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Hardening the Steel Gears for the - Home Made 6 Speed Electric Dirt Bike - Part 3 

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In this video we are building another electric dirt bike, this time we are modifying the dirt bike engine and installing the electric motor into the engine so therefore we can still have the 6 speed transmission and clutch.
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@larrydavidson3402
@larrydavidson3402 6 месяцев назад
This is one of the most interesting videos on you tube. I learned how to harden metal. You made two gears and hardened them in your little shop. You better be damn proud Chris as its quite the accomplishment.
@Prxpagandalf
@Prxpagandalf 6 месяцев назад
💯
@casey360360
@casey360360 6 месяцев назад
The way he's doing it is hardening the face or surface of the metal, he's not introducing carbon into the entire structure of the steel. Think of this process as similar to anodizing aluminum. It increases the durability of the part's contact area's but it won't increase the strength of the steel in whole. This process is highly recommended over using a high-carbon steel for the entire part when used in things like transmissions or final drives.
@Mad-Duk_Machine_Werkes
@Mad-Duk_Machine_Werkes 6 месяцев назад
Well, what he never said was: THIS is how to harden THIS ALLOY of steel, other kinds of steel would have taken longer or shorter, or worked better with the water, etc, ALL STEEL ALLOYS ARE DIFFERENT, so don't just copy him with whatever you have and try to do an hour and 20 mins and then use Cooking oil
@johnmorgan1629
@johnmorgan1629 6 месяцев назад
This week baking with Chris.
@southerndime333
@southerndime333 6 месяцев назад
carbon baked gears, my favourite
@SupaDad2012
@SupaDad2012 6 месяцев назад
😂
@Imarookieatthis
@Imarookieatthis 6 месяцев назад
😂
@RanchingBoys2020
@RanchingBoys2020 6 месяцев назад
Tbh the best cooking show on RU-vid.
@drrrw
@drrrw 6 месяцев назад
Let him cook hahaha
@Chris-hall9080
@Chris-hall9080 6 месяцев назад
Love the bloopers, man. Shows humility
@Reman1975
@Reman1975 6 месяцев назад
Yeah. Too many people take themselves way too seriously these days. When folks can't even bare to be the butt of their own jokes, they can rarely cope with being the butt of other peoples.
@rexhorning7228
@rexhorning7228 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for the bloopers. Puts the reality of what it takes back in.
@RC-fu6hg
@RC-fu6hg 6 месяцев назад
I worked in a engineering laboratory and the machinist who worked with me also did hardening in a small kiln like yours. I loved the video. You did a fantastic job. I can’t wait to see what else you have in mind for this one of a kind project. 👍
@ShaunHensley
@ShaunHensley 6 месяцев назад
The outtakes were hilarious
@IamBATMAN2024
@IamBATMAN2024 6 месяцев назад
lol he needs to show them more often 😂
@davestevens4263
@davestevens4263 6 месяцев назад
Ohhh they were , sober & still lmao
@NdumN
@NdumN 6 месяцев назад
Think he started talking backwards there for a few seconds
@alex4alexn
@alex4alexn 6 месяцев назад
this is by far one of my fav projects on RU-vid right now, cant wait for part 4
@mg-bx6bi
@mg-bx6bi 6 месяцев назад
I was thinking as I watched that you'd done an amazing job explaining this. Didn't think you had it in you... then you showed the bloopers. Wow, Chris, truly awesome... you did this video so well. You're not a natural and it isn't easy. That took some real work!.
@davestevens4263
@davestevens4263 6 месяцев назад
This is proof , Chris is one of us . He does great work & doesn't give up . Much respect !!!!!
@jamaicatvtv4215
@jamaicatvtv4215 6 месяцев назад
Chris, as a bladesmith…. when we heat treat carbon steels, they also become very brittle and break easily unless they are tempered afterwards. I’m not sure what steel you used to start off with, or what it ended up at with the carbon content, but you may want to research the tempering process, post heat treat. For most carbon steels like 1080, 1084, 1095, it can simply be done with 2 tempering cycles in the oven at 400°f for 2 hours and allowed to cool slowly after each. Love the channel!
@charlesmorissette8620
@charlesmorissette8620 6 месяцев назад
Probably my favorite video of you ever. Been watching for 5 years every Sunday, I love to see you experimentimg! It's fun and entertaining I hope you keep up with that train of thought
@jamesv2811
@jamesv2811 6 месяцев назад
This has become my favourite channel. I've built some electric motorcycles along the batteries and always wanted to do this but I don't have the skills required. Super interesting, thanks!
@TripleXclown
@TripleXclown 6 месяцев назад
B-Reel! Love the honest behind the scenes!
@BobAnon-c3v
@BobAnon-c3v 6 месяцев назад
bench vice + clamp on drill is pure genius!
@drsnapid
@drsnapid 6 месяцев назад
I for one appreciate the effort you go through to make these videos. Those outtakes shows just how much extra work you do. Thank you so much, it is awesome.
@kenselleck2414
@kenselleck2414 6 месяцев назад
A piece of notebook paper between the gears is just about perfect!
@lancekappes526
@lancekappes526 6 месяцев назад
Genuinely one of my favorite series. Not a huge fan of motors, prefer engines, but as soon as I saw in the preview you cutting an engine case I was immediately interested! I didn’t realize you’d go so in depth and show all the different methods and fuck ups. You can’t teach without showing your failures. Great videos, can’t wait to see that motor actually propel a wheelie 🤙🏼🤙🏼
@Sevi_4738
@Sevi_4738 6 месяцев назад
I love it when someone does something that normally requires a lot of experience and expensive equipment on their own without much prior knowledge and with the simplest tools. keep it up :)
@wurthmannd024
@wurthmannd024 6 месяцев назад
was glad to see the bearings removed before the gears went into treatment haha
@isaacclark6749
@isaacclark6749 6 месяцев назад
It's been so fun watching your skills progress over the years.
@hemidart7
@hemidart7 6 месяцев назад
The bloopers at the end are funny as hell 😂 Maybe a white board behind the camera for big explanations, like q-cards will help
@Tomshifter002
@Tomshifter002 6 месяцев назад
This guy is incredible -- every year gets better and smarter!
@dcktater7847
@dcktater7847 6 месяцев назад
* yeah incredibly stupid
@b1g_ben-473
@b1g_ben-473 6 месяцев назад
Bloopers are a blast keep’em coming Betty Crocker lol
@benschlack5814
@benschlack5814 6 месяцев назад
I ain't going to lie I'm pretty excited about this build. Whatever happens it's going to be a great video
@Del350K4
@Del350K4 6 месяцев назад
I found this video fascinating! Thanks, Chris, for being so methodical and thorough in your approach.
@rickshaw3005
@rickshaw3005 6 месяцев назад
When things break your just learning a weak link. Really cool project you have going on.sounds like fun
@johnathantaylor2059
@johnathantaylor2059 6 месяцев назад
Please leave more bloopers that was the best…get to see the more real side of things
@joselinares-eu7mc
@joselinares-eu7mc 6 месяцев назад
Outstanding..your willingness to explore new techniques is very impressive..
@SuperTylerjames
@SuperTylerjames 6 месяцев назад
Those bloopers are hilarious!!!! 😂😂😂😂 I love the videos!!!! Keep up the good work!!
@mehmethanaydn3113
@mehmethanaydn3113 6 месяцев назад
testing gear hardness and it's perfect to experience this test yourself Congratulations👍
@flynnmcclellan1788
@flynnmcclellan1788 6 месяцев назад
dude youre such a wizard. I want to be you when I grow up
@BlackAndBlueGarage
@BlackAndBlueGarage 6 месяцев назад
Love the video. Your outtakes are the real struggle and I totally feel that lol
@BanksRacing11
@BanksRacing11 6 месяцев назад
Don't forget to pull the seals off those bearings another great video keep up the good work.
@macbilling6410
@macbilling6410 6 месяцев назад
Fantastic work and engineering. Look forward to the next video
@cameronf1460
@cameronf1460 6 месяцев назад
I really appreciate the "bloopers" at the end
@HandyDan
@HandyDan 6 месяцев назад
Awesome project, been following all along! I worked as a Tool & Die maker, we hardened steel all the time, A2, D2, P1, O1, 1080... all seem to be close. 2,000° for 30 minutes per inch thick, let air cool to 100°, set back in at 400° for 1 hour per inch to draw back. Avg Rockwell C 59 to 60 hardness. You're very close.
@testdevice989
@testdevice989 6 месяцев назад
You didn't mention the quenching step
@HandyDan
@HandyDan 6 месяцев назад
@testdevice989 in my tool and die job we put the part in a stainless steel envelope that we folded from sheet we put in a small piece of wood to burn off the oxygen, 2000 degrees for 3o minutes per inch, then cool down, put back at 400 for an hour or so to draw back any brittleness, no quenching.
@paul5683
@paul5683 6 месяцев назад
2000 Fahrenheit for heat treating hss. Most air hardening steels like a2, s7, h13 is more like 1750. Oil hardened steel more like 1650 .
@JoesRcAdventures
@JoesRcAdventures 6 месяцев назад
LOVE the clips at the end.. I so know the frustration 😂
@drakos2000
@drakos2000 6 месяцев назад
I would have definitely temper those, even though they are only case hardened. You give up a little hardness for a lot more toughness. I love your videos! Keep it up!
@barnett25
@barnett25 6 месяцев назад
Yup, just put them in an oven at about 425f for an hour. Let them cool on their own.
@ratherBweldingChris
@ratherBweldingChris 6 месяцев назад
I thought about tempering them but some of the videos I watched said you don’t need to, so I didn’t. Hopefully I won’t regret that decision
@barnett25
@barnett25 6 месяцев назад
@@ratherBweldingChrisI am mostly familiar with hardening for knife making, which is a bit different than case hardening for gears. Looking around a bit it appears that the hard skin on a tough center brings special properties that are useful in gears, so it may be that tempering isn't needed for this specific use case. It is lots of fun seeing you learn new skills for these projects. I have been watching since the lathe build days and am constantly impressed with your skills and mind for engineering.
@thomasbonnett2283
@thomasbonnett2283 6 месяцев назад
Great video and explanations. Thanks for all the behind the scenes work and frustration you endure for us to enjoy your projects
@georqedubyakush6066
@georqedubyakush6066 6 месяцев назад
We had to harden a set of gears and did it with a leaf blower fed $20 Walmart grill lined with concrete, its still in one piece after a few years of use. Hardening and tempering feels like a dark magic to me
@martinprice3487
@martinprice3487 6 месяцев назад
Just watched all 3 episodes I need more 🤣 cracking job mate 👍
@waynecothill3759
@waynecothill3759 6 месяцев назад
Your fabrication skills are top notch. Enjoy watching your channel immensely. Keep it up. Hope you make some coin in the process.
@loudelvis610
@loudelvis610 6 месяцев назад
We know why you do this you are nuts in a good way
@Bmlventura
@Bmlventura 6 месяцев назад
Great work man!! Can’t wait to see that thing finished
@Thicc.-gf9xg
@Thicc.-gf9xg 6 месяцев назад
It's that day of the week ❤
@nathanpennell1587
@nathanpennell1587 6 месяцев назад
Awesome content dude. Love to see exactly how everything is done in good detail.
@danielfriday-ux2oz
@danielfriday-ux2oz 6 месяцев назад
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who gets mad at the air.
@michaelblacktree
@michaelblacktree 6 месяцев назад
Neato! You've really upped your game with this build. 👍
@casey360360
@casey360360 6 месяцев назад
typically when you harden parts like this, you want to cool them in the kiln, doing so significantly increases the time to cool meaning you essentially eliminate the possibility of the steel developing micro-fractures in its grain pattern. When we built gears for high performance transmissions, our kilns had a cool-down function that would cool the parts over the course of 48 hours. We were building for 2,000+ hp though, I don't think you need to go that far.
@lewiscunliffe1051
@lewiscunliffe1051 6 месяцев назад
Chris cool as a cucumber..slightly losing it over some charcoal never seen you get frustrated and even then it’s still tame 😂 love it buddy doing everything yourself as per usual to bring these cracking projects to us all. Also you said it wasn’t a tutorial for hardening, but you just created one and I hope it brings in more viewers 👍🏻
@borgey1000
@borgey1000 5 месяцев назад
Love the build and the bloopers 😅
@caseybinion806
@caseybinion806 6 месяцев назад
Looking good that cool knowing how to Harding steel can’t wait for next video 😊
@Rancidtimes
@Rancidtimes 6 месяцев назад
Best outtakes I've seen in awhile, thanks..😂
@sethcrawford6219
@sethcrawford6219 6 месяцев назад
The ending 😂😂😂 I haven’t laughed that hard in years I appreciate you showing the bloopers
@michaelcrebbin7328
@michaelcrebbin7328 6 месяцев назад
Great job Chris loved the outro showing how hard it can be to make RU-vid videos loved it brother ❤❤
@jamest.5001
@jamest.5001 6 месяцев назад
I'd go over the gears teeth with a soft wire brush especially the tips to smooth the edges. Maybe sand them with 1000 grit paper, moving to about 3000 finish with around 5000. Basically polishing the teeth. But sanding with the teeth, not across them. Maybe trying diamond compound after hardening, to polish them, but something like this it's not really required. Having smooth gears that can hold oil in the surface will run cooler and wear less.
@itarry4
@itarry4 6 месяцев назад
Went a bit OTT with the testing thing but appreciate the effort you're going through to ensure this all works as well as possible. This is by far the best Emotorbike you've done. Can't wait to see what it'll be like when finished still think a Equad or Etrike would be an epic build.
@danielumpleby5338
@danielumpleby5338 6 месяцев назад
Love the bloopers 😂 shows how hard you work on editing and how difficult it is to explain it all in a way we can understand. Keep up the good work matey
@monsieurbacteria2314
@monsieurbacteria2314 6 месяцев назад
Another great video! So inspirational, one day I hope to have a workshop like this to do such projects. Keep up the awesome work!
@JoelArseneaultYouTube
@JoelArseneaultYouTube 6 месяцев назад
At the end.... I feel your struggle. I make videos as well, and I go through this pretty much every time I talk to the camera.
@robertmccully2792
@robertmccully2792 6 месяцев назад
10x better the miniature last build.
@dylanwalker5450
@dylanwalker5450 6 месяцев назад
I think the primary drive gear being 2x+ the diameter it's halving the tooth load, so 2x+ the torque won't matter. If it's a thing you could put another transfer gear on the other side. Neat project!
@juscozcustoms
@juscozcustoms 6 месяцев назад
the blooper reel makes me feel better about how many times I can't do words while recording
@jesseheldt4501
@jesseheldt4501 6 месяцев назад
I've been watching you for years, probably close to the beginning, I like how you improve every video!!
@Goatee_yay
@Goatee_yay 6 месяцев назад
This was some of your best work! Great video!
@calicojack7264
@calicojack7264 6 месяцев назад
thank you for the bloopers - 3am laughing out loud -
@waynerogers379
@waynerogers379 6 месяцев назад
Hey man at least with the testing and the purchase of the kiln once you get it right you never have to worry about finding the right gear you need or even waiting on delivery, you can just knock one up in the shed that's pretty awesome 😃
@ReynoldsThemeparkAdventures
@ReynoldsThemeparkAdventures 6 месяцев назад
The bloopers! 👌🏻🤣 We're only human dude and all still learning new thing's. We're just glad we can learn along the way with you! Keep it up Chris, definitely gonna be one of your best e-moto to date. 💯👊🏻
@bryduhbikeguy
@bryduhbikeguy 6 месяцев назад
I used to CNC axles from blanks, and then later after heat treating use a grinder CNC to polish the bearing surfaces,This is similar to what you went through with your gears.The sizes do change.Also,the long slow heating, and then slow cooling tempers well too without the brittleness .
@aigoru8718
@aigoru8718 6 месяцев назад
Dude, it'll be fine. Keep on trucking.
@thefixerman1
@thefixerman1 6 месяцев назад
Simply brilliant Chris. Such an interesting project with many new challenges to master. Your adding more and more new skills to your repertoire too. Looking good and very well done!
@SurlyMike
@SurlyMike 6 месяцев назад
Always impressive man. I never would have thought when I subscribed so long ago that I would be watching you doing such an interesting process. From welding together simple minibikes and go-karts, making your own gear boxes, full suspension buggies, and mad machining skills, you just keep raising the bar. I look forward to what we'll all see in the years to come.
@richball9576
@richball9576 6 месяцев назад
I think they'll be fine Chris. You did all you can do to ensure success. Give it hell brother!
@BillWrites-t2e
@BillWrites-t2e 6 месяцев назад
I like to use a strip of notebook paper between the gears then tighten up the bolts to hold everything . Then pull the paper and the gears run smoothly and have room to heat up.
@beauadkins7561
@beauadkins7561 5 месяцев назад
Alot of people dream of winning the lottery. Mine is to have a homie or family member who can do all this stuff. Can u imagine the money you'd save on mechanics and/parts. Nah, rather b , just make me this part n throw it on for a beer n a handshake,lol. I wasn't ever thought any of this stuff so this shit amazes me.
@_zzpza
@_zzpza 6 месяцев назад
This is fantastic, really well done!
@dadsfriendlyrobotcompany
@dadsfriendlyrobotcompany 6 месяцев назад
I'm hearing you on the outtakes. Figuring out how to collect your thoughts enough to explain what you are doing is harder than hell! Especially when you are also learning from the thing you are doing.
@jamie_grieve
@jamie_grieve 6 месяцев назад
For setting then checking the gear mesh use strips of paper. That’ll get you the right backlash then when you pull a strip through after you’ve set it up, it’ll curve away from the tight side if there is one.
@rodrigoleite2108
@rodrigoleite2108 6 месяцев назад
Pretty nice video ! Back to the basics to remember how to machine those gears 🤓
@hagalien
@hagalien 6 месяцев назад
last 5 min is hillarious!!!
@dbdors
@dbdors 6 месяцев назад
Smart to mark them with stamps, was wondering how to keep them straight.
@treeweel
@treeweel 6 месяцев назад
Это достаточно круто, самостоятельно изготовить шестерни может не каждый, ваш опыт действительно поражает. Дальнейших вам успехов в вашем творчестве.
@mguarin912
@mguarin912 6 месяцев назад
Your shop reminds me of where it all began….my grandfather’s little shop.
@hambonefpv6704
@hambonefpv6704 6 месяцев назад
You should get a test indicator to check the face runout on the lathe. Indicating for one spot only lets you know that section is running true. Checking face runout over O.D. runout in your setup will better the chances of a parallel part. That’s also a good way to get your chucks running true on the adapter plate to the lathe spindle.
@hambonefpv6704
@hambonefpv6704 6 месяцев назад
Not knocking on your machining skills at all. I’m actually very impressed at the level you take your builds to, and the growth you’ve had in machining.
@hambonefpv6704
@hambonefpv6704 6 месяцев назад
You would really benefit from getting a machinist handbook.
@matthewf1979
@matthewf1979 6 месяцев назад
Thankfully, you can tune the torque curve on the motor controller! I think the bike transmission will handle it as long as you’re not dumping full torque off the line. Just be careful with the wheel speed and jumps.
@josealmeida8731
@josealmeida8731 6 месяцев назад
Those 5 last minutes theeeyy, iissh were aaa er, great😂. Keep going cheer up
@HarryRenner-h9q
@HarryRenner-h9q 6 месяцев назад
Stainless steel is also not magnetized. There's always those ifs, that you have to go through the first time. but then after you have done it once the fear of the unknown goes away and it gets better. and you're confidence level increases and it becomes second nature. and after doing something many many times it comes a point where it becomes boring. then you have reached expertise level. everyone goes though this. now you can add metallurgy to your expertise as a machinist.
@littlerambo
@littlerambo 6 месяцев назад
This project is so cool
@Sydthesloth45
@Sydthesloth45 6 месяцев назад
That was very informative and accurate 👌 👏 👍 😀
@Johnyeye2
@Johnyeye2 6 месяцев назад
Consider heating them at 300 deg F for 1 hour to draw them back. This will improve the grain structure and add some toughness.
@cocosloan3748
@cocosloan3748 6 месяцев назад
Amazing job. So educational 👍👍
@dylandaviesdiptych
@dylandaviesdiptych 6 месяцев назад
Great vid, you had me rolling at the ending blooper reels... :) Thanks for adding those, and appreciate the struggle!
@ryandoyle4344
@ryandoyle4344 6 месяцев назад
Enjoy the build; Gears should be durable. However, a Gear Drive Timing Set (timing chain) may be a backup or provide some inspiration.
@enigma9789
@enigma9789 6 месяцев назад
Love the bloopers man! Seems like the gears came out great!
@Jarda_B
@Jarda_B 6 месяцев назад
37:35 😂 This is true no shame editing where you can actually see how much work goes into this videos.
@cayminlast
@cayminlast 6 месяцев назад
Cut strips of computer printing paper and place them in between the gears by rolling them through the gear mesh to get the lash.
@projectbumblejeep4190
@projectbumblejeep4190 6 месяцев назад
Love the out takes. But seriously, great job. Don't be afraid, just send it.
@chemicalvamp
@chemicalvamp 6 месяцев назад
Careful with neodymium magnets around heat, it does not take much to lose magnetism on them.
@josephwantz4035
@josephwantz4035 6 месяцев назад
Ye of little faith idk why you keep doubting yourself Chris you are a very talented fabricator,if you put your mind into it you will get it done good job on the build brother keep up the good work
@engineer323
@engineer323 6 месяцев назад
After quenching, a low tempering is done at a temperature of 200 degrees Celsius or 392 Fahrenheit, at this point the gears are “glass”. Tempering is done to normalize the internal structure of the metal after hardening. the hardness will decrease slightly but the resistance to dynamic loads will increase. We heat the gear in an oven at a proven temperature and let it cool along with the oven.
@TheCorrupterX
@TheCorrupterX 6 месяцев назад
the only way to tell your hardness and surface hardness are with rockwell and microrockwell (maybe brinell? I forget) testers, so you can test the surface hardness vs the deeper core hardness. they just press different things into the metal with a certain force and it tells you a number. not cheap, but you might be able to buy a used one cheap one since you don't need calibration certifications or anything.
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