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CAN YOU PLEASE REVIEW PROMISE NEVERLAND PLEASE SEASON 2 I COMING UPP

Oh boy!

Drink some tea.

@@katherinealvarez9216 that racist

Ponzi for the win

That line made me audibly wheeze

Harold

Line of the year

The best line ever and needs to be said more often.

same, sis, same (they're terrific!)

More, please!

periodt

Literally same they were fantastic!

I wish the made out

RIGHT?!?!?!?!?! That just kinda got glossed over...

Jane must be protected at all costs!

She's weird, that's okay. She's true to herself, that's okay. Sure, she's a bit messed up, but as a human being: A-okay.

It’s such a chicken/egg situation! Did her family write her off because of her neuroses or does she have them because they always wrote her off??

@@eileensnow6153 I really didn’t think she was neurotic wtf. She’s just affectionate and unapologetically herself. Her family is image obsessed. That’s why she sticks out

She's actually a pretty good actress it's just she's been cast in roles that are shitty or been too repressed herself. She was enjoyable in Charlie's Angels (everyone gives it hate but it's cute and it gives me gay vibes)

@@oli_kate I loved her in Charlie’s angels even though I didn’t watch the full movie... But I’m in LOVE with Kristen.. And I agree about the gay vibes... This movie just made my Lesbian Panic go past 100...

She's a good actress and has so much natural charisma especially since coming out

Nice to see Kristin in a comedy; she should pursue this venue further.

@@oli_kate Yesss Charlie's Angels was so cute I would've loved it for Elena and Sabina to become a thing lol they had mad chemistry.

how did it go?

That took A TURN! Hope it went really well❤️

Facts. Abby deserve better. I’m questioning how their relationship started. I’m concerned.

@@cletusbeauregard1972 BADLY, but i think things are salvageable. thanks for asking!

@@bengi8907 i imagine they had a fated grocery store meeting. something like... harper: *carelessly cuts in front of someone in line at the grocery store* Abby: oh my god i'm in love i hope she treats me like that

Jane was my favorite character by far 😍

I DID NOT PICK UP ON HIM BEING A LITERARY AGENT BEING HOW JANE GOT HER BOOK PUBLISHED AND WHY THEY'RE TOGETHER IN EVERYTHING IN THE ONE YEAR LATER PART DIHWDKIDHWD

YES! I was just rooting for Jane and her book!

Jane absolutely earned her ending, and her book reading + signing (with John who is now her literary agent sitting right next to her!! and all her family present and proud of her!!!!?? we love to see it!!!) was the best part of the "One Year Later" epilogue.

And now Jane will be the sugar mommy keeping the whole ass ungrateful family alive, we love to see the tables turning

Yess!!!

Is it ok for a straight guy to be on team Harper(well really team Abby)? although I thought Riley was a really good friend above and beyond. Or is that weird?

@@TheChillimouse oh hell yeah dude ofc, you can be on either team and it’s not weird to do so, you’re just saying which character/thing you prefer from the movie. it’s all good 👍

Which is ironic because that franchise is more gayer than this movie.

I am on team Riley!

Mar Hulu: Here’s the lesbians getting married! Us: YES BUT DID JANE GET HER BOOK DEAL???

@@gingersnap189 Yes! And co-wrote it with Dan Levey’s character.

yeah they are LEGENDS

I know i love how even though it's a gay movie and kristen stewart is literally with a girl i was unsatisfied bc i wanted her to get with riley

@@nternetrat down here we're thinking to get someone good with T-Shirt design, we want a great T-Shirt saying Abby&Riley with pics, and wear them

She should have got with Aubrey Plaza! That’s the alternate ending I would have loved!

@@lauratheexplorer6390 agree.

@@lauratheexplorer6390 100%, Yeah it's one thing to not be out to her parents, but it's fucking another one entirely to lie to your partner than fake invite them to Christmas make and the entire thing uncomfortable for them. They played it up like Abby was in the wrong for being hurt and wanting to break up with her.

Hell yeah we would.

@@dottyorange7270 agree-plus Aucrys character was abetter fit for her as she was proud and comfortable in her choice...and its audry

Of course yes!!

It’s hard to being the middle child😢

Facts!! I was getting so upset over how they were treating her! They were more confident with the kids than with her

Absolutely adored her!

She was so cute. I was so pissed when they ruined her painting. My heart broke because I too like to paint. A lot of hours go into paintings!

When Jane got her book deal I tell you I cried

to be fair, the bar is low

And even if they were just friends, the way harper ignored her would have been weird as hell. Like why would you bring someone to a place where they know NO ONE except for you and then act like they don't exist????

@@maia_gaia Yeah also considering that Abby was a guest at Harper's everyone except Jane was actually really rude to Abby. Like why would you create such an obvious seperation like that toward someone you are recieving into your home.

@@maia_gaia yes, exactly! even when you bring a friend over, you still hang out with them and entertain them!

I've been the secret girlfriend disguised as a friend at a family Christmas event before (for poly reasons, not homophobia) and she made sure I was okay, involved me, even took time out so we could have some alone time. Because even if I was just a friend, that's how you look after them in an unfamiliar environment.

@@shaz5200 I'm so glad that she checked in with you! My ex pulled the same shit (for homophobic reasons) and then didn't understand why I was upset and hurt. Not only that, but like Harper, she left me to fend on my own and my ex-MIL hated me. It was one of the worst Christmas' I ever experienced and I'm really glad that woman is my ex now. I'm definitely not okay with being shoved back into the closet to protect the feelings of casual acquaintances, not even family. It sucked.

I am too! It's terrible parenting. They need some help!

I didn’t find it believable that she got in trouble for stealing and yet their were no cameras in the mall at an obviously semi expensive store

Thank YOU!!! That was the absolute worst!

I think they might have been acting out because their parents were getting divorced (and they do come clean in the end)

they admit to it tho

YEAH!!!!!

We need MORE movies like this!!!

Yes!! 👏🏾

@@luciendelaney8975 son? You should teach him to not fetishize people who won’t ever be interested in him ): I’m a lesbian and people who fetishize me make me really uncomfortable

@@isabellemalott9976 Oh my bad sorry

FACTS. I was sooo mad at that reconciliation.

Saaame, was fully expecting it given the rest of the movie was predictable af.

They should do a movie together for sure!

Yessss, way better than the original couple

@@hopeo-w5961 tea but... there was no romantic connection. The chemistry was more in a friend way

Best comment ever 😂

Good for you, girl! Treat the queen with the love and respect she deserves! 😭😭 By the way, can you ask her to look at this freckle on my arm? I always thought it was a freckle but now it looks like a mole? I'm not sure, but-

wait what are you talking about she literally ends up with me??? stop spreading lies (/j)

I love that is sounds like Abby is lying 😂 that's the same line someone who is not an orphan, the roommate, nor friend or acquaintance, which makes it so much better

👏🏾👏🏾

This is the worst ending.

Legit thought her going back to harper ruined everything that came before

I was frustrated with the whole thing. I'm straight, but was totally looking forward to a funny, compelling romance between women in the movie. Then the movie was mostly about stress and shame, using some stale clichés. Felt like a bait-and-switch from the marketing. Harper was immature and selfish, and Abby just seemed really lonely. Dan Levy's monologue about coming out and Aubrey Plaza playing a mature, sympathetic character for once were the only redeeming factors for me. Lesbians deserve a better rom-com... actually, WE ALL deserve better lesbian rom-coms.

The script writer seemed to lose sight of what had actually gone on in the film. Harper being in the closet wasn't a valid excuse for a lot of the bad things she did, nor was coming out of it somehow redemptive for her bad actions. Lying to her girlfriend for MONTHS about a major life event? Staying out until all hours with an ex (when she promised she wouldn't) and then blaming her concerned girlfriend for being worried? Harper was just an awful person for most of the movie. And most of her worst actions weren't her being the closet, just her being an asshole of a person.

The biggest kicker for me was harper being mad for “keeping tabs on her,” yet SHE was the one tracking Abby.

Riley was a bad ass and she was amazing Harper was so annoying and awful and what was the point of inviting your girlfriend or boyfriend or partner to your place without telling them first but it’s understandable that it’s hard to come out to your family but still she left Abby alone at the house and at a party without talking to her or making the promises you made!

I think this happened for most of us because we see Harper at her worst most of the time. I wished we would have had more of their relationship before going to the holidays, maybe we would be more attached to that relationship that way

It literally happens the first ten minutes. First Harper says Abby should spend time with her family for Christmas. Next she says let not go. Then she admits she lied about coming out to her parents as they’re _driving_ to there. They screwed up the gay couple within ten minutes and just goes down the drain after they keep going to the house. This infuriating. And now it’s worse when the director is an actual lesbian. How does this get so screwed up so quickly? Should’ve either shown the good early part their relationship or have Abby move on with Riley.

Bro literally if they'd have had Riley show up at the end instead of Harper, I would've thrown confetti

Same, I laughed audibly at that

It’s so possible too I ambien shop and ambien text and ambien dye my hair They are all very not good

I think something like that actually happened irl.

@@karennotAkaren1 ambien texting is dangerous

That made me dislike Harper the most honestly.

I dated a girl shorter than me in high school, it was the most adorably awkward thing I ever done in my life (because I’m so use to being the short one, I’m only 5’4). Now my boyfriend is taller than me (and he’s starting to hit a little growth spurt) so he always stands next to me and goes, “Did you get shorter?” However, I wear heels most of the time, which evens out our height.

I’m 5’1” over here. I do have a boyfriend, but if we ever break up, any of y’all are welcome to try. I’ve heard staircase kissing can be nice for people who have big height differences. I’ll have to try it with my boyfriend because he’s almost a foot taller than me.

My husband is 15 inches taller than me and we make good use of curbs and staircases

I'm 5'8'' and my girlfriend is 5'2''. I can confirm that it feels super nice and sweet to kiss someone shorter, but for me the best things about this height difference are: perfect for forehead kisses, you can tuck her under your chin, your shirts are oversized on her and that makes her 1000000x times cuter, and she can hear your heartbeat when you hug. Cons: club dancing face to face is a bit awkward and I constantly have to bend down. Regardless of height, at the end of the day, all queens deserve queens (if they want them)

*katniss impersonation* I volunteer !

You called?

Hello? 4'11 poly lady

@M You sound extremely sad and single. Probably because you like to negatively generalize people🤷🏽‍♀️

@M being poly isn't about an inability to "remain faithful," hey

@@TheMangoOfAMAZING I know you mean poly in another way, but I couldn’t help imagining you meant it as in “Poly Pocket” (because you are so tiny 🤗 ) hahahahha

I'm not sure if anything ever beats, i'm on team therapy

Yes, it's only fair

No

I think she felt pressure to be perfect as well because of her husband being part of the city council. She understood how her daughters felt more than anyone I suppose

@@apples8872 I agree.

I liked how the father finally accepted them.

It proves that even though people can say horrible things and be stuck in a mindset that doesn’t mean they can’t change, or grow.

I really want "Let's Go!" with mid--phrase blazer change to be a reaction gif

UGH AND AUBREY SAYING "i like your blazer" AHHH SO GAY

I think The Family Stone might be the (mostly) straight version of this story, & the main character does not end up with the dude she came with in the end.

Pov really does change stuff

That was my biggest issue. The pro-Harper arguments I've seen have all been, "We're supposed to empathize with her! She's supposed to be someone we connect with and understand." But the movie's writing doesn't give us a chance to do that. We always follow Abby and see Harper's actions through her eyes. POV is everything, and we never see anything humanizing for Harper.

She kinda reminded me that Im gay and anxious 24 minutes too.

@Gnome Gay oh my goodness same!!! I watched the film with a friend and we totally wanted Abby to leave Harper for Reily at the end, I didn’t think anyone else thought the same thing but I’m glad I found somebody who agreed because h o l y-

I was totally team Riley. I love Aubrey Plaza to begin with, but they also had such good chemistry.

@@jekellhides agreed!!

I agree. This movie was so aniexty filled! So sad that Amanda made the comparisons to D.E.B.S and Imagine me and you.

Why go for the lady torturing you for five days straight when you can go with the lady who brings you to a drag bar for a singsong.

Just chip her at this point

Yes!

I'd buy it

Yes!!!!

I stan the Riley/Abby ship.

Yeah that’s a big red flag. Like, Harper didn’t even reach out to apologize as a grown adult. I understand sometimes you’re not ready to come out, and stuff like this happens all the time. But a healthy person would’ve reached out to really apologize for putting someone through stuff like that.

Yeah I could never be with someone who did that to someone especially considering howshe was treating her at that moment

you’d dump the person you love for someone you don’t even have feelings for because you found out they made mistakes in the past?

@@sgtmian I’m not saying people don’t make mistakes, but the problem here seems to be the fact that Harper keeps repeating them. And this isn’t like “oh no I locked myself out again” level of mistake, this is “I’m gonna emotionally damage you and ruin your reputation” level of mistake.

The kissing scenes... especially the one in the parking lot... I literally laughed. I love this movie 😂

@M if it has this then its not straight now is it

@M name one straight movie with these elements

@M Name one

@@EllaAngeli not a movie but legend of korra

@@privatehere3324 They're not straight, they're bi.

it’s the teeth I think

I wasn't the only one? Good!

Yes I think it’s the home life and personality switch maybe??

Yes!!!!!

YES OMG THATS WHAT MY MOM AND I WERE SAYING WHEN WE WATCHED IT

As a straight dude I kinda felt she was gay since the panic room and that other movie she did as a kid. Turns out she's more Bi than gay but it was kinda obvious she liked woman more it seems.

I didn't... but I didn't sensed I was gay either so 🤷‍♀️

@@tai5707 big same

Loll it was hard, I sense the gay in everyone 🥰

I didn't sense any human emotion whatsoever in the very few things I've seen her in so no, I did not sense 'the gay.'

I personally was one of the people that really liked Abby and Riley together but you're right that it wouldn't be realistic. I wish the movie showed us more that they were a couple that loved each other to the point of wanting marriage instead of just telling us that and then making us root for a break up lmao

Good to know

I see you on everything

Yay

The best channel on RU-vid

Why do you hate Jess so much you nazi

Better yet, Abby and Harper remain good friends (but Harper still is awkward and not confident in her own skin) and are now both single. Then show Riley more. 🙊🙊🙊

The lightbulb just went off in my head.

Dude that’s probably why the title?! WHOA

Why you a antisemitic nazi

@@aenbywerewolf3859 I condemn the crimes against humanity as every sane person, everyone is free to do what they want as long as they don't hurt others, I don't know why you would think that of me.

Oh my god. You just made my day.

Yeah but its gay now so I'm okay with it because I'm a hypocrite

That’s what made me hate Harper.

To hang out with your ex even

@@RoKer13 @RoDoz yeah like even if you have to pretend you're just friends and even if you have starchy parents, surely it's understandable that you would want to stick with your friend/guest?? No excuse Harper 😤

Exactly! It annoys me how in these kind of movie one partner always gets ignored and they just put up with it and the other person doesnt even say anything about it. I wouldve left.

Facts! It’s so annoying how Harper wanted to hang out with her friends and ex and then she wanted to have space and then she lied to her parents and treated Abby like crap throughout the whole movie

I feel like that makes it a much better movie. Rooting for the main characters is boring, life isn't that simple. I realize romcoms have nothing to do with real life but that's why they suck. I would totally watch this with my girlfriend if I had one

It might have been nice if they had a few more minutes in the beginning to establish how good Harper could be to Abby when she wasn't anxious about what her parents would think and how that would affect the affection she wanted from them. That might have made it easier to forgive Haper at the end and to see how the relationship could return to a good place. Alternatively, they could have shown Harper being manipulative and controling towards Abby so that this could be a dark romance instead of the more traditional light hearted romance. Still better than anything on the Hallmark channel.

@@torfinnzempel6123 I think the parents being way less self-aware would have done a lot to make it darker. A family like that would never say "I'm sorry we made you think our love was conditional," finding out both of their favorite kids had lives weird lives would have taken some time to process. I know a family exactly like them and while they would adapt eventually, it wouldn't be a cathartic moment, I can tell you that lol. It might also make you feel worse for Harper. If they meant to write her as the villain they did a good job though, it's hard to say

once it was revealed she not only outed Aubrey Plaza’s character but went with the whole “she’s a lesbian that’s obsessed with me its so weird and stalkerish, help” trope, her character was ruined, imo. they should’ve just had it be her ex boyfriend asked her out, and bc they were secretly dating she said yes to the date to not be sus, and they ended up breaking up and she was devastated.

@@abbynicole4515 yes, outing her girlfriend and then reputiating her like that was extremely shitty thing to do, and it is ment to shock us, and we see that Abby was shocked by this revelation as well. Haper's only real defense is that she was 14/15 and a freshman in highschool at the time, so still very immature, but it was still really shitty. I do think, they really could have opened this movie up to be a dark romance very easily with only a few minor tweaks to the script. Give hints to Haper being abusive towards Abby. Not physically, but psychologically. They could have spent 5-10 minutes in the beginning of the film showing Haper doing to Abby some of the same things her parents did to her, where when Abby does things she doesn't like, she withholds her affection from Abby, and when Abby does things she does like, she is overly affectionate. Locking Abby into a cycle of constantly fearing "disappointing" Harper but also desperate to seek her approval. They could show how Haper was recreating the same dynamoc with Abby that she grew up with with her parents. They could even do this in just 1 scene, In their apartment, Abby is alone and makes a dinner reservatiom at a fancy exclusive super hard to get into restaurant, Harper gets home and Abby tells her about the reservation all excited. Harper complains about being tired and maybe she's just going to go straight to bed. Abby looks panicked but then blurts out thet they could go on the Christmas tour that she knows Haper likes. Harper smiles and gives Abby a big affectionate hug, maybe a snog before heading out for the tour, and then we pick up at the beginning of the movie with them on the tour were we find out why Abby wouldn't have wanted to go on it. Since we discover later in the movie that Abby moved into Harper's apartment maybe they could have shown us that this was Haper's idea, not Abby's. That Maybe Abby had renewed her lease say 2/3 months earlier and Harper only had 1 month left on her lease, so that Abby having to break her lease caused her a big financial problem, but Harper moving in with Abby could have been simply a matter of letting her lease expire. we could end the movie in 1 of 2 ways. 1: Abby forgives Harper but, and this is critical, they start seeing a couples therapist who helps Abby to be more assertive in the relationship about her own needs and wants, and to help Harper to relearn how to act and treat people, essentially to unlearn the behaviors her parents taught her so that Abby and Harper can have a healthy relationship going forward. 2: Abby leaves Harper finally realizing her own self worth and how toxic the relationship is, Haper also realizing now that she was treating Abby the same way her parents treated her, starts seeing a therapist so she can relearn how to treat the people she cares about.

OH MY GOD YOU COULD'VE MET THEM?!?!? 😲😱 Anyway to your main point: yeah the immediate acceptance was unrealistic especially when we think back to the lifestyle comment at the beginning. The Instagram thing was cute and I liked that. I feel like they could've had Abby and Harper and John go home/go to Sloane or Jane's house and had Christmas there and then we see a year later and one/both of the parents reaches out and then they talk. Or maybe the mom sees on Instagram how happy her daughter is and sees her and Abby visiting Sloane and Jane and then maybe runs into them at the book signing? Idk and then we get them unplanned going to the movie maybe? And then we get the same after credits ig stuff. Idk that would just feel more realistic.

Yeah the writing of the family was pandery and didn't feel real

If they made this movie in the way you wanted people would probably complain about "another gay film not having a happy ending" You can't win with everyone.

@@rsfilmdiscussionchannel4168 THATS WHAT IM SAYING.

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

For real! Harper was messing up left and right, but when Abby told her it was over.. Harper's face and entire body looked like her world had just crumbled. Mackenzie Davis knocked that out of the park. The whole cast was amazing.

Are lesbians supposed to like find someone near their own height? Is this some weird convention I'm not aware of? The only pairing that I was aware was taboo was a short man and a tall woman

@@skeetsmcgrew3282 No, it was just funny how the scene was set up due to the height difference

BAHAHAHAHHSHS I LAUGHED TOO... THAT WOULD BE ME.

Their heights are only a 5-inch difference! Just bend down a bit, dang. My husband is 15 inches taller than i am.

@@alisaurus4224 Might have just been a director choice, like the director wanted the scene to look a certain way and they figured looking down at her wouldn't give the vibe they were going for. Although 15 inch difference, that does seem like a logistical problem. Must kiss you on top of the head like a kid all the time lol

Yea and we get a happy ending!!

You might have already seen it, and might disagree with me categorizing it as a romcom, but I sincerely recommend "She-Ra and the Princesses of Power" on Netflix to tick those boxes for you.

"Saving Face" was written and directed by Alice Wu, who just recently did "The Half of It." It's a gorgeous little romcom gem where the main IS closeted to her Chinese family, but while it's part of the situation it's not really the main conflict? I feel like it was handled much better there than in "Happiest Season" anyway.

I agree that there should be more romcoms where everything is the standard but the couple is the same gender, but secret-keeping is such a staple of RomComs that it really makes sense that screenwriters grab onto the natural secret that comes gift-wrapped with writing gay romance. To be fair, the secret-keeping plot for me is a whole lot more tolerable when the secret involved is something more grounded and relatable, compared to ridiculous secrets like "we're both together because of a bet" (many variations exist), "I'm both your love interest and pretending to be my own twin brother, your roommate, to play soccer on the boys team", "I've switched places with the princess because we're identical strangers I'm really a middle-class American", "The prince is secretly adopted and his nanny is secretly a reporter who snuck into the palace and then lied about her qualifications to get a story," or "I'm secretly the owner of the big box bookstore down the street trying to get yours shut down," or "any fake dating story" (many variations), ect ect ect. But that's just my personal taste-- both ridiculous romcoms and ones with more grounded conflict should exist.

@@MegaKaitouKID1412 You make a lot of sense here. I don’t know why I enjoy smarmy movies like the ones you describe. Completely unrelatable, right? I mean, WHY are there so many Princes and Princesses? And country names like Aldovia, Genovia, etc. ARRGH! It’s like not only do they have to fall in love, one of them has to be rich or live in nowheresville for a year so they can discover that living in a small town is soooooo much better than the big city. And there are always TONS of white people and the best friend who is either gay or black or both- hey, here’s an idea! How about an interracial couple? How about an interracial couple where one of the people is NB? In a world where we get vomitous movies like 365 days glorifying patriarchal bullshit and abuse and subjugation of women, could we PLEASE have some decent movies about good people of all races/genders/orientations? But I digress. TL;DR: I agree.

I have never been in this situation, but yeah, I mean that seems kinda obvious to me.

@@jordanweber3381 never really been in this exact situation either. But I remember when I was a teenager and I was going home with a “friend” we will lock ourselves in the room for a “girl chat”. No one ever asked more details 😁

Pretty sure that's the pun.

The movie is in the closet.

*that’s the joke*

Also, if they missed any golden naming opportunities, clearly the one they missed was to name it "Happy Holigays."

exactly my thoughts! its fun seeing platonic lesbian relationships and not the typical "fall in love with the first lebian i see" trope

@@danielachoresh1465 yes! I’d rather see a sequel to happiest season where Abby and Harper wingman for Riley and comedy ensues, instead of indulging in the old “lesbian cheats with the ex literal days after meeting her because her relationship hit a low” trope. Let lesbians be platonic friends!

meeee. more lesbian friendships, please.

EXACTLY

I'm all about this. I have never and will never watch this movie, but I will most certainly read all the fanfic.

@@kaemincha YES!!

If she was sitting down would that make her perpendicular?

@@skeetsmcgrew3282 idk. But I do know she wouldn't be straight!

I totally agree

Kinda??

Adi that’s why I liked that she didn’t propose right after Harper apologized but they took time, talked it out, worked on themselves and we saw that they are engaged only one year after. This way it’s a beautiful story about finding yourself, giving second chance bc we are all human and no matter our mistakes, at the end, love should win.

I need “Team Therapy” merch!

I want that on a hoodie or so, Amanda, when

yeah it was a little slow tho i just skipped to the gay parts they were gay alright 😏

I’m with you. While I loved the chemistry between Abby and Riley, I actually think showing a very flawed character realize her mistake and be forgiven is pretty powerful. I agree it would’ve been nice to see more of Harper’s good sides. But I think that a relationship takes a lot of work and Harper was absolutely not treating Abby right, but Abby was able to stand up for herself in the end (which was her character development) and I felt for Harper a lot because I have a family that is similar in a lot of ways. The pressure of family expectations can make you do shitty things. I know that the ending was definitely an idealized happy ending, but us gays need these happy ending rom coms too.

@Halloween All Year Round like nothing but cliches, IDK what that person was smoking

Yeah they wrote Harper to be so repeatedly awful that it seemed as if the writer had a personal disdain for the character. Harper was probably based on a real life person the writer disliked. She was written to be the bad guy we should hate and Abby (and Riley) the sympathetic nice girls we should love. I understand Harper's complex dilema, her being torn between the need to live up to competing, contradictory aspects of her life and identity and the pain she feels deep down for not standing up for herself an her gf. Those are very human behaviors and feelings, good and bad. I couldn't help but empathize with her by the end especially as she redeemed herself, but even more so because she was clearly written to be actively rooted against while Abbey and Riley were written as saints. Harper felt much more 3D and nuanced flaws and all, mostly because of the performance. Unlike the viewers who see female characters in black and white and just automatically hate on the character making bad decisions and automatically love the characters depicted as saints, I actually wish we could've seen shades of grey in Abbey and Riley because they were really quite vanilla and monochromatic, shown as Mary Sues we should love because the girlfriend is oh so horrible tying to deal with the shame of an awful family. But I guess you can't ask for more nuance and insight when the loudest parts of the viewing audience are just interested in rooting for broad strokes of niceness and the writer uses the main characters as stand-ins of her past.

@@carpediemearth Yep, totally. While the writer made Abby and Riley the sympathetic, innocent victims character in the whole movie. As the writer done and written Harper poorly and dirty as well, as they try to make her character unlikable as possible. Which was weak and pathetic attempt to believe that, Harper was a bad person and a girlfriend in the whole movie. If anything it make me feel a little bit, more sympathetic to her a just little. Because either Abby or Riley didn’t have any bad thing about them, it was all just good and positive things about them in the whole movie. Which kinda bs as not once either Abby or Riley, did anything wrong in the movie. I would have liked Abby was pressuring, Harper to come out to her family. Give a good reason why, Harper keep holding it back. At least Harper wouldn’t be the only dislike character, which I think her character was done very unfairly. As I hate how Abby portrayed as the innocent, and likeable character in the film and Riley as well.

I love the many blazers to