hank pym vs LOKI 

True and how so many Fury's showed up or how he survived that many "STINGS"

He did actually love his brother even if he wasn't great at showing it.

@@pugtie4695 totally.... Like the part where he tried to get him killed by tricking Odin into taking his powers away and then sending the terminator to kill him and everyone he told about the truth... And he did that because he was jealous.

@@thephoenix4093 Thor: he is adopted.

You can actually tell when he goes "Her mother was an agent?" something Loki wouldn't know but Fury would.

Tbf, most of his kills were from Hank himself being smart enough to find solutions to kill beings like the Hulk.

@@Secretary_Pal Most of what he did was something anyone might have tried if they had the tech. All he did was go inside their bodies and mess with something important.

@@Secretary_Pal honestly only the hulk kill needed intelligence to pull off

@@BobThePenguin. That was also partly a scenario of writers dumbing down things to make it possible to kill the hulk, they pretty much turned the Hulk into some DeviantArt inflation popping artwork where they just disappear into thin air, in reality what would of happened is all his blood vessels would of swollen and popped through out his body, but overall he would still be alive, hell they made the hulk's skeleton pretty much disappear just for the sake of that, like wth do people think would happen to the skeleton in scenarios like that, even if we consider blood potentially getting into the bones the bones would of had to be the last things to explode, and even then the Hulk has a healing factor on par, if not better than Wolverine's and has been showcased to be able to recover from being reduces to almost nothing but a skeleton.

@@funkmantim2661 He wouldn’t be alive you idiot the Hulk’s heart exploded, even a being as powerful as the hulk can’t survive that, the only reason wolverine can survive is his healing factor which Hulk doesn’t have Hulk has Regenerative skills and insane endurance but even that can kill him

Something about stress

evil never sleeps :(

@@kushorises9871 sleep is for the weak lol

evil don't wash their face

@@sithwolf8017 what about odin-sleep

He actually still is in that timeline

Also pym gave him all the evidence he needed to say he was right to send an army to Earth and take it over

Loki perhaps has triggered hank to do this

He ends up ruling the Earth.

I don't think someone as shrewd as Fury would ever trust Loki enough to make him an Avenger.

I dunno, remember that conversation between Nick and Loki in the first Avengers? Nick: "Why did you kill my agents?" Loki: "Why do you step on ants?"

That and perhaps he still sees Thor as his brother.

Hank said Thor's death was a 'favor'...to Loki probably? Maybe Loki was pulling the strings all along since he ended up using Thor's death as an excuse to invade Earth in this episode.

@@AlwaysSomeone that's not normal loki tho remember he was being influenced by the mind stone

I think Loke does want to kill his brother earlier in the movies, but it's that weird "nobody kills you but me" thing. I know it sounds petty and selfish but well, this is Loki we are talking about.

and the fact that you could tell he was mad when mentioning him killing thor

Hellooo trickster god Hi

I hate it bro I Loki season 2 about to ruin it his character

@@MrTytyjohn64this is a different loki

Why didnt loki kill him

Please let's not destroy the "Perfect" likes

I mean he's Jotun, but that's about as impressive so your point still stands.

He was a frost giant first and also shows how much loki doesn't try in the main mcu

The loki series says otherwise.

@@okand6770 its not like he doens't try, he's just not that strong in mcu, this version of him is clearly buffed in comparation with MCU

Yea it was funny the way he said everyone's name but uses Thor's prince title when he'd probably be called Thor Odinson

The writers knew he was Loki the whole time so why would they ever try to make him sound like fury😭 you special

@@mankiller7023 … I think you’re a little young to be on here. Lol. The hints are for the audience; they’re little clues for us to figure it out before the reveal. It has nothing to do with the writers knowing or not.

Right?!

I also saw it as it was fury for thr first half of the fight and just saying the names like that to get under hank's skin to get a real confession outta him. And then after that smoke screen it was loki.

😂😂Right, But Loki is always destined to lose no matter what universe he’s in. He might’ve enjoyed his little short lived glory that he received in this universe for avenging his brother, but in the end, he’ll always falter for underestimating how powerful humans can be because of his superiority complex and arrogance for seeing humans beneath him.

@@SSJBlueVegito * Cough not same universe

@@Life-vt8yi *cough, who cares cough*.

@@SSJBlueVegito *cough I care cough*

@@SSJBlueVegito Even assuming butterflies, Loki has like, a decade, tops, before Thanos wakes up feeling particularly snappy one day.

favor of who? did you ever thought about that?

@@muhammadshurenshah2928 favor to shield ofc, at this point thor is still unknown wether he's good or bad and shield was investigating mjolnir too in that moment

@@bellaqua4324 No, they did not know who thor was, he means a favour to the world, it doesn't need another hero, like he said more or less

Yes it's trying to convey a message without outright telling people what's what. Visual story telling ya know.

I mean strange ate demons 24/7 for ten thousand years, I would hope he'd look a little fatigued

@@unoriginalhazard Yep

@@andrewphillips4681 Yeah but after he’s done absorbing them he still looks normal but I guess maybe it could’ve happened while he was looking for Strange

@@talkingben3332 he gets worse over the montage slowly Plus it's a dark area he's in

nah he's the FURY

He is senior Agent, that's why he always have plan.

U do realize he didn't actually do anything here

@@alexandercacaveo302 Who said he didn't do anything ? Nick Furry manipulate all super hero to become superhero

@@LatenightDev ur slow

Perhaps he is the wrong hands.

​​@@TheGoldNinja101Watcher: In a couple of universes, yes.

Just watch the boys 💀

his show was a travesty to the character

@@leojs5673 It was not

@@mr.magpie2 copium "it was not"

@@LonkiDonki You cope, it was not

@@mr.magpie2 thr show humanized him more but it also made him a pathetic loser

Check a few other comments It says that nick fury didn't know know she was an agent

@@benedictcorpuz5582 nah that's loki, fury would've went through shield history records all the way to the start of shield.

My dad died

@@Polymerata sorry for your loss.

@@Polymerata k

@@Polymerata lol

@@Polymerata cope+ratio

Isnt President Loki supposed to be this one?

They could've really maximized what Loki can do in his own series, they really dropped the ball on him in his show

@@The-Deadite loki takes place before this ffs...

@@The-Deadite nah he was a clown

@@gbozzi05_ Loki doesn’t take place at any point in time.

Wait, until you grow up...

@@BaronMartin not helping

ant man tech screws with your head. plus with his daughter dead, what little sanity he had snapped. once he put the yellow jacket on, his brain likely broke further

@@TheSimmr001 true

Hank Pym is mentally unstable, thats why his Yellow Jacket persona & Ultron (who's based on his brain in the comics) are messed up...

How did loki even take everything from hank?

@@benedictcorpuz5582 he thought it was fury

TBF, its Nick Fury, the dude may have learned someone was coming for him and given himself some super serum or something.

My guess is he never fought him before so athleticism like that is odd but not something to get suspicious about.

Ikr?

Different universe but yeah.

​@@justincummings8557 Even in universe, the TVA was incredibly crippling to Loki

@@goldbyrd3667 true

i'm guessing higher budget cause live-action moves are much more costly. also I remember watching Black Widow in What If, and the moves she pulled was inhuman, like she has superpower agility.

Because Loki demanded that he get the one who killed Thor

@@ravecrazeglitch2360 oh that's great I mean I wonder what Odin would do to hank pym maybe like kill him

@@greenlantern4486 Odin was dead, with Thor not returning Loki basically became the new king of Asgard. Loko was although mad at Hank for killing Thor because deep down somewhere he still loved his brother.

@@Vampire00974 wasnt in that universe, where loki still went loco as usual cuz he is the god of mischief and attacked the shield ship in the end of what if

@@RGINYT yes, the universe we see at the end of what if is that universe. IIRC The Watcher sent the Black Widow from the universe with Ultron-Vision to that universe as a sort of thanks for helping him defeat Ultron-Vision

Also he participated in a Doctor Seuss cartoon

He was soft,just that,he cares about thor at that exact moment,i believe

Well the only fights that he does in avengers on his own is against shield in the start and against hulk. Shield wasn’t prepared for Loki to attack, and he started controlling the agents with the mind stone. Hulk on the other hand, whooped Lokis ass. Thanos whooped hulks ass, so it’s natural that Loki wouldn’t win that fight. When he attacked jotunheim he only got a few of the giants by tricking them off cliffs with illusions.

Well, while Loki is very strong, you gotta understand that most of his fights are with superior strength foes. Hulk, Thor, Thanos, all physically stronger than Loki. The only other person who attempted to challenge Loki to a fight was Captain America and Capt almost lost if Iron Man hadn't shown up. Even then, Loki intentionally threw the fight so he could get captured and learn the location of their Helicarrier. Against a human, Loki is like a full grown man beating up a 5 year old.

@@Netherwolf6100 also Loki could've killed Valkyrie in Ragnarok when he showed her that memory and she was in a trance

Yeah for a GOD OF MISCHIEF he rarely does any mischief, you'd think with his powers he will never actually be there physically and his actual self will always be invisible. Even Misterio looks more like a trickster god than the trickster god does.

Lmao same thing with Good Guy Thanos in episode 2.

We... kinda had it? I'm not entirely sure bute either President Loki was this Loki or Hiddleston based this Loki to make his performance of President Loki

@@KanaidBlack ya

Or in the Avengers movie

@@thomasgarfield6108 Wdym in avengers 1 Loki was so close conquer the earth until the missile destroyed chittori main ship

@@thomasgarfield6108 people just make there own things and does not understand that this Loki is different than our 616 Loki like thanos was different in what if series than in infinity war plzz first understand the whole thing then comment

What about the 70s and 80s?? I thought he's the original.

He was also the original giant man, and original something else not sure what

finally someone

I do love this episode, however the Doctor Strange episode was so good that I would say it is better

@@joshuajasper5844 that one was really good too

This one was my favorite too with Doctor Strange at a extremely close second

Is it really too much to ask for Loki to have the ability to fly and shoot lasers out of his fingers. Or at least a competent fight scene for our defeater of captain America.

Loki was able to beat a 70 year old man here so that's about average for him. Honestly, I'm confused at how Pym lost. It's also weird the guy only ever has his shrink gadgets when it's convenient for the plot. "Yeah, we know Yellowjacket usually comes with a shrink ray, it's why Darren Cross started with one, but we also know it's too OP, which is why he didn't have it for long."

aaaaand now we do

@@holyjolias3229 I'm glad thats is how it turned out 😁

@@shroom3074 This is still the MCU though, just yet another variant.

How did Hank know that nick was going to recruit Thor

@@t_dexyo1361 Because Hank knew Nick recruits powerful people. He knew he was going to recruit Tony, and Banner, and Romanov because of their skills, same way Nick recruited his daughter. So when a "god" lands on earth, Hank can make the educated guess that Nick would also try to recruit him

...and amazing plot twist

Here, his physicals are amazing.There he could barely punch,resorting more and more to magic

Yeah, I actually like how this episode remembered that Loki is physically stronger than any human, I feel like the writers have forgotten that.

I think to some degree it is due to Loki in his show being constantly thrown into situations where he's entirely out of his element or in other words not in control. On the other hand the one time he was fighting actual humans that weren't TVA was on a train while drunk, however given that he is a viking god you'd think that he'd be better at bar fights.

@@thegoodhunter3707 Why would he have bar fights ? He is a prince

@@dipromandal1072 well, his brother is indeed one of the biggest drunkards so loki surely wouldve been in many bar fights, i mean atleast in asgard

I can see that

If Marvel played this right, they could make What If scenarios forever.

I’m stupid never mind

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Uh.

Wait this isn't Loki, isn't this ant man

No it's Dr. Strange

And STILL managed to stomp Hank

No, this actually took place after Loki was told he was adopted. Loki finding out he was a Frost Giant happened before Thor's banishment to Earth and his argument with Odin in the vault was right after that. Thor was killed much later.

Why are people saying that?

​@@name_0178he got beat by a mind controlled regular big dude.

TVA Loki said it himself, he had no idea how powerful he actually was. In What if, there was a different timeline. Thus, in those he would be aware, have motivation, and so on.

@@Ikajo so maybe in season 2 of Loki we will see Loki's full potential

@@scoobz4177 Hopefully 😊 Though I'm happy enough to see Loki as a hero

Goldilocks?

I don't think that SHIELD recruited Cap around this point

Cap was still in ice, this is already shown at the end of the episode.

Cap was still in ice

Cap still on ice in that episode. But in last episode we can see him fighting with Chitauri army alongside with Captain Marvel

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