Hands-On with the HP Reverb VR Headset! 

It looks like it was a long day ^_^ He did well :)

This is what all I value in VR. When watching Oculus people it is just about marketing. However for VR to flourish we need both parties.

@Johan Very true, extremely impressive screens this early in the market for this price. Of course the wmr 1.0 tracking it is or it would hit a grand in pricing.

Yeah he made it clear certain choices are held back by Microsoft (tracking/controllers) and won’t be updated until WMR2 is released by them. I was interested in the higher FOV and lower binocular overlap. The sweet spot discussion was good, but I wanted to hear more about those features.

There is a battle brewing for the VR Workplace Headset. HP and Pimax RE are neck and neck. Price war going HP while the battle for ruggedness going to Pimax.

yep agree this could be perfect for sim racing, cockpit elite dangerous, all seated type off games very interesting great review

@@mpwave 👍

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Are you waiting for them to salute you xD

Can both you guys do a Pico G2 4K review? It seems to be a good option for enterprise. www.pico-interactive.com/g2-4k

Agree these new gears do amazing things

It's more expensive than the vive lmao

@@littlesnowflakepunk855 The resolution is higher than the vive pro so makes sense?

@@littlesnowflakepunk855 600 $ for the Vive ? Lol ur dreaming

Hopefully they adopt a halo strap, so much more comfortable.

@@Nekminute I legit just googled it, it's avaliable at Best Buy for $500

All Windows Mixed Reality headsets - including the HP Reverb, are Steam VR compatible. Official support varies on a game by game basis but it works pretty well in a lot of cases.

The MRTV review with Sebastian demonstrates for FPS games and Bow and Arrow games is just fine with the HP Reverb

​@@glenquagmire7724 as a HP WMR user, i'll be amazed if there aren't problems when taking aim and holding your hand still outside of the FOV of the headset. that's kinda the problem, if you just pull back and release you're fine but trying to aim then the hand looses tracking

@@glenquagmire7724 I... Don't believe you. I've used 5 different MR headsets and own an Odyssey+ and an Asus MR headset and THEY ALL HAVE THIS ISSUE. The HP VR1000 also has this issue. So.. Yeah, the only way it could be true is if the game dev added some productive motion stuff which won't be perfect, because the cameras just don't have the coverage. Hand tracking sucks with MR compared to Oculus or Vive.

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if yo ujust want to watch movies in VC and use VD do i need a new video card or can I just use my rx580? im not going to be gaming

@@BaranNCTMB someone with more experience than me might be able to be more specific, but I'm pretty sure a 580 would be fine for a cinema

Twice 2K is not 4K

It's only dead for those who can't afford them or don't have one.

Norm: 65, Jeremy: 61

@@lostecho4394 Up until a few months ago that was my experience. But recently I've been able to maintain 6DOF outside of my FOV almost indefinitely, however after 10 seconds the drift does become noticeable. It may be the case that some mod I have installed is causing this behavior.

I have WMR as well and it is definitely does not last 10 seconds outside camera's view. It can predict your trajectory for 1-2 seconds outside of camera's view and then after that it turns into a 3DOF controller until it's back in view. Of course this is enough for any game that requires you grab a weapon/arrow etc.. from your back. And the improvements have nothing to do with SteamVR. It's the "Windows Mixed Reality for SteamVR" app that has improved a lot and Windows updates.

I've had the Explorer, original Odyssey and now the Odyssey+. Headset tracking is spot on. Many people approach WMR with prejudice thinking inside out tracking simply can't be as good as external tracking. They're right, but only when it comes to controllers. Then again only due to blind spots, not the accuracy. - your room just needs to be lit, nothing else. It won't work in darkness. - I have a plain, smooth, white wall facing away from my desk. If I look at it in HMD it has not misbehaved so far. Not even once. However, I've seen in one of the WMR review videos on YT, that if you have a greenscreen setup, you will need to put some marks on the green areas if the HMD's cameras are facing the greenscreen exclusively. He got around it by putting couple of black tape strips on the walls. One thing to watch out for is reflective surfaces like mirrors and glass (mainly big windows and such). However, this is something to look out for on any VR platform. If you're mainly using VR for racing sims, then WMR is a good choice for you. IMO the only downside of WMR is the controller blind spots, and those will not apply to you.

That’d be a great use case!

​@@tested Is the sound quality equal to the original Oculus Rift?

Yeah. I will keep my rift for movement games but need something like this on my rig. So i dont care about the controllers shipping with this headset.

My thoughts exactly. Sim users will be seated in one place and won't spend much time with the controllers. However they have instruments and details inside the sim where the resolution will come in handy. The price tag is easier to swallow if you've already got a much more expensive cockpit setup.

Knowing Index is coming out in weeks, I honestly don't see why anyone would consider HP Reverb

The base stations and controllers are pretty expensive tho

@@adrianjaroszewski8955 buy a used vive like I did for 275 and then sell your windows controllers for 80 to 100 bucks.... you are only out 175ish I dont think that's bad vs terrible screens on a oculus or the price of a vice pro....

@@lostecho4394 by every means terrible man. First the optics are the worst... God rays galore and the screens are very low resolution. I own rift, vive, lenovo explorer, odyssey, and odyssey plus and out of all of them vive and rift are really sub part in visual fidelity. This is why I'm excited about the hp reverb and why I'm so disappointed and pissed off at oculus/Facebook. The new valve index I really dont think that's going to have any better screens then a vive pro since its only display port 1.2 so inherent limitations on bandwidth.

My issue is that many games are very much hindered or unplayable with the rift. Pretty much any sim or any first person shooter gets extremely blurry with distance. Sims are all terrible unless they are made cartoony which helps but then not much of a sim. Even the odyssey plus isnt enough to have a crisp image for simulations and it's by far surpasses anything oculus has. And honestly with how bad the God rays are on the rift I really dont like using it. I havent sold it yet because I'm just a bit too tied up to deal with having to.

@@lostecho4394 I dont have anything wrong it's just i have used better displays and if you once again play any sim will notice how bad it really is. When you cant read gauges because the resolution is so low that it's more of a reference point vs a actual guage that's bad. Like I said the odyssey plus is way ahead but even still it's not there I'm hoping the reverb will be closer. On normal displays I normally play on a 4k panel or a 3440x1440 100hz so maybe I'm just useto better clarity. I hineslty think the rift is subpar and everyone that I have shown it too says the same thing its blurry (they dont know what resolution is) and then I give them the odyssey or the odyssey plus and they notice a huge difference but also still note that it's still not like a monitor. If you are flying a war bird and have to lean in to check manifold pressure or oil ect then you know the headset isnt really good enough. On the other side is if you cant spot planes due to the resolution being so muddy then once again. Afterwards you put on a better display and its day and night then well the evidence is clear....

Unfortunately didn’t get to use them long enough to make a judgement. Will have to wait for the shipping unit for testing!

Thanks for reply, certainly interesting for sim racing and flying 2080ti definately needed for this type of game I think, think this will replace my odyssey plus for sims and the valve index will replace my rift for room scale stuff. Thanks for video

same

never heard of the XTAL, enlighten me please

Mostly excited for knuckles release.

It's out, it's good, but the resolution could be higher imo. On the other hand, the Index focus is on gaming so

@@RabbitConfirmed I would imagine index is worse due to 1440x1600 and same LCD subpixel layout

@@cr4zyw3ld3r BUT, the Index has 120hz or 144hz refresh rate. Which is a first.

@@NarwhalGamingTV this is true, but in the case of either headset you need an epic rig to run these. My Vega FE cannot cope. Tested suggested that 1080TI does fine with the INdex in their hand on, but they seem to have played mostly low geometry games. So time will tell.

build it your self 😂 industry seems to not care about us

Yep, spot on. The tracking is not good enough to compete with the other devices. Microsoft should not abandon the VR market yet. They made it to 10% and more on Steam which is not bad. They should refine their products with more cameras etc. For the Rift S halo, I heard you can actually smush it onto your face pretty good, so it wont wobble as much.

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1CpXIRdYHIg.html it will cost u

Basically gone

@@tested Nice

It's not HTC Knuckles, it's Valve's.