Tsoding writes in C, but doesn't regard performance highly. Tsoding is an immensely experienced Haskell programmer, but doesn't like complicated abstractions) This person is enigma
IDK how to gauge this guy on what he actually thinks about modern programming languages. Like, for example, he's okay with Rust, but not Cargo and the Rust ecosystem at large, and would rather use rustc and Makefiles to build Rust. Maybe he's not heard of Go, but I'd imagine he probably dislikes the abstractions the language has, maybe even more so than in Rust or Haskell, or maybe programming in Go is just not as fun compared to C.
Finding this channel has made programming fun for me again. The bit at ~56:00 is such a good example of persistence and learned intuition paying off. I spent all of my uni days and and early career believing that the source code of languages and production grade tools were the domain of strange people with beards and tall pointy hats who lived in the basements of places like MIT. My early instructors and mentors simply failed to indicate to me that if I wanted to know more about a thing I could read its source and even build one. Its very motivational and just a lot of fun to watch this person dive in to all these different things, learning a lot, pushing through frustration, and most importantly, have a great time. I am grateful that he chooses to share it with all of us.
I totally sympathise. Work sucks. I can only tolerate it if it is a programming project that fascinates me and actually has some useful purpose in the world. My current solution to this problem is to work with a few friends on a start up company doing things we have a passion for. The money sucks but at least we are not shackled to drudgery. Life is short, the is no time to waste working on meaningless tasks to make money for someone else
Agree, i was fascinated with electronics my whole life and I always worked unrelated jobs, I always hated it. Having Aspergers makes it even harder to work jobs with no passion around people who dont hide the fact that they dont like me because im an exentric nerd
@@spacewad8745 No, no, more power to you. I know what is to be in that kind of situation. Wishing you manage to find work that is satisfying and fulfilling as well as essential for you.
@@OneMilian That is a shame. So many places I have worked where people had passion for what they were doing and eccentric nerds were almost a majority. A lot of fun. It does so depress me though to work with people who have no passion for what they are doing, don't care what it does or what it is for. Just doing the hours and taking the salary with no pride or joy.
"make money for someone else" implies being a business owner is easy (after all, other people make money for you), but before that phrase you said money sucks when working in your own company, How so?
Learning how a library works by grepping around and reading the source code is a really useful skill -- I started a new job about a month ago and I've been basically learning how to use their primary library through a combination of grepping around, using breakpoints to see whats happening, and reading docstrings, and primarily the former. It's so good!
Not really, that would mean it would never become mainstream and gain attraction. Windows used by a lot of people and corporations, supporting it would put this language ahead of tons other new programming languages.
19:30 I would absolutely watch that! That's along the lines of how I am trying to approach learning programming and it has been helpful. I have at least hit a point now where I can write relatively competently in multiple languages and can understand what's going on in many others. You're definitely right; once you begin to understand programming, you can learn any language. It's all just syntax and built-in features.
I thoroughly enjoyed messing with hare, it's a shame that I can't use it for anything serious. It's such a fun little language! I wrote a small text editor using it.
i think the reason why many people care about the language is because the abstractions made in languages. for example the abstractions made in the java ee environment are quite different from the abstractions made in c++. So if you litterally want to make money with programming you have to know the abstractions of an "trend" language and not just the idea behind programming. people need to eat, so they need to make money, they apply to a company, the company uses a specific language, the people need to learn the abstractions, the people learned a language.
I would 100% watch that course. I might even pay something reasonable, but I'm not rly one to pay unless it provides something better than reading docs, youtube, and creating problem/solution projects from scratch. Your content is already extremely helpful for the overall programming mindset. I'm finally able to see a language for the first time and understand what's going on, and your thought patterns over multiple languages/projects has been essential. Thank you!
Interesting take on abstractions. My dad has been a dev/architect for 30 years, and as I'm learning he has explained the importance of understanding first principles. Even though he's never written a word of Python, I explained how I was going to use a threading abstraction in my app and simply based on how he understands threading he explained how it wouldn't work and ended up being right! So the prediction of those that can do this being more important in the future is very interesting.
It's pleasure to watch another interesting topic and get motivated for doing something cool just for fun. While people like you exists in this world i have a hope that all is not lost for us. I wish one day i will be free from this big companies bullshit and would enjoy my portion of the recreational programming. Thank you, mista Zozin, as always ❤️
I coudn't find any info about the general programming language. It would be awesome if you could make a course about programming in the general programming language
You "financial management" is exactly my thinking. I feel like an alien in my country. That is how someone lives who authentically works to live and not live to work. Thx for making me feel a little bit less like an alien.
Thank you very much for this video. I tried it just to know. The installation was flawless and as easy as I like it. It was blazingly fast and I like that very much.
If you enjoy trying out new programming languages, I would like to suggest checking out the Sidef programming language. :) Disclaimer: I'm the author of the language.
I would pay for a 'General Programming' course from you. I'm not a noob but, I suck at picking where to draw abstraction boundaries. I guess you'd call it architecture. I'm always amazed at how you take an idea, and get a prototype working so quickly.
18:00 yes! I always wondered about this. Started learning whatever programming languages I found interesting when I was a kid with a C64 and Atari ST, not thinking it was any kind of "career investment". The questions and tier lists of "what language to learn / ignore in 20XX" are really weird, like if musicians were posting videos like "DON'T learn piano in 2024... learn THIS instrument to stay relevant"
I will totally watch the course on programming in general. I assume you will talk more about memory, process, constructs rather than features of programming language. But I do understand, spending months on a course and then getting 500 people like me buy it is not a great roi.
hello Tsoding , (@40:35) you have also the language Odin ( C like ) that come out of the box with binding for popular lib like raylib. Wich is perfect for rapid prototyping and to rapidly setup on any computer (linux,windows , mac )
wait, but right a the end you rated the language with 8/10 👀 please prediction model-san 🙏 give a rate to more languages that can run raylib so that we can finally have a proper programming language tier list
You really think people are not going to be interested in your "general programing" courses? Well i can speak for myself, that i would CONSUME that stuff, especially knowing that course is from zozin. Call me stupid, I'd pay for that, even if it would be mostly stuff i know If you're going to do it, do it for minority.
as a xoogler i'm delighted to here that they are investing in simpler systems. also they just fired over half their workforce, you dont want to work there.
hey tsoding, out of the modern c like languages (zig, odin, nim, etc...) which one has been the best for you? you've coded a lot, but what has felt a lot more intuitive for you in sense of applying core programming concepts rather than syntax memorization?
@@varshneydevansh except that knuth books are dry and hard to approach and would better used as references instead of reading them cover to cover, unlike tsoding streams which is fun to watch, informative and has engaging style.
So the issue you had at around 35:00 with the hare folder was that the executable is named after the parent folder, so creating a `hello` folder would have triggered the error.
Tsoding, Please would you mind doing a video on your desktop/window manager setup? I really love your low profile and "all from emacs" text only workflow. Very impressive, it helps people like me who needs to constantly fight against the distributions endless irritating UI innovations.
Today I leared that siemens is looking for A windows 3.1 programmer because of the debugger for german ICE 1 and 2 trains. So its not really the languages but you can really lock people/ companies in with tooling IDE's and development environments. And than you make ze moniez
TFW DeVault asks for an annotation tool with a WYSIWYG PDF editor and is willing to pay $1000 (only if real time collab/cloud sync is included) for something covered in "How I draw figures for my mathematical lecture notes using Inkscape"
It's difficult to think about programming without binding to a programming language, but maybe it's because I only knew C well and never got deep into other languages. Would thinking about data and operation on such data a good starting point?
