Arizona Ghostriders true that. Hmmm idk I guess Arthur’s hat would be a “traditional” cowboy hat, excuse me because I don’t know the official name lmao.
@@jamariojackson4289 The brims and crowns are up to interpretation when it comes to the Old West, but the leather wasn't a practical material for a work hat.
For me, I like both forms. I like the crown and raised brim of the modern hat, and I also like the old hats because they give me that old, "true-West" feeling
@@ArizonaGhostriders Ah. Growing up in Texas (still here, too) around modern cowboys, I'm used to the cattleman's crease (and I honestly like it), alongside both older and newer hat shapes
Bernard. Here’s a link. There’s a better article out there, but I could not find it quick. Search 19th century cowboy kit or packing to keep the urban cowboy stuff out of the results. A spoon, folding or sheath knife, a tin cup and a poncho or duster depending on the weather might be items carried. A revolver ammo and belt was relatively heavy, and more likely left with the bed roll when working cattle in a crew. lonehand.com/cowboy_gear.htm
I want to hang out with Santee and The Boys! Not sure about getting my hat shaped while I wear it though.....Lol I really enjoy all the Arizona Ghostriders videos. Fun and educational!
Goddamnit this youtube channel is a goldmine, I am still binge watching since my first comment on here, the jokes here are so.... idk nostalgiac, no dirty-ness to it, no cussing, like an old timer entertainer that just wants to make the kids laugh, and to be honest there is something noble about it. I really do have a damned good time around here, see you all down the trail too I hope !
You forgot to mention corn starch. Union officers in particular used corn starch during the Civil War for crisply sharpened uniforms and hats, and many soldiers continued the practice of hand-starching their hats and thin-leather head accoutrements after the war ended.
Thanks... I recently started wearing cowboy hats. Here in Massachusetts, that's not too common, so I stand out no matter what its shape. Lol. I love your informative videos with a touch (sometimes more) of humor thrown in. Very entertaining stuff.
@@ArizonaGhostriders I will... I love 'em. It took some time getting used to the look and feel, but now I wear one all the time. I think It's catching on... I've heard several "love your hat" comments. Happy Thanksgiving partner!
I’d love to learn more about regional styles. I once read that regional hat shapes could be so distinctive that people can tell where you were from by how you shaved your hat. Being from the south, always wondered if there was a specific shape that southerners tend to use or specific areas of the south used.
Don’t lay your hat on the brim. If you don’t hang it up lay it upside down on the crown so it will hold it’s shape. Too many people these days wear em right off the rack. They really need to be shaped. A lot of hats today look like they’re backwards. The brim is wider in the front than in the back and to me it looks ridiculous. Up here we don’t see sombreros so I always told my girls “If his hat brim is wider than his shoulders, he’s a throw back.”
I've worn one all of my life and found the "open crown" lasts the longest and works best for me. Any crease will eventually crack if you wear it every day as I do.
That's why the proper way to put on and remove a hat is by placing your hands at the front and back by the brim; not by grabbing the pinch. This way you preserve the hat and its shape.
@dustin stafford Yes you can. Put a pot of water on the stove and let it boil. Place the hat over the pot like a lid for several minutes and it will become flexible. Once it cools it will hold it's shape. I have done most of mine that way.
You guys have an awesome channel. Thanks for keeping the West alive. Just got done watching High Plains Drifter, then your video popped up. Appreciate the work
www.wwmerc.com is a good place to start. Not sure if they have that hat, but if there's an affordable one close to it you can have it re-shaped by a hatter or do it yourself.
Something else that helps for newer guys is Boot Barn if you got one locally. Have a good stock of Stetsons, Cody James, and others plus upon purchase they clean it, shape it and put stiffener on it for no extra charge.
Charlie Bowdre from what I’m told paid the price for his choice of hat. Pat Garett apparently shot and killed him because the hat he happened to be wearing was associated with Billy the Kid
Ik I’m about 2 years late but I really appreciate these videos I’ve been binge watching them the last couple days and I just wish they woulda talked about the interesting history like this in school lol
Those gloves at 0:52 carried by the man on the right, looked so much like modern work gloves I had to double take to look for the Stanley logo. PS....looking at old photos, Imho......I’m not sure those guys were all that fashion conscious. Their hats looked just plain beat to heck in conformity to their livelihoods. Felt being the most amenable to recovery from accidental alteration was obviously the most popular and practical material. Woven palm-like material would deteriorate quickly under those condition and cannot be customized to shape once built. Now it seems to be the modern preference needing less maintenance than felt. I have two 30 year old hand woven palm Panama and a Stetson style made by Feda Pal from Mexico still going strong. They’re woven so tight and fine it’s like a hard hat.
Santee, I was boiling water in a pot with a lid and hot steam was coming out of the lid when I really had the pot at a strong boil! So could I use that steam to shape a wool hat?
The lady looks awesome with that outfit, she’s the most loyal to the era of them all , in Australia we have Akubra since 1976 they are awesome quality Made in Australia second to none .... check the models Woomera ( very Wild West 10 gallons Texas J.R. Ewing and ZZTop) , Golden Spur ( Waylon Jennings) , The Bobby , Sombrero ( very southern rebel like Charlie Daniels Band style ), I shape my own hats with hot water steam , I have huge collection, I also got vintage Brown American Hat & Co made in Texas with the hatband made of several feathers exactly like J.R. had in Dallas tv show .... that’s a truly beauty . I love and collect Wild West and cowboy paraphernalia , the lady looks million bucks to me I am in love 😍
m Suarez my goodness gracious that’s a lot cash , yes I am grateful for the Akubras costing around $ 200.00-250.00 they may not be the same quality as braver but it’s way way far Ken Oath cheaper indeed.... $ 3.000.00 USD that’s almost 5.000 in Aussie dollars ... a lot money my goodness gracious, Wow look you shaped your hat like the style of the patch from the bikies from the Australian classic movie “STONE” , cool I would love to actually see it . Take care
Guy Lewis great to hear I think so too , I read up here some hats cost up to $ 3.000.00 USD almost 5.000 in Australia, I do appreciate Akubra even more now I won’t take it for granted, I may even buy heaps more and save it for the future just in case , thank you for letting me know you’ve got some , which models are they ? I love the Akubra “Woomera” and “Golden Spur” the “Rough Rider” is nice as well so is the “Sombrero” with the spotted cow fur hatband . Take my friend
Leandro Machado, I had to get a brim on an Akubra reshape. I went to a local western store, and they were very curious about my Akubra, and wondered where I got it. It cost me US $145, and they said it was a very good value for the money. From what I understand, a beaver hat will cost around $500+! I love my Akubras.
Leandro Machado, my first Akubra was a Territory. I use this fishing because I fry in the sun. I got a Kiandra, but I don't wear it. I have two Adventures shaped in an Indiana Jones style. I got one for Christmas. I also got a Lightning Ridge for Christmas.
I wear my hat when backpacking, so I pinched the brim in the rear of the hat to keep it from pushing off the backpack. It's kind of a cool look so I don't mind it.
I o ly have two one I keep at work it is a straw hat Gus style with brim pinched up on the right front where I take it off the other is a black felt with no shape tall crown flat brim. Love them both had them over ten years never cleaned either one just good ol hats
Hey Santee great video!!! Very informative! I was curious if a black 6x beaver felt Stetson would work with the water method. I keep seeing tutorials with steaming but I don’t have access to that. Thanks!
Heya Santee! I notice you're sporting this grey button down w/ that western yoke often and it doesn't look like the typical wrangler. I'd like to ask you what brand of shirt that is, if you don't mind! I've got Wrangler's and ELY cattleman's but always lookin for other brands of comfortable button downs to add! Thanks!
I've had my Stetson 45 years. After I shaped it, I've had a couple of horses add their touch to it as well. When raking the stall they seem to like grabbing my hat
excelent video.saw a picture of a cowboy hat sitting on a bed.you can see the hat band.sure loos like rattler skin to me.i have rattler on my border ruffian hat and my sunday go to meeting hat.picture is in episode 5 of Ken Burn's Old West on the netflix.talking about Lovings death.
Honest these are the best vlogs on youtube i laugh all the way through them. and i see you pulled at the end she was cute. You must take ages making each one to get them this good
@@ArizonaGhostriders So if I order a cheeseburger and a diet coke while wearing a hog iron on my belt, I will somehow be endangering public safety if someone else is drinking a beer 20 feet away from me? (I say rhetorically and assume I'm preaching to the choir.)
What a coincidence that this video should be suggested today! My Dad was just watching a program on Queen Hatshepsut! Hat Shape Sut.... But I'm serious though he actually was!
My other suggested videos are "Facial Hair in the Wild West" and "History Buffs: Tombstone" Which features a guy on the thumbnail.... with incredible facial hair!
You know it's interesting, I just watched another RU-vid channel's video where the author claimed that the main hats worn in the old west were bowler / Derby hats and Mexican sombreros. And he showed some photos to prove his point; but then I looked at a couple of other sources and saw people wearing Stetson style hats, mostly with what looked like very creative style custom/handmade crowns. So it just made me wonder; he claimed that the Stetson style hats didn't come into regular use until after the civil war because of officers use of it in that time. And that it took till the turn of the century before they became commonplace. I wonder if you all have any opinion? (I'm sure you do!). :-)
@@PaisleyPatchouli The derby was pretty common, but I too have seen a number of photos showing other hats before the end of the Civil War. Derby's provide almost no shade for the laborers.
I run a Vaquero style hat with my own twist on, falt top with very small Montana style creases and slightly turned up in the rear with slighty lowered front.
When did hats get tilted from the sides? Like the stereotype we have today? Is it historical that people tilted their hats? And when did they start titling them?
Can this be done with any wool felt hat? I've seen pictures from the old west with hats that look like the montana peak but far less uniform and more rugged which was far more appealing, however could not find any productions in that variety of style
There are a number of folks that sell montana peak hats, and yes, it can be done with a wool hat. However, inexpensive wool hats are kind of hard to re-shape.
Good video. It's always nice to know how to get things done. The one sided flare got taken to the extreme later on. The Aussie military slouch hats have their brim pinned up on one side so rifles and bayonets won't conflict with their brims while at shoulder arms. They unpin them in the field to give more cover. The over handed plank adjustment seems a bit drastic, but I guess it just proves that extreme sports have been around a lot longer than previously thought. It also shows that cowboys were inclined to improvised.
That is something you fine Australian folks brought to the table, I think. Not too practical here in the arid desert. However, shaping them requires wetting the leather and molding it...then letting it dry.
Arizona Ghostriders Australia is pretty hot.Even in places like Melbourne can get pretty hot.Our outback is extremely hot so I would find it weird the Aussies made it.I appreciate the time you take to reply to comments and just making the videos.Please keep the spirit of the west alive like you guys do.
I do not remember where, but I once read that by how you shaped and wore your hate, people could generally tell where you were from. But, I have yet to be able to find out the info telling how people from different areas of the North and South actually wore their hats.
Hey Santee, I got a cheap La Sierra cowboy and I would like to change up it’s style. It’s faux felt and pretty stiff and wondering if you can give any advice or tips. I don’t know much about cowboy hats and I don’t know if faux felt makes any difference
I've never shaped my hats before. Mostly because I wear a Kodiak style hat without the hat string. I'd love to try and shape mt own personal hat though.
Rodeo Hat is at the farm below Flatneck Station in RDR2. Best hat in the game. Keep going back and knocking out the rancher. You get the cattleman, Cutter, and rodeo hat
I carried my felt to Catalina Hatter's to be cleaned. They custom made the hat. If you want the best hat made check them out. They are located in Bryan Texas. Their 100X is pricey but worth every penny.
does this same logic work with pinning a whole side to the "crown"/top piece like people did in the late 1700s, or are these hats made differently (would it break them)
I like the scene in MONTE WALSH where he dunks his new hat in the rain barrel. Looks like you might need a few aspirin included in the hat shaping instructions.
Trying my best to find the closest thing to a "Man with no name" hat of decent quality, my luck hasn't been so great. Looks like I'll have to get something close and just shape it.
Hello 👒 Cowboy just wouldn't be a cowboy without his hat. Another great one friend. Hope she didn't catch you across the hat with that rollingpin. Have a great Sunday. 😊
