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Hardtail Vise Build Ep. 2 

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As we continue on with machining the castings for the USA Hardtail vise, we'll set up the main body and machine the anvil and tail mounting surfaces. These dimensions are important to establish because other dimensions are taken and measured from these surfaces. I'll have a followup video showing the machining of the fixed jaw mounting location. #abom79 #manualmachining #machineshop #hardtailvise #vise #madeinusa
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@phreakmode
@phreakmode 9 месяцев назад
I liked this video, like I do 99% of your others. The reason for this one is that yet again you show your mistakes. In an online world that deems editted perfection to drive user engagement, I apreciate the humanity you bring.
@RobertGracie
@RobertGracie 9 месяцев назад
Precisely what I need after work, an Abom79 video keep these coming!!
@TheHunterLord
@TheHunterLord 9 месяцев назад
If you want to pretty that step up, get the appropriate sized ball mill and run it across that step. It will look great.
@bobbyvance6622
@bobbyvance6622 9 месяцев назад
He could do it on the CNC Mill with a ball nose end mill.
@2696kyle
@2696kyle 9 месяцев назад
My thoughts exactly, I think that would look great!
@Tinman97301
@Tinman97301 9 месяцев назад
Was my first thoughts too👍
@rainerpenner8202
@rainerpenner8202 9 месяцев назад
​@@bobbyvance6622 I would have thought he would get the cad file and do a full cnc surfacing job on the main body to make it look unique
@shadow_stalk
@shadow_stalk 9 месяцев назад
Glad i didnt have to make this comment!
@deemstyle
@deemstyle 9 месяцев назад
Good video content- but I also wanted to acknowledge the excellent camera work. As someone who has created project videos in the past, I can really appreciate the extra effort for setting up a camera simply to show us brushing anchor lube onto the tap! Lol! Good stuff
@LarrysMachineShop
@LarrysMachineShop 9 месяцев назад
Always great!! I love this channel. This and CEE are my favorites
@davidtaylor3544
@davidtaylor3544 9 месяцев назад
Your videos are very cool! I like seeing a professional like you go through the steps.
@user-jh8xd7qs6f
@user-jh8xd7qs6f 9 месяцев назад
Hi im Jamie from Adelaide South Australia . Very nice work . love watching your vids . Thats why we like to buy American products . "GOOD QUALITY" . Thanks bye .
@billmckillip1561
@billmckillip1561 9 месяцев назад
A good example how castings are a pain in the butt! People are suggesting a ball-end mill, which would work, but a few licks with a round file would probably look good and save a set up. Good video.
@trainman2860
@trainman2860 9 месяцев назад
Use a round end mill to finish off the step at the back of the anvil.
@pingwax.
@pingwax. 9 месяцев назад
I like this suggestion; the little step isn't bad - I like where it sits. A nice radius in there will dress it up perfectly.
@garyhardwick8489
@garyhardwick8489 9 месяцев назад
I never cease to be amazed by your skills at machining metal. Can't wait for the next episode.
@Hellsatanx
@Hellsatanx 9 месяцев назад
I watch a lot of people on here build all kinds of stuff, but you seem to be the only one with sharpened drills, what a joy it is to watch a real machinist work.
@jeffmcgee5394
@jeffmcgee5394 9 месяцев назад
You can use a needle scaler to blend the grind marks to look more like the original cast.
@texxasal
@texxasal 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for a really well made and informative video. Having watched your channel almost from the beginning I'm sure that both your dad and grandfather would be most proud of the shop you built and the way you maintain it.
@trevorpberg
@trevorpberg 9 месяцев назад
Love watching this as I am from Spokane where this vice was made!
@JimGriffOne
@JimGriffOne 9 месяцев назад
15:38 - Spot on! You gotta love it!
@jeremyhess7977
@jeremyhess7977 9 месяцев назад
Yup! Nine inches, dead nuts.... it's a great feeling when you get a dimensionally perfect finish cut.
@Ideasite
@Ideasite 9 месяцев назад
This is a great project! Really enjoying the machining of some chunky stuff. Thanks for all the hard work. Your channel is really well produced!
@billabernathy1541
@billabernathy1541 9 месяцев назад
Lots of naysayers, Adam. It's your life, so do what makes you happy. I still enjoy watching your content. Keep it up, sir.
@jrmintz1
@jrmintz1 9 месяцев назад
Adam, I love the way that something being functionally acceptable isn't good enough - you have to be happy with the way it looks too.
@user-ny8mh4tn8i
@user-ny8mh4tn8i 9 месяцев назад
Lol. I would like to be the 4000 person to mention a ball style end mill 😂 kidding. Awesome video Aaron.
@maxwallace6628
@maxwallace6628 9 месяцев назад
H i Adam, I have been watching your videos since you started and look forward to each new one. Keep up the good work!
@crazyjoe6679
@crazyjoe6679 9 месяцев назад
I’m really glad that your doing this build it’s nice to see ya doing what you’re passionate about. And back to the old days of some really good content. I appreciate you sharing with us. And I love all your videos. Just feel like you’re doing something that reminded me of your older videos. Thank you bud
@x_ph1l
@x_ph1l 9 месяцев назад
People usually don't appreciate how much work goes into making something like a vice
@x_ph1l
@x_ph1l 9 месяцев назад
I'm not saying that it is difficult, just saying that there's many operations to turn cast part into a working vice. @@SteveColluns-hm2xx
@zoltannagy1813
@zoltannagy1813 9 месяцев назад
I would blend that step on the anvil face with a radius cutter eg. a "ball nose" endmill.
@blacksupra10
@blacksupra10 9 месяцев назад
i see that giant flex in the background and wonder how quick it would blast this casting to dimension...
@rockyallen907
@rockyallen907 9 месяцев назад
You should be able to blend that anvil with a ball mill. Should be rather simple. Should look really good with a radius. Great video thanks for sharing
@GAS1950
@GAS1950 9 месяцев назад
Adam Could You Bolt It Back On The Table And Run A Ball Mill Over That Step And Have A nice Radius There
@mdvener
@mdvener 9 месяцев назад
The knowledge you have is found in not many others. What you have is so great to see and used in a way that is very specific, that's why what ever you do always looks great.
@martineastburn3679
@martineastburn3679 9 месяцев назад
Might run a Ball nose down that and clean it up. Do a curve fix on the back of the Anvil.
@improviseddiy
@improviseddiy 9 месяцев назад
I would blend the anvil and base radii with a ball mill.
@sharkrivermachine
@sharkrivermachine 9 месяцев назад
Use a ball end mill to ease the radius. I would look good.
@ReiniGrauer
@ReiniGrauer 9 месяцев назад
I think a 1" ball end mill would probably quickly clean up the little whoopsie on the anvil and look good.
@MySynthDungeon
@MySynthDungeon 9 месяцев назад
Really enjoyed!!Nicely done ,,Tight,Tidy! Cheers!;-)!!
@user-vn6hi2bi3g
@user-vn6hi2bi3g 9 месяцев назад
This is headed to be the G O A T of vices! Ray
@CannaMike420
@CannaMike420 9 месяцев назад
Love the process !
@frankkoppen7281
@frankkoppen7281 9 месяцев назад
I milled a step in my real anvil. Very useful. Like 15 years ago.
@carlbyington5185
@carlbyington5185 9 месяцев назад
Mad respect for you Adam, always have..... just wish you were back into the "more vid time" & "more machining"
@SiboBushings
@SiboBushings 9 месяцев назад
Nice to see such a neat and tidy workplace, congratulations 😉
@russellwhite8890
@russellwhite8890 9 месяцев назад
Everybody makes mistakes and you make very few, so just call it custom! 😀
@bcbloc02
@bcbloc02 9 месяцев назад
Coming right along!
@user-dn4iv2ne6r
@user-dn4iv2ne6r 9 месяцев назад
CNC's aside, it seems to me that, once the prototype setup is done, ten more could be completed in the same amount of time. Perhaps that is what you and Jason have in mind. Once things are worked out, the FlexCNC would seem to be the obvious choice to crank out a production order. In fact, I would really like to see that.
@angelramos-2005
@angelramos-2005 9 месяцев назад
So far so good,Adam.Thank you for your hard work.
@rodneywroten2994
@rodneywroten2994 9 месяцев назад
awesome milling
@jimforsyth2.
@jimforsyth2. 9 месяцев назад
It's so good to see abomb do the abomb thing again
@kaydog2008
@kaydog2008 9 месяцев назад
A round end mill would work well on those two steps or a chamfer bit.🤔🤔
@lukeb3930
@lukeb3930 9 месяцев назад
Yeah touch off on a paper receipt then do it purty ❤
@WreckDiver99
@WreckDiver99 9 месяцев назад
That step you put in? 1/4" or 1/8" Ball end mill and make it a fillet. Just don't go all the way end to end, and I think it will work.
@mohabatkhanmalak1161
@mohabatkhanmalak1161 9 месяцев назад
Some critical machinning there. I see there are two sets of parallel lines to machine by, the bottom and inside rails and the side flange and jaw face. The two sets have to be a perfect 90 deg angle to eachother for the vice to be spot on.💫
@hughobrien4139
@hughobrien4139 9 месяцев назад
I sure enjoy this project. Thank you for sharing.
@Zt3v3
@Zt3v3 9 месяцев назад
I would clean up that step with a ball nose end mill or by hand.
@machinists-shortcuts
@machinists-shortcuts 8 месяцев назад
Or use a button insert face mill for the whole face.
@MikeBaxterABC
@MikeBaxterABC 9 месяцев назад
9:55 I think that's a good plan Adam! ... think that little strip there, will become invisible, once the vise is in use for a few months, some hammer strikes some file marks and weld splatter :) will make it bled right in! ... no worries! This vice is MEANT to be used daily!! :) .. the 45° cutter will work great! :)
@richard-jz1qd
@richard-jz1qd 9 месяцев назад
Supposed to be machined near perfect; the task being to show that the machining done by team USA in some way trumps that of those machined in Taiwan, thus at least in part, justifying the hugely inflated price tag. Or what you might be required to do in industry; say to machine a few samples ( along with CMM measured data sheets) to prove to the customer that you can consistently machine the part to spec, in order to win the contract to make a batch of them. No need to be within a thou from nominal for a dimension with a 10 thou tolerance, but do need your finishes to be absent of ringing, the interface of machining to cast surface, whether stepped or radiused, to be correct and all the drilled and tapped holes to be in the right places.
@jefflee6711
@jefflee6711 9 месяцев назад
Pro tip: when you loosen a bunch of bolts get some cheap colored fridge magnets (preferably in a high vis color) and drop them on every bolt you loosen. Then when you tighten them you can pull them off so you know you did it. You can also count how many you put on and then match the count when you think you're done.
@michaelhompus2475
@michaelhompus2475 8 месяцев назад
Every time I watch one of your videos, I am impressed by your craftsmanship in setting-up, aligning and machining the metal. BTW, isn't it so that a threaded fastener in a threaded hole is called a screw, and it is called a bolt only when a nut is involved? Absolutely no offense intended, but in my native language (Dutch) things may be different than in American English. I keep following your channel when time permits!
@petermcneill80
@petermcneill80 8 месяцев назад
Great job , think a wee burl with a ball nose end mill as other commenters have said would be good I was more concerned with who took the casting lines out with a grinder and a blindfold , it’s a shame as Jason has a decent video out on angle grinding neatly to a high standard he needs to show this to whoever he had grind up that casting not being negative I love your work and have been a subscriber for years 👍🏻
@steveNCB7754
@steveNCB7754 9 месяцев назад
Adam, I think there's an issue with the 4 holes (or at least two of them) that you just drilled and tapped for fixing the tail to the rear of the vice. My ex-draughtsman's senses twitched when, having seen you spot the centres of the 'top' two holes (those adjacent to the Anvil), that you then just trammed straight 'down' to the do the same for the two near the base flange. My concern, was that I was sure that the two bottom ones, look to be on a wider pitch than those up by the Anvil. Quickly looking back in the video at the rear of the finished vice fixed to your bench, seems to confirm this. Going the extra mile, I've also referred back to the first episode, where you let us see the drawing Jason supplied. On it, there is indeed only one dimension (2.500") for the 4 x 5/16-18 UNC threads, but if you hold a ruler along the inner vertical face of the casting there, you can clearly see that the upper hole is inside of that line, whilst the lower one is outside of the line. In other words, the lower pair of holes are on a wider pitch than the 2.500" of the upper ones. Makes sense - presumably, without the cut-outs in the upper flange (either side of the Anvil), all four flange bolts would be at the wider pitch of the lower two. The lower two definitely need to be out that far, in order to be able to access them with an Allen key for assembly/dis-assembly. They'll be hidden awkwardly under the vice tail, if pitched the same as those up by the Anvil.
@chainspending6343
@chainspending6343 9 месяцев назад
Snap Steven, I thought the same myself mate
@richard-jz1qd
@richard-jz1qd 9 месяцев назад
Adam doesn't often do stuff to a supplied drawing ( post his time at Motion). And sometimes he makes his own drawing. He had a similar problem on the Fairbanks Power hammer project a couple of years back. In industry, I believe that a customer's drawing goes into the QC to get checked for missing dimensions, incompatible dimensions, or any other discrepancies. That way , when a part is made on the machine, it does not tie down the machine in down time waiting for a drawing problem reply from the client.
@richard-jz1qd
@richard-jz1qd 9 месяцев назад
@@chainspending6343 At 2.44 says it all. But crickets from other viewers on this ( mistake?). Hmm.
@plainnpretty
@plainnpretty 9 месяцев назад
Nice job thanks Adam
@geckoproductions4128
@geckoproductions4128 9 месяцев назад
Interesting video Adam, thanks
@stabilini
@stabilini 9 месяцев назад
Just think about Adam ! thanks!
@peterdolamore7808
@peterdolamore7808 9 месяцев назад
Maybe a ball end mill to round out the step on the pad ?
@imbett900
@imbett900 9 месяцев назад
I was interrupted two times by ads. So I finished this abo.
@DERTOBL
@DERTOBL 9 месяцев назад
How is RU-vids agressive advertising for their premium crap Aboms fault??
@6NBERLS
@6NBERLS 9 месяцев назад
Most excellent.
@GRANITEMONUMENT
@GRANITEMONUMENT 9 месяцев назад
I liked that 9. 0000 , that third and fourth zero are skill, the first two are equipment and tooling..
@demonknight7965
@demonknight7965 9 месяцев назад
Leave it. It adds character. It looks fine
@dennissheridan1550
@dennissheridan1550 9 месяцев назад
Adam, let me start by saying I am not a machinist, with that out of the way I think a ball end mill would do the trick on that little step on the anvil face. As for the rear face me thinks a face mill with a rounded edge would have done a good job with the radius.
@jackshett
@jackshett 9 месяцев назад
I would have just blended it in with a round cutter to get rid of most of the step
@tjuggernaut29
@tjuggernaut29 9 месяцев назад
you could take a ball endmill to blend in that step on the anvil
@garychaiken808
@garychaiken808 9 месяцев назад
Good job 😊
@alancharie9608
@alancharie9608 9 месяцев назад
Use face mill with round inserts
@jakebronger3568
@jakebronger3568 9 месяцев назад
2nd that
@markramsell454
@markramsell454 9 месяцев назад
Do you have a 1.5 in ball mill? I think that radius would look better where the steps are.
@19672701
@19672701 9 месяцев назад
Cool video,I like the order of operations you've outlined for this. Be cool on the tail extension to mill your logo into,being you have the CNC. maybe do the West Weld mod to it? Cant wait to see what comes next!
@jackrichards1863
@jackrichards1863 9 месяцев назад
I'm wondering if there is a reason for not using a bull nose cutter(the wrong term?) to remove the double step on the anvil part? I'd think a curved corner would look neat and dissipate shock from a square edge.
@bulletproofpepper2
@bulletproofpepper2 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing.
@tomoakhill8825
@tomoakhill8825 9 месяцев назад
As I watch Adam machining this vise I keep thinking, "Yep, now _that_ is MADE IN U.S.A."
@mikebrowne5152
@mikebrowne5152 9 месяцев назад
I would probably blend that down with an angle grinder. so far so good.
@frankcerovsky2662
@frankcerovsky2662 9 месяцев назад
Love that hat... I think I need one
@JohnWheels
@JohnWheels 9 месяцев назад
I would blend that step on the anvil in with a band file.
@JohnWheels
@JohnWheels 9 месяцев назад
Then you can get hit that area and the other ground areas with a needle scalar to blend in that cast finish
@3866TIM
@3866TIM 9 месяцев назад
Blend with ball end mill
@jackpledger8118
@jackpledger8118 9 месяцев назад
Adam, wouldn't the setup for that been much easier on the K&T horizontal mill in your home shop?
@user-eg7cj9dq2o
@user-eg7cj9dq2o 9 месяцев назад
I'm sure he'll blend those steps with a flapper wheel... The one's the was left on the anvil part of the vise... And going to look good.
@wmweekendwarrior1166
@wmweekendwarrior1166 9 месяцев назад
Good stuff
@benpeterson9835
@benpeterson9835 9 месяцев назад
Mill the step off and leave a pocket without cutting into the radius of the casting . That would look best imo . Sweet vice tho
@FireGodSpeed
@FireGodSpeed 9 месяцев назад
all he has to do is get a ballnose endmill and mill the step out, which will leave a nice radius too (he can reach way further out because its a smaller diameter). But i guess thats too much work or some XD
@ericdouglas9804
@ericdouglas9804 9 месяцев назад
Well I can’t critique the machining because it’s spot on, but, you could always run a ball nose end mill along that step or just say that I left it there for a square reference point 😂. And aren’t the jaws going to be a little wonky if you only rotate it a 100 degrees for the next op 😎😎😎😂😂😂😂. I just wanted to pick on you and be “your usual commentator “. Carry on mate 👍👍😜
@TonyHammitt
@TonyHammitt 9 месяцев назад
I think you could probably ease that step off with a file in a few minutes. Or leave it as a reminder to double check things. In my youth, I went out drinking with the wrong sorts of folks and one of them ended up sucker punching me and chipped one of my teeth. I can still feel the chip, it's a daily reminder to double check who I'm hanging out with.
@93jdmmike
@93jdmmike 9 месяцев назад
Nice work as always buddy I wish you lived closer to me. I would like to get a couple a couple things machined
@Birdhouseboi810
@Birdhouseboi810 9 месяцев назад
You could always ship to him. He has machined a few items for viewers and made a video about it.
@93jdmmike
@93jdmmike 9 месяцев назад
@@Birdhouseboi810 I wouldn’t even know how to do that and the type of work that he does. He’s probably really expensive but you pay for what you get definitely.
@Birdhouseboi810
@Birdhouseboi810 9 месяцев назад
@@93jdmmike I think people usually email him with all the specs on what they want, then ship it to him. But I'd assume he's pretty expensive but you're 100% correct you get what you pay for. I'd say he's one of the top machinists on youtube if not the US. I enjoy his videos a lot, because although I'm a welder by trade. I do understand and want to buy my own mill and lathe to do my own machining.
@93jdmmike
@93jdmmike 9 месяцев назад
@@Birdhouseboi810 yes I believe so. I’ve been watching him for many many years. Love the content.
@arkiefyler
@arkiefyler 9 месяцев назад
Looking at the "standard", purchased vice, there is a "lip" t the same place Abom is concerned about. I assume (dangerous as that is!) that milling surfaces into a casting often will show slight differences between each original item. That "lip" or edge will likely be in all finished pieces.
@richardandrews6754
@richardandrews6754 9 месяцев назад
how about blending in the anvil with a ball mill or just dress in the casting to blend into the machined surface
@mindmaze128
@mindmaze128 9 месяцев назад
Blend that step with a flap disk and I’m sure you wont even notice anything.
@phillipyannone3195
@phillipyannone3195 9 месяцев назад
Remember when Tom Lipton made the baby bullet? Maybe you could do some engine turning on that anvil face, dress it up a little.😊
@thisolesignguy2733
@thisolesignguy2733 9 месяцев назад
Hey Adam, is there a reason you used standard taps on that cast iron and not a roll-over tap? I was always told to use roll-over taps on cast iron because it's a stronger thread and doesn't rip out. Or is it not really necessary?
@ADBBuild
@ADBBuild 9 месяцев назад
Rolled threads are generally stronger than cut threads (in any material), but that doesn't mean cut threads aren't strong.
@heateslier
@heateslier 9 месяцев назад
see the problems in manufacturing a product that was initially designed as a welding project and got changed to use cast parts without much thought given to ease of assembly
@terryryerson9848
@terryryerson9848 9 месяцев назад
I may be over thinking; I see you are square front to back with the faceplate but what about left to right? I would call it slop from the holes.
@pault4513
@pault4513 9 месяцев назад
Could have taken a scrap piece of plate steel drilled 2 holes to fit the angle plate and 2 holes to fir the vice then counter bored them and used counter sunk bolts and not modified a nice tool
@jamiequesenberry821
@jamiequesenberry821 9 месяцев назад
Need updates on the property you bought and how you are going to setup the house and shop or is that still in future plans
@ernie6772
@ernie6772 9 месяцев назад
What would be the harm if that anvil surface were left higher and add to the reference for the bolt pattern below?
@machinists-shortcuts
@machinists-shortcuts 8 месяцев назад
Or work from the datum base for the hole positions.
@MikeBaxterABC
@MikeBaxterABC 9 месяцев назад
17:23 .. and .. 18:03 .. Is that just me? Or does Adam keep calling the Swivel or Turret, on the milling machine a "Turr-ant" ??
@GRANITEMONUMENT
@GRANITEMONUMENT 9 месяцев назад
I have trouble understanding how the edge finder works, it seems very subjective to me, once it stops wiggling and becomes perfectly strait, one would think is your edge, but I see almost everyone who uses one, go past the perfectly strait, and seem to make it spin smoothly but slightly offset? Unless there is marks on the top that become visible once it’s slightly offset? And no one has shown this assuming everyone knows??
@dayofmone
@dayofmone 9 месяцев назад
Since you won't be able to tell by eye when both parts of the edge finder are perfectly concentric, you go past that point until it kicks out to the side, which is by probably around 1mm in metric (Yes, it kicks out by 1mm even if you only go past the edge of the part by 0,01). This makes it easy to spot when you found the edge, it is without problem repeatable within 0,01mm in error as well, which is more than accurate enough for almost any purpose bar extremely high precision parts.
@jamest.5001
@jamest.5001 9 месяцев назад
14:15 this part needs to be taller, so it can be wider/longer
@user-oe3dr9ij8k
@user-oe3dr9ij8k 9 месяцев назад
speed step
@dakavanagh
@dakavanagh 9 месяцев назад
Looking at 2:10 in the video, the bottom tapped holes are wider than the top. I wondered if you would catch that. I suspect they did that so it's easier to reach the screw head.
@richard-jz1qd
@richard-jz1qd 9 месяцев назад
Normally, rectangular flanges have their mounting holes at the corners. Can't do that at the top because of the cut outs; that lack of symmetry you'd normally notice at the look over stage of admiring the vise's strength, design and features.
@REAPER85151
@REAPER85151 9 месяцев назад
u could try to blend that with an angle grinder
@richard-jz1qd
@richard-jz1qd 9 месяцев назад
Machinists aren't keen on angle grinders, a bit like the antichrist, lol.
@slypig24
@slypig24 9 месяцев назад
When we made our vice in trade school, we used a shaper to machine the internal surfaces of the fixed Jaw. I still have my vices. Will you use your shaper too?
@lukeb3930
@lukeb3930 9 месяцев назад
In the last video he did say he will probably use his shaper at his home shop for the internal work
@67fishbig
@67fishbig 9 месяцев назад
should the height of the vise be centered for the bolt on casting? guess i will just watch the complete video..
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