I think you hit the nail on the head - Complaining is draining and she doesn’t play the mainstream game. You can’t be critical of the mainstream and be in it at the same time. Amanda needs to decide if she wants to sit at the mainstream table or keep building her own.
Agreed! I do find the rant/complaining exhausting. She's highly intelligent and talented. Id encourage anyone in her position to use their energy to find/create their own lane. I don't see how beneficial it is to complain about where you don't fit. Im not sure how that's working out for her. But there's space for us all somewhere.
Please share how so...I've always thought this but when she complains and no one brings up real examples countering her, she seems legit to be able to play victim.
The easiest way to get people to dislike you is to be arrogant, combative as hell, pompous, and unfriendly. Regardless of your talent and credentials. That’s all I gotta say..
All she does is complain, a perfect example of her confusing complaining is when she complained for months after she left the real, but when the real aired their last episode, they did not include her in the farewell special. Guess what? she still complained that they didn’t include her even though she complained the whole time like I don’t get it.
I think Amanda is extremely passionate about social justice. She deals with issues with a sense of urgency and that is how she expects everyone with a platform to operate. This passion and urgency is also found in her delivery, which overwhelms a lot of people. She is extremely fair in her views and will hold anyone, including herself, accountable. This type of personality will always be misunderstood. It's a very lonely place to be in. Not everyone is meant to conform, but that doesn't mean her message isn't valuable. I understand her.
@nancykerrigan listen to her radio show, her podcast, the many interviews she does. She often reflects on herself and the mistakes she's made. Go watch her most recent interview on the relationship restored podcast.
I agree with your perspective. I have always felt this way about her but not many people agree with me. It seems to me she always has to be right and she must always be the smartest person in the room. Though she is smart, she does not need to come off like that to everyone.
I’m a fan of Floetry, play their music still and, I was so excited to go see them when they had a reunion concert tour years ago after being broke up for 9 years. It was good! Amanda being a part of Floetry at one time is surprising news to me.
They say she fights for social justice for black people but what is her record? Does she have some sort of organization with grassroots activity or has she influenced any piece of legislation that has affected black lives? We need to start asking these questions.
I thoroughly enjoy her. and appreciate her. Whether she's alot or not. We cant all be the same. We need people like her in the community as well as someone who is opposite of her. She's brilliant and brings a different thought pattern as well as teach us about things we might not have known. Another intelligent educated person in the community is always a win for me whether I agree with everything she says or not. .
I was influenced by Amanda in my younger 20s. I was attracted to her talent. IG helped me see that she had a super direct personality. I didn’t always agree with her stance on things, but I didn’t know her personally…it was easy to overlook. Fast forward to 2018 when she was doing her smart, funny, and black show live. She came to Dallas and her attitude with the audience put a very sour taste in my mouth. From that point, it was hard to overlook what I used to tolerate. I found other black women online with similar intelligence and talent because I started to see that Amanda has a complex about her that I could not explain. 6 years later and You just explained it ! lol I want to support her so bad, but she makes it so hard to support her unfortunately. I hope she accepts what we’re all saying collectively and give us a warm and inviting Amanda because she’s sooooooo talented!
The way Amanda fights for social justice is off putting to the people who just want to focus on cute lil parties and awards shows. Her commentary on Gaza alone has made her front and center on discussing the plight of the world. To use her likeness and talents to host shows and not invite her is wild. I feel like Black people who "play the game" in Hollywood do not like someone who won’t play the game in their midst. It reminds them of how cowardly they are. I stan Amanda. She has opened my eyes up to the need for more social justice advocacy. I feel like when people assume she is just a contrarian, that is White Supremacy rhetoric that is equivalent to calling all Black women "angry" or "aggressive"
She has a right to get the way she does, but I also feel like she should be reflecting on why she’s in her position as well. Maybe if change isn’t what she wants to do then she should start coming to terms with where that will take her. Also maybe those spaces aren’t for her and she should stop trying to force it.
I personally like Amanda Seales and think that she should be acknowledged and invited to black events. She has never been the status quo and will fight for black and brown people, even if it makes others " uncomfy" . For that reason alone, she should get an invite.
Should she be invited into these spaces? YES but you can’t make people appreciate you and you’re worth!!! Amanda should keep doing what she’s doing regardless if she’s gets the accolades from the Black Entertainment… Don’t go where you’re not wanted or appreciated!!!!
I don't think you guys have ever listened to any of her podcasts and or radio show. I think her intellect is over alot of people's heads!!! And as POC we all should be as passionate as she is about things involving us.
That's that arrogant attitude. There is no POC. Keep trying to overtake blk Americans experience and hit a wall. She's Guyanese, imagine me going over there constantly telling them about themselves as if they don't know. Just because I learned about them in college.
Amanda shot herself in the foot. Yes, she has the experience/credentials and you would expect/hope that she would actively be in these spaces, but she can't read the room. Talent and experience mean nothing if you're not in charge and intolerable to your peers.
I've seen Amanda Sil's in person at her shows. A couple of times I really like to vibes A few years ago Lately She has been ALOT . But I do remember her going to the black women's IN hollywood twice .... The second time she win the next day. She went on her Instagram. Of course, she didn't name names but she said something like your favorite actresses are mean girls and all that. So why would people keep inviting you to places? When you're just wanna go on your social media and talk sht about the event.
Amanda fights for the people she cant and wont be controlled and will always tell you how she feels. Some people/organizations dontbwant to be associated with a "tell it like is " black woman that puts people in their place.
Perfect analysis! Amanda is a celebrity participant on the 25 Words or Less game show and she is condescending AF. She’ll give bad clues and then act mad that the contestants can’t read her mind and guess what she meant. If she’s like that on a game show, I can’t imagine how she would be perceived in Hollywood. SMH.
I think she’s amazing. I agree with her more than not. However, I fight depression, and sometimes the truth she shares takes me to a bad state. I find myself avoiding the news as well. I find her to be a truth teller, and the truth is so ugly it’s a lot. I hope I make sense. I feel that she has earned her place at the table. Shame.
I feel that is fair for here to not feel invited to these spaces for sure... mainly because she has contributed to this culture, and she has a lot of knowledge about what is going on in these spaces... i also just think that there's a time for everything if your not in the mood to hear her talk about certain issues, then just move on.... you don't have to view her stories every day... she can be that information person that you know.... ive also seen her happy I feel that a lot of the negative vibes over shadow the happiest sometimes but then again we have to understand her degree is in African American studies so she is informed on our issues and our issues in this country have not been nice... so her delivery won't be nice sometimes. I feel that we need to know when to come to her with things... finally, I do think Amanda should chill and understand where some people are coming from... but also what is draining about the things she talks about... I feel that if everyone thinks it is draining, then are we all not interested in what she has to inform us about.... I don't think that there is anyone else doing what Amanda's doing out here, so we have to be mindful of who we have excluded.... there's a lot of saturated content on social media, but it's not a lot of Amanda type content, so booty shaking and materialistic things aren't everyone cup of tea. I go to Amanda for information so that my information guide I don't go to her to be entertained or to laugh about something... we just need to know when to go to her.
I remember her on the Nickelodeon show "My Brother and Me" back in the early 90's. Her character Deonne was always talking too much and getting on everyone's nerves, kinda like the child version of who she is now.
I don’t think it’s wrong that she’s not being invited. She’s gotta make the necessary changes to be invited into the spaces she wants to occupy. Professionalism is key. It’s not always preferred, but it’s key. And professionalism is more about your attitude than it is your efficiency and talent.
No we haven’t, I rock with Amanda Seales… And she also can be problematic at times. That being said, she is a lot.Your commentary is brilliant, thank you ❤️❣️💕💜💜💜💜
I think that Amanda is just not palatable for some ppl and that is unfortunate because she’s a great commentator, but she def lacks self awareness as you said. 😩
I am not familiar with her. It may be my lack of a social media presence! LOL! I DO KNOW for WHATEVER platform you are on, you have to 'fit in'! That to me translates to 'some' adaptability skills. Thanks for this video!
Amanda was trying to get into a party hosted by her CO STAR on Insecure Issa Raye. If that don’t tell you something I don’t know what will. I like Amanda honestly-but my issue with her is that it appears that she comes from a place of arrogance. She is self righteous. But more importantly she isn’t altruistic. If she does or says anything good it is because it is to be better than others. Hollywood is a horrifying place to be honest. It’s not easy navigating those relationships. I don’t fault anyone for having their guard up. But if she wants to live in that world she is going to have to swim in its waters.
Floetry wasn't a trio, she replaced Natalie, and fans weren't having it. Genius mgmt decided not to forewarn fans. Amanda suffered the blowback of that fumble. I remember Amanda from My Brother and me. Way back when. Hehe. I'm sorry she feels isolated in an industry she's time into since childhood. I'll also say Amanda Seales doesn't owe people niceness...buuut if that's the energy she chooses to put out she needs to be prepared for the consequences. She's not affected and industry people seem to be very fake and phony, she also seems to be that certain strain of BW that always have to have a political agenda or cause. Girl you're on the Real. Read the room, read the audience.
...Amanda blocked me for saying that her 10-year glowup challenge pics were consistent, and not much had changed...so at times, I think she puts 100 on 10. I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks that way. But I wonder how that flies in the professional spaces that she's in. Sucks on one hand because black women are always told to tone it down, but if you can't be your full self in this space, where can you be? I still like her opinions and quick wittedness, though, and even supported the SF&B show when it came to Atlanta because it's my type of nerdy.
Amanda lost me when she LIED on a black man about SA. Plus if Issa Rae doesn't even F with you then it is a YOU problem. I am a loner and I tend to Isolate myself when I don't feel comfortable around people especially at work. But still I have people I F with and some I don't. When the whole crew at work don't like you, then something is wrong WITH you.
I had the identical sentiments, 4 yrs ago on a FB Post i made. With this New series QUIET ON SET!!! God Has protected her and kept her from the childhood child star trauma. I do believe part of her make is striving to keep balance and exercise her intellectual part of the brain, because of the entertainment industry. She is still trying to keep a foot in the fun part when News and World News is where she should be. She needs to stop trying to make fetch happen. Amanda needs to relax.
I think that at the end of the day you have to decide what is going to make you happy? Are you going to be happy being in mainstream or being more independent? You are rarely able to do both at the same time, you can be in mainstream until you get big enough where then you can venture out and be more outspoken or you can just be more outspoken from jump and accept that you will offend and get pushback from people, especially if you’re going against the grain.
This is completely my opinion: I think she feels as if she should be asked to these events instead of her asking herself. Usually celebs have a publicist or someone who will get them access to these events and I wonder if she has a team doing this for her. Ion know… maybe I’m wrong For nominations, you have to submit your work…again Ion know
It’s both fair and expected. The tolerance for Black women with her personality is very low. I agree she doesn’t have to change, I’m just not sure she should be surprised. She does have a right to feel bothered though.
I like Amanda. She’s great at what she does and I particularly love that conversation she had with Caitlin Jenner! However, she can be a lot to take in at times and I’m just confused on what she wants. One minute she doesn’t care about being accepted by media but then she does, which is why she created her own lane, according to her. Idk…but I like her
Okay let me break this down because I've been here from the beginning of Amanda seales sometimes Amanda sounds like a child who wasn't invited to Susie Q's party. If you're such this social activist person did you ever see Angela Davis whine and cry because she wasn't invited to somewher, no she just fought the good fight and became a professor. If that's what you claim to be then be that and they will follow but nowadays you have to do something to get on these award shows. My idol Prince Rogers Nelson put it in a song "I don't care to win awards", girl you are doing this for all the wrong reasons if you're wanting to be invited to a party pick a struggle you either going to be an activist and do the work or be on the red carpet clambering for accolades.
I think Amanda should work on herself more. Yes she is smart but is she likable? I think in her industry that is more important. Maybe she should teach in academia. I did not personally love her personality displayed on The Real. But maybe she has changed. I think it’s just a case of likability. Now about her comments regarding black spaces. I don’t think she is owed an invite just for being black, she still have to be relevant and pushing higher pass that glass ceiling. Amanda just talks. She needs a project for sure. I hope she has some new things in the works because she is talented. Maybe she should write a book.
Amanda is a lot. I feel bad for her though. It’s a very tricky space to express yourself and voice your opinions and still be liked and accepted by everyone in these major spaces. She should just focus on her podcast and standup
Amanda stands up for herself and others and what is right vociferously and people hate her for her delivery and die her having the nerve to be so opinionated and vocal. She’s doing a ton of great work. She’s polarizing for sure but most important figures are.
I think Amanda is very intellect and funny but she definitely does get her own way. She's one of those people that's gonna say what she feels regardless of the cost. If Amanda were a man she'd be way further in her career. But she seems (for the most part) more content than before
Yes she is always mad about something and it’s so draining. Yes she is intelligent we get it but she is just not likable. When she was on the real I used to roll my eyes because everything doesn’t have to be on the contrary and negative
Amanda is definitely a woman who is educated, witty, can hold a convo in any space, and for real for real? Her intellect can be off putting to anyone that doesnt understand or is ill equipped to get and dirty with her knowledge of events and or world think pieces. Women like her, Angela Rye, and even Unlikeable Candace Owens can be seen as a lot to digest, especially if the conversations get deep, heightened, and overly philosophical. But honestly? Is it their job to be only slightly controversial or is it our jobs to become more educated and learned when it comes to issues that arent strictly feel good and pleasantries? I love AS and yes she can be verbally combative; but is that a reason to ice her out? Real question.
I actually hate the notion that people believe her intellect is off putting to others, or that others cant keep up with their intellect, that's not the case at all, its her delivery more than anything else. As far as icing her out, that would be a question to the industry she's in, as only her peers can ice her out.
@@TammyTalks I hate that as well, but I've heard and read takes and opinions that ostracize her intellect which is crazy! I love a person, especially a woman that can hold a conversation that's light and airy, but also deep and introspective. I love listening to her breakdown scenarios and situations that will make someone pause, but do it in a way that's thought provoking. Jasmine Crockett can be seen as a close second in her contrarian outtakes, but people love her in contrast to Amanda.
Here’s the thing with Amanda that no one also likes to talk about because many people fall into America’s one drop trap, SHE’S MIXED NOT BLACK. As someone who’s also of Caribbean descent like she is, look at her mother, that’s not a black woman but she does have a black father. Her mother is very obviously a mixed West Indian. I know Amanda identifies as black but she likely does not have more than 50% African dna. Im Tammy’s color and I have less than 50% African dna because of my West Indian admixture. On average most African Americans have 70-85% African dna when taking an ancestry test. In the Caribbean mixed is its own race. I believe Amanda probably struggled to feel accepted by any 1 group growing up in America like I did. Im dark skin with long 3b curls and ‘slim’ facial features and I’ve been told by manyyy black people “you’re not black”. But you’re so right Amanda is so condescending so she makes it worse for herself.
@@invinciblesummer2844 Nope you’re wrong she has 1 black parent and 1 non black parent. Amanda’s father is black. Her mother is a South Indian woman who was born in the West Indies, look up a picture of her. You people hear mixed and only think black + white. You can be black and mixed with other things. But you’ll claim anybody as black and then complain when your demographic isn’t represented. Be forreal.
@keekssss South Indian??? No , her mom is Grenandian. Yes, a lot of folks in Grenada have Indian roots because SI were brought over as indentured servants but they mixed with the African population on the Island . So while she doesn't have 100% afro roots (most black people born outside Africa dont ), I'm guessing she's predominantly black. I really can't with this 23 and Me Mafia thing, like we expecting people to do whole genealogy reports to prove their black because they look different.
@@invinciblesummer2844 This is how I can tell you’ve never stepped foot in the West Indies. The 2 largest populations is straight up Indian by itself, then the African population makes up the other half. And us who are mixed with both are a *minority* group. Nothing you said changes the *FACT* that her mother is not black. By your logic someone with a white parent and a black parent is mixed, but someone who has a black parent and an Indian parent is not ?? Stop being dense *she does not have 2 black parents* like your typical African American. Amanda constantly others herself. Then y’all wonder why you’re misrepresented but you do it to yourself!!
@@invinciblesummer2844 It's evident you haven't been to the West Indies. The two largest demographics are primarily Indian and African, and us who are mixed with both are the minority. Her mother is Indian and most certainly not black.
Tammy, I agree with your opinion. My mother used to tell me it is not what you say, it is how you say it. I also think that because the topics she speaks about are heavy most don't want to think about those things while attending award shows or celebratory events. Maybe she should highlight what she is doing now to be invited because as you stated, we don't know what she is doing currently.
She just seems such an unlikable person. Do I think it’s wrong she doesn’t get invited to Black events? Sure however everyone has a right to invite people to events that they deem appropriate.
I’m am shocked that y’all are turning on her like this. She’s incredible and actually stands for something. I come here for entertainment but I go to her for real human rights advocacy. Makes me sick that people that make frivolous content for entertainment would turn on a real activist. Take several seats!
Did you listen to the video? No one has turned on her and I praised her as well, so what are you talking about? This has always been the sentiment when it comes to her, hence why she even made the video.
It sounds like you agree that shes great and educated but you're also saying that because she has unpopular opinions and doesn't have a fake bubbly demeanor, shes not being invited to these spaces. This is pathetic. She shouldn't have to present herself in a less "exhausting" manner to appease other black people. Shes angry FOR US! You saying you dont think you've ever seen her laugh or smile, is triggering. This is how most men expect or would like women to act... just be quiet, sweet and beautiful. Absolutely NOT!
@@onyx081 and NOT ONCE did I say “she said these things” I gave my opinion and I’m quite entitled to that. You can interpret it however you see fit. I don’t have to agree with everything someone says. And I WONT!
@@TammyTalks he showed that he “actually listened” because he agreed with you? Wow. lol I’m a new supporter, I’m not a phony one. I’m not here to pander to your opinion. But thank you, I’m aware that I shouldn’t share my contrarian opinion on your page. You don’t appreciate it. Best wishes. God bless.
I think you can speak what’s on your mind, not be mainstream but be personable and or likable. Unfortunately Amanda has not found the balance. I’ve watched her a number of times and while she makes a great argument, she has this obnoxious tendency, in a very condescending way to keep mentioning how educated she is and therefore she is right. There are other ways to get the message across. She is extremely brusque and loves to quarrel like a nagging woman and unfortunately most people don’t warm to that. She heavily comes across as the a-typical angry black woman in the worst confrontational way. She needs to use all that education to operate a bit smarter in the industry. No one owes her anything. You can’t disrespect people, give bad energy and expect them to want to be in the same space as you. Hollywood has big projects to produce and no one wants to work with difficult people. Work hard, play the game and when you have found the fame you want, then you can be as big of an ass as you want.
Amanda should definitely be on the list to Black entertainment/hollywood events. Regarding Insecure, when i think of insecure, i think of love, Black joy, and sisterhood, even brotherhood on and off the screen, so I feel more sad than anything that she is not able to bask in the beautiful legacy of the show. Also, Amanda does not bother me and i dont mind her hypervisibility becuse she talks about important things. Its weird to me that there is not the same uproar for hypervisible folks who are reckless with their platforms and spew nonesense.
I think there is uproar for the hypervisible folks who are reckless as well. Amanda herself pointed this out though, this wouldnt be a conversation had she not started the conversation herself.
What's up! You mentioned that Amanda doesn't need to change but needs to look at her self-awareness. I'd say that people who lacks self awareness are not able to manage their own emotions because they are not aware of how they show up to others or don't care. Also, some of the smartest people also lack interpersonal awareness, which prevents them from processing or caring about other people's emotions. Sometimes people's growth is hindered because they resist change, or others enable poor behavior by sending mixed signals that they do not need to change. Sometimes, change is needed or nothing changes, and if nothing changes, she will continue getting the same results. Nevertheless, you made some great points here. I enjoyed your video. Amanda needs to understand that you can disagree without being disrespectful, combative or off-putting. Word choice, Tone, and Approach can be a game changer on two either spectrum.
I must say, Amanda is highly intelligent, incredibly witty, and firm on her stances. Some people do not like that at all, and she appears to be someone who doesn’t want to “play the game” as they say in the industry (cue her unfortunate meeting with Russell Simmons). But she also has to know that folks who don’t “play the game” or at least aren’t quiet about ish don’t get to go to the industry parties/events-Black or otherwise. I still think it’s messed up she can’t partake, and she’s not being invited. But I hope she moves into another space and just grows in that realm instead. It just doesn’t sound like they care to have her around because she can’t hide her disdain or sugarcoat.
Im an Amanda fan but I can agree that she’s not for everybody. Regarding the industry party she got removed from, she didn’t keep trying to latch onto ppl to get in. Other friends of hers convinced her to go as their guest; when she got in & they told her she had to leave she said she wanted to know who the person was that didn’t want her there and why, since all of her cast members were present. I can completely the arguments for “well if u weren’t on the list frm jump, don’t go”, but I think it’s a little biased to say she continually tried to latch onto multiple ppl to get in. She didn’t even want to go initially but allows her other industry friends who were on the list to coerce her. And she says that in the podcast episode u referred to.
Why oh why do yall call everything bias? LMAO. its not biased to say she tried to latch on multiple people to get it. that is not the definition of bias.
I agree. Amanda is a smart lady and I appreciate some of her view points, however, being a constant contrarian is draining. I feel like she is the type that will make a problem and go cry about it later. I don't think she stands out naturally and her way to get attention is to cause drama tbh. Even in Insecure, her character is the weakest of the ladies.
She can be too much and she is a great actress but she is too much. I have seen a couple of episodes of her show on RU-vid it was pretty good but she just has a weird energy about her. I followed her on Instagram and I just scrolled past her posts.