Hanni made a GREAT point ...... 'Evolution' ...... in her drawing, whats BEFORE the dinosaurs ? its MICRORGANISMs that 'evolve' to living creatures (e.g. lizards, early MAMMALS) ... microganism did not evolve into EGGS ! hahaha
@@Dino-pk5hc genetic coding happens in the egg stage not in the organism stage, which means animals gain their evolutionary trains while they were still writing their genetic make up which means the egg came first as adaptation happens in an organism's egg stage
@@Dino-pk5hc they do harden, some eggs are soft like that of platypuses but eggs come out hard the only thing they need to be kept warm some dont even need warmth
its not its fact. dinosaurs dont turn into chickens over night. it took millions of years of evolution and selective breeding for chickens to be made. a wolf wont become a dog overnight. wolves are still wolves. because humans selectively bred them over thousands of years, their offspring got more and more tame and obiedient every few generations until we got modern day dogs today same with chickens, we domesticated wild birds, bred them to get advantagous features, and their eggs that they lay every few generations eventually changed their features until we got chickens its the egg that came first
No cus Dani is right, the chicken probably originated from those bird species of dinosaurs, which then laid EGGS and through the eggs came a furry small tiny creature called chickens, so originally it’s probably egg
@@picklerick5521yea, I have seen that Minji finds dani annoying just cuz she's enthusiastic all the time and there's nothing wrong with it, some people just can't tolerate vibrant and outgoing people.
Dani being right or wrong (hell, Hanni too) all relies on the question itself being purposefully ambiguous just for the sake of debate (and for the sake of this video's humour). It's by design. There's a reason why the question is "What came first, the chicken or the egg?" and not "chicken egg" specifically. For the record, Dani (and Haerin) is correct, the egg did come first. Animals that predate the dinosaurs were laying eggs millions of years before.
As a biologist, this argument is so funny, even though they are missing genetics and molecular evolution aspects. They are still hilarious; I'm a fan now
I know the other members speak varying degrees of English, but I wonder when Hanni and Danielle get into a rapid-fire discussion using more technical English words without their Korean pronunciations, how well do the other members follow along. Also it is funny as you can see the effect of how so much of Danielle's and Hanni's schooling having been in English that when they get into a debate on something in science they fall back almost exclusively on English because they probably lack some of the Korean words they need for certain subjects as their Korean is more conversational rather than scholarly at this point.
how did hanni learn korean? she is Vietnamese so she couldn't have learnt it from her parents. and even if they did take her to korean school, she's at a level that is almost unnoticeable that she is not korean. anyone know?
@logavix7778 Typically, trainees who don't speak Korean are assigned a one-on-one tutor they meet with regularly, or if there are several of them in the company, they may have classes for them led by an instructor. Learning Korean becomes part of their weekly or monthly evaluations. Most are highly motivated to learn Korean as instructions and feedback from their dance, singing, and other instructors are usually in Korean, and it can make you lag behind at evaluations if you didn't understand assignments or critiques. The fact Hanni spoke English helped as typically most companies have a couple of Korean trainees who speak some English and can help translate a bit in those first few weeks or months while you get basic Korean down.
@@kentvesser9484 She only became a trainee in what? 2020? Pretty awesome for her to have become at such a level in 3 years. But I can see what you mean. Thanks for that, was always curious there.
Hanni is the girl who has done her research before the debate and has come prepared. Danielle is the girl who we fear. She just knows the facts and is ready to crush all your arguments without having to state her own facts.
At some point during the long, slow process of evolution, something that was not quite a chicken laid an egg that WAS a chicken. So yes, the egg came first.
@@lotusrain4102 Yes, that's a good point. And I thought about it also. But what's the original question? Is it, 1: "What came first? The chicken or the chicken egg?" Or is it, 2: "What came first? The chicken or the egg?". The correct answer is: 2.
@@lotusrain4102 True. I guess that's why it's always been a question worth debating........there are variables in logic behind the answer(s) to the question!
If you guys are wondering what actually came first, its the egg. Eggs evolved over a billions years ago, while the chicken has been around for only about 10,000 years max.
@FreakyPlory yes but chickens are not dinosaurs that's like saying monkeys and humans are the same. Some avian dinosaurs share ancestral lineage to chickens like how we have similarities to primates but we are not monkeys and lemurs
@@freakyplory5721 The creature that denoted the change between the previous species and a 'Chicken' was unfortunately not a dinosaur, but a different 'between' species that had existed for hundreds of years between the two groupings of creatures
@@hermansnazzledorf2950 you're right, and it'd also be categorized as a bird (it's probably a kind of pheasant), not even a reptile (even though birds are all technically a branch of reptiles). anyways the important point is that a chicken can only come from a CHICKEN EGG. that's indisputable. whereas the first chicken eggs could have (indeed, must have) been laid by an animal other than a chicken (the direct ancestor of chickens). I think this is the argument Dani was trying to make.
? How is she disproving creationists in anyway? She’s just speaking from a perspective of an evolution believer herself. She didn’t say any facts to disprove anything
@@Fartsquad_ Because from micro-organisms came reptiles who laid eggs in water, who later laid eggs on land an from a selection of those evolutionized reptiles came dinosaurs and a from a species of these dinosaurs came the chicken who laid aforementioned egg.
It’s her third? I mean yeah ig so, if it’s languages she knows the basics of. But knowing her Vietnamese speaking abilities (coming from a Vietnamese) it seems very basic, but no hate to her. But the third language was unclear to me
@@azhnghao oh wow is her Vietnamese not that proficient? I've never heard her speak it, I just assumed since her family is from Vietnam. Maybe she spoke mostly English at home since they lived in Australia.
@@incarosen6343 I mean, she said herself that her Vietnamese wasn’t that good. But to me her Vietnamese was alright enough to have a small conversation but not good enough to be considered a second language. (Also sometimes I can’t understand her that well and that’s bc my viet is also partly broken but it’s getting better, but it’s also bc she’s from the North (Hanoi) and I’m from the South (Saigon) there is a difference between the both of them when they speak Viet. People from the North tend to speak with a heavier accent and or I’m just not used to speaking with people from the North. But also some of the words are way different so it’s hard to tell.)
The history of the debate about which came first between the chicken and the egg goes beyond human civilization. The reason is, the answer to this question can be traced from ancient times. Most biologists say unequivocally that the egg came first. This refers to the basic concept, namely the egg is just a female sex cell.
@@Ahurakaka2 The question you have just asked is "Which came first: Life, or the means of reproduction of said life?" Which the answer to is clearly Life from the available knowledge we have. This question is entirely separate in concept and answer to the 'Chicken or egg' question though,
the egg came first bc the chicken cant come out of no where, it mustve been smth like egg -> dinosaur -> egg -> baby dinosaur -> smaller dinosaur -> egg -> chicken, therefore the egg mustve come BEFORE the dinosaur/chicken
@@iamai_iggs idk 🤷🏾♀️ who do u think is the ancestor of the animal who laid that egg, it would make more sense for an egg to spawn rather than a fully grown dinosaur
But if the dinosaur layed an egg and a chicken came out of it that means the chicken came first Because the egg is not a chicken egg even though a chicken came out of it It's a dinasour egg cuz the dinasour was the one that layed the egg Right?
@hi did they specify the egg? if it was a dinosaur egg or a chicken egg? they were arguing if the egg or chicken came first, and the egg did come first, and the chicken can't pop out of a dinosaur it's a whole evolution process, egg -> dinosaur -> egg -> 25% chicken dino -> egg -> 50% chicken dino -> egg -> 75% chicken dino -> egg -> 100% chicken, so to get an actual chicken the " dinosaur " mustve been closer to a chicken than a dinosaur itself, it's hard to explain my points thru text but u get what i mean ( hopefully )
Since they were talking about a chicken and an egg I just assumed that they were talking about a chicken egg lol And yeah I get what you mean now idk what side I'm on lol
both of them are correct, i mean danielle's argument it's more structured and scientifically proved but hanni has her bases. chickens are the evolution of dinosaurs.
literally they were kinda saying the same thing 😭. bird type dinosaurs lay eggs, and over evolution and mutations, a chicken was hatched, So the egg came first!
Danielle should have won, her point was simple, bird type dinosaurs have already been laying eggs before the chicken existed, she could actually just have said dinosaurs laid eggs
She is wrong with the chicken coming first however she is right about chickens coming from dinosaurs but they weren’t the first thing on earth so Dani should be the winner
An egg still needs to exist in order for evolution to work, and for the offspring to pop out. And then after they pop out, they'll be more advanced. ANYWAYS, NEW JEANS IS GREAT, THEIR ALBUM IS SO GOOD.
danielle is kinda right though, dinosaurs were not the first "animals" on earth! first there were water organisms that evolved into prokaryotes and eukaryotes and then natural selection dictates the rest.
Sponges were among the earliest animals. While chemical compounds from sponges are preserved in rocks as old as 700 million years, molecular evidence points to sponges developing even earlier. Oxygen levels in the ocean were still low compared to today, but sponges are able to tolerate conditions of low oxygen
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The egg came first, as before eggs existed living things reproduced by splitting themselves apart. Now the first eggs didn't make chickens, but there was some transitional bird, very chicken-like, but not specifically a chicken, that produced the first eggs to have what we would recognize as a chicken hatch from them.
According to evolution, the first chickens hatched from eggs. The development of an animal (in an egg or in its mothers womb, depending on the species) depends on the DNA it receives from its parents genes. This DNA is "read" by these little organelles called ribosomes, and these ribosomes use the DNA as an instruction book for how to create certain proteins. These proteins create certain chemical reactions in different cells which basically guides an animal to grow into what it grows into. Evolution happens because, very rarely, DNA is mistranslated which makes very small changes in the proteins produced and the mistranslated DNA is then saved within the animals genes to be passed onto the next generation. If these changes help the animal survive more effectively or, especially, make it more likely to reproduce, then these changes will stay in that animals bloodline in the future. Evolution is the gradual accumulation of these changes over many generations until the present animal looks and sometimes even behaves nothing like its ancestor a million years ago. My point is the first chicken (the first animal that had every trait that characterizes a modern chicken) would have become a chicken because its DNA was mistranslated while it was in an egg layed by the most recent ancestral species to modern chickens. The egg came first.
For anyone wondering. Most likely answer is the Egg came before then chicken which comes before the chicken egg. A chicken "like" animal laid the eggs which had a protein mutation before hatching becoming the first chicken which then had the genetics to lay the first chicken egg.
there's 3 ways of seeing evolution, 1. the span of life, like a tadpole into a frog or a human growing taller with age, 2. an environment changing an animal over generations, like a certain breeds of snakes that once had legs, 3. drastic changes to a species over a very long period of time, like humans evolving from apes. 1 and 2 have been proven scientifically, but 3 is still yet a theory (i believe 3 because its plausible going off the fact that 2 is true and its just over a long period of time but it still haven't been proven scientifically)
