Has the gas mask problem for those with beards been fixed? 

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Some beards are kept for religious reasons, others are still made to shave for operational requirements

​@@ConReesepick religious or fighting for "your" nation cant have both

@@ah11980 we have both and it works fine

@@ConReese lol no it doesn't guess how i know... im Canadian

I counted 19 with these

"Be in time, mask in Nine!"

On in 5 stay alive, on in 9 just in time

It still is. Just got from basic a month ago and that was our standard.

Had to do it in 8 seconds total for me

Yes, but every new bit of kit needs certifying. "This is how we've always done it previously" when applied to newer equipment hasn't always worked out very well

i do understand the reason behind the development of the hood of the c5b gas mask and in my opinion all gas mask should have a type of chemical hood developed for them. i'm just lightheartedly making fun of this video a bit for "reinventing the wheel" making something that already exists and for all of the reasons behind this hood being developed other then the different head shapes was just a bit goofy to me.

it was! it's called a razor!

Sure go out into combat with a to spec newly built mask from a 100 year old design. Also people of your own skin color also cannot fit in masks without any body hair because if you listened the in service modern tested masks are not one size fit all.

@@1337billybob Real simple, Shave your Face! (Razor's have been around for well over 100 years!) Shave and LOOK like a professional, not some homeless bum in a uniform! As for Canadians in Combat that is actually laughable in it itself. (they need gas masks and Depends adult Diapers) What they also need is a Proper B.M.I. index (I saw a Canadian Army Corporal waddling down the street in Halifax she was 5'1" tall and about 4' wide. She waddled off the base and right to a Donut shop proceeded to eat a bunch of donuts and waddle back to base carrying another box of donuts!) and before anyone says anything the Donut shop was 1/2 a block away, and I was walking behind her to get a coffee at that same donut shop! SEMPER FI

@@1337billybob wtf are you waffling about. No beards, no man buns, no turbans. easy.

They also say uniquely shaped faces. So this is useful beyond people choosing religion over staying alive.

But its not. I can guarantee you are much safer with a mask to skin fit and not an "Air chamber". I'm former Infantryman trained as the NBC expert for my Infantry Company back in the late 80's. If your willing to be at higher risk because you wont break a Tenant of your religion, respect. If not a religious thing, than you would be an utter fool to have a beard in a high threat contaminated environment.

Shaving is a problem in itself in unsanitary conditions. This mask also addresses people with atypical faces.

Ah, I love how everyone misses the part where they say "people with oddly shaped faces". This has been a problem for plenty of soldiers despite shaving.

Why? It happened for hundreds of years prior to WWI

​@@Orbital_Inclination ... and before chemical warfare. Oh, yeah, I get it now. 🤦

Don't worry, in a war those who don't shave will either succumb to chemical warfare or ... shave. It's a non issue, move on. 👍

@@ivancho5854 exactly, because the gas masks of the time were primitive, thus we had to make personnel shave to ensure their safety. Now, thanks to advances in materials and technology, we don't require our personnel to shave because kit like this exists, so there is no need to enforce a facial hair ban, except to appease those with sensitive feelings over what another man grows on his face.

@@Orbital_Inclination Or just issue special kit to people to appease those who put their vanity before their own safety.

nothing in the CAF is standard issue...

There wasn’t bio and chemical war fare then plus they stood in lines and shot at each other different time different war and a bad base line to set our armies standards to

No. Initially it was meant to not give the enemy swordsman a chance to grab by the beard, in more modern times it was meant to fight off numerous parasites, anyone with long hair and beard was and is a source of parasites in the trenches. And yes, shaven face allows to put on gas mask easily, even face only mask gets tightly closed on shaven face, with beard you die.

Its only for certain types of beards where this issue arrises.

@@oisinmtom What beards made of titanium hair that can't be shaved off?

soldiers don't necessarily have an option to shave regardless of the supply situation, there are people for whom shaving causes health complications, especially if you order them to shave with poor equipment and access to hygiene products in a warzone and I think a force that is suffering from skin infection is a less efficient one that a force that has beards. There's also that Canada is running a volunteer force and some people like having a beard. It's not like conscription where you can force servicemen to your whims and they can't choose to not enlist. With haircuts where there are significant health issues and risk to self if they're not kept short but here it also helps people with less common head shapes, so letting people have beards is just a bonus on top

Did you miss the part where they said "oddly shaped faces"?

Good luck halving the army 😂

And then you cut yourself in the wrong climate. Very common common issues.

Safely? Bro, you are in the army, the enemy is lobbing explosive shells your way with the specific intent to kill you.

So no need for armor then? Helmets?

@@vaclavcervinka65 SAFELY MEANS WE KILL THE ENEMY BEFORE THEY KILL BOB

@vaclavcervinka65 More protection means more aggression which means more victory.

Anybody? How about pedos? Should they be allowed to serve? How about gang members? Grapeists? The weak? Down syndrome? Do you think before you speak?

That's because the threat of Germany or Japan using gas was very low. I'm sure guys would have been more conscientious with shaving if the gas threat is high.

Not only that for some men shaving causes rashes and ingrown facial hair so a neat well trimmed beard and moustache is the solution.

@@OscarOSullivan Yes Sir I do agree and completely understand the condition. However, if facing the threat of orc nerve agent your gonna shave right over those bumps to ensure your mask fits as tight as possible.

Soldiers were clean shaven in the trenches during WW1 when not doing so would give you a very bad day.

​@@ivancho5854luckily, respirator technology has now reached a sufficient standard that WWI grooming standards are no longer required

here in the Canadian forces if there's a cbrn threat or training we shave anyway, no one has an issue with it, even those with religion restrictions

​@@co8498that's the same for UK forces. This is just a development to allow those with religious reasons not to need to.

It’s not an easy solution. Shaving sucks.

None of you have served and it shows. Tons of soldiers don't have the ski ln to shave or the right face for old gas masks.

Not In Canada. We have lots of seals of different colours and different facial hair - just as we like it

@@taralown7023 Canucks are not serious warfighters.

@@jon1801 Tell that to the nazis during ww2

​@@jon1801 Bingo, we have a winner!

@@Oddball_E8that was a long time ago and a lot different generation of Canadians. Most now care about nothing but themselves…same as almost every country in the world right now 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

Shaving is currently still mandatory in high threat CBRN environments or other times they are required for a seal, but otherwise there's no reason for personnel to be clean-shaven as long as it is maintained as per regs. If this kit works, it will remove the need to shave in cbrn environments for those that wish not to do so, which is their choice.

So you want to keep recruiting numbers low and have a middle finger to people with skin conditions and oddly shaped heads?

Bunch of slack Jawed cologne weirdos if ya ask me. Whole bunch of these call of duty Superheros showed up at tim Hortons with their pants not bloused, unshaved, hands in pockets on their phones and rags on their heads, even officers. I fought in 08 for this Gong show? Very slack. Vet, 2ed battlion, golf, QRF, PRT, 06-13.

When war comes the gentle and caring military changes. They will be ordered to shave. Skin problems? Shave. Religious exemption? Shave. Snowflake? Shave. End of discussion.

Problem is everybody is leaving. Army is begging and Beggars can’t be choosers

I get the idea that DREA whatever scientists obtain cooperation at all costs guaranteed by the top brass when experimenting on regular soldiers. I never got the impression the culture in these kinds of places really cared about the quality of the programs they developed. 'Wrong headed' results oriented people such as Gerald Bull made this ivory tower insular culture public and he was severely punished for it.

If anything, these hoods will be better for those drills because you can lift the mask portion and still remain under the cover of the hood portion whilst carrying out the drills, preventing any falling chemical agent from landing on your face or infiltrating round the sides of the mask

Our guys can also have dyed hair (bright pink or neon green) and paint their nails

​@@mistergrosbig4085 so yes, it is that woke lol

And who have you killed for your country? Three terrorists? Two? One?

The beard angle will help recruitment.

You're free to continue shaving, but with this kit others will get a choice not to

Profile pic checks out...

We can't address anything but the top issue at any given time?

That's what the current policy is

The NASA story is false. Graphite shavings from pencils cause signficiant damage to electronics in zero G. Both the US and Russians used pens designed for zero G conditions.

So that makes beards okay? What a pinhead.

​@@MrSatyre1there's no reason beards are not okay anyway 99.9% of the time

Or get kit which works well enough that you don't need to shave

Easy if it isn't an integral part of your religion

​@@Orbital_Inclination You do know that a lot of Sikhs served in the trenches during WW1 clean shaven, right?

​@@ivancho5854because the technology of the time necessitated that. It no longer does, so I don't know what point you're trying to make.

In your opinion. In any case, it makes zero difference to a person's operational effectiveness nowadays, except in a few limited cases where being clean shaven is still mandated, such as when wearing an aircrew oxygen mask. As for being unprofessional, nothing about maintaining a neat beard according to regs is unprofessional.

Also not every man can shave without medical issues so neat and short beard and moustache is the better option.

The enemy can grab and hold literally anything else on your body

The whole point of this clip is that you would no longer need to choose, because you could have a beard and effective protection

@@Orbital_Inclination It was a solution to a problem we created.

​@@Synystr7the problem was issuing kit that was technically limited, resulting in a requirement to shave to mitigate against it's deficiencies

I don't think grappling in a CBRN environment is a realistic scenario

@@coconuthead1361 don't speak about things you no nothing about.

Armies have not had shaven soldiers for a millennia. Shaving trends in the military follow shaving trends for civilians. It comes and goes.

@@Wadser confidently incorrect yikes bozo

@@Ni66otFa66er He may be wrong on the second part but the first bit is somewhat true. For example; The UK has allowed facial hair (i.e full beard and moustaches) for hundreds of years and in the mid 19th century it became commonplace for officers to have sideburns or 'side whiskers' and moustaches. Even prior to that it was common for Infantry Pioneers to wear full beards. Excerpts from the Crimean War show all ranks were encouraged to grow large moustaches, and full beards during winter. Moustaches kept being mandatory for all ranks who could grow them until WW1. And that's just one country.

Sf shouldn't have beards either

@@user-buck-b7j You clearly have no clue.

When was the last time SF fought in a chemical environment? 1915?

@@Nyle95 Millennial here, and I think beards should not be allowed.

@@Inconvenient_NPC Cheers dits

Or develop respirators like this that aren't technically limited, meaning they can be used across a broad range of circumstances