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Fudge is just as worse as Umbridge because if he actually acknowledged Voldemort’s return, he would have been respected.

Frrrrr🤬

Sonic Screwdriver what about Rita skitter tho O.o

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Yes, I admit it!

Until you are not.

@@godzillavkk lol

for the most part

Hermione even said in one of the films "As long as Dumbledores there, nobody can touch you"

And dumbledore regrets he is ignoring harry

Yup

I need to agree, he is my Thomas J. Henry for magic.

Saved harry nicely

@@mochiminds2674 yessir

Absolutely!!!

Ha ha!!

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@Peaceofchickenyouneverate tf

@Peaceofchickenyouneverate his name is Cornelius Fudge

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Wasn't he 17 at that point?

@@markozvekic2448 no

@@dakshitasaxena9331 ok

But he didn't explicitly use his magic with a wand, did he. It just happened

Harry blowing up his aunt is an example of magic performed accidentally by young witches and wizards. Harry did the same thing at the zoo. This one was done deliberately.

I am afraid each ministry has such members or members that are useless or inexperienced.

@@FannnTommm or just evil

Only those of the ministry who voted in favor of conviction: Fudge, Umbridge, etc.

Not fudge actually

Exactly. And even if Voldemort is technically the main antagonist, he just never gets under our skin the way Umbridge does.

That “muggle” was who’s life Harry saved.

Harry’s actions that day changed Dudley for the better《 Brøwneemïst Gacha 》

They're overseeing your statement but they're still correct. I thought of that also, but he is still a muggle. A Dementor attack is brutal, even to wizards.

It didn't matter. One was not supposed to perform magic in the view of ANY Muggle. That wasn't the point. The real thing is, Harry was acting under self-defence and that was a legitimate justification, not that Fudge and Umbridge were willing to hear.

@@yuichitwong9629 So Hermione would never be able to do magic in front of her parents? What if a witch or wizard marries a muggle>?

XDDDD

They probably all thought about themselves or their children having done so as well.

@@Blubableful No, they probably thought that literally everything at that moment would be more useful for them to do, including staring at a wall silently, than abusing Harry or any other student for such a stupid thing

3:51 how that lady opens her mouth, like: I - ... Yeah, he is right.

+Mystic Fire Especially considering the very SAME minister gladly pardoned Harry for *blowing up his Aunt* in front of stern Muggles 2 years prior :D Fudge is driven by fear and keeping up appearances.

Deadpool: what the shlt?!! That's the coolest name ever!

ALBUS. PERCIVAL. WULFRIC. *b r i a n* Dumbledore.

ALBUS PERCIVAL WULFRIC 𝓑𝓻𝓲𝓪𝓷 Dumbledore

"ALBUS PERCIVAL WULFRIC ƁŔÌÀÑ dumbledore"

That was after this scene

Me: No Shit.

kapitan that’s why I really hate The minister in this movie

ME: HOLY SH*T TRUST DUMEBDORR FOR ONCE CONERLIUS

He's a bloody coward

@BamaBroTTV That is only under the principle of Lex retro non agit, if the ministry doesn't follow said principle or has determined that there are circumstances that allow for the principle not to work, then the ministry from the perspective of its legal system can and if willing will do that. The question whether its moral, how law should look like, when can law be changed etc. can be asked and depending on the answer we can judge the wizard legal system and say its bad or not.

@MythMakesTV I do believe they ARE able to do whatever they want. The Wizengamot is both the legislature and the highest court, are they not? Seperation of power and the right to a fair trial do not seem to be popular concepts in the 'Wizarding World'.

The representation of a corrupt government that will pull any strings necessary to ensure their position in power is safe and unthreatened. Voldemort's return was both a threat to Cornelius' position, and a very scary thought for Cornelius in and of itself, because he truly feared him. And Harry was the one insisting he returned. Obviously given Harry's backstory that the whole world knows about, then if Harry shows up (with the dead body of his friend no less) and cries out that Voldie's back, obviously at the very least some eyebrows will rise and questions will be asked. Cornelius felt threatened by this, I mean shit look at his reaction when Dumbledore tries to reason with him, the man's literally shaking and looks like he's ready to fucking cry, and so he needed Harry silenced, so he staged the whole Dementor attack to force Harry to break the law by using Magic and then have him arrested and out of the way, cause funny how Harry has used magic outside of Hogwarts while underage before, he inflated his uncle's sister and had her flying around the sky like a balloon and nobody cared, the matter was just swept under the rug, but now after Harry tried to warn everyone of Voldemort's return, Cornelius needs him silenced, and if the opportunity to arrest him doesn't arise on its own, he'll create the opportunity himself. That was also the whole point of sending Umbridge to Hogwarts and getting Dumbledore out of the picture. He needed everyone silenced and docile, and he just needed to ignore the problem and hopefully it will go away (well that and he was convinced that Dumbledore is after his position, so he felt threatened from every angle basically, he was a cornered cowardly animal in this whole scenario) It's very telling of how people in power abuse their power and will pull any strings necessary, silence whomever needs silencing, and manipulate any situation that needs manipulating, in order to maintain their power.

I'm about to change the laws of the entire British wizarding world to arrest this underage kid.

Fudge should have immediately accused Harry as a murderer in Cedric case with jealousy and wanting to win at that point

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They knew he would be there to defend, and tried to ensure he missed it.

@@pob_42 guess they forget that nobody can stop Dumbledore

But in the case of Cornelius fudge I bet he had modified some laws to his own selfish interests.

Also describes America's political atmosphere in this era

pretty much how the MeToo movement operates

@@igotvaccinated2816 Pretty much how all corruption works in the world

No separation of powers, either...

She's worse than voldemort in my book.

​@@lauradonofrioart Voldemort is evil but doesn't care about hiding it. (He makes his intentions very clear.) Umbridge feels more insidious because she puts on a mask. They are both ruthless, but Umbridge hides behind a veneer of respectability and people like her are quite common in the real world. If given the chance, realistically characters like Umbridge could do more harm than Voldemort even could.

If a character has dialogues and is named, you know they are going to be an important part

And very precise acting too.. she really brought out the hatred in us viewers/readers.

@@Not_A_CIA_Agent kinda like Chi Fu from Mulan.

If you watch secrets of dumbledore, you will know why, He was supposed to be a next minister of magic.

@@m1nor1ty30 Not to mention his ownership of the Elder Wand basically commands respect.

​@hardstyle905true, and even among those who know what it is, even fewer believe it actually exists.

@@m1nor1ty30that was in the books as well. Dumbledore was the most popular pick for Minister, then Crouch Sr. Fudge only got the job because Dumbledore didn’t want it and Crouch Sr was disgraced.

Plus he's prolly got a couple magic war crimes to his name so they know what he's capable of

Mrs. Figg right..? The Squib... The cat-obsessed neighbor... lol

Yep

@@drunkydrunk2351 before the events of the philosophers stone they would take him to her house during family events

@@drunkydrunk2351 I feel like all her Cats were Kneazles like Crookshanks . I remember reading that Harry thought they were smart and were watching him lol

Mr paws owner broke her leg in philosopher stone by her cat by that sent a boa constrictor on dudely by harry born bred in Brazil spoke parseltongue with zoo director saying sorry to aunt petunia ..

I think so too. It's too much shit for a teenager to deal with (but unfortunately this happens on a daily basis with millions around the world).

Add onto the fact that he has to deal with Malfoy every year and his godfather died in front of him the only family member who treated him as family. I'm amazed he didn't avada kadavra everyone he didn't trust. (I just finished half blood prince so no spoilers please and thank you)

They should have accused Harry as a murderer too for Cedric case. No witness and good for them to say Harry is lying about voldemort to cover up a murder

I hope somewhere down the line all corrupt ministry members were executed for their treasonous role in maintaining the lie that voldemort wasn't back.

The responsibilities harry has had to uphold, for example saving Ginny from the basilisk, has matured him. He was only 15 but I'd definitely consider him a man at that point in his life.

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A wizard does not arrive late, or early. He arrives precisely when he means to.

@G E T R E K T 905 And “There are no accidents” -Oogway

What's the deal with traveling anyway, can't these wizards teleport wherever and whenever they want? In the Fantastic Beast movie, wizards are literally teleporting away.

@@invictuz4803 yes ofc. It's called apparition. However, some places are apparition blocked for example inside the ministry.

Sad... :(

It's because he was concerned about Voldemort was taking control through Harry's mind and could see through Harry's eyes and possibly attack Dumbledore if he looked Harry in the eye.

@@mattgerrish908 wait really? he was afraid of voldemort peforming legilimency on him? where was this stated

@@olivialycanthrope2234 in the chapter The Lost Prophecy after everyone gets back from the Ministry and Harry demolishes Dumbledore's office in a fit of rage while Dumbledore just calmly looks on and lets it happen. He said he felt Harry was not angry _ENOUGH_ at him. He also explains everything to Harry about the contents of the prophecy.

Calmly

Correction: They are all nothing compared to dumbledore.

Fudge knew once Dumbledore arrived, he was screwed

*awkward silence*

That is a fancy way of saying "I knew you would pull some b.s. like this so I showed up early just incase.

Knowing Fudge's bullshit, he ensured he was there earlier. Fudge knew he was caught the moment Dumbeldore said that because he tried to do it with both him and Harry.

Gandalf: Hey, that’s my line.

I can't believe they cut the entire scene where she helped Harry. I died of laughter in the book when she smacked Mundungus.

Yeah... and she was mean at 'Arry for a reason... and she SquiB...

Dumbledore did take power, in the form of becoming headmaster of Hogwarts. The key difference between becoming headmaster and Minister of Magic is that the Minister was largely a political position, while being headmaster allowed Dumbledore to make positive changes in the lives of many magical students. Serving oneself versus serving others, basically.

@@spencercarruth9706 and did not took it by force,he was a teacher first then became headmaster

Dumbledore was not Ministry of Magic but he become leader of the Wizarding World by being elected at the ICW .

Just reading this comment and thinking it over. If I were a wizard in the wizarding world of Harry Potter I think there are still things I would use in the Muggle world that are just simply not available in the wizarding world. Like for example I would probably I were. Dumbledore would’ve gone or searched out for a Muggle therapist who was not discriminatory towards wizards and witches and who I could talk to and talk about my problems. It’s things like counseling that’s just not available in the world of magic in Harry Potter‘s world anyway, that should be available that’s available in the Muggle world. I feel bad for Dumbledore because him having to live with the fact that he felt guilty about his sister‘s death and felt like it was his fault is really sad and it really makes me think why in the world are there no counseling services for wizards and witches in the wizarding world? so if I were a Witcher or wizard or Dumbledore in this case or either or I would probably try and find a mug therapist, I could talk to who knows about the magical world and gets some help.

He still had more common sense than the real minister did If I knew Voldemort was back I'd have done everything Dumbledore suggested

“My name is ALBUS PERCIVAL WULFRIC [rolls eyes] Brian DUMBLEDORE.” Like his name sounded so badass until Brian came up.

It’s because she knew Potter wouldn’t lie

She was also impressed that Harry could conjure a full potronus in the first place, let alone at such a young age. Lupen wasn’t exaggerating when he said that’s it’s highly advanced magic. If anything, he undersold it

Killed by Voldemort himself 👀🥺

@@bronzin1445 maybe lupin performed it so much, its become a monday to him

"She wasn't even remotely an important character in the book" She wasn't from Harry's perspective. It say something that Voldy killed her personally and didn't give the job to any of his useless mooks.

She voted in Harry's favor too

fam thats just hilarious😂😂😂

The first time I read the book I thought it was like a throat-clearing sound.

She always does that! So annoying!

She may be hem heming by this day enjoying the solitude at Azkaban

As I always live by: hate the character, respect the actor. I can tell that Imelda Staunton (Umbridge) did a damn good job of playing the character.

I do too. But I were to be isolated from everyone for God-Knows-How-Long because Dumbledore says so, I'd be mad at him too.

I love Dumbledore too. It comes down to the two actors that played him the late Richard Harris and of course, the late Michael Gambon. I thought Richard Harris did a really good job as Dumbledore and I really liked the way he portrayed him as being soft-spoken. I do like Micheal Gambon’s portrayal of Dumbledore as well I’m he keeps it pretty authentic and he makes it his own. But if Richard Harris had lived, it does make me wonder how different these scenes would all be but RIP Richard Harrison and RIP Michael Gambon.

She nearly got Harry expelled! >:( This is all her fault!

…It wasn’t illegal, they were being attacked by Dementors. The ministry has a self defense clause for underage wizards. This is more than most American public schools.

😂

I died

Oh, right, sorry. Big. Cloaked. Dark. And suddenly everything went cold, as if all the happiness had gone away from the world.

Well she didn't exactly specify did she?

​​@@jaredruff9823Now Now. Dementors don't just walk into a muggle suburb and happen across a wizard. The odds are astronomical.

Dumbledore said calmly

The volume change really helped with that line

Nightstrike90 Not necessarily. That WOULD be the most logical reason for a wizard to cast the Patronus Charm (especially in front of a muggle as previously noted), but one could also theoretically speculate that Harry was showing off his Patronus to the muggle(s) in question. Not only is this counter-story not implausible considering how reckless teenage boys are known to be sometimes, but it looks like that may have been precisely what Fudge was trying to imply by calling Harry’s defense a “well-rehearsed story” and pointing out how unlikely it would normally be to find a Dementor in a muggle suburb.

@@LittleMissRequiem If Fudge is winging this accusation based on assumptions of underage wizarding mischief, then it's still very implausible, most cases that warrant a breach in the statute of secrecy involve wizard kids casting cantrips, jinxes or hexes to bedazzle or play a prank on muggles or each other. The Patronus Charm isn't an underage category or minor spell you can just cast willy nilly or for fun, it's a last and probably the only line of defense against a dark and deadly creature. There are much more easier spells that produces grander and entertaining effects. It's not cast in an act of mischief, it's cast when you're desperate to create something that will stave off whatever horror is trying to kill you like Dementors or Lethifolds. That's why Amelia Bones, one of the ministry wizards attending the hearing, was amazed that Harry was able to do such a thing. If wizards, even the underage ones, who are in terrible danger can accomplish feats of magic that were initially thought impossible for their abilities. Then it gives more credence to the possibility that Harry was indeed trying to fend off dementors instead of trying to impress Dudley. But again, Fudge is biased.

Yeah, but he probably thinks that 'Arry and Dumby is suggesting that the ministry did order the attack, and he never believed that the Darklord is back, even tho there's alot of things going on at hogwarts... da Golden Trio, Dumbly, Snape, and McGonagall, the Weasleys(except Percy) are aware and knows whats happening... Umbridge however is a b***h and (siriusly) she could be one of Voldy's followers... lol

Not necessarily Unlike other magic, Patronus charms are personal to the user, which makes you liable to show them off. There's a scene with Snape using his Patronus to show he still loves Lily, for example.

Voldemort and dumbledore were the only people capable of putting her down. Imagine if the order of the phoenix managed to get her under their wings. The battle at hogwarts would’ve been drastically different

And sometimes in Fanfiction Sirius’s girlfriend and Lily’s best friend

But in the order of the Phionex... They even try to arrest Dumbledore too

For real. That shit was corrupt as fuck.

@@LegionIvory but no one was more corrupted then the worst Minister Of Magic himself : Cornelius Fudge.

@@vincentfichtler7758 That's precisely my point.

Which was more corrupt, the Ministry of Magic or the Galactic Republic?

@@realjoemavro I think it's kind of hard to say which one is more corrupted than the other I say they're both equally corrupted.

@MALCOLM MALCOLM Why the concern?

Yep, I do raise my hand when she says that these days.

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Yes

He has a phoenix, he's immune to being roasted... in fact any attempts to roast to make him more powerful

Its times like this being an adult has its advantages

WITNESS FOR THE DEFENCE! ALBUS PERCIVAL WULFRIC... ✨brian ✨ dumbledore.

@@Mortumo lmao he garnished it with that sass at the end didn’t he

@@LifeOfRy ofc he did

That B is worse than Voldemort and there are bunches of people like her all over the real world, in offices and schools. She's the real Voldemort lol

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Except when he wants to use you as a pig for slaughter...

She died???? Well fuck xP

@@hidan407 yeah Voldemort killed her himself personally

@@nicktroisi6347 Damn, she must have been powerful if Voldemort had to personally fight her. I hope she gave him one hell of a fight at least

@@hidan407the sixth book says that it was believed Voldemort killed her personally because she was so powerful and “the evidence suggests she gave a good fight”. Keep in mind McGonagall, Kingsley and Slughorn together were defeated by a weakened Voldemort, but Bones alone gave her a good fight.

Madam Bones IS the Head of Magical Law Enforcement (1:29 she's like b wtf 😂 cause she know Fudge be talking bullshite 😂) (Like Harry in the future, and Percival Graves in Fantastic Beasts, and we all know how powerful these characters are)

RIGHT?!

@@jaredruff9823 Exactly.

Fudge had multiple chances to see that Potter was telling the truth. But no, he decided to act like an ostrich and believe two corrupted scumbags like Malfoy and Umbridge that wanted nothing more than Potter’s destruction. Worse, he allowed the press to vilify Harry for ONE FUCKING YEAR! Before Voldemort’s appearance. It was very satisfying to see him at the end of the people’s wrath after he was forced to acknowledge the truth and to be kicked out of office. Pity Scrimgeour allowed Umbridge to stay as his secretary.

Lol, Ikr... Serves right...

@@thomazneuber2008 we don't know that. We only know that she was there when the Ministry was taken over. Unless it was stated in the book...

Exactly lmfao 😭😂

Imagine how dull he would be if he went as Brian Dumbledore

WITNESS FOR THE DEFENCE! ALBUS PERCIVAL WULFRIC... ✨brian ✨ dumbledore.

I don't think it's that simple

Or use veritaserum

I agree Luis Perez

They outright knew Voldermort is back. But they refused to admit it, despite the amount of evidence. They weren't even prepared to let Harry give his side of the story over unauthorised use of magic, let alone allow him the chance to prove them as liars. This whole trial was a stitch up from the start, until Dumbledor came in. Good idea tho :)

@@hardstuckbronze5880 but then the truth about sirius and persnol things will also be revealed to the whole world like his feelings about cho

Because she's pompous and full of herself

Honestly, I ship Umbridge and Fudge. Those two filthy slime-bags deserve each other

@@catguy4996 Fudge was just afraid of Voldemort

Wait why did Umbridge order the attack.

Also, why else would Harry do a Patronus charm? Those are only good for protection against Dementors and sending messages (and Harry doesn't even know about this use of them). If he did underage magic for any other reason, it would most likely not have been the Patronus charm. Unless they think he was trying to impress Dudley or something. There's no reason for someone to cast a Patronus willy-nilly.

Difficult, very difficult.. Well if ur sure u dont wanna be slytherin... SLYTHERIN! U DONT DESERVE TO PICK

Which is true.

Lol

Lmfao boy would have done mad time in Azkaban

Nah he would bullshit his way through the trial Al then Probably made a case that the ministry is not in control of the demantors.

Squibs are of magical descendant. They are not like Muggles, who have no ounce of magic in their veins. It's just that a Squib's ability to conjure magic is stunted to where it's difficult, often impossible for them to perform it. But the magic is still there, and they can see things that have been hidden from the view of the Muggle world.

Unless it needed to be defend themselves and other from death.- Dumbledore said that. Fudge really want Potter to be expelled

That's really unfair to Chamberlain as any modern historian will tell you, he wasn't an idiot and while he certainly wanted to give peace a chance he held little delusions that Hitler would and he tried buying time for the UK and France to rearm. Also, going to war with Germany over the Sudetenland and Poland without at least attempting diplomacy would have been deeply unpopular with the British public, if not unthinkable, and would most certainly have alienated France, which really, really didn't want another war with Germany after the horrors of WW1 (Great Britain felt similar to a lesser degree).

"DID YOU PUT YOUR NAME IN THE GOBLET OF FIRE!" Dumbledore said calmly

Apart from the moment in Hogwarts when Dumbledore randomly shouts at the students "Well? Don't you have studying to do?!" That was out of character for Dumbledore

@@catguy4996 Eeyeah... 😅

Book: "Did you put your name in the Goblet of Fire, Harry?" Dumbledore said calmly. Movie: Dumbledore- hARRy dID yA PuT YUr nAMe iN Da gOBlEt oF Fiya!!!!!!!! ?

@@Gur7910 _"Ahhh!!! ABUSE!"_ 😂

I wouldn't be surprised if he actually knew the hearing was changed

Fuckin' A!

@G E T R E K T 905 What are you talking about?

+Jean Grandas - I couldn't. That doesn't excuse the terrible ignorance he had. And all the bad things he did because of it. Even after it was proven that Voldemort was back, he still tried to do things for his own benefit. But that failed and he got sacked.

@@jaredruff9823 It's a reference to the film Aliens. Why he said it, I have no idea.

And she's the aunt of one of Harry's fellow first years during his first year at Hogwarts Susan Bones

She’s my fave character from the books👌🏻, and she realised that the minister was trying to railroad him into confessing

Actually this is the way to keep the series interesting.you are right,but I think other series' do this too

1. They didn't want the truth, just condemn Harry and make it as an example. 2. Magical means cannot be used as proof in wizard trials because they have ways to be countered

Nice name

yep. In the books she reveals that she was the one who sent the Dementors after Harry

They actually don't reveal who sent the dementors in the movie

@@shahbazshaikh2884 I wonder what fudge would have thought of this

It would have been funny, but I doubt the Wizengamot would have fallen for such a flimsy excuse.

Then he should've died! Died rather than inconvenience the Ministry! Wait, I don't get it either

Even as a Slytherin why wouldn't you?

@@epicfan1598 even death eaters could have used him since some had to lie to get out of being imprisoned when Voldemort fell the first time

only on the brian