It took more abuse, and lasted way longer than I thought it would. I knew it would snap, but I thought it would have broken where the blade meets that 90 degree tang. For it to take that degree of punishment and stress, just proves what a great, quality knife the Ka-Bar actually is. Great video. 👍
"This is very unexpected" Really? You were trying to bang it through a 4x4 post with a mini-sledge. That's exactly what I expected to happen. What did you think it was made of? Wolverine's middle finger?
Then he's banging it through metal & wood blocks & banging on it side like it's a chisle/axe.. people need to buy them a another tool ( idc what people say Ka-bar is a badass/very good knife..)
That blade held out that 99% of knives wouldn't even come close to. 1095 can be impressive if properly heat treated and folks in KA BAR realized how to do it. Long long time ago. Survival, bushcrafting, combat-you name it. Great, universal blade.
Vininull, I think the reason why it broke was because of how 1095 steel can be a very brittle metal when it is heat treated to a high Rockwell, especially around the 55-60 area. Ka-bars don't have a deferential temper to them, just like you saw. The steel pattern from that cross section of where it broke, the grains in the steel were very homogeneous. The ka-bar has a very high rockwell throughout all of the metal, so when you hit steel that has a very high rockwell with another very hard object, it will fracture and chip rather than bend or deform. Hope this helps :)
Shows how much abuse this knife can handle. The people saying it is bad for Kabar knives to snap like this here is a short history lesson. The USMC Ka-Bar was designed and used as a Fighty/Utility knife. It originally was a fighting knife. The clip point being slightly sharpened makes the knife pierce better the fuller/blood groove gives it better stiffness and to lighten the blade. The hand guard has a curve towards the handle so it rests against the users hand better. The handle weather stacked leather or plastic keeps it firm in the users hand and is made to accommodate most hand sizes even large one. Now keeping all that in mind the knife was really made to do one thing and that is to kill another human being. Primarily by stabbing them or slicing them. The blade is strong enough to withstand hitting bone without breaking or to cut through it (ie beheading). The utility portion is really just a opportunistic thing. You see an opportunity to where it can be applied then it can usually do it once or twice depending on the task. It is no real surprise it failed under the weight of a sledgehammer and cutting steel and so forth. It was never designed to do those task's. You wouldn't use a skinning knife to chop your wood then why would you expect a knife designed to kill people to do it. It is performing outside of the realm which it was designed for. If I snap the tip of a Ka-bar trying to pry the head off an engine then who is at fault. Me of course because I am not using the proper tool for the job. Now if I was trying to pry the head off of another person it will perform and do just that. Can it be used as a utility knife in a situation of survival you bet your ass it can but do not expect it to move large boulders and so forth. The knife is simply a combat/fighting knife and that is all. All the features of it I previously said makes it perfect for stabbing people or slicing them. This knife can and will kill people, open ammo boxes and ration tins of the WWI and WWII era, hammer a stake for a tent, cut foliage etc etc. The main point of all this being that it is primarily by design a combat knife the same as a Bowie Knife NOT a survival knife so don't expect it to be one and unless people are made of metal then don't try to cut metal. Props to the guy who made the video to see how far it can be stressed before breaking.
+evilcowboy yep, other than the blade breaking, which was probably from weakening the spine with that hammer, i would say there was not a single thing he did to it that could not have been quickly fixed with a bit of work with a file or sharpening stones, i would say it isn't a good knife to baton with but in normal everyday use as a hunting/utility knife i would say it will last a long time.
+Samwise of course and usually you are not batoning with a sledgehammer. I have a SOG Seal Pup and it is a combat knife that can be repurposed for medium duty camp tasks but people are disappointed that it can't hack down a redwood or flip a boulder. I'm surprised vininull got this far abusing the Kabar.
Iamthedudeman00 I'm not understanding how the handle material dictates the blades strength. I think you mean to say that an original kabar would have broken sooner, due to steel with less strength used back when. you can get a modern stacked leather handle kabar made with the same exact steel used in the ka1212 and ka1214. I understand your confusion. but you can't claim that kabars with leather handles are of less quality than kabars with the rubber grips, because it's simply not true
Is there a particular reason why you used a metal hammer for this test? In your other hard use videos, you use a rubber mallet. Good testing, however no one will smash a knife with a metal hammer. The loads on the knife from the hammer are far worse than whats on the cutting edge when your smashing the knife. Everything about the knife was excellent until you started smashing the spine of the knife with the hammer. I like your hard use videos. Keep them coming.
***** use wood in between, as a buffer. and btw, i think around 50 hits (with about 20 of them NOT being square) from a sledge hammer is exceptional. good test, regardless Thanks.
spyderspic666 exactly. This still speaks to the quality of ka bar. You can beat it with a mini sledge for quite a long time before it smashes!!! Also notice how the spine was soft enough to bend, but the edge was durable.... ka bar is the best. I swear by mine.
Саша, если существует рай для ножей, то все клинки, прошедшие через твои руки, достойны этого. Как-бы они, ножи то есть, не грешили при своей недолгой ножевой жизни :)))
I was issued a k-bar in 1972, used it through Vietnam and Lebanon, and kept it after I retired in 1990. It was used and misused in various ways including digging a foxhole in rocky ground. I never once tried to cut tubing or cable, but I did "baton" the knife many times. I understand and supprt severe testing, but this is abuse, far beyond "normal".
But taking the test further than normal provides alot more information, dont you think? From what I can tell from this test these knives are extremely durable. The only reason it failed is that he pounts it with a hammer, basically shattering the blade because its hardened. Same thing would happen with most if not all hardened metal blades. Also, thank you for your service.
It is utterly impossible that you were batoning back in the 70s. Everyone knows (at least on some blade forums) that batoning was invented *after* RU-vid was created. That means that batoning didn't exist before 2005. ;)
CSharp so wait a sec, your telling me that before 2005 that noone in the entirety of history of all mankind has ever used a knife to split wood using a hammer like object to force the blade through the material? I doubt that's true, I find it hard to believe that nobody had ever thought of that in several thousand years of human history.
In my opinion the knife handled everything admirably! This knife is not full tang and yet it demonstrated incredible strength in lateral force test! I was very surprised that the tang held up to abuse of this magnitude!! And any knife even a BK2 WILL break if you smash it into the wood with a heavy hammer! I have a whole lot of new respect for the Kabar Usmc knife after This video!
@@fathersonsurvival Not by regular use, that knife is a beast. But hitting it with a sledge hammer it will break. There is a video on youtube where someone broke it with a hammer going in a tree. Cheers
Seen more USMC Kabar Fighting/Utility knifes broken than any knife in my life. Once seen three Kabars broken in less than ten minutes once, by throwing them at a tree. The steel in them looked much different than the steel on the knife here. All the older knives were rat-tail tang broken at guard juncture, steel was very grainy. Never bought another Kabar after that though I might one of the newer ones such as shown here in this demo. I am impressed in the upgrade quality in comparison to the old war ones.
They are not a indestructible knife they aren't meant to be batoned .They are a fighting knife. If you look after them and maintain them they will last a life time .They will cut threw bone and flesh with ease. There's a good reason they are so loved
Жесткий тест надо сказать.. Сразу видно Русский тестировал)) Нош в наших руках должен уметь все)) Я ставлю +10 стойкости Кабара и +4 убойности молотка..) Обазательно приобрету себе Кабар !!
I love the Kabar haterz, "get a true full tang", they say, "the Kabar is garbage" lol. What they fail to understand is, this is a soldiers knife, and was designed as such just before WWII. No soldier wants to tromp around with a huge heavy hunk of steel on their side. First, it's a pain in the ass to carry along with all the other gear they gotta hump. Second, a 7 inch true full tang blade is too damn slow n heavy for hand to hand CQB. The Kabar design however, gives one all the reach and cutting power of a big blade, yet is lightning quick. It's probably, still to this day, the fastest in hand big blade ever made. It also gives the user plenty of handle, so you can choke back on it and gain even more slashing/chopping power. The ergonomics are excellent and the balance/feel of the blade in hand are energetic & lively. Would I like a Kabar USMC blade with a true full tang, milled out for weight reduction, with an integral guard? Sure! But the knife would lose certain characteristics. The weight, feel, and balance would all be changed. It wouldn't be the same...These knives were made to be mass produced in war time, and fancy tang milling wasn't part of the program, or even considered on blades back then. Yet the men who designed this knife for fighting and utility created a timeless masterpiece. This blade has a soul. Few blades have that quality. Sure, it can be broken, but it takes a helluva lot to do it. I'll take that trade off for speed and usability.
Kabars are not garbage but this test would of been better suited for the BK2. This USMC model is not a good CQC knife for self defense. Would it work? yes. Would it be ideal? hell no. Speed is the name of the game if your being rushed by an attacker. A fast deploying razor sharp folder can go from the pocket to the throat in one linear motion. This gigantic USMC knife may look intimidating hanging from the belt of a biker but it's not really practical. IMO
Myk Ford In a civilian everyday setting for self defense purposes, I'm with you. On the battlefield, whether urban or otherwise, I disagree. The Kabar was designed for soldiers when the human wave tactic was heavily utilized in warfare, especially by Imperial Japan. Hand to hand combat was a given, it was going to happen, no way around it. That kind of deal is not a job for a folder. Also, Kabar makes some very good, quick access, polymer sheaths for this blade. Today soldiers carry them attached to their LBE, often in a cross draw position so the blade can be unsheathed and slash in one fluid motion, much like Samurai deployed the Katana. I'm not saying this is the best fighting knife ever. That is a completely subjective taste for each individual. There are so many good knives today, but that wasn't the case back in the day, the options were slim... But I think I can say this with strong confidence: that the Kabar type knife has seen more actual combat and soldier use than any other knife made.
+Chacote Outdoor Recreation Thank you sir.. But I have had no knife fights, No sir, Thankfully not, LOL... and hopefully never will. Nasty business... But I do train Escrima/Kali/FMA, and I practice with live blades. I own a fair number of knives and other edged weapons, and I've handled a few blades in my time. There are no finer "big" blades for martial application than the standard Kabar and the Kabar 1245 Tanto, imho. The Gerber Mark II is another one I really like, very fast and nimble. Daggers are another story though, not really a field knife. Specifically made for killing.
Love how everybode love the destruction tests on his other videos, but when it comes to usa- knifes, their crying like babies. Good work! Keep on doing this videos!
Nobody is trying to bash the KA-BAR or USA in general in this video. No point of getting offended. And in some comments above he said he used this kind of hammer for the big knives (which is idiotic to hammer a knife with a metal hammer but that's what he did). Just take it like push it to the limit video. The knife took great abuse, something nobody in real life would actually put it through. God Bless!
Great review as always! I was wondering, in older videos (such as the eskabar test), you used to use a rubber mallet for batoning, and in recent videos, you've switched to a heavier steel hammer. Do you think using this hammer gives a different result in these tests? I wonder if the denting that occurs in the spine weakens the knife in a way that makes it seem weaker than it is? I could be wrong, just wondered what you thought. Thanks again! Can't wait to see a hard use test with INFI vs CPM 3V :)
This video only serves to demonstrate the idiotic expectations of certain preppers and survivalists. Any of them who would expect their knives to survive this kind of abuse would surly not survive because they would break the very tools needed to keep them alive. There is an old saying that "there is a tool for every job." A knife, no knife, is designed to take this kind of punishment, and still be able to hold an edge, cut, slice, and be easy to sharpen, and hold an edge. To make a knife that tough , it would have to be made out of steel far too hard to have those qualities. Where I come from, we use an axe for chopping, cutters to cut cable, a hack saw to cut tubing. It would be a very desperate situation to use a knife for those tasks. Battoning a knife (which I never even heard of prior to watching youtube) would be considered crazy and careless. If attempted, it would be gently done with a limb or other piece of wood, because any moron knows your'e likely to break your knife! Waling on the back of a knife with a hardened steel sledge hammer is just criminal! It only sets the metal up for failure. The KaBar is an excellent tool for which it was designed, and I would have total confidence carrying it in the bush for any situation. Oh, and I wouldn't be without my axe either!
Nothing disappointing at all. In the Bear Gryllis test the tip broke off in the sheet steel puncture tests. He also did the stab and pry test prior to beating it with a sledge hammer. The Gerber would likely snap off if he had of pried with it after the beating. And the Gerber is a bitch to sharpen, and doesn't hold an edge as well. I hold fast to the statement that no knife is meant to stand up to this kind of abuse. It would be rather silly to be "disappointed" by any of this.
Огорчился я,конечно, впоряде.Реально нравился этот нож.Думал почему его до сих пор его небыло на тесте жесткого использования.Всегда сомневался,что кончик здесь выдержит,думал он,самое слабое место.А не могло повлиять то,что железом об железо бил.Я понимаю,что ты запарился резиновые молотки переводить,но все же...Если б хотя бы деревяшкой какой нибудь лупить,всеравно сломался бы?Как думаешь?
I just opened my brand new KABAR fighting knife today. It is a full siize KABAR. It is a Navy. I used it on my faro rod. It took a spark off of the knife edge. It didn't even phase the cutting edge of the knife at all.It has been suggested, by Dave Canterbery ,that one grind the spine of other knives to do this. No need to do that to this knife. I expect this to be my go to knife for the rest of my life.. I paid $ 85.00 for this knife, at the knife center.
Судя по зерну что видно на сколе его перекалили(как по мне). Клинок имеет высокую твёрдость по шкале HRC из за чего он хрупкий. Вообще тест жесткий, так нагружать нож, впечатлило)) Классный обзор.
Even if the blade had broken at the last test ... She did well to the other tests. And it is worth remembering that it is a combat knife and not Bushcrafth.
как же я ждал хард-юза этой модели. Алекс, как думаешь может ли cold steel recon tanto гипотетически хорошо пройти это же тестирование, интересно твое мнение.
Может быть все же нож сломался от воздействия металла по металлу(как версия)у меня сломался Бак худлум на тесте,но там выпил,ослабляющий конструкцию.Но в буклете с ножом было описано,что батонить надо ударяя по ножу обязательно деревянным поленом,что топором молотком нельзя.Может есть смысл в этом?И нож мне Бак поменял после просмотра видео.Все же от металла воздействие думаю сильно отличается.
***** Когда мне было лет 14 и дед учил меня рубить дрова колуном(такой топор)то когда рубишь к примеру комель березовый и колун вошел глубоко но не разрубил есть 2 варианта,либо поднять и ударить обухом колун вместе с поленом о другое полено,либо если как у меня тогда сил не всегда хватало,ударить поленом по колуну.Когда я спросил,может стоит ударить лучше кувалдой,дед мне ответил что колун может лопнуть,и кувалдой НЕЛЬЗЯ.Я это запомнил на всю жизнь.Тест есть тест,понятно,но если бы не молотком бить,то наверное и результат был бы другим.Имхо.
Олег Мартишин Согласен с тобой Олег может он бы и не сломался. Но тут ещё нужно учитывать одну вещь. У твоего деда топор был провереный годами необходимый инструмент а здесь мы имеем дело с каким-то дядей который приходит и говорит - "ребята, вот этот нож самыйсупермегакрутотактик... легендарный меганож из суперстали и т.п." а это уже извините требует доказательств. В противном случае о чём весь этот пиар и реклама.
There is a old saying if a Marine can break it they will, if they can get it pregnant they'll do that too, but Marines used the KA BAR in WWII and beyond so that says something about it. No one uses a knife as this guy does, no one.
Entertaining. The KA-BAR was tested and approved by far better men 75 years ago, it's certainly good enough for me. Put him in a 100 degree jungle against a fanatical enemy that never surrenders and I'll bet he wouldn't beat his knife, rifle or canteen with a hammer.
I am not surprised the blade broke when the spine was compromised. I mean hammering on it against the grain for batoning I thought for sure it would break at the ratailed tang. But for a fighting knife great job over all. And why a hammer over a plastic mallet or wood so you don't damage the knife when testing?
А когда уже n690co будет? Ни на одном канале обзоров нет...... Я когда ремонт делал, долбил молотком по фоксу, покрытие облезло, а вмятин вообще не было! Можт tfde или t3000 от экстремы? Ну или pro hunter от фоксов?
ive seen your videos before. they are awesome. i live in canada and unfortunately dont speak russian. thankyou thankyou for the english subtitles. i wish jake ivenbach would do the same. im going to ask him to have a look at your channel.
просто мнение. Если бы аккуратней бил молотком и не спешил, Кабар бы до конца дожил. Ты разбил целостность клинка и он по самому глубокому углублению и лопнул. Может надо киянкой лупить а не молотком? Или деревяху подкладывать... молотком можно любой нож убить без тестов(
***** Этого и следовало ожидать . Предлагаю взять пластину металла пару мм заточить и половину лезвия притупить , будете удивлены, так-как претупленная часть лезвия будет входить в дерево под другим углом с резким перегибом , то что и произошло с Кабаром . Проведите эксперимент для себя . Добавлю : метал мягкий возьмите для простоты эксперимента . Кромка Ка-бар была притуплена рубкой троса . Спасибо за обзор .
I have to say, on this test - the kabar bit into the wood more than the majority resulting in achieving greater force on the blade when pulling, also, your pulling force was almost 90 degrees to the blade - which is more than ive seen you be able to do on other knives. It looked like you bent the blade about 45 degrees on the first pull lol. The tests arent uniform but they have helped me decide on folding knifes, thanks and keep up the good work. Great videos!!
I’m sold! Buying this tomorrow! If it can stand up to what he did to it, then it’ll be fine for my everyday use. I’m not going around chopping poles and shit though 😂
Great video man! I really didn't expect this result. Appreciate you making these type of videos. Definitely gives a perspective of how a particular knife will perform and likely last under normal use.
its a high carbon steel and it had some serious deform by the hammer and thats why it broke... the deformations messed with material crystalic structure and failed...
I'm not surprised it broke after all that. You were wailing on it with a hardened forgers hammer, any other knife wouldn't even have lasted a fraction as long as this knife.
No, YOU were not talking about size, weight, dimensions and steels. You just wrote "any other knife" and that is pretty wrong. Well, an INFI-Steel Busse in the same size, weight and dimensions will outperform the Kabar, many other Knifes in many different steels will do that as well, thats not a secret. The Kabar is still much bang for the buck and there is nothing wrong with that, just dont overhype the Kabar because its just a Kabar, i love mine, but i would not overstress it like shown in the video.
I'm pretty sure if you hit the spine of any knife with a metal hammer it is going to break. This is why people baton with a piece of wood and not a hammer. The wood will not deform the spine which caused the knife to break.
Не буду скрывать - было больновато смотреть, как Вы лупите по ножу молотком. Но все же, результатами теста был удивлен. Мой сломался на хвостовике при попытке вскрыть заколоченную дверь, чуть позже я узнал, что это их болезнь. Смогли бы вы затестить что-нибудь из серии KABAR BK&T?
Купил себе такой несколько лет назад, что бы тренироваться точить на мокрых камнях, применялся как хоз нож накпикниках и стрельбищах. Из надостатков: не сбалансирован вес сильно смещён в рукоять как следствие тяжкло рубить, рукоять из наборной кожи сильно впитывает жир от шашлыков.
Очень интересный и самый настоящий жёсткий тест ножа, интересно выдержит ли такой тест финка НКВД из стали Булат?недавно себе такую с России заказал? Really impressive and really hard test for that knife, I have same knife and really like it! Wondering if finca NKVD made with bulat still willing to survive that same test? Just ordered one from Russia!
Очень поучительный тест для владельцев этого ножа, теперь они точно знают, рамки дозволенного ) Сань, ты еще не созрел, чтоб подвергнуть Strider похожим истязаниям?
Very entertaining video as usual. Even more entertaining are the butthurt comments though. Please go on with these vids and thanks a lot for the subtitles.
This knife is made to hammer nails with the butt of the handle , dig a hole with the blade (which would take forever) , fighting and most of all cutting ... of course not hitting it with a sledgehammer into steel lol but this is awesome to know what the breaking point of it ... hell I still have my grandfather's Ka-Bar an that blades been through hell and back lol
Avi Yakobi No, I have never been in a "knife fight" and have no intention of ever being in one. However, common sense tells me that stabbing into a person (which this knife was designed to do) is a lot different than cutting down a tree.
Алекс приветствую.Думаю так же было бы интересно,увидеть хард-юз,фикседов от колд стила.Их хваленый 3-слойный ламинат,Или побюджетней,BUSHMAN,TRUE FLIGHT THROWER.Алекс,что думаешь по этому поводу.Еще позволю себе высказать свое мнение насчет falknivena f1 со сталью VG-10,помнится в каком-то из видео ты тоже его планировал на хард юз.Полностью разочаровал рукоятка ничем не закреплена,кроме дохлой трубки,служащая отверстием под темляк,при батонинге,пошла трещинами,кончик при втыкании в сосну просто обломился, целью его сломать не было,был просто воткнут,в то время как я привязывал гамак.59 единиц там нет и в помине.Плюс еще столкнулся с таким фактором на данном ноже,как цементирование режущей кромки,при повторных заточках,правках,все прелести этого чуда и вылезают,садится в момент.Кожаные ножи очень громоздкие.Из-за слишком большой шлевки под ремень,гуляют по всему ремню.Выскажи свое мнение,что думаешь по этому поводу.Про царапучесть накладок я вообще молчу.Алекс еще приложу ссылку на воронежскую школу экспертов режущего инструмента,если ты не против конечно.vk.com/club77558501 и про выживание vk.com/public67306135.С уважением.
почти каждый раз нож налетает на бетон, прям тенденция складывается. операторская работа тоже могла бы быть в этот раз качественней. спасибо за тест, Алекс!
надо заголовок " как сломать ка бар", а то что нож сломался ничего удивительного нет. При таком обращении танки ломаются. никто не делает пазы в бревнах ножами
@@dmitryskliarenko2451 The very tip of the Glock bends way too easy. Stab the tip into wood and bend the blade.Done that several times with several Glock knives. They are made of soft steel. Hence they do not break when throwing them a lot. This Ka-bar has a better tip strength than the Glock fm78 which bends like iron wire.
Нда, очень странные ножи Ka-Bar 1211-1261... Ломаются, кончики крошатся... У меня их штуки 4 было - все поломал. И что особо странно - Кабар ведь их калит очень слабо - 56-58HRC! Заточку держат паршивенько, но правятся легко, но при этом лопнуть такому ножу как нефиг делать! А вот моделька 1281/82/83 - совсем другое дело! Там D2, она попрочнее, потвёрже - до 60HRC. Уже лет шесть на охоте юзаю - отличная вещь! Алекс, спасибо за обзор!!! :)
The steel in a knife has to have balance between hardness and toughness. A sledgehammer is going to be pretty tough by design, as it's designed to take blows. So, of course it will deform the steel in the knife, which is designed to have a balance between toughness to take blows to an object, and hardness to hold an edge. A metal that is tough isn't necessarily hard, and a metal that's hard (such as Tungsten) isn't necessarily tough. This is how and why forging works. Were you to hit Tungsten with that hammer, you would shatter it but it wouldn't likely deform or scratch right away. I think many people are under the impression that steel has the properties they see in movies, which is pretty much Hollywood showing a single piece of steel having the good properties of virtually every alloy in existence.
Саша спасибо за твой канал - каждый раз с нетерпением жду новые тесты и обзоры. На днях заказал такой же Ka Bar на найфворксе, и ты выкладываешь сегодня его хардъюз. Как по заказу. Теперь буду знать его пределы. Еще раз огромное спасибо за то, что ты делаешь! п.с. Когда будет обзор точилки от Хапстоун???
