Has the BBC had its day?! | licence fee increases to £172 a YEAR 

I agree. This discussion raised a couple of questions for me. Does Mr. Bolton have anything other than mistruths and spurious statistics to contribute to any debate and why are a couple of highly paid MPs moonlighting on GB News at a time that most MPs reserve for meeting their constituents? Re the BBC, it has, of course, been in breach of the impartiality clauses in its charter for many years and should, therefore, cease to be funded by the public. The greatest iniquity of all, and one of long standing, however, is that in order to watch ANY TV broadcast one has to pay the BBC. I don't have to pay Tesco to shop at Sainsbury's.

you understand it's optional right?

LIKE TAXATION like ULEZ like CONGESTION CHARGE like ENERGY PRICES LIKE RENT LIKE FOOD WATER rights crazy hwo everyone is forced to GIVE their wealth away for things that should be natrually occuring and abundant.

@@splaffyduck5787 It's not optional. If i want to watch ITV I *must* pay for the BBC. It's as ridiculous as saying that if I want to take the bus I must pay for a train too.

​@@JonathanCheeseman Nicely pointed out for the hard of understanding.

How come you didn't cancel it when Gary voted for nz Germany in the referendum and the bbc didn't fire him?

@@richardgallagher4880 If you're as dumb as your comment suggests, it's honestly impressive that you've survived long enough to get to even this fairly incompetent level of literacy. Good effort.

Me too...

Me too.

​@@richardgallagher4880 people cancel at different times for different reasons, he has cancelled, give the bloke a thumbs up and perhaps encourage others to follow his lead.

and his comments about people who 'aren't interested in protecting minorities; a clue as to where he was prepared to take the argument ; ie IF YOU DON'T PAY YOUR LICENCE FEE YOUR ALL WHITE RACISTS; which is quite in line with the general sentiment of the BBC

Indeed and good point, well made. Anyway, this discussion raised a couple of questions for me. Does Mr. Bolton have anything other than mistruths and spurious statistics to contribute to any debate and why are a couple of highly paid MPs moonlighting on GB News at a time that most MPs reserve for meeting their constituents? Re the BBC, it has, of course, been in breach of the impartiality clauses in its charter for many years and should, therefore, cease to be funded by the public. The greatest iniquity of all, and one of long standing, however, is that in order to watch ANY TV broadcast one has to pay the BBC. I don't have to pay Tesco to shop at Sainsbury's.

He also said that there was no evidence of election fraud. So let me get this right, an extremely mentally impaired lasivious old man who barely came out of his basement beat all records that the Nobel Prize winning glory boy Obama set! These are the crazies who run the evil BBC

Why these slow witted GB presenters didn't call him out on that. In fact GB news seems to be going the way of sky news.

I'd say the main issue with gb news is that it's allegedly impartial and yet among it's top leadership you'll find a former tory councillor and someone who's donated over £400k to the tory party... might as well just call a spade a spade and rebrand as the Conservative party broadcasting company

BBC is just englands biggest Pedophile ring front

I haven't watched the bbc for many years my life is better for it its disgusting to be forced to fund pro-EU, anti tory political biase

Defund everything with Britain in the name.

Have you had them after u yet.

Here, here. Their impartiality sucks and they don't give me real news about the world around me just the extreme far left indoctrination. What they spew is so far from the reality I see, that I'm keeping that distance between BBC and my money.😊

always pays to keep doors open - where and if you can ,

Same Old Same They Love bbC ./ Ok ./U Keep your Job Then ?

I think that the BBC is more of a gravy train than a public broadcaster these days. A good way for the wealthy people at the top to make themselves even wealthier, and never mind making quality programmes.

Yep, he will have his pension(s) to consider

His pension depends on it.

And people around the world also look up to the NHS. Healthcare for the world paid for by the British.

thats not entirely correct as some countries also have their licence

@@sweeta17 Name One.

@@johndean1634 germany at 18.36 euros monthly and a few others and many countries have stopped it . i saw it on wikipedea a whole list .

That was decades ago NO LONGER, it's generally held in contempt worldwide.

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Spot on.👍

The dark side of our population (fortunately not 52% anymore!) is running out of targets to vandalise. They've destroyed most of the crown jewels of British industry and now they've turned their eyes to the NHS and the BBC. They are tools of the huge foreign corporations who are circling to get their paws on what is left of Britain.

Spot on. This discussion raises a couple of questions for me. Does Mr. Bolton have anything other than mistruths and spurious statistics to contribute to any debate and why are a couple of highly paid MPs moonlighting on GB News at a time that most MPs reserve for meeting their constituents? Re the BBC, it has, of course, been in breach of the impartiality clauses in its charter for many years and should, therefore, cease to be funded by the public. The greatest iniquity of all, and one of long standing, however, is that in order to watch ANY TV broadcast one has to pay the BBC. I don't have to pay Tesco to shop at Sainsbury's.

@@anonnemo2504 Absolutely. Here's an idea. Privatise the broadcasting network and get all programme creators, ITV, BBC, whoever, to pay for access to it whereupon they pass that expense onto their own personal customer base of advertisers and subscribers. That should sort the sheep from the goats. I'm sure, however, the BBC would disappear. No tears.

Of course he will be receiving a nice Pension from his former employer. THE BBC.

​@robertadams1054 . Not out of my money he won't. !!@@

the end of throwing money at every liberal/commie/marxist presenter in sight and the end of the BBC ... hoorah!

You are right - if the BBC had to alter itself to fit a subscription model it would not be able to exist in its traditional and current form. By that I mean it wouldn't be able to indulge purely itself, and be a safehouse for the extreme left/progressive personalities that it embodies at the moment. It would have to evolve, change, and shape up to appeal to a broad mass audience. And that would be a death knell to a lot of the people who have become attached within the Corporation. I'm actually sad and town on the issue, as ideally what I would like to see is an independent 'John Birt' type of figure sent in there with a tough remit to eject the dead wood, dismantle the cult-type mentality that has taken hold in there by bringing in some genuinely contrasting voices and viewpoints, and completely rethink the television arms aims and strategies - a new television vision is badly needed for 2023/4 as what we have become stuck with is now a very staid and lethargic output that belongs 20-30 years ago. At a certain point in time the BBC1 output stopped moving forward, and became more inward looking and fixated on 'inclusivity & diversity' strategies over actual mass market entertainment and wide appeal... Something IS coming. The BBC can't keep ignoring the real world around it in favour of its own preferences. And after the Gary Lineker fiasco it likely has just triggered the start of its own final demise, in its current form.

Have a look at what happened to the similarly left leaning CNN. They launched their own subscription channel, CNN+. Subscription sales were a total disaster and they had to can it within a few months.

since so many gave it up how can they even afford to up it by 50 p let alone 13 pounds ?

Most businesses would love to circumnavigate market forces ie producing products/services for which customers are prepared to pay. The BBC produces the ideological crap that their execs & wealthy celebs endorse & even though only the 10-20% of limp liberal Guardian readers support this woke brainwashing, the cash rolls in from the entire population, regardless. Licence holders have the rare privilege of having to pay a fee to be indoctrinated into the authoritarian cult of wokeism - so "has the BBC had its day?" Hell yes.....nuke the biased anachronistic behemoth from orbit, it's the only way to be sure!

Nor me I will not pay them

Just about everything that comes out of their mouths .

Politicians will never get rid of it they have their fingers in the pie from the tv licence

Get rid of it yourself

The politicians need the bbc to pump out their propaganda to the sheeple

Its paying for that signal which cost so much in the first place billions of dollar licence contracts for these wave bands and celeb management creaming of the top?

im 55 and when i was growing up it wasnt unusual for the big tv shows to get audiences of 20 to 25 million viewers which would have equated to about half of the population.

@@oldfatbastad6053 Shame that everyone doesn't refuse to pay the license, they couldn't send us all to jail - bring down the BBC asap - it's not longer fit for purpose

you can literally just choose to not have a tv license. Most good tv is from digital platforms nowadays anyway. You lot just thrive on having something to whine about. The irony is you're so deeply in need of something to feel outraged about that you don't even realise the BBC is paid tory media, you've convinced yourselves it's left wing 🤣

why should we be forced to pay FOR HEALTH CARE of other people be forced to pay to indoctrnate your own children be forced to pay to BE TOLD WHAT TO DO BY people you know don't do the same.

@@arcadealchemist you also pay for your healthcare, and by your logic everyone else is paying for your healthcare. If you understood the real costs of monthly private health insurance (could easily be over £1000 a month for a family) then you'd stop throwing such a tantrum. Equally, from your comment it seems pretty obvious why it's so important that someone else educates your children 🤣

free in Russia . Putin is now the leader of the free world now Biden is a complete puppet.🤣

Izvestia (News) and Pravda (Truth). In the News there is no Truth, and in the Truth, there is no News

How do you prove you don't watch it

@@wolves1980 very easy. If they come knocking and search warrant. They can check

@@wolves1980 I phoned up, asked for a refund.. said my tv wasn’t working. They said I had to prove it.. I said in this country they have to prove it by law. I received my 6 months refund in two weeks. Since then every two years or so they ask if my tv is working yet. NO it’s not. So that is one way. You receive a letter saying no license needed. I use my tv for DVD’s that’s all.

Cancelled mine 4x yrs ago. Had enough of their repeat programmes.

​@@Yournamehere9160 don't answer the door to them, how many doors do you hear getting smashed in for TV licence evasion? Let me help you - none!

It's now referred to as The Begum Broadcasting Corporation.

Yes, any reputation the BBC may have had for impartiality went out of the window before, during and after Brexit. Anyway, this discussion raised a couple of questions for me. Does Mr. Bolton have anything other than mistruths and spurious statistics to contribute to any debate and why are a couple of highly paid MPs moonlighting on GB News at a time that most MPs reserve for meeting their constituents? Re the BBC, it has, of course, been in breach of the impartiality clauses in its charter for many years and should, therefore, cease to be funded by the public. The greatest iniquity of all, and one of long standing, however, is that in order to watch ANY TV broadcast one has to pay the BBC. I don't have to pay Tesco to shop at Sainsbury's.

Agree ,the BBC meant well presented well produced neutral news and programmes, reluctantly as an octogenarian licence payer I will be cancelling.iwont pay anyone to push any agendas like now with pro EU, pro anti marriage between opposite sets,pro Marxism,and to pay the absurd salaries paid to people to put their anti Britain gobs jnto top gear ,not sacking Lineker was a mistake .

Utterly agree with all of this. It saddens me beyond words that what I used to love about the BBC has now devolved into a platform for activism and promotes the cultural underbelly of migrant society. This on top of its globalist outlook has done it for me for the longest time. I would dearly love to see it change back to something useful and not a mouthpiece for shitting on my country.

You do understand that the corporation receives monies from the EU to promote their agenda, ie unfettered immigration from Muslim countries..

if you watch broadcast tv, then you have to pay...if you don't watch broadcast tv, they can't make you pay, its not illegal to not watch and not pay

the spirit of the bbc was to avoid the political biase and fake news of broadcasters like msnbc, cnn, fox unfortunately the bbc biase is now just as bad as those american broadcasters, if the bbc won't change course, they need to have their funding model changed

a few countries charge license fee . germany 1 of the highest its 18.36 euros monthly and many other countries have abolished theirs . i just checked it on wikipedia . we gave it up almost 5 years ago i am very glad to say .

So is having a king 🤴 in 21st century. But here u r 😂😂

@@sweeta17That’s right. Germany is another lefty hellhole which is forcing this crap on the people. The people pay to get brainwashed.

People keep it under threat of prosecution. Remove that and watch people cancel….

Older people dont watch much TV anymore either. In fact, I hardly know anyone who watches much TV anymore. And the viewing figures do reflect this. Top TV shows used to register 20 plus million viewers. Today they get excited if they get 8 million.

Well said. The bbc will go bust first. Think they REALLY need to look into offering it as a subscription before it ends up that way. If the bbc truly believe they provide a good service they'll go down that route.....but they know they're not good value for money.

Tv programmes weren't as good as they were for the young generation in the 80s in those times it was the best so not surprised of the change

You need to have a government willing to scrap license fee. Neither the Tories nor labor will do that.

So Don't

Go online or call them simply say you don’t need one. Say you only watch recordings and streaming and don’t use i player. Be polite if you call them. They will write every 2 years to ask if everything is the same. Just go online and say it is. It’s so easy. Don’t need to have the stress of them knocking on your door.

@@harold6863 thank you

@@harold6863 No need to do that just stop paying and close the door on them if they knock.

Cancel the direct debit first. You don’t have to ring them or go online complete a’ no licence needed form’, just bin all the abrupt letters

BBC is sh*tting on countries whom are not on their globalist side, I think they have offices in foreign countries pushing their agenda and their lies. They want to control the narrative, so if they are going down, that is a good f@cking news for the whole world.

@ArchiveDOTorg Very true, I'm sick of hearing about how respected it is around the world and it's world services, when it's possibly now one of the world's channels in Britain were we are forced to pay for it.

@@nightowl7459 i cancelled my license ages ago. i just use the internet and watch what i want, which is largely educational material. no need for anyone to have a license in the age of the internet. live broadcasts are a waste of time.

@@romeisfallingagain I agree, the only reason I pay mine is because my TV is very visible when you walk up the path, but I'm going to be relocating very soon and after that no licence, plus I was taken to court many years ago and it ended up costing me quite a bit although I had many years of non payment before that.

@@nightowl7459 theres no law about having a tv. i have one, its connected to my computer. i use it as a monitor. you could even get a tiny cheap small computer to plug into yours. just remove the ariel. you dont need live broadcasts. you can fill out the form on tv license website to say you dont need one because you dont watch live tv. once you stop watching tv, and just stream what ever you want.

That’s what u get for keeping a monarchy. 😂😂 u guys live in d dark ages

Is there a way around it or you just don't watch any live TV? Thanks

They can, and should do so legally. Stop watching as well. I did years ago having realised I barely watched anything they put out bar basic news. It was easy and never missed it. There is no use whatever for 'live' tv watching, I want and expect things to be on demand in this day and age, when I want to watch and the whole series at once not dribbled out one episode a week! The BBC and live broadcast tv is like a horse and cart on a motorway full of cars.

@Nicholas Postlethwaite I am the same. I stopped watching TV 14 years ago. 99% of it is shite, and I don't think it's a coincidence they are called programmes.

As the government uses the bbc as a place for over paid jobs for government friends your idea might be the best every one stop paying.

You're either not watching live broadcast TV (from any broadcaster) or you are watching and you're breaking the law. Which one is it? Simply 'not having a license perfectly legally' means nothing if you don't give context. I don't have a shotgun licence perfectly legally....

@@JonathanCheeseman Perfectly legally mean they don't watch any live tv as it is being broadcast or BBC i player. Not really too difficult to comprehend now is it?

@@carlgrainger2053 Yes, and it's utterly meaningless to simply say without context that one doesn't have a license. The question isn't "Shall I choose to watch live TV or not?" it's "If I want to watch ANY live TV from ANY broadcaster why should I pay for the BBC when I don't use them?" As I said, I don't have a shotgun license perfectly legally but that's meaningless because I don't want or need a shotgun. If someone doesn't want to watch ANY live TV then it doesn't matter that they don't need a license and that I do becaue they have made a choice to not have TV. There, that's not really too difficult to comprehend now is it?

@@JonathanCheeseman obviously I don’t watch live tv or bbc iplayer. Having sought legal advice now I don’t and will not receive any more tv licence letters period. Otherwise I will sue them for harassment.

@@mitchmitchell7470 So you made a choice to not watch live TV, not a choice to forgo a license. Hardly the same thing now, is it? You really didn't need legal advice for that - I went 10+ years without TV and I stopped the letters without the need of external help or guidance.

Because it’s colonial bully. Dangerous and damaging. U want them to pay for getting filleted?? Satanist

The BBC show adverts abroad, so why can’t they show them here instead of the licence fee?

Also the BBC's back catalogue up to the point where the license fee is abolished should be free to anyone in the UK.

BTW you can watch many of those BBC studio programmes that they have sold to other TV companies and also broadcast on the BBC on streaming services, HBO is one that come to mind (His dark materials is one)

@@originalshadowfax His Dark Materials was made as a co-production with HBO. If you're going to make a point at least make the example a factual one, eh. The BBC has a deal with HBO for streaming rights to older seasons of some of its shows, such as Doctor Who and Luther.

The old internal production divisions within The BBC were formed into BBC Studios in 2015, with the intent of making it a for-profit subsidiary by 2018. In response to fears that BBC Studios would be overly dominant in tv production, the BBC has put out much of its non-news programming to tender, so some shows are made by outside companies (ironically including ITV Studios). As for foreign activities, BBC Worldwide was merged into BBC Studios to bring together production and sales. By the terms of the Royal Charter, the BBC is not allowed to use licence fee payers money for activities outside the UK (news reporting obviously excepted), which is why BBC shows are either sold to foreign broadcasters, or, if a BBC Channel exists in a country, such as BBC America, it is funded by advertising. Whilst many people here just blandly say the BBC should be funded by ads here too, the question must be answered as to whether there is sufficient advertising revenues to go around should all the currently licence fee funded channels suddenly start showing ads. Would the quality of UK TV be improved if some of the small channels showing much better programming (eg, Talking Pictures) suddenly face a loss of advertisers. Indeed, could those channels survive if the BBC became a commercial channel. The licence fee obviously must go in the end, but it requires somewhat deeper thinking than is displayed on RU-vid comments (or indeed some videos) as to a replacement model.

@@ShanghaiRooster My point is, which I believe I made, was that programmes that are/were being broadcast live on the BBC (for which you should have a licence) could be watched elsewhere on a streaming service (which you don't need a licence for)

Start a petition

Oh yes that worked well for brexit didn't it.

@@zog97xy brexit is not Finnish yet. Remove all WEF members from government and councils. Vote Reform uk.

Start a petition then 🤷‍♀️

I'm pretty sure he's got a clause in his pension fund agreement that he's got to defend the BBC to the hilt

Yep known as the ministry of propaganda in the UK

Some years ago I actually wrote to the BBC asking if I could pay the licence fee to watch the channel here in Italy. They did not respond. I think if they went to a subscription service many expats would pay for it.

@@kathyg8535It is available through satellite service. I do run into it quite often.

Not if you cancel your licence. You then cannot watch live tv or BBC I-player.

Only if they are "caught" watching or recording live tv

You’re not forced to pay. Cancel your tv licence but you then cannot watch live tv or BBC I-player.

@@serenityabound5052 I would, I don’t actually watch TV, but other family members do, so it depends on your situation doesn’t it.

@@chriswayneevans Yes! My reply to similar was if they wanted to watch live TV then THEY had to pay the licence fee. THEY subscribe to streaming instead.

Not quite true.....read the small print. There seems to be no legitimate way to sidestep the license..... ridiculous but true.

@@beachcaster56 not true, but feel free to keep paying if you like....

@@beachcaster56 You can phone the BBC or go to the BBC website, declare that you don't need a TV licence and they will cancel your need for a licence for 2 years. After 2 years the BBC contact you to confirm your viewing habits have not changed. There are just a few basic questions you need to answer on how you watch TV. Essentially, if you do not watch or record terrestrial TV, live TV or use the BBC iplayer service then you do not need a licence. Just steer away from live broadcasts and iplayer and you are good to go. Cancelled my licence 3 years ago, last year BBC contacted me to confirm that I still do not need a licence. It's as easy as that, and is perfectly legal.

@@byronjames3437 that’s what I have done. Glad you explained it better than I did in a comment.

@@beachcaster56 if you don't watch any live TV you dnt need a licence, get rid of it.

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Selling on programmes that the license fee ( our money ) paid for.

Those pair are pro govt stooges, pro jab. Only got to listen to them. They go along with the narrative. Never watch when they are on, some of the worst on there. Prefer Dan Wootton, Nana Aqua, Patrick Christy, Laurence Fox & Nigel Farage.

Give it a rest.

@@richardgallagher4880 🤡

@@patriot1066 The endless false consp theories.

@@richardgallagher4880 How are they false consp theories? Any evidence on your part? Bridgen used pharma testing data and UK Government data to prove virus vaccine harm. Probably have your head stuck in the sand. Wake UP!

Good point - the more the fee goes up, the more we save!

Used a fire engine lately?

@@richardgallagher4880 I don't think equating the BBC with an emergency service is a valid argument. Yeah i'll defiantly need to visit the supermarket later on today for some food but I don't intend paying the supermarkets in advance once a month just incase I fancy a late night bacon sandwich...

@Old Fashioned my greatest concern is that the government will lack the willpower or backbone to do it and we'll end up all paying the license as a renamed tax instead

@@madeyoulook6392 : Yeah and those that aren’t paying it now will have another tax burden to bear. The French wouldn’t put up with bullshit like this !!!!

@@Kingcarparpeggio time to buy a yellow vest 🤗 🔥

If you say its rubbish why haven't you cancelled

Yeah, and I pay for the poxy, lefty ABC through my taxes.. same difference

Won’t happen in this country, the BBC are the mouthpiece of the Labour party.