bring dirt to work and you never bring it home. I have worked with clay pipes doing alteration cutting holes in live sewer pipe. The craft of these men is brilliant to watch, years of experience and knowledge. Brings back happy memories. Safety was always part of their work ethics and common sense. To many idiots with the wrong training now. That's why to many accidents happen. Health and safety my arse.
And here a year later. I appreciate the slow pace, they moved deliberately, and seemed utterly relaxed and focused on doing a excellent job on each piece. This is community, stable jobs like these helped keep society stable and the trust these men have with each other...it's wonderful. Modern OSHA rules are needed, in the more discordant and hurried workplace of distracted untrained workers we see today. Also to stop profit seeking business owners from causing accidents by creating unsafe conditions on purpose. ( Because it's cheaper that way) A universal set of rules are needed in highly industrialized manufacturing. Not all rules are good, they design them to fit all, even the dumbest among us. For a skilled worker, I think good practices and focus will serve better then excessive layers of safety equipment.
Hands... Handy works are so important. Tks for this nice vid which inspired me and made me learn a few things on clay work. Maybe I will try something close in my property, sometimes.
Back when stuff was built to last. They'll be digging up these perfectly preserved clay pipes 10,000 years from now, next to the dust piles of pipes made from inferior materials.
@@aidy6000 I don't know. Whenever it comes to these polymer chains, I think that it's just one evolutionary step away from getting consumed by bacteria...
@@aidy6000 If I recall right, the life expectancy for HDPE pipes is 50-100 years. In comparison there are some places that still use original Roman clay pipes. I'm not advocating that we should go back to clay, because there are a lot of very good reasons for HDPE, but building things to last effectively forever is not one of them.
My first job was in a heavy clay works (which made products for steelworks rather than drainage) and a lot of this seemed familiar, though they were just demolishing the beehive kilns when I started, so it was fascinating to see them being set, fired and drawn.
I couldn't understand most of their words nor any of their conversation. Also how do you use the short pipes that lack flares or any conical shape? Are they joined with slugs of clay or just pressed end to end?
With the invention of pvc and abs pipe I'm pretty sure it ended this industry. I'm a retired American plumber and ceramic clay pot thrower angelophile so I have a deep appreciation for this production
My thoughts exactly. Also, with the hysteria about climate change, the burning of coal to fire the kilns ... gasp!!! The flip side of PVC and ABS is that it is made from oil. Gasp again!!! Oh well, the climate alarmists will be content to do without sewer lines in their new caves.
You mean Anglophile. You should know then that this is Ireland, not England, which is quite an insult, considering our mutual history. Oh BTW, kudos for being a clay pot thrower. Skills are definitely needed. I'm a sculptor and don't get near enough time for the beauty of ceramics.
I had been meaning to find a place for custom made clay containers or pots to store in under the soil of a at grade planter, for storing rain water in my garden and let the water in the clay container slowly release the water back into the soil on a dry sunny day, wondering if there’s a specific kinda of clay for this usage ?
Llevo años y años mirando este vídeo por la razón que hay unos hombres hermosos. No cabe duda que hay hombres que apesar o sin importar su edad nunca dejan de ser hermosos. Nunca me cansaré de ver este vídeo. 😍
Factories of this time existed to fulfill a need. To solve a problem first and make a profit second. Today, it is the other way around. I see most companies only exist because they can and almost seem to create problems so they can solve them. How times have changed...
Old Ireland -men had suits -smoked pipes at work -went to church on sundays New Ireland -juul/vape -spend weekends eating kebabs after grinding a slag at club -claim they are atheist or agnostic -lick British feet
Reminds me of woodworking. It's still work, but good work, where you see and feel if you are doing it well. Very satisfactory I guess. I believe many people just pushing buttons today, would imediatly swap their job for this kind of handwork🙌👍
Sadly, where I live and work the joy of woodworking is fading as the only criteria is how fast you can blast it out. All corners have been cut to where no skill is required. Just screwing rectangles together with hammer drills. This documentary really made me nostalgic.
Woodworking has been on the chopping block for years and I’m not talking about wood butchers/carpenters. It’s sad to see it go as a possible profession. Its becoming a lost art in first world countries. If you need a CNC to make a circle or an arch out of wood you’re not a woodworker
I visited a kiln in Vegan, Luzon, Philippines which has been in operation for over 200 years. It was a horizontal oven with ports at various distances from the heat source to place the green pottery. Very interesting
How do they use them? Specifically how do you connect them in a way that they don't weak at the connection what kind of gasket or sealant is used do they just cram more clay into the gaps between the beveled peace and the one that slides in. Surely that's not the way wouldn't it be Is fire hardened or anything. Tar maybe?