@@cameronmcewen9666 shit dude it's almost like you're viewing the character from the POV of his ex and not from the regular POV his enemies that mythologize him. Not like he fucking melted a major character for funsies at one point.
I could honestly watch Joker push Harley's buttons for hours. As much as I don't like this show, I can at least say they're doing a good job with the Clown Prince of Crime.
I hope in the first episode of Season 5. we will get a Pulp Fiction-refference from Gordon torturing Joker: "(...) with a pair of pliers and a blow torch. You hear me talkin', hillbilly boy? I ain't through with you by a damn sight. I'ma get medieval on your ass!"