None of the above, I think she truly believes she's doing something great and the nay-sayers simply lack the vision to see it. I'm sure her hugbox echo chamber reinforces this daily.
And she knows that she'll be forever known as the one who road the coattails of men far more talented than her and she ruined their legacies with her dumb agenda crap.
agreed, although to be honest I never liked Star Wars anyways, not even the original three, I'm really more upset about the pathetic woke state of Star Trek, that's something I actually care about.
She was an elite fixer that got shit done for SS and Lucas. She sucks from a creative angle and clearly has mental health issues but she was clearly good at what she did and spot on for having aboard as part of a production team.
@domanskikid Spielberg himself even said, "She's really good....... at interrupting meetings!" I'm sure that when her ideas started to make the rounds, someone was bound to have said, "The Feminine odour is strong with this one!"
they can get away with anything, seriously. Take your home and children with just uttering you put your hands on her, they don't need evidence. Most men have zero chance in this modern world, we are like dogs now.
Now as i grow older and everything around me is just falling apart, slowly, this statement holds the perfect truth as to the why that has plagued modern cinema
I never got the whole Tolkien middle earth, men with pointy ears thingy (the only dudes with pointed ears I accept in my entertainment are Spock & Eddie Munster) however with such a brilliant quote I feel it is my duty to watch Peter Jackson's Award winning "Lord of the Rings" trilogy.
@@eeddieedwards3890 This is not what Tolkien ever said. The real quote is quite different. `No, they eat and drink, Sam. The Shadow that bred them can only mock, it cannot make: not real new things of its own. I don't think it gave life to the orcs, it only ruined them and twisted them; and if they are to live at all, they have to live like other living creatures. Foul waters and foul meats they'll take, if they can get no better, but not poison. They've fed me, and so I'm better off than you. There must be food and water somewhere in this place.' `But there's no time to look for them,' said Sam
Never too late. Retcon 7-9 and all that other crap as an alternate universe, the Indiana Jones movie as a bad dream Indy’s successor was having, and release a Star Wars movie that isn’t Mary sue and member berries and Lucas Film will be successful again in no time
@@ling0s138 Not under anyone who takes Blackrock's money, or promotes the ESG and DEI nonsense that DESTROYED all American entertainment companies, driving us towards Japanese and Korean films, TV shows, video games, and comic books.
Simple enough fix. You pick a new head of Lucasfilms, someone from outside and cite the need to move in a new direction. That person creates and couple of new departments within Lucasfilms and brings in more people from outside to work on some new projects. You let the existing teams there work on new ideas and if they're garbage you just don't green light them. The new teams probably have a few good ideas that do get the go ahead. A year or so down the track the new teams are being productive and getting stuff made, however most of the old teams ideas aren't going anywhere. So you announce layoff, and those layoffs happen mostly in the old KK hired teams. You can also do things like create positions, for example move people to the new Ryan Johnson trilogy. Then 6 months down the track, you pull the plug on that and let go the people attached to it.
Dirty Harry said it best...alot can happen to a turd..."It can be scraped off the ground with a shovel....or it can dry up and blow away with the wind....or it can be stepped on and squashed! So be careful where the dogsh!ts you!!"
The most terrifying picture that Hollywood has ever seen. Was Natalie wood, sitting at the head of the table, surrounded by the best of Hollywood. And Kathleen Kennedy, was nowhere in the picture. Because she was busy..... Getting George Lucas and Steven spielberg.... Their coffee.
˝Give me the power to issue moving picture media and I care not for the fans and or the laws of any franchise˝ Kathleen "Bauer/heksagram on a red shield" Kennedy
If her ideas were any good, she would have made her own movies instead of riding the bandwagon. It is something in her character, that she looks down on these geniuses and somehow thinks she is in the same league. Or probably that she is better than they are, and that only The Patriarchy kept her down. Sheer F@cking Hubris.
She proved you could take the easiest layup in the world, with a huge built-in fanbase, with a wealth of already written IP to utilize, leading into pandemic with billions literally nothing to do but consume content. With all these advantages you can still snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, and ruin a billion dollar media empire. Its actually impressive.
@@HenriFaust Even before the woke infestation she was bad at her job. There's a clip of Spielberg talking about how she was terrible at taking notes and would interrupt with bad ideas.
I work part-time as a home health aide, and a few weeks ago, I was kicked off 2 different cases in 2 DAYS. And you know what? The OWNER of the COMPANY told me to my face, that it wasn't anything I did. It wasn't my fault! What a rare, wonderful thing to be told by someone in charge. WTF is this Kathleeen Kennedy doing to KEEP holding on when clearly, IT'S ALL her fault?????
Nope. The whole upper tier of the movie biz is stacked with ideological drones and one less will not matter. She will be replaced by worse -- up-and-coming "creative" people are even more woke and weird.
Worse than that. Driving them all apart, making Han and Luke pariahs, blaming one for breaking up a marriage and the other for turning Ben evil. Pretty much burned down all the wonder and good feels in the original 3 movies and blamed the evil white guys for it. Leftists love to destroy families, whether on screens or real life. They love obliterating anything pure to push their agenda. What a shit story line for a once great franchise. And then the various dumpster fires that came after, like Acolyte.
This was, imho, the most colossal fail under her tenure. We were only going to have ONE chance to have all three of them back together for a new trilogy and the sequel trilogy is what we received. It's depressing.
The abysmal D-Trilogy, I put behind me. I was naive, and I thought they could improve in time. With Mando, I thought it was a nice change of pace, and with season 2, I was mostly entertained, more so at the end. But then I suffered to finish the Book of Boredom Fett, but Kenobi was right around the corner. Surely they couldn't get this wron-- Oh, they got it very wrong. By that point, Marvel was also floundering, the Live Actions were sharting out like so much diarrhea, and I decided to cut my ties to Disney. I watch the internet review and mock the releases that came afterwards, and I have not once regretted my decision to stop giving Disney money. I gave in for Deadpool, the honest reviewers of RU-vid were saying it was good, and I still want to support GOOD movies. But all the way up to its opening weekend, I sat on the fence, unsure if Disney would interfere and ruin it like all the other projects that they've pushed. But Star Wars.... I don't think I will come back. Not unless they actually give it to someone who wants to tell a good story, entertain the paying audience, and honor Lucas' legacy. But at long as she's there, even if they got George, himself, to direct just one more film, I would probably skip it: just to spite her and not give her the "win" she wants.
@@AgentSmith1991 I hear you my brother. We’ve all been betrayed and have awakened at different points to their defilements of our sacred legends and tales. For me, I saw the Farce Awakens in the theaters and was disgusted. It broke all the rules of good movie making. Just like back in the eighties and nineties, if a character was an instant expert at something they otherwise knew nothing of, it immediately broke your immersion and that movie was condemned to the trash heap. I should have known better but when the second one came out, the last Jedi or whatever, I still had some hope and I gave it the benefit of the doubt. I almost booed out loud and walked out of the theater that night and regret that I didn’t. No words can say. I turned my back on Disney and Star Wars ever since and will never go back no matter what and I’m glad everyone else is finally seeing it and doing the same. I honestly hope Disney goes bankrupt and we see a new era of creativity emerge from an underground grassroots movement free of the corruption that the industry has become, which is usually the case. Things go full circle. Keep seeking good entertainment my friends. It’s out there somewhere. Just don’t expect to find it in the house of mouse any longer.
Outside of the Internet, this is not an issue. Turn off the internet, all your cultural problems will go away. Go camping and fishing, go hunting. Don’t play any new games, play your old games and you’ll realize gee, what did I even care about in the first place? Seriously outside of the internet, the real world happens.
As crazy as it sounds, to conventional sensibilities, this may actually have been deliberate 'cultural defilement'. Yuri Bezmenov (ex-KGB) warned us (in the famous interview) that the Marxists will deliberately subvert and defile western culture from the inside, especially targeting youth, because it can't win a military or economic victory. Star Wars was perhaps THE most powerful and important piece of 'sacred mythos' that modern western society had, especially for young people, because we've rejected Christianity more and more. Joseph Campbell advised George Lucas on the hero's-journey themes and archetypes for the original 2 movies, which made them so special, and Campbell said in an interview with Bill Moyers that since Christianity is waning so badly for youth, the most impactful sacred mythos was Star Wars. That makes Star Wars the #1 target to defile and destroy, if you are trying to bring down the west through a long and ongoing campaign of cultural subversion. Take the most inspirational mythos and turn it into junk that no longer motivates people on an emotional-spiritual level. It's a huge demoralization, and is very powerful. By the way, we see the same dynamic with Star Trek, Lord of the Rings, etc. Is this really all just one big coincidence? I think it would be absurdly naive to think that these billion dollar corporations can't figure out how to produce something decent. Then start looking behind the scenes in these corporations, to see any patterns with who owns/runs them. See if there's any overlap with global Marxism and that group... Things get really dark really fast when you start to notice the patterns.
That's a ridiculous and unproven conspiracy theory, and it tries to reach way too far for an explanation whose answer is way simpler: she has not been fired because Disney's execs all APPROVE of her actions. They don't care about the company loosing money, they themselves are not and will never be affected by it, and they are fully committed to the propaganda, it doesn't matter how much it costs.
An insane, unprudent, drunk person would much rather be known, than unknown. Even if what they're known for is heinous acts of cultural defiling, -to them it's still better than no one knowing they exist.
Perhaps you have not met women yet. Their greatest accomplishments are destroying the accomplishments of men. They lack the capacity to invent new ideas themselves so all that's left for a woman writer is to "deconstruct" or "reframe" something a more talented man created for her.
Will it? People will still remember the drek that is Disney Wars. A lot of formerly rabid fans now couldn't possibly care less about Star Wars - they have the pre-Disney stiff and that's all they want and need. And we're a lot older now, a lot more cynical. It would take something very spectacular to even START getting us back onboard now. It would have to be better storytelling than the OT, and better special effects than the PT/ST, and even then it probably wouldn't get everyone back. Add in that the newer generations regard Star Wars as a joke franchise, and I don't see how it can ever rise to the heights even of the ST.... much less the runaway success of the OT.
@@anothercat1300 I don't think they'll ever recover. How many franchises of the sixties and seventies even made it this far? A half-dozen at most? The rest burned to the ground never to see the light of day beyond syndicated reruns. That's all Lucasfilm will be good for going forward.
@@andrewszigeti2174 I dunno, I loathe almost everything that has been done to star wars in the past decade, but if they put someone competent in charge who respects the source material and announce a new trilogy directed by someone like Denis Villeneuve, Nolan, or even Spielberg or Cameron, I'd instantly get excited for the redemption of my most beloved childhood universe.
The real problem with KK is that she doesn't learn from her successes: Rogue One, Mandalorian, and Andor. Rogue One had a female lead and her crew was multicultural. Mando's boss (The Armorer) is a strong female character everyone loves. Andor had strong female and multicultural characters. No one complains about these being "woke". I wonder why. 🤔
Frankly those characters are all shit. Those movies are shit. Disney is shit. Hollywood is shit. I don’t care about multicultural, I want to see a good film. God forbid we take a chance on anything original, or even worse something that may offend!! Cowards!!!!!
@@JimElek that's just an ok movie, in a sea of trash. Like 'Joker' (2019) which was praised as the greatest movie, because movies nowadays are so bad. Go watch the OG Conan the Barbarian, Alien (1979), Godfather 1, Citizen Kane etc to remember what cinema used to be like. What quality movies are like - movies you cannot forget.
Not one scene with Carrie, Harrison, and Mark in the same room. Hundreds of millions of dollars available but they couldn’t figure out how to make that happen.
That was a crime and crying shame. On that alone, anyone else would've been fired. It showed her incompetence when she just let Rian Johnson have free reign and didn't even TRY to fix it.
Interesting. I posted a message here earlier. I guess someone didn't like it. Let me try again: It's done on purpose. De-throne and humiliate the old heroes. Dismantle the cultural symbols. Uproot the values that we used to look up to. "Chaos is a ladder," to quote pop culture.
I find it even funnier that the number actually INCREASES over time instead of decreasing. Instead of their investment taking longer than they wanted to pay off it's just been a money black hole sucking more and more money into it.
As someone who worked in Hollywood for two decades, I can assure you people like her absolutely rule the industry, and they’re spread everywhere from top to bottom.
The only way to spread the message is to put it in stuff that people who don't wanna hear the message will bring their children to watch. She is far from incompetent , she was able to milk it until it died!
I have two conflicting opinions: 1: she was incompetent but saw a chance to "SPREAD THE MESSAGE" and jumped, not caring to try and get better. 2: she was pissed at George and Steven after years of fetching coffee, and who knows what else 😉, that in the end those two married someone other than her and she was bitter about not having the cushy retirement fund she dreamed of not having to do ACTUAL work for. This shit show for the last decade was the scorned woman's revenge.
The postmodern communist wants a cultural revolution. The last Jedi said it best: “let the past die, kill it if you have to” They don’t want the old world to be remembered.
South Park already on Kathleen: Put a chick in it and make her lame and GAY! lol, Matt and Tray already got her on their burner and I doubt they'll let her off after the shit she's pulled
Kathleen Kennedy's legacy will be her portrayal in the South Park episode, plain and simple. In 30 years people would otherwise forget who exactly ruined Star Wars and Indiana Jones, but Kathleen Cartman saying "put a chick in it and make her lame and gay" will forever tie that woman's name to the downfall of Lucasfilm.
@@damionkeeling3103 I would think people would still care. Even if new material is never released, the original film and series are cultural icons. The original is in the National Film Registry.
Indiana Jones was ruined earlier by Spielberg and Lucas already with that Crystal Skull stupidity. South Park made an episode about how they raped Indy. old Indy should NOT have been milked for money at all. also the Star Wars prequels, they were watchable, but lets say uneven quality. (moreover, the third of the original trilogy was also pretty weak.) Lucas was good in putting his childhood dreams into movies, and Spielberg always had a knack for gripping the emotions of the audience. they made fantastic things in their career, but they are not flawless gods, especially Lucas. of course none of this saves the uninspired fail-train that was driven by Kennedy. Lucas created some really big hits before he started grinding them down. for KK it is just the latter.
Doesn't matter. KK could die tomorrow and Star Wars will still be dead with her. Indiana Jones will always be corroded (it's well beyond tarnished) by Dial of Destiny. And the less said about Willow the better. Nothing can change that.
The way I see it, the Sequel Trilogy became not a continuation of the story told by George Lucas, but rather a horrifically bad retelling of the Original Trilogy, orchestrated by Kathleen Kennedy to replace Luke Skywalker as the Jedi to rebuild the order with a female character who was ridiculously overpowered with no faults, who even stole the Skywalker name for herself at the end of the ninth film. They did also employ a group of people who did not have a proper story mapped out. JJ Abrams stayed true to form, re-imagining A New Hope with The Force Awakens. Rian Johnson attempted to deconstruct the mythology and subvert expectations with The Last Jedi (and it was poorly executed). Then they dumped Colin Trevorrow from the ninth film and replaced him with Abrams who retconned and course corrected what Johnson had done and it all left things in a giant mess that should be wiped from existence.
@@MephiticMiasma JJ Abrams was left to come up with a comical reason for Snoke's existence, by saying that he was just a clone created as a figurehead for the First Order while Darth Sidious/Emperor Palpatine was pulling the strings behind the scenes, having "somehow returned" after being thrown to his death by Anakin Skywalker in the second Death Star's reactor shaft.
It is just sad. A glorified coffee girl who got to put her name on the work of geniuses for 50 years and was given the keys to an unkillable franchise that she killed. She is not a creative and shouldn’t be in charge of anything that requires creativity.
Irreparable damage has been done under Kennedy's tenure. Decisions at the helm have undoubtedly led to loss of fandom and reduced the value of iconic franchises. It's painful to witness the decline.
@@KeironGM Not the most savvy when it comes to this. Is that what happens in the expanded universe? At any rate, simply adapting any of the EU should've been a license to print free money, and that's another horrible aspect of Kathleen Kennedy that I don't think gets near enough traction: she actually had the gall to whine about not having a source material to draw from....... after she herself completely voided the EU, thereby making almost 4 decades' worth of supplemental storylines invalid.
@@KeironGM Nope. Sorry. You should instead make a movie yourself. There's no saving a corporate entity, all it does is crash, burn, and take people with it.
Episode lll was a complete redemption of George Lucas, it was the epic apotheosis… on the other hand, Disney trilogy finished on one absolute failure, episode 9 is absolutely mess and doesn’t feel star wars, completely forgettable, disrespecting everything made before, I can barely remember it and doesn’t want to remember this mountain of bs
*Except Andor. But I get an extremely strong vibe she had nothing to do with Andor. There's a complex multidimensional male main character and we all know she absolutely cannot allow that to ever exist.
@@twelvecatsinatrenchcoatAndor is so boring as a character and show, I seriously don't remember what happened in S1. I also don't care, he was the exact same in Rogue One. There I can at least remember how they wasted Mads Mikkelsen's talents. Everything featuring Andor is just a pointless prequel. The actor was great in Narcos: Mexico, not blaming him.
If she's smart she'll leave after Andor S2 since that show avoided being garbage. But most likely she thinks the Mandalorian movie will be her swan song after all the grogu merchandise they sold
@@joshlee7935 I really hate when people say this crap. I can understand why some people didn't like Prometheus, as they enjoyed the mystery behind the xenos... but why wouldn't you want a young Han Solo movie / trilogy? The problem was just that he was horribly miscast and the movie wasn't good.
More like a massive relief for every fan and movie goer, and she knows that. She wants to stick around to continue trolling everyone as long as she can.
The clip of Nicolas Cage covered in blood with a bottle of booze wailing in tears sitting on the toilet in his underwear (2:22) is the only thing I've ever come across that conveys how I feel inside about what's been done to Star Wars 💩☠
She must have been a hell of a sociopath to have lied enough long enough to Spielberg and Lucas to make them think she DIDN’T despise them and everything they had created. The minute she was on her own with their blessing she took a wrecking ball to everything they made.
Were they that blind or did they have something held over them that would ruin them forever? It's really unfathomable that people this untalented and uncreative could have held on so long, they've succeeded completely at producing high school level fanfiction and ruining multiple billion dollar franchises.
@@HermannTheGreat I don't know about Lucas, but I know there is a reason the girl from Jurassic Park retired from acting and won't speak about her time making that movie preferring to forget all about it. We were warned about Spielberg by a man who is no longer with us.
The CEO’s job is to create shareholder value. How is this level of incompetence even allowed? They are actively losing out on billions to prove some ignorant point.
Have you even noticed how the business community operates? CEOs have routinely gotten performance bonuses even after running their own companies into the ground. Not just in entertainment, but many industries. Big Three automakers who crashed out and then begged for government bailouts got bonuses. Aerospace firm "leaders" who took companies with decades of building top-tier civilian & military jets, and trashed them to the point where everything they build is no longer airworthy, got bonuses. Shipbuilders cranking out hugely expensive vessels that can never be used for their intended purposes got bonuses. Banks that squeezed poor customers for every possible dollar but then played fast & loose with their own money and imploded still got bonuses. You think Kathleen Kennedy is not just as much part of that Old Boys Network, and be just as allowed to walk away counting her money in slo-mo while the Star Wars franchise burns down in the background? This is capitalism, get used to it. It is all about the elite swindling the people and getting away with it, about them laughing at how society are suckers taught to hope history works like like Star Wars, when really it is a story so bleak and cynical it makes Goodfellas seem like a warm-hearted comedy.
@@wyldhowl2821 That behaviour is Epsteiner behaviour, and ought to be described as such. They(Epsteiners) will call you a nazi, only fair to rip their masks off and apply their family name to their family ;)
It's not capitalism and I'm tired of explaining that. It's corporatism which is an broken system born from lack of control and maintenance over capitalism @@wyldhowl2821
"How is this level of incompetence even allowed?" Man, that is definitely a question for WB Discovery's CEO because holy shit, I cannot fathom how he's still in his position with all the fumbles made under his watch.
Boggles the mind that Disney would spend billions of dollars to buy SW, give her the keys and then watch her crash the IP in ground again and again and again and again for 10 years until there is literrally nothing left to crash
Disney approved of her 'message' and was willing to spend billions to do it. But now even Disney's coffers are running low, so they can't keep it up much longer.
@@RoddHarding nope, many people believe that she's got some serious dirt on her superiors, which is how she's still in the movie industry. (For example: the marvels cost 280 million dollars, and didn't have any cgi stuff as intensive as the avengers 1, which just had a budget of 220 million dollars and was significantly longer, so many believe that disney is doing money laundering.)
The thing about quitting while you're ahead is, well, you actually have to be ahead. With KK it's more a case of quite before you embarrass yourself any more.
The only explanation is that she has serious dirt on some key people. Even with the cultural backlash Disney might face for firing a woman there’s no other logical justification for her to continue as she has.
The actual Tolkien quote is "The Shadow that bred them can only mock, it cannot make: not real new things of its own." What you quoted is from TVTropes attributed to Tolkien (although it does describe the same thing).
@@HerbaMachina True, but they have revenue from many other sources to pilfer, plus the back door money to ensure that "The MESSAGE" is shoe horned into every film and series. We see through it, but what chance does a 7-year-old child have against this propaganda?
0:10 I can't believe you didn't take the opportunity to say "for one to be unburdened by what has been" here. It was a perfect setup. I'm not mad, just disappointed.
He could have said "You know sharks, they're really, you know they say they're really bad. We don't like sharks you know they're scary, sharks are scary, really scary. Say you're on a boat, a boat with an electric motor. You're on a boat and the boat is like sinking, you're on a boat and it's sinking. What is it with electric motors? You know wherever I go and there's electric motors people say to me, "you know it's awful Mr President, really bad with these electric......... The boat is sinking and there are these sharks..........We don't like sharks...............
Aren't you setting the bar a little too high? A movie that doen't make you hate everyone associated with it would already be outstanding for Lucasfilm.
At this point even if Disney reverses course noone should support them. They have already shown their intentions, if they try to con you into believing they have changed and you are foolish enough to fall for it then I have a bridge to sell you!
Not really. On paper, there was every reason, and really no excuse, for Star Wars to be bigger than it ever had been. KK's credentials really do stretch back, but more than anything, it goes to show that credentials don't mean you'll be a good executive. I can't know for certain from where I'm standing, but if I were to bet on anything, it would be that KK secretly despised everyone she worked with, and played a masterful long con of going along to get along until she could destroy everything those men had built up over decades.
@c3bhm Walt Disney’s antisemitism has been grossly exaggerated. He was no more prejudiced than what many would call “the norm” back then and also hired Jewish animators when others wouldn’t. He wasn’t Charles Lindbergh or Henry Ford.
I have to disagree. I think she had a very good head for the business side of the industry (raising funds, organizing, casting, project managing - the wheeling and dealing that keeps the industry going) but she's never had the creative talent. In her current role, her lack of creative instincts are clearly on show. I believe she wants to be seen as a mentor and cultivator of the next generation of talent, but she doesn't really get young people and thinks just being an outspoken liberal is all it takes to be down with the kids. To quote Steve Buscemi, "Hello fellow kids".
No thanks, I dont want to be considered sexist for refusing to drink pink, glittery and somehow smells like rotting moldy underwear "coffee" she made after she leaves
de-canonize 7 8 9, the acolyte and the other disney SW, hand the creative reigns over sam whitwer and favreu. Then maybe 50% of the fanbase would return and forgive the last 10 years.
Now you're getting it. It's a Disney culture issue. KK just salutes. Disney's brand has DEI'd Star Wars, KK just followed orders. You think she's bad? You're right, when she's gone, the connection to Lucas will be gone. The new DEI President of Lucasfilm will have no loyalty or connection, just to the Disney corporate agenda. KK is just being a good soldier, Disney has wanted this to align SW with DEI, you've seen a similar move with Star Trek in recent years.
@@xitaris5981 You reach a point beyond rage and all that remains is apathy. She can stay however long she wants and you won’t care about the non-entity she has become.
I think they went to late shows to announce it, her and George Lucas. I remember them at the Colbert Report saying she was supposed to _"take care of the franchise .. keeping the flame alive "_ . Lucas had just made the deal with Disney. Maybe she misunderstood what George meant by _"take care of it"_
