Harry's songs are not all about Louis | Three songs about gender | Analysis 

So harry isn’t cis?

@@vampirate2347 I don't know how he identifies. I think femininity is an important part of him whether or not he identifies as something other than a man. I don't know how much of these lyrics is autobiographical.

I love the time you put into this, their lives/loves are their own to contemplate and cherish however they want to I love and support the talent and artistry of all sides of the stories. They truly are genius song writers, it’s as if you know what they are saying on a deeper level 💕

@@ariadnaestrauss3895 I appreciate your comments and I’m glad you like my videos. I wouldn’t want to sound harsh, but I’m not sure how to express this more nicely. I think that our biggest disagreement is that you think that the details of people’s private lives are a puzzle that needs to be solved, and I don’t. In fact, to me that way of thinking kind of feels like stalking, and it’s actually quite invasive. I think Louis & Harry certainly do want to communicate their love for each other through their songs, and I think they want to communicate to us in many ways that they are queer, in love and closeted. They put in Easter eggs, wear coded clothing and so on, to reassure us that they are still together, and that the love we have witnessed is real. However, I don’t think that they try to tell us every single private detail of their relationship, and I don’t really see the point in trying to guess those, and I definitely don’t think it’s ok to present those interpretations as facts. I think there is a line between supporting them as a closeted queer couple (and as closeted queer individuals, and as artists and so on) and digging into every detail of their private life. Also, I think it’s important to keep facts and interpretations separate. Just because you think you solved what something means doesn’t mean that your answer is correct. We need to acknowledge that. In this fandom, misinformation spreads very quickly and guesses and interpretations become “facts”. Spreading misinformation isn’t helping anyone, the least Louis & Harry, and we really should try to avoid that. We can make our own interpretations, we can compare their lyrics to other things we know about them and all that, but we still don’t know any of the details for certain, unless there are some reliable proofs. So, let’s not try to make our interpretation into facts. For example, I don’t think that they ever broke up. Based on the timelines of factual events, them being in a relationship the whole time seems to be the most likely scenario. I think that they have gone through many struggles in their relationship - considering their situation, it’s quite obvious - and they have expressed feelings of abandonment, separation, loneliness, longing and reconnection in their lyrics, but I wouldn’t use those as evidence of actual real-life events. I'm sure those feelings have been real, anyway. I just don’t want to use songs as “proof” of real-life events because they are not. Their songs are also in some parts written to fit the public narrative - that Louis has a long-term girlfriend with a two-year break and Harry has had multiple short relationships, so some lines in the songs are there just to fit that narrative. But obviously I don’t know whether they ever broke up, and I’m fine with that. After all, it’s their life. I don’t need to know. All I need to know is that they are queer, closeted and, as it seems, still together. Even if they weren’t together anymore, them being queer and closeted (and amazing artists, of course) is enough for me to continue supporting them. I think you missed quite a lot of my points. I don’t know why you explained that “around 1:32” thing, even though I referred to it both in the video and in this pinned comment. I thought I made it clear that I know it. I have listened to the reversed track and I don’t deny its existence. I said it’s a Larry Easter egg. I think that reversed line is a hidden message and a love declaration to Louis. However, I stand behind what I said in the video: “I don’t think it’s relevant to the GENERAL THEME of this song.” I don’t think the song is for or about Louis, although I think that that one reversed line is. And in the pinned comment you replied to, I said: “I think Larry can be there in the background even in the songs that are not about Larry”. So, I’m not really sure what you are trying to say. Also, I don’t know why you are explaining things like coded clothing. You commented on my recent post about Harry’s coded clothing, so I assume you know that I am aware of the things you mentioned. If the interview you are referring to is the one with Zach Sang, you misquoted Harry. He didn’t say “the same listener” but he said the other things you quoted (well, he said "most songs", not "all songs"). So, he said that individual songs are usually written for one listener, not that all songs are written for the same listener. If you meant some other interview, please tell me which one. But if you meant that one, then please, please, please stop misquoting him, because that kind of takes away all the credibility. (The same with taking things out of context, like I said in another comment earlier.) Also, that interview was made right before HS1 was released. All the songs that I talked about in this video are from Fine Line. I think Harry has evolved quite a lot as a songwriter between the albums, so what he said then might not apply to the newer songs. I think Fine Line has more introspective songs than the first album does. I do think Harry “writes too many songs about” Louis. I never denied that. But that’s not all he writes about. And I think your way of drawing conclusions about some private details of their relationship based on their lyrics or some cryptic coding is kind of creepy. You are probably justifying it by saying that they are giving hints, but what if you read the hints incorrectly? You seem to take some of those hints as a free pass to invade their privacy, and that’s where we disagree. I might be wrong, but based on my observations, especially straight cisgender fans tend to 1) misinterpret certain things, and 2) think that they are entitled to information that really isn’t any of their business. There’s a fine line between seeing and acknowledging their signalling and reading too much into things. I welcome cishet fans into this fandom with open arms, and I have no problem with them expressing their views (as long as they are sensitive to the LGBTQ+ fans), but when it comes to issues that many LGBTQ+ fans have personal experience on, please listen to us and acknowledge that we have a deeper understanding on certain issues. These include queer culture, things that are specific to queer relationships, homophobia and transphobia and the complexity of those issues that goes way beyond dealing with homo-/transphobic individuals, and heteronormativity and how it affects our everyday life in ways that are difficult for many cishet people to even comprehend. Any kind of song interpretations are ok as long as you acknowledge that your interpretation may not be correct, and it may not reflect the writer’s personal life, at least in the way you think it does. You think that you know how they think and feel, but you don’t. You can make observations and interpretations, just like any of us, but you can’t get inside of their heads. We need to understand the limits of our knowledge. I understand that I don’t know how they think or feel. I can make observations, interpretations and educated guesses, but that’s it. I have some insight and knowledge on certain things, which is why I think I can understand the meaning of certain things quite well. When it comes to the bigger picture, their love, their closeting, and the more universal questions of homophobia, transphobia, problems within the entertainment industry, and so on, I’m pretty confident I get it right. But when it comes to details about their relationship, I’m well aware that my interpretations and perceptions might be wrong. And I’m ok with it. Larry is fascinating and so is this fandom. Many aspects of this whole phenomenon are fascinating. But do you really need to know details of their relationship in order to support them? If you are here to support queer artists in a tricky situation and to appreciate their art, it should be enough to know that they are queer, closeted and together, and write beautiful, meaningful songs about love and the queer experience. But if you are here to play some kind of deduction game, I don’t know if anything I say really matters. I don’t quite understand what kind of needs some of you are trying to satisfy through these two people. After all, they are not a puzzle, they are actual human beings.

yYAAAAAAAAAYYYYY💚💙

I mean, it pretty clearly is, isn't it? I would expect everyone to understand it like that, but apparently they don't...

Omg I thought the same thing

@@FearlessCreature You have done a great job with this video and you have given me a lot to think about in terms of my perspective, especially with "She" Thank you!

Yes ❤

Sorry 😆 I chose the title because I've been a bit annoyed recently with some people not being able to see anything else than Larry in anything Harry or Louis does. I love Larry, but I also love the self-reflection that I think both of them have in their songs.

@@FearlessCreature totally agreed

Did you watch the video before commenting? I think the song is about Harry. Only Harry. I think the video parallels are intentional and refer to Larry, of course. Those are two separate things. I've used those video parallels in a previous video. That is not at all the point of this video, though. I'm not talking about the Lights Up video, I'm talking about the song lyrics and Harry's self-reflection on gender identity. Edit. I just realised you didn't even say what it has a strong tie with, but I assume you meant Walls music video and We Made It (director's cut). And yes, there is. But it's not related to the point of my video.

Like I said in the video and in the pinned comment, there is a Larry "Easter egg" in She, but it isn't, in my opinion, relevant to the thematic concept of the song.

Lots of people come up with the same interpretations. I didn't copy this anywhere. I said in the beginning that people have discussed it in tumblr and probably elsewhere, too. All the text is my own. I don't know who I should give credit to, because I don't even remember who has written about this, and I haven't read them recently. I don't think I need to credit people for having the same thoughts than I do. Otherwise I should probably give credit to somebody for every single thought I write about Larry/Harry/Louis, because this fandom is huge and nothing is original.

Also, these are really the most obvious interpretations of these songs to anyone who has struggled with these things themselves. Just saying. It's astonishing how some people are not able to see the obvious, but I guess if they have never thought about these things, they just can't see it. So, because of reading some interpretations these songs by other people, in which they clearly missed the whole point, I just wanted to put my thoughts out. Yes, this is personal.

I am not really trying to offend u if i came across as such, sorry. I was just saying if you referred form some where then let it know. And yes most people who have dealt with such things can relate to it, myself included have interperted this songs in such way. Again sorry if this offended you.

@@ektamohite1987 Thanks. If I reference somebody else's work, I will give credit. I wanted to say that I'm not the only one that has come up with these interpretations, because I don't want to sound like this is something original only I have thought of, because I guess all the song interpretations are something multiple people have probably thought of and discussed. Other people's posts about these have given reinforcement or validation to the thoughts that I've already had, instead of me making these interpretations because of reading somebody else's posts.